History WMG / Halloween

* Or even Michael himself.

** Other

Now any of the sequels or continuities ([[Film/HalloweenII1981 [=H2 '81=]]], [[Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers the]] [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Thorn]] [[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers trilogy]], the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater H20]] [[Film/HalloweenResurrection line]] or the [[Film/Halloween2018 2018 movie]]) definitely could've also occurred within the universe's internal chronology after the original film; it would just be a question of which one. [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch The third movie]] as well as the [[Music/RobZombie [[Film/Halloween2007 remake]] [[Film/HalloweenII2009 duology]] would likely be [[AlternateUniverse completely separate universes]] if nothing else.

With [[AlternateContinuity so many continuities]] and [[AlternateTimeline timelines]], the series is like a strange anthology of sorts only with the same characters in each story. Any sequel, reboot, remake, even EU books and comics can be an '''''in-universe''''' incarnation of the following including, but not limited to:

Now any of the sequels or continuities ([[Film/HalloweenII1981 [=H2 '81=]]], [[Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers the]] [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Thorn]] [[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers trilogy]], the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater H20 line]] or the [[Film/Halloween2018 2018 movie]]) definitely could've also occurred within the universe's internal chronology after the original film; it would just be a question of which one. [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch The third movie]] as well as the [[Music/RobZombie Zombie]] [[Film/Halloween2007 duology]] would likely be [[AlternateUniverse completely separate universes]] if nothing else.

** A "VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory" [[ShowWithinAShow franchise]] (films, books, games, etc.) about the infamous 1978 massacre (highly akin to how ''Film/TheAmityvilleHorror'' movies are based on RealLife murders).

** Provided the original ''Halloween'' is all that happened, at least one FridgeHorror says that Michael, despite taking '''6 rounds to the chest''', escaped that fateful night in 1978 never to be seen or heard from ever again[[spoiler:...and is possibly still at large to this day]] [[note]]Cue [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLFx30Ijiq0 ''Halloween'' theme]][[/note]].

[[WMG: ''Halloween'' '78 is the only real '''''confirmed''''' set of events that actually happened in-universe.]]
With [[AlternateContinuity so many continuities]] and [[AlternateTimeline timelines]], the series is like a strange anthology of sorts only with the same characters in each story. Any sequel, reboot, remake, even EU books and comics that followed the first movie can be an '''in-universe''' incarnation of the following including, but not limited to:

Now any of the sequels or continuities ([[Film/HalloweenII1981 [=H2'81=]]], [[Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers the]] [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Thorn]] [[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers trilogy]], the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater H20 line]] or the [[Film/Halloween2018 2018 movie]]) definitely could've also occurred within the universe's internal chronology; it would just be a question of which one. [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch The third movie]] as well as the [[Music/RobZombie Zombie]] [[Film/Halloween2007 duology]] would likely be [[AlternateUniverse completely separate universes]] if nothing else.
** Provided the original ''Halloween'' is all that happened, at least one FridgeHorror says that Michael, despite taking '''6 rounds to the chest''', escaped that fateful night in 1978 never to be seen or heard from ever again\\
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...and is possibly still at large to this day.

Now any of the sequels or continuities (''[[Film/HalloweenII1981 [=H2'81=]]]'', [[Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers the]] [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Thorn]] [[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers trilogy]], the ''[[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater H20 line]]'', the [[Music/RobZombie Zombie]][[Film/Halloween2007 -verse]] or the [[Film/Halloween2018 2018 movie]]) definitely could've also occurred within the universe's internal chronology; it would just be a question of which one.
** If the original ''Halloween'' is all that happened, at least one FridgeHorror says that Michael, despite taking '''6 rounds to the chest''', escaped that fateful night in 1978 never to be seen or heard from ever again

** ...and is possibly still at large to this day.

With [[AlternateContinuity so many continuities]] and [[AlternateTimeline timelines]], the series is like a strange anthology of sorts only with the same characters in each story. Any sequel, reboot, remake, even EU books and comics that followed the first movie can be an one of the following that include, but are not limited to:

** A "VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory" [[ShowWithinAShow film series]] about the infamous 1978 massacre (highly akin to how ''Film/TheAmityvilleHorror'' movies are based on RealLife murders).

