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[[WMG: Nothing is real, with some exceptions.]]
Haruhi Suzumiya is not a reality warper in any way, shape or form. I postulate the following:
* Anything that Haruhi Suzumiya does not directly observe cannot be proven to have actually happened.
* The series (and this is important) is NARRATED by Kyon, but is OBSERVED from Haruhi's point of view.
Allow me to elaborate on that second point. This might get a bit complicated.
* Consider a list of everything that ever happens that is directly observed by Haruhi Suzumiya. This set of events we shall call S.
** 'Disappearance' Haruhi DOES NOT COUNT. S contains all events perceived by the ORIGINAL Haruhi Suzumiya.
* Consider the set of events that take place according to Kyon. Call this set of events set K.
* Now consider the set of events that occur in the story. Call this set of events set Z.
* K does not contain S, nor does S contain K. Certain events exist which were not observed by Haruhi Suzumiya but which exist in K (The Asakura fight, all of Disappearance). Likewise, certain events exist within S which do not exist within K (What Haruhi does when out of Kyon's line of sight, etc)
* All events contained within S are provably true, and cannot be disproven. Hence, all events within S did actually happen.
* Events that exist in K only happened if evidence for them exists within S.
* Because Kyon is narrating, all events within K exist within Z.
* In addition to this, SOME but not all of S exists within Z.
* Whenever K and S exist together, the events DESCRIBED but not the explanations given by K are true and actually did happen.
* HENCE: Wherever K exists without S, no evidence of those events exists within S in such a way that could not be explained without the need for supernatural phenomena.
Enough set theory for you? Me too. Let me try this again.
* Nothing that Haruhi Suzumiya perceives cannot be explained by the SOS Brigade being composed of normal, if slightly eccentric, students.
* All alleged supernatural phenomena occurs during 'gaps' in Haruhi Suzumiya's perception.
* The narration of the stories is ONE of a near-infinite number of possible ways these gaps COULD have been filled.
* In effect, the Narrator of the stories is NOT Kyon, but is in fact Haruhi Suzumiya's imagination, passively imagining exactly what goes on when she is not present.
* The Integrated Data Sentience Entity, time travelers, ESPers, et cetera, comprise Haruhi Suzumiya's "Alternative Explanation" for the events that she perceives.
* This alternative explanation is imagined such that it cannot be proved or disproved based on what Haruhi Suzumiya knows.
To sum up,
* Haruhi Suzumiya is not God, a Reality Warper, or anything even remotely supernatural. She's a hyperactive teenager with a barely-suppressed God complex, creating an elaborate fantasy world around the entirely mundane events of her life. The stories are narrated by her internalization of one of her friends.
* Who's really narrating?
Haruhi Suzumiya is not a reality warper in any way, shape or form. I postulate the following:
* Anything that Haruhi Suzumiya does not directly observe cannot be proven to have actually happened.
* The series (and this is important) is NARRATED by Kyon, but is OBSERVED from Haruhi's point of view.
Allow me to elaborate on that second point. This might get a bit complicated.
* Consider a list of everything that ever happens that is directly observed by Haruhi Suzumiya. This set of events we shall call S.
** 'Disappearance' Haruhi DOES NOT COUNT. S contains all events perceived by the ORIGINAL Haruhi Suzumiya.
* Consider the set of events that take place according to Kyon. Call this set of events set K.
* Now consider the set of events that occur in the story. Call this set of events set Z.
* K does not contain S, nor does S contain K. Certain events exist which were not observed by Haruhi Suzumiya but which exist in K (The Asakura fight, all of Disappearance). Likewise, certain events exist within S which do not exist within K (What Haruhi does when out of Kyon's line of sight, etc)
* All events contained within S are provably true, and cannot be disproven. Hence, all events within S did actually happen.
* Events that exist in K only happened if evidence for them exists within S.
* Because Kyon is narrating, all events within K exist within Z.
* In addition to this, SOME but not all of S exists within Z.
* Whenever K and S exist together, the events DESCRIBED but not the explanations given by K are true and actually did happen.
