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* They weren't DNA samples, they were frozen embryos. Dodgson explicitly says that they'd be no use to [=BioSyn=] if they didn't survive, so we can assume their long-decomposed remains would not be worth retrieving.
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Primarily because fossil record is incomplete, so some of the preserved DNA was of species we haven't discovered, or that we reconstructed the fossil records for improperly (they're like our thumbed iguanodons). However, it's also because the patching he did with the frog (and in the book, was there also turtle?) DNA, which affected them to the point that by the time they got lucky enough to get a viable embryo, they weren't too much like the actual creatures the original DNA had come from. He may have tried to make them more interesting ([[YouFailBiologyForever turning the "size" markers]] on the raptors UpToEleven so they resembled Utahraptors, mixing some ugly little poison-spitters with the large but cute dilophosaurs, keeping the compys at the size of the German skeleton instead of letting them grow to their natural full size- see putting poisonous plants in just because they're pretty), but I doubt it would have had any sort of success.

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Primarily because fossil record is incomplete, so some of the preserved DNA was of species we haven't discovered, or that we reconstructed the fossil records for improperly (they're like our thumbed iguanodons). However, it's also because the patching he did with the frog (and in the book, was there also turtle?) DNA, which affected them to the point that by the time they got lucky enough to get a viable embryo, they weren't too much like the actual creatures the original DNA had come from. He may have tried to make them more interesting ([[YouFailBiologyForever ([ArtisticLicenseBiology turning the "size" markers]] on the raptors UpToEleven so they resembled Utahraptors, mixing some ugly little poison-spitters with the large but cute dilophosaurs, keeping the compys at the size of the German skeleton instead of letting them grow to their natural full size- see putting poisonous plants in just because they're pretty), but I doubt it would have had any sort of success.
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** Based on Malcolm's response when Hammond brought it up, he seems not to have a problem with doing so if the extinction is the result of human activity. So using this to save critically endangered species wouldn't be a problem to Malcolm in all likelihood.
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With the real-life fossils providing zero evidence of the neck frills or the ability to spit poison, obviously those features came from somewhere else.

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With the real-life fossils providing zero evidence of the neck frills or the ability to spit poison, obviously those features came from somewhere else.else.

[[WMG: The dinosaur DNA was not obtained from amber originating in the Mesozoic era, but amber from later on taken from some kind of LostWorld where dinosaurs still existed.]]
It's been noted that there is no way dinosaur DNA would last nearly as long as depicted in this film (which is why it hasn't ever been tried). But what if the amber used was not from the Mesozoic era, but far later on in some region where dinosaurs continued to exist? One could even even tie it in to some other works-maybe the amber mine depicted in the film is near [[Literature/TheLostWorld Maple White Land]] or [[Film/TheValleyOfGwangi Gwangi's valley]].
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[[WMG: The dilophosaurs had cobra DNA added as filler.]]
With the real-life fossils providing zero evidence of the neck fringes or the ability to spit poison, obviously those features came from somewhere else. At least one species of cobra is capable of spitting venom a fair distance, these snakes could be where those features came from.

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[[WMG: The dilophosaurs had cobra DNA from cobras and frilled lizards added as filler.]]
With the real-life fossils providing zero evidence of the neck fringes frills or the ability to spit poison, obviously those features came from somewhere else. At least one species of cobra is capable of spitting venom a fair distance, these snakes could be where those features came from.else.
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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack. Dennis survived both that and their physical attacks thanks to his {{Kevlard}} and humans being larger than their normal prey. He managed to scare it off with the jeep/[[CarFu run it over]]. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).

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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack. Dennis survived both that and their physical attacks thanks to his {{Kevlard}} and humans being larger than their normal prey. He managed to scare it off with the jeep/[[CarFu run it over]]. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).impairment).

[[WMG: The dilophosaurs had cobra DNA added as filler.]]
With the real-life fossils providing zero evidence of the neck fringes or the ability to spit poison, obviously those features came from somewhere else. At least one species of cobra is capable of spitting venom a fair distance, these snakes could be where those features came from.
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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack. Dennis survived their both that and their physical attacks thanks to his {{Kevlard}} and humans being larger than their normal prey. He managed to scare it off with the jeep/[[CarFu run it over]]. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).

