History WMG / KingdomHeartsII

21st Dec '17 1:21:09 AM Cryoclaste
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* Okay, so KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance reveals [[spoiler: Nobodies can grow hearts.]] By defeating Twilight Thorn, Roxas was [[spoiler: completing the heart growing inside of him by destroying his last connection to being a Nobody.]]

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* Okay, so KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance reveals [[spoiler: Nobodies can grow hearts.]] By defeating Twilight Thorn, Roxas was [[spoiler: completing the heart growing inside of him by destroying his last connection to being a Nobody.]]
19th May '17 8:31:02 PM SammyDragon92
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[[WMG: Atlantica's appearance in this game is non canonical.]]
Unless Square Enix decides to include Atlantica in VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII for some reason and it explicitly references it's appearance in this game, it's pretty easy to declare FanonDiscontinuity due not only to the fact that it's completely optional from a gameplay standpoint (completing it is only needed for getting all of the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ultima Weapon's]] rare synthesis items and unlocking the [[SequelHook secret ending]]) but all it's [[SeriesContinuityError extremely noticeable continuity errors]] that contradict with it's appearance in [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts1 the first game]]. It's actually quite possible that Square Enix doesn't consider it canon either because everything about Atlantica's appearance in this game seems to suggest that they only put it in because they could...
28th May '15 6:25:46 AM TokoWH
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Just as John Murdock remembers a Happy place , Shell Beach, Roxas does as well but the location can not be reached in both cases. Both eventually discover their immense powers but by different means.

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Just as John Murdock remembers a Happy place , Shell Beach, Roxas does as well but the location can not be reached in both cases. Both eventually discover their immense powers but by different means.means.

[[WMG: Roxas was originally going to be the main protagonist of the game.]]
The plot would have dealt with him slowly learning over the course of the game that [[LateArrivalSpoiler he was Sora's Nobody]], all while also finding about his role in the organization, and eventually attempting to take them down. This is why the ProlongedPrologue takes so long. A lot of hold overs from that were worked into the opening that made it into the game. Why Roxas was eventually replaced with Sora could be for a variety of reasons. They couldn't figure out how to get Donald and Goofy to travel with him, especially after the events of ''Chain of Memories'', and naturally a lot more people would have likely preferred to have played as Sora, even if he wasn't advertised as being playable in the game.
16th Mar '15 3:54:51 AM Morgenthaler
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[[WMG: In the ProlongedPrologue, the goal of Roxas & friends to reach the beach, is right out of DarkCity.]]

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[[WMG: In the ProlongedPrologue, the goal of Roxas & friends to reach the beach, is right out of DarkCity.Film/DarkCity.]]
16th Feb '15 9:48:55 AM MrUnderhill
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** How about Trickmaster?
30th Jul '14 9:59:54 AM Taxipizza
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Just as John Murdock remembers a Happy place shell beach, Roxas does as well but the location can not be reached in both cases. Both eventually discover their immense powers but by different means.

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Just as John Murdock remembers a Happy place shell beach, , Shell Beach, Roxas does as well but the location can not be reached in both cases. Both eventually discover their immense powers but by different means.
30th Jul '14 9:58:54 AM Taxipizza
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We know that you have to be strong enough to pass on a keyblade, you don't neccessarily have to be a master (Terra and Riku) and it doesn't have to be intentional (Aqua and Kairi). That way, when Ven leaves Sora, Sora will still have a keyblade. Other evidence is the glow that it emitted when Riku touches the keyblade Sora is holding. The keyblade that should have been Riku's.

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We know that you have to be strong enough to pass on a keyblade, you don't neccessarily have to be a master (Terra and Riku) and it doesn't have to be intentional (Aqua and Kairi). That way, when Ven leaves Sora, Sora will still have a keyblade. Other evidence is the glow that it emitted when Riku touches the keyblade Sora is holding. The keyblade that should have been Riku's.Riku's.