* HENCE: Wherever K exists without S, no evidence of those events exists within S in such a way that could not be explained without the need for supernatural phenomena.
Enough set theory for you? Me too. Let me try this again.
* Nothing that Haruhi Suzumiya perceives cannot be explained by the SOS Brigade being composed of normal, if slightly eccentric, students.
* All alleged supernatural phenomena occurs during 'gaps' in Haruhi Suzumiya's perception.
* The narration of the stories is ONE of a near-infinite number of possible ways these gaps COULD have been filled.
* In effect, the Narrator of the stories is NOT Kyon, but is in fact Haruhi Suzumiya's imagination, passively imagining exactly what goes on when she is not present.
* The Integrated Data Sentience Entity, time travelers, ESPers, et cetera, comprise Haruhi Suzumiya's "Alternative Explanation" for the events that she perceives.
* This alternative explanation is imagined such that it cannot be proved or disproved based on what Haruhi Suzumiya knows.
To sum up,
* Haruhi Suzumiya is not God, a Reality Warper, or anything even remotely supernatural. She's a hyperactive teenager with a barely-suppressed God complex, creating an elaborate fantasy world around the entirely mundane events of her life. The stories are narrated by her internalization of one of her friends.
* Who's really narrating?
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* There are also angls and demons watching her. They may or may not be somehow related to the Data Entity.
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To be exact, a MMORPG kind of game. Yeah, like the (dot)hack universe. Kyon, Mukuru, Nagato, and Itsuki are players in said game, while Haruhi is just an AI. This explains why she gets little to none character development, it's because she's nothing but an NPC, controlled by the computer. It's also the source of her reality-warping powers. The reason why Kyon is always referred to as just 'Kyon' is because his in-game name is Kyon. 'ESPers', 'Aliens' and 'Timetravellers' are just types of characters, like 'Druids' and in a fantasy-setting RPG. Oooh, I feel a fanfic plotbunny coming on...
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To be exact, a MMORPG kind of game. Yeah, like the (dot)hack universe. Kyon, Mukuru, Nagato, and Itsuki are players in said game, while Haruhi is just an AI. This explains why she gets little to none character development, it's because she's nothing but an NPC, controlled by the computer. It's also the source of her reality-warping powers. The reason why Kyon is always referred to as just 'Kyon' is because his in-game name is Kyon. 'ESPers', 'Aliens' and 'Timetravellers' are just types of characters, like 'Druids' and in a fantasy-setting RPG. Oooh, I feel a fanfic plotbunny coming on...
[[WMG: Mikuru actually comes from a quite recent future.]]
Haruhi's powers will cause a kind of Technological Singularity only one generation in the future, which will turn the old technologies utterly obsolete in a matter of few years. Mikuru is in fact first generation to have never have had any contact with the "old" technology, and the sheer amount of new development has caused the mainstream culture to largely lose interest in the recent past, save for the vital time travel services to keep history under control, which is why she is so helpless with contemporary tech despite of essentially being a time agent intern.
[[WMG: Mikuru actually comes from a quite recent future.]]
Haruhi's powers will cause a kind of Technological Singularity only one generation in the future, which will turn the old technologies utterly obsolete in a matter of few years. Mikuru is in fact first generation to have never have had any contact with the "old" technology, and the sheer amount of new development has caused the mainstream culture to largely lose interest in the recent past, save for the vital time travel services to keep history under control, which is why she is so helpless with contemporary tech despite of essentially being a time agent intern.
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***My theory is that the Future!IDTE who already had the power of 'autoevolution' sent Haruhi, a humanoid interface, back in time to ensure that Present!IDTE would discover the power of autoevolution and prevent the world from exploding due to a time paradox. Along the way, she prevents another paradox by teaching the kid who discovered timetravel and inspiring him. The preface written in the collection of short stories (I forgot which book, it's when the SOS brigade was ordered to make an anthology of stories or get kicked out of the Literature Club room.)was a remnant of her memories as a humanoid interface. Her presence attracted the timetravellers, namely Mikuru who was tasked with keeping the founder of timetravel safe. How does she does so? With the assistance of Kyon, who was only told of their existence because he was close to Haruhi.