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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack. Dennis survived their both that and their physical attacks thanks to his {{Kevlard}} and humans being larger than their normal prey. He managed to scare it off with the jeep/[[CarFu run it over]]. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).
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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack. Dennis survived their both that and their physical attacks thanks to his {{Kevlard}} and humans being larger than their nornal prey. He managed to scare it off with the jeep/[[CarFu run it over]]. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).

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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack. Dennis survived their both that and their physical attacks thanks to his {{Kevlard}} and humans being larger than their nornal normal prey. He managed to scare it off with the jeep/[[CarFu run it over]]. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).

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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack Dennis survived their physical attacks and managed to scare them off with the jeep. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).

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The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack attack. Dennis survived their both that and their physical attacks thanks to his {{Kevlard}} and humans being larger than their nornal prey. He managed to scare them it off with the jeep.jeep/[[CarFu run it over]]. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).

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**** You must mean [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest Davy Jones]]?



Probably not out of the question considering his VillainousGlutton tendencies. Would've spent most of his new, infinite wealth (and surely more payout from [=BioSyn=] in the future) on eating. If he survived long enough on such a poor diet he would become this universe's Jabba the Hutt.

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Probably not out of the question considering his VillainousGlutton tendencies. Would've spent most of his new, infinite wealth (and surely more payout from [=BioSyn=] in the future) on eating. If he survived long enough on such a poor diet he would become this universe's Jabba the Hutt.Hutt.

[[WMG: Nedry survived.]]
The dilophosaurs appear to use venom as their primary means of attack Dennis survived their physical attacks and managed to scare them off with the jeep. He then found the DNA canister, made it to the boat, and lived the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini (besides some vision impairment).
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*That's assuming they need to change gender at all. Captive Komodo Dragons as well as a few other Reptile species have been known to reproduce without a partner if left alone for long enough periods. Perhaps Dinosaurs were also capable of it.
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*** He went back and got it after Ellie turned the electricity back on. Because he's MadeOfWin.

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*** He went back and got it after Ellie turned the electricity back on. Because he's MadeOfWin.JustForFun/MadeOfWin.
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* Possibly in the Jurassic Park verse there was minor point of divergence in paleontological history where Dakotaraptor was discovered first and was given the name Velicorapator. As a result the Mongolian dromaeosaur was given a different genus name.
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*** The answer is obvious. Great Zeus RELEASED THE KRAKEN!!
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* Alternate theory; once Roland got new ammo for his elephant gun, he decided to [[BadAss avenge his fallen comrades]].

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* Alternate theory; once Roland got new ammo for his elephant gun, he decided to [[BadAss avenge his fallen comrades]].comrades.
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Sure, he might've lost an arm, but he also [[BadAss beat the raptors with it and escaped]].

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Sure, he might've lost an arm, but he also [[BadAss beat the raptors with it and escaped]].escaped.
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Its often assumed that they were just misnamed Deinonychuses, but they are actually closer in size to the recently discovered Dakotaraptor, and dakotaraptors were even found in the same place as that fossil Grant was digging up. It didn't fit with any then known raptor species, so they just called it velociraptor.

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Its often assumed that they were just misnamed Deinonychuses, but they are actually closer in size to the recently discovered Dakotaraptor, and dakotaraptors were even found in the same place as that fossil Grant was digging up. It didn't fit with any then known raptor species, so they just called it velociraptor.velociraptor.

[[WMG: If Nedry has escaped with the embryos, he would've ended up as big as Jabba the Hutt.]]
Probably not out of the question considering his VillainousGlutton tendencies. Would've spent most of his new, infinite wealth (and surely more payout from [=BioSyn=] in the future) on eating. If he survived long enough on such a poor diet he would become this universe's Jabba the Hutt.
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Grant hated kids up until he met Tim and Lex, and apart from wistfully staring it in the helicopter, the main thing he used it for was to terrorize the snotty little boy at the dig. Being with Tim and Lex made him realize what a terrible thing it'd been to do to that boy, brat though he may have been, and so he threw it away because of that now tainted memory.