[[WMG: In the ProlongedPrologue, the goal of Roxas & friends to reach the beach, is right out of DarkCity.]]
Just as John Murdock remembers a Happy place shell beach, Roxas does as well but the location can not be reached in both cases. Both eventually discover their immense powers but by different means.
4th Jun '14 9:06:32 PM Phoenixion
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** Eh...never mind. I just realized this theory doesn't work.
*** Why not?
**** At a guess, I'd say because Emblem Heartless are artificially created, while any living person's Heartless would be a Pureblood.
**** Well that too, but my reason was because I'd incorrectly counted the number of Organization members (Roxas excluded, since he isn't one of them when the game starts) who made it to the second game: Axel, Xemnas, Luxord, Xaldin, Demyx, Xigbar, Saix. That's only seven Organization members in [=KH2=] and eight Emblems killed by Roxas in Days. (Again, not counting the one Pete sent to kill him.) In order for this theory to hold true, we would have to accept that the Organization just sent Roxas after an extra Heartless for no particular reason.

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** * Eh...never mind. I just realized this theory doesn't work.
*** ** Why not?
**** *** At a guess, I'd say because Emblem Heartless are artificially created, while any living person's Heartless would be a Pureblood.
**** *** Well that too, but my reason was because I'd incorrectly counted the number of Organization members (Roxas excluded, since he isn't one of them when the game starts) who made it to the second game: Axel, Xemnas, Luxord, Xaldin, Demyx, Xigbar, Saix. That's only seven Organization members in [=KH2=] and eight Emblems killed by Roxas in Days. (Again, not counting the one Pete sent to kill him.) In order for this theory to hold true, we would have to accept that the Organization just sent Roxas after an extra Heartless for no particular reason.
20th May '14 7:28:59 PM SpaghettiBoy
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[[WMG: Organization XIII's heartlesses were all destroyed during the events of the first Kingdom Hearts game, 358/2 days, and this game.]]
As we've learned from 3D, the person who turned into a heartless and a nobody eventually reforms after both are destroyed. Since we learn that Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion, who were all destroyed during the events of Chain of Memories (and 358/2 days) yet reformed at the same time as Axel and everybody else, their Nobodies must have been destroyed ''first''.
* Xemnas: "Ansem", duh.
* Xigbar: Possibly the Infernal Engine?
* Xaldin: Probably a Stalwart Blade type heartless, if not the Antlion or maybe even Kurt Zisa.
* Vexen: Probably the Blizzard Lord.
* Lexaeus: The Groundshaker.
* Zexion: Possibly one of the Stealth Sneaks destroyed near the end of 358/2 days. Or maybe the Illuminator.
* Saïx: The Ruler of the Sky, maybe? Possibly Kurt Zisa.
* Axel: I feel hesitant to say the Volcanic lord. Alternatively, one of the Behemoths.
* Demyx: Parasite Cage or maybe the Chill Ripper? Alternatively he could have been one of the mushrooms.
* Luxord: The Phantom. No brainer here - it has powers of time (Just like Luxord) ''and'' its weak spot is randomized.
* Marluxia: Possibly the Leechgrave (if he revived earlier) or maybe the Grim Reaper.
* Larxene: The Storm Rider.

As mentioned, Roxas/Sora is a special case.

18th Nov '13 11:51:06 AM raptyr
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* If one looks at his dissappearance and the dissapearance of all the other nobodies (Go on, watch those scenes on youtube, I can wait) it is markedly different than the dissapearances of the other nobodies destroyed. Whereas all the others vanish into darkness, Demyx instead dissappears in a fountain of water. His element is water, so logically,he could have used the fountain to cover his escape. this means that they can bring demyx back without having to some up with a name for his somebody, or a location to meet him in.

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* If one looks at his dissappearance and the dissapearance of all the other nobodies (Go on, watch those scenes on youtube, I can wait) it is markedly different than the dissapearances of the other nobodies destroyed. Whereas all the others vanish into darkness, Demyx instead dissappears in a fountain of water. His element is water, so logically,he could have used the fountain to cover his escape. this means that they can bring demyx back without having to some up with a name for his somebody, or a location to meet him in.in.

[[WMG: When Sora and Riku beat Xemnas, Riku accidentally performed a Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony]]

We know that you have to be strong enough to pass on a keyblade, you don't neccessarily have to be a master (Terra and Riku) and it doesn't have to be intentional (Aqua and Kairi). That way, when Ven leaves Sora, Sora will still have a keyblade. Other evidence is the glow that it emitted when Riku touches the keyblade Sora is holding. The keyblade that should have been Riku's.
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