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To be exact, a MMORPG kind of game. Yeah, like the (dot)hack universe. Kyon, Mukuru, Nagato, and Itsuki are players in said game, while Haruhi is just an AI. This explains why she gets little to none character development, it's because she's nothing but an NPC, controlled by the computer. It's also the source of her reality-warping powers. The reason why Kyon is always referred to as just 'Kyon' is because his in-game name is Kyon. 'ESPers', 'Aliens' and 'Timetravellers' are just types of characters, like 'Druids' and in a fantasy-setting RPG. Oooh, I feel a fanfic plotbunny coming on...
To be exact, a MMORPG kind of game. Yeah, like the (dot)hack universe. Kyon, Mukuru, Nagato, and Itsuki are players in said game, while Haruhi is just an AI. This explains why she gets little to none character development, it's because she's nothing but an NPC, controlled by the computer. It's also the source of her reality-warping powers. The reason why Kyon is always referred to as just 'Kyon' is because his in-game name is Kyon. 'ESPers', 'Aliens' and 'Timetravellers' are just types of characters, like 'Druids' and in a fantasy-setting RPG. Oooh, I feel a fanfic plotbunny coming on...
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[[WMG: The entire world literally exists in Haruhi's head.]]
Or, if you prefer, the story is pulling a [[StElsewhere Tommy Westphall]] on us. Haruhi is trapped completely inside of her own mind, and the world being created exists in order to fill an otherwise empty and disconnected existence. The S.O.S. members are dimly recognized versions of her aides and therapists. Kyon is an Animus figure (a contrasexual Jungian archetype) whose purpose is to help lead her back to reality. She tells the story through him.
*Alternately, Kyon is the disconnected one, and Haruhi is his anima who is trying to guide him back to reality.
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* The IDTE sought to overcome the boundaries imposed by its intellectual limitations by giving a copy of its powerset to a human whose mind indicated a strong potential to use them creatively. Yuki even tells Kyon that Haruhi has data powers in line with the Entity's own abilities. The Entity and its Interfaces probably have some good reasons to keep that knowledge as closely guarded as possible, which is why Yuki chooses not to tell Kyon her group's beliefs regarding Haruhi's powers.
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* The IDTE sought to overcome the boundaries imposed by its intellectual limitations by giving a copy of its powerset to a human whose mind indicated a strong potential to use them creatively. Yuki even tells Kyon that Haruhi has data powers in line with the Entity's own abilities. The Entity and its Interfaces probably have some good reasons to keep that knowledge as closely guarded as possible, which is why Yuki chooses not to tell Kyon her group's beliefs regarding Haruhi's powers. powers.
** But then why didn't Yuki just tell Kyon that? There'd be no point in keeping the origin of her powers a secret. In fact, Nagato specifically doesn't tell Kyon her side's theory because it may not be the correct one. It's just their theory, one of several, and they're not so arrogant to start bragging to Kyon about it like Koizumi does. If the IDTE did indeed give Haruhi her powers, it'd be quite simple and safe for Nagato to just say "We did it."
** But then why didn't Yuki just tell Kyon that? There'd be no point in keeping the origin of her powers a secret. In fact, Nagato specifically doesn't tell Kyon her side's theory because it may not be the correct one. It's just their theory, one of several, and they're not so arrogant to start bragging to Kyon about it like Koizumi does. If the IDTE did indeed give Haruhi her powers, it'd be quite simple and safe for Nagato to just say "We did it."
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* Or she could have thought that having a guy she likes kiss her means "This can't happen; it's totally a dream" and fixes reality. That kind of thing tends to happen.
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** Keep in mind they were introducing themselves according to seat order, not alphabetical.
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* Well, major events of the story seem to be influenced by Tanigawa's own experiences; in junior high he had a friend who was intelligent, charismatic, and a natural leader. In high school he met an upperclassman who was the sole member of the literary club and helped her gain more members.