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Grant hated kids up until he met Tim and Lex, and apart from wistfully staring it in the helicopter, the main thing he used it for was to terrorize the snotty little boy at the dig. Being with Tim and Lex made him realize what a terrible thing it'd been to do to that boy, brat though he may have been, and so he threw it away because of that now tainted memory.memory.

[[WMG: The raptors in the series are Dakotaraptors]]
Its often assumed that they were just misnamed Deinonychuses, but they are actually closer in size to the recently discovered Dakotaraptor, and dakotaraptors were even found in the same place as that fossil Grant was digging up. It didn't fit with any then known raptor species, so they just called it velociraptor.
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* The Masrani website mentioned them conducting excavations in Siberia to find Ice-Age remains, so there is concievably room for them to show up in a future movie...
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* Would that make them [[{{V-2009}} Vs]]?

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* Would that make them [[{{V-2009}} [[Series/{{V 2009}} Vs]]?
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* It's also possible that the Site B dinos had their breeding capacity deliberately left intact, allowing InGen's scientists to study their "natural" development in the name of refining the techniques used for stocking the theme park. (IIRC, the novel of ''The Lost World'' mentions that the cloning process has an incredibly high failure rate.)

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* It's also possible that the Site B dinos had their breeding capacity deliberately left intact, allowing InGen's [=InGen=]'s scientists to study their "natural" development in the name of refining the techniques used for stocking the theme park. (IIRC, the novel of ''The Lost World'' mentions that the cloning process has an incredibly high failure rate.)



* Semi-confirmed. Although paleontologists don't boycott the park (and many enjoy it), InGen does have Dr. Wu arguing with Masrani about why the dinosaurs look inaccurate.

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* Semi-confirmed. Although paleontologists don't boycott the park (and many enjoy it), InGen [=InGen=] does have Dr. Wu arguing with Masrani about why the dinosaurs look inaccurate.
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* [[http://www.cracked.com/article_22652_5-horrifying-fan-theories-that-make-way-too-much-sense.html This]] Website/{{Cracked}} article provided a more detailed explanation:
-->''"The entire premise of Jurassic Park centers around the idea that geneticists were able to extract dinosaur DNA from prehistoric mosquitoes trapped in fossilized chunks of tree sap, which is impossible, because DNA has a half-life and would have decayed beyond any possible use after 65 million years. Plus, there's no way you would find a mosquito who limited its blood intake to one particular species of dinosaur. There would be hundreds, if not thousands, of different DNA strands in each mosquito. Every DNA extraction would be like taking a cotton swab of a college freshman's bedsheets."''\\
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''"So, the only way for Jurassic Park to get its hands on any dinosaurs would be to have their geneticists build them from scratch, which would explain why all the dinosaurs in the movie look like how we, the ignorant public, imagine dinosaurs look, as opposed to how they actually appeared in nature. For instance, in real life, a velociraptor was the size of a chimpanzee, whereas in Jurassic Park, velociraptors are large enough to play professional basketball. Also, they had feathers. Most dinosaurs probably had feathers. And the dilophosaurus, the tiny, spitting monster with a technicolor neck frill, was 10 feet tall, and the fossil record provides zero evidence of poison loogies or flashy throat accessories."''\\
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''"We also know that the park's founder, John Hammond, built his fortune on selling people false realities: He gives an entire speech about how he started his career with a motorized flea circus designed to trick small children. In ''Film/TheLostWorld'', we learn that the lab where we saw the baby raptor hatchling in the first film was just a show for the tourists -- the majority of dinosaur hatching took place on an entirely different island, despite Hammond insisting to his guests that he had been present for every single birth."''\\
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''"Furthermore, at one point Dr. Sattler notices that Jurassic Park is covered in extinct species of plants. You can't clone a plant from mosquitoes encased in amber, so how the hell did they get there? The only explanation is that the plants are a complete genetic facsimile. Dr. Grant, Dr. Sattler, and Dr. Malcolm weren't brought to the park to determine whether or not it was safe for visitors -- they were brought to the park to determine whether or not it would be believable to visitors. Hammond figured if he could fool a paleontologist into thinking he was seeing dinosaurs, a paleobotanist into thinking she was seeing extinct plants, and a mathematician into believing that the science all added up, he could probably fool a bunch of Wall Street day traders and their families."''

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[[WMG: The real reason the scientists were brought along was to verify that the park's features would look convincing]]

[[http://www.cracked.com/article_22652_5-horrifying-fan-theories-that-make-way-too-much-sense.html This]] Website/{{Cracked}} article provided a more detailed explanation:
-->''"The
explains the evidence:
*The
entire premise of Jurassic Park centers around the idea that geneticists were able to extract extracted dinosaur DNA from prehistoric mosquitoes trapped in fossilized chunks of tree sap, which sap. This is impossible, because impossible. DNA has a half-life and would have decayed beyond any possible use after 65 million years. Plus, there's no way you would find a mosquito who limited its blood intake to one particular species of dinosaur. There would be hundreds, if not thousands, of different DNA strands in each mosquito. Every DNA extraction would be like taking a cotton swab of swabbing a college freshman's bedsheets."''\\
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''"So,
bedsheets.
*Because of this,
the only way for Jurassic Park to get its hands on any dinosaurs would be to have their geneticists build them be genetically engineered from scratch, which would explain scratch. This explains why all the dinosaurs in the movie look like how we, have the ignorant public, imagine dinosaurs look, idealized appearances that the public imagines them as having, as opposed to how they actually appeared in nature. For instance, Example: velociraptors in real life, a velociraptor was the size of a chimpanzee, whereas in life were about as small as chimpanzees. In Jurassic Park, velociraptors are large enough to play the size of professional basketball. basketball players. Also, they had feathers. Most velociraptors and many other dinosaurs probably had feathers. And the dilophosaurus, the tiny, spitting monster creature with a technicolor neck frill, frill that kills Dennis Nedry, was 10 ten feet tall, and the there's no fossil record provides zero evidence of poison loogies or flashy throat accessories."''\\
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''"We also know
accessories that the park's founder, John Hammond, make it possible for it to blind Nedry.
*John Hammond is known to have
built his fortune on selling people false realities: He realities, as he gives an entire speech about how he started his career with a motorized flea circus designed to trick small children. In Furthermore, in ''Film/TheLostWorld'', we learn that the lab where we saw the baby raptor hatchling in the first film was just a show an act put on for the tourists -- tourists, while the majority of dinosaur hatching actually took place on an entirely different island, despite Hammond insisting in spite of Hammond's claims to his guests that he had been present for every single birth."''\\
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''"Furthermore, at
birth.
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one point point, Dr. Sattler notices that Jurassic Park is covered in extinct species of plants. You plant species. Since you can't clone a plant from mosquitoes that were encased in amber, so amber for 65 million+ years, how the hell did they get there? The only explanation is that Maybe they didn't get there, and the plants are a complete genetic facsimile. Meaning, Dr. Grant, Dr. Sattler, and Dr. Malcolm weren't brought to the park to determine whether or not it was safe for visitors -- they to see the dinosaurs. They were actually brought to the park to determine whether or not it would be believable to visitors. Hammond figured look convincing for the visitors, with safety being the next thing. Hammond's banking on the fact that if he could fool can convince a paleontologist into thinking he was (Dr. Grant) that he's seeing dinosaurs, convince a paleobotanist into thinking (Dr. Sattler) that she was is seeing extinct plants, and convince a mathematician (Dr. Malcolm) into believing that the science all added up, he could probably fool a bunch of Wall Street day traders and their families."''

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* Jossed. Westworld has nothing to do with Jurassic Park in any way, universe and production wise and the fact that John Hammond is a multi-millionaire so he funded Jurassic Park himself.



*** Very funny. Jossed very hard. They said three instead of four because they didn't count Nedry whom is presumably eaten away completely or torn apart beyond recognition offscreen after being killed by the little venomous dinosaur.