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[[WMG: '''Itsuki''' is really God]]
This is mostly based on how the "Kyon is God" theory has the problem of Kyon not saying he is, while there are the many problems with accepting "Haruhi is God" that the "Kyon is God" theorists have highlighted. In this case, the entire situation would be conducted by Itsuki for his own amusement; he prefers to stay on the sidelines and watch the love story that he has constructed for himself unfold, and probably take a ThirdOptionLoveInterest for himself at the end. It is very likely that if this were true, Haruhi is in fact within the loop of aliens, time travelers, and espers and has been told that Kyon is God. The main problem with this theory is that it would lack the narrative coherence of Kyon or Haruhi being God.
This is mostly based on how the "Kyon is God" theory has the problem of Kyon not saying he is, while there are the many problems with accepting "Haruhi is God" that the "Kyon is God" theorists have highlighted. In this case, the entire situation would be conducted by Itsuki for his own amusement; he prefers to stay on the sidelines and watch the love story that he has constructed for himself unfold, and probably take a ThirdOptionLoveInterest for himself at the end. It is very likely that if this were true, Haruhi is in fact within the loop of aliens, time travelers, and espers and has been told that Kyon is God. The main problem with this theory is that it would lack the narrative coherence of Kyon or Haruhi being God.
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Plan 2: In the event that Haruhi wants Kyon: Back off and let her have him. If Haruhi doesn;t doesn't think Itsuki's competition, he won;t won't be eradicated.
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[WMG: The Integrated Thought Entity gave Haruhi her powers.]]
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* The IDTE sought to overcome the boundaries imposed by its intellectual limitations by giving a copy of its powerset to a human whose mind indicated a strong potential to use them creatively. Yuki even tells Kyon that Haruhi has data powers in line with the Entity's own abilities. The Entity and its Interfaces probably have some good reasons to keep that knowledge as closely guarded as possible, which is why Yuki chooses not to tell Kyon her group's beliefs regarding Haruhi's powers.
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[[WMG: Haruhi is what happens when [[TheMatrix The One]] dies before being freed.]]
* Haruhi commited suicide after that baseball game when she realized how boring her life was. The factions monitering her are not really time travelers, aliens or espers but Freed Humans from Zion, Specialized Agents and regular humans who she channeled some of her anomoly powers into since she does not have the framework undertsanding of the Matrix to properly use them herself.
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[[WMG: Itsuki is wrong: Haruhi wouldn't magically retcon him into being gay for Kyon... because ''she already did.'']]
* As noted by many a fan, the majority of Itsuki's AmbiguouslyGay behavior occurs when Haruhi isn't looking - just like all the supernatural occurrences. The one time when Itsuki admitted having a straight crush on Haruhi? In Yuki's retconned world where Haruhi had no reality-warping powers. Whether Itsuki isn't aware of this or does but is simply too embarrassed to admit it is still up in the air.
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* Or Taniguchi really is apart of the Esper faction...
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[[WMG: The SOS Brisage was assembled as Haruhi (or Kyon's) own personal harem]]
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* It's been pointed out on this page that Kyon's sister looks a lot like Mikuru, but on the [[Characters/HaruhiSuzumiya character page]], it's pointed out that she also looks a lot like ''Haruhi''. Kyon and Itsuki also look like they could be related. Also, [[HandsOffParenting parents are largely absent in this show]], and while Kyon's mother occasionally gets mentioned in the novels, his father is completely absent. This is because, due to TimeTravel, Kyon is the father (or possibly grandfather in Mikuru's case) of every member of the SOS Brigade except for Yuki. [[MyOwnGrampa Yes, including himself; Mikuru being his granddaughter is based on the idea that she's Imouto-chan's daughter.]]
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In second sezon Kyon will unwittingly slide between alternate universes, and Koizumi will detect slider Kyon by mole changing it's place - right versus left. You can't change your chirality in three dimensions, but in four dimensions space you can rotate into your own mirror image. And sliding between universes might involve more dimensions.