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*** Very funny. Jossed very hard. They said three instead of four because they didn't count Nedry whom is presumably eaten away completely or torn apart beyond recognition offscreen after being killed by the little venomous dinosaur.



* Very funny. Jossed very hard. Zombies do not talk but moan.



*** Should be jossed but on the other hand, the rain is pretty obvious, causing the Tyrannosaurus Rex to not be able to be as fast or as responsive when it's warm.

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*** Should be jossed but on the other hand, the The rain is ''is'' pretty obvious, causing the Tyrannosaurus Rex to not be able to be as fast or as responsive when it's warm.



* Simple. They simply happened to have said rich British families and hunters. That's all there is to it.



* Very funny and jossed very hard.
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* Unfortunately Jossed.




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* It's been confirmed that the cloning techniques are being used to clone endangered animals - hence feeding Jurassic World's mosasaur entire great white sharks for their show.

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* [[http://www.cracked.com/article_22652_5-horrifying-fan-theories-that-make-way-too-much-sense.html This]] Website/{{Cracked}} article provided a more detailed explanation:
-->''"The entire premise of Jurassic Park centers around the idea that geneticists were able to extract dinosaur DNA from prehistoric mosquitoes trapped in fossilized chunks of tree sap, which is impossible, because DNA has a half-life and would have decayed beyond any possible use after 65 million years. Plus, there's no way you would find a mosquito who limited its blood intake to one particular species of dinosaur. There would be hundreds, if not thousands, of different DNA strands in each mosquito. Every DNA extraction would be like taking a cotton swab of a college freshman's bedsheets."''\\
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''"So, the only way for Jurassic Park to get its hands on any dinosaurs would be to have their geneticists build them from scratch, which would explain why all the dinosaurs in the movie look like how we, the ignorant public, imagine dinosaurs look, as opposed to how they actually appeared in nature. For instance, in real life, a velociraptor was the size of a chimpanzee, whereas in Jurassic Park, velociraptors are large enough to play professional basketball. Also, they had feathers. Most dinosaurs probably had feathers. And the dilophosaurus, the tiny, spitting monster with a technicolor neck frill, was 10 feet tall, and the fossil record provides zero evidence of poison loogies or flashy throat accessories."''\\
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''"We also know that the park's founder, John Hammond, built his fortune on selling people false realities: He gives an entire speech about how he started his career with a motorized flea circus designed to trick small children. In ''Film/TheLostWorld'', we learn that the lab where we saw the baby raptor hatchling in the first film was just a show for the tourists -- the majority of dinosaur hatching took place on an entirely different island, despite Hammond insisting to his guests that he had been present for every single birth."''\\
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''"Furthermore, at one point Dr. Sattler notices that Jurassic Park is covered in extinct species of plants. You can't clone a plant from mosquitoes encased in amber, so how the hell did they get there? The only explanation is that the plants are a complete genetic facsimile. Dr. Grant, Dr. Sattler, and Dr. Malcolm weren't brought to the park to determine whether or not it was safe for visitors -- they were brought to the park to determine whether or not it would be believable to visitors. Hammond figured if he could fool a paleontologist into thinking he was seeing dinosaurs, a paleobotanist into thinking she was seeing extinct plants, and a mathematician into believing that the science all added up, he could probably fool a bunch of Wall Street day traders and their families."''



[[WMG: Movie!Nedry had some kind of self-inflicted financial problems -- gambling debts, for example.]]
Movie!Hammond is clearly a very different kind of man to the greedy, corner-cutting asshole of the book. Yet Nedry still causes all the damage that he does; why? Is it just because he's a greedy idiot? Possibly. But, before he hacks the computer and sets everything wrong, there's an interesting little discussion between Nedry and Hammond, in which Hammond comments about people "taking responsibilities for their own mistakes". Given the kind of character Nedry is presented as, it's possible he's made bad decisions with his finances in the past -- getting into debt by gambling, for example -- and he arrogantly blames Hammond for not being willing to clear those debts for him.

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[[WMG: Movie!Nedry In the movie, Dennis Nedry had some kind of self-inflicted financial problems -- gambling debts, for example.]]
Movie!Hammond The movie version of John Hammond is clearly a very different kind of man to the greedy, corner-cutting asshole of the book. Yet Dennis Nedry still causes all the damage that he does; why? Is it just because he's a greedy idiot? Possibly. But, before he hacks the computer and sets everything wrong, there's an interesting little discussion between Nedry and Hammond, in which Hammond comments about people "taking responsibilities for their own mistakes". Given the kind of character Nedry is presented as, it's possible he's made bad decisions with his finances in the past -- getting into debt by gambling, for example -- and he arrogantly blames Hammond for not being willing to clear those debts for him.
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* The scientists would have studied the dinosaurs in detail for at least a year prior to the events of the book/movie, and they would have discovered feather follicles in at least some of the dinosaurs.

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* The scientists would have studied the dinosaurs in detail for at least a year prior to the events of the book/movie, and they would have discovered feather follicles in at least some of the dinosaurs.dinosaurs.

[[WMG: Grant discarded the raptor claw to symbolize his acceptance of the children.]]
Grant hated kids up until he met Tim and Lex, and apart from wistfully staring it in the helicopter, the main thing he used it for was to terrorize the snotty little boy at the dig. Being with Tim and Lex made him realize what a terrible thing it'd been to do to that boy, brat though he may have been, and so he threw it away because of that now tainted memory.
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* Confirmed.

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* Confirmed.
Semi-confirmed. Although paleontologists don't boycott the park (and many enjoy it), InGen does have Dr. Wu arguing with Masrani about why the dinosaurs look inaccurate.
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* Very funny. Jossed. They are meat eaters. They may be able to think but they are still wild beasts that eat to live.



* Jossed very hard. The dinosaurs are what they are, dinosaurs. Full stop.



** Very funny. Jossed very hard. Dinosaurs do not talk.

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** Very funny. Jossed very hard. Dinosaurs do not talk.



*** Very funny. Jossed very hard. They are dinosaurs and meat eaters to boot.

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*** Very funny. Jossed very hard. They are dinosaurs and meat eaters to boot.



*** Very funny to this being canon. Jossed. They aren't evil or insane. They are what they are, meat eating dinosaurs and it is known that some animals can think at some point, the raptors in this case.
**** just because an animal is a carnivore and predator doesn't preclude it from behaving in an insane manner particularly when exposed to stresses like isolation/confinement/boredom. Even without those stresses every now and then there will occur an individual that thinks/behaves in an atypical manner compared to rest of population due to random genetic variables. This guess might not have any evidence onscreen/in novel to support it but there isn't any evidence to 'joss' it either.

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*** Very funny to this being canon. Jossed. They aren't evil or insane. They are what they are, meat eating dinosaurs and it is known that some animals can think at some point, the raptors in this case.
**** just because an animal is a carnivore and predator doesn't preclude it from behaving in an insane manner particularly when exposed to stresses like isolation/confinement/boredom. Even without those stresses every now and then there will occur an individual that thinks/behaves in an atypical manner compared to rest of population due to random genetic variables. This guess might not have any evidence onscreen/in novel to support it but there isn't any evidence to 'joss' it either.



* Jossed. This is a film about wanting to open a theme park with real dinosaurus which obviously failed due to the dinosaurs going about their dinosaur nature. Nothing more than that. Full stop.



* Good theory but jossed until proven true on screen or at least in the novels.



[[WMG: Post-films, InGen's technology was used by others for more "mundane" de-extinction and species-survival projects]]

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[[WMG: Post-films, InGen's [=InGen=]'s technology was used by others for more "mundane" de-extinction and species-survival projects]]



* One can also argue that Jurassic Park is also part of the Dino Crisis universe so... Very funny. Jossed. This is a standalone film, nothing to do with Judge Dredd in any way.
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****just because an animal is a carnivore and predator doesn't preclude it from behaving in an insane manner particularly when exposed to stresses like isolation/confinement/boredom. Even without those stresses every now and then there will occur an individual that thinks/behaves in an atypical manner compared to rest of population due to random genetic variables. This guess might not have any evidence onscreen/in novel to support it but there isn't any evidence to 'joss' it either.

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