In second sezon Kyon will unwittingly slide between alternate universes, and Koizumi will detect slider Kyon by mole changing it's place - right versus left. You can't change your chirality in three dimensions, but in four dimensions space you can rotate into your own mirror image. And sliding between universes might involve more dimensions.
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Eventually haruhi Haruhi is going to catch on and with on. With the cat out of the bag bag, someone will decide to ask haruhi Haruhi if she has any clue how the hell she got her powers in the first place.haruhi place. Haruhi will then make up her own bizarre and nonsensical origin story that thanks to her reality warping powers will retroactively become true thus giving her her reality warping powers.
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[[WMG: Haruhi is a composer]]
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If we take Kyon to be a MegaTen MC, then look at it. He can't use any supernatural abilities, but he has an uncanny knack for persuading various 'demons' to side with him. The Data entities can use digital machinations to interfere with reality, and probably could write a program that summoned demons. The presence of time travel was demonstrated in Raidou's games. The 'Espers' are likely Avatar Tuners, albeit ones that can only transform in innately unreal places. The factions are The Organization, the IDE, and Mikuru's employers on the Law side, and the SCD, future dissidents, and rogue espers are the Chaos sides. Kyon is currently on the nuetral path, and has actually persuaded the representatives of Law to side with him over their fellows. The Enclosed Spaces are miniature Vortex Worlds created by Haruhi, who somehow has YHVH's power to recreate the world. Also consider that Haruhi's agents within the enclosed spaces are what appear to be Gog Magog http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/File:Gog_Magog.jpg except with glowing red orbs...a sign of her control?
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If we take Kyon to be a MegaTen MC, then look at it. He can't use any supernatural abilities, but he has an uncanny knack for persuading various 'demons' to side with him. The Data entities can use digital machinations to interfere with reality, and probably could write a program that summoned demons. The presence of time travel was demonstrated in Raidou's games. The 'Espers' are likely Avatar Tuners, albeit ones that can only transform in innately unreal places. The factions are The Organization, the IDE, and Mikuru's employers on the Law side, and the SCD, future dissidents, and rogue espers are the Chaos sides. Kyon is currently on the nuetral path, and has actually persuaded the representatives of Law to side with him over their fellows. The Enclosed Spaces are miniature Vortex Worlds created by Haruhi, who somehow has YHVH's power to recreate the world. Also consider that Haruhi's agents within the enclosed spaces are what appear to be Gog Magog http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/File:Gog_Magog.jpg com/wiki/Gogmagog except with glowing red orbs...a sign of her control?
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[[WMG: Haruhi takes place in the ShinMegamiTensei universe]]
If we take Kyon to be a MegaTen MC, then look at it. He can't use any supernatural abilities, but he has an uncanny knack for persuading various 'demons' to side with him. The Data entities can use digital machinations to interfere with reality, and probably could write a program that summoned demons. The presence of time travel was demonstrated in Raidou's games. The 'Espers' are likely Avatar Tuners, albeit ones that can only transform in innately unreal places. The factions are The Organization, the IDE, and Mikuru's employers on the Law side, and the SCD, future dissidents, and rogue espers are the Chaos sides. Kyon is currently on the nuetral path, and has actually persuaded the representatives of Law to side with him over their fellows. The Enclosed Spaces are miniature Vortex Worlds created by Haruhi, who somehow has YHVH's power to recreate the world. Also consider that Haruhi's agents within the enclosed spaces are what appear to be Gog Magog http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/File:Gog_Magog.jpg except with glowing red orbs...a sign of her control?
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* Given some of the insane time loops I wouldn't be surprised if the Kyon from that time frame was behind her, the present Kyon was at the 1st base line and a Kyon from the future was actually playing the game in some capacity.
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** IS going to, why not just is, I mean he did in essence make all of us go DidYouJustFlipOffCthulhu to the IDE at the end of disappearance... I think he's really starting to get sick of the conspiracies and the whole bloody Masquerade.
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He always said he wanted to be ginger ...
He always said he wanted to be ginger ...
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** Who says his name has to be written in katakana?
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