Now any of the sequels or continuities ([[Film/HalloweenII1981 H2'81]], the Thorn trilogy, the H20 Line, the [[Creator/RobZombie Zombie]]verse or the 2018 movie) definitely could've also occurred within the universe's internal chronology; it would just be a question of which one.
** If the original ''Halloween'' is all that happened, at least one FridgeHorror is that Michael, despite taking ''6 rounds to the chest'', escaped that fateful night in 1978 never to be seen or heard from ever again...and is possibly still at large to this day.

Any sequel, reboot, remake, even EU books and comics that followed is either an in-universe campfire ghost story, a popular UrbanLegend (told every AllHallowsEve of course) or maybe even a "VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory" [[ShowWithinAShow Film Within a Film]] adaptation of the infamous 1978 massacre highly akin to how ''Film/TheAmityvilleHorror'' movies are based on RealLife murders. With [[AlternateContinuity so many continuities]] and [[AlternateTimeline timelines]], the series is like a strange anthology of sorts only with the same characters in each story.\\
Now any of the sequels/continuities could also be what really occurred in that universe's chronology from the events of the first film; it would just be a question of which one it is. However, if the original ''Halloween'' is all that happened, at least one FridgeHorror says that Michael, despite taking ''6 rounds to the chest'', escaped that night in 1978 never to be seen or heard from again...and is possibly still at large to this day.

[[WMG: ''Halloween'''78 is the only real set of events that actually happened in-universe.]]
Any sequel is either an in-universe campfire horror story, an urban legend or even a [[ShowWithinAShow film within a film]] adaptation of the 1978 massacre similar to how Franchise/TheAmityvilleHorror movies are based on RealLife murders.

* Even if that were the case, he's still the smartest person you'll probably ever know when it comes to dealing with Michael and the only hope Haddonfield had. While it might've took Loomis 8 years to try and reach Michael, he's the only one who actually DID figure out Michael was, possibly, Evil Incarnate before anybody while everyone else was fooled and/or ignored Loomis' pleas.

[[WMG: [[BustaRhymes Freddie Harris]] in ''Halloween: Resurrection'' has a CompellingVoice and does not realize it]]

Right now they're kind of in a bind, as every previous film has featured Sam Loomis or Laurie Strode, keeping the series more tightly bound to its first installment than most other slasher franchises, and the audience seems to have lost their taste for remakes. Donald Pleasance is dead, and Jamie Lee Curtis was furious about H20 not being the end of the franchise, so she probably won't want to return either. That leaves Creator/DanielleHarris as their best option for a survivor from the previous movies, bringing Jamie back to face her uncle.

The dynamic will be distinguished from H20 primarily because of the age at which Jamie previously faced Michael. Laurie, as traumatized as she was, faced Michael in her late teens and was at least able to understand him as a human, if a far from normal one. To Jamie, though, who faced him as a child, Michael is the devil, and her encounter with him never let her grow up. On the one hand, Michael will have a much greater intimidation factor on her than he had over his sister. On the other hand, Jamie will be CrazyPrepared because she always knew he'd return.
** Vetoed by writer-director David Gordon Green. It's going to be a direct sequel to Halloween II, a la H20. My personal theory is that'll it take a similar approach to Halloween IV. A sequel set some decade later with a mostly new cast focusing either on Michael somehow returning from the dead, or a copycat killer (who may be a returning character, say Tommy Doyle). It's the best way to keep the feel of the original without screwing up continuity and pissing off the fanboys.

[[WMG: The Thorn trilogy is canon to ''H20'', albiet with some BroadStrokes retconning]]

* Not to mention that Dr. Sam Loomis has clearly been a psychiatrist long before he took on Michael as a patient in 1963 (especially if one takes into account of the H20 canon comic ''Sam''.), whereas Sam Loomis from ''Psycho'', which takes place in 1960, is obviously not nor is that Sam in the same age area as Dr. Loomis. And Billy Loomis from ''Scream'' is both ''much'' too young to be Dr. Loomis' son and his interest in serial killers is ''vastly'' different.

[[WMG: In Film/Halloween2018 Mike Myers will have a small part as a victim of Michael.]]

* Alternatively, ''Michael'' is a TimeLord, given that we very rarely see his face and he's able to come back from death again and again, with different body language each time. Also, the Tenth Doctor based his fashion sense on Doctor Loomis.

* Even if that were the case, he's still the smartest person you'll probably ever know when it comes to dealing with Michael and the only hope Haddonfield had. While it might've took Loomis 8 years to reach Michael, he's the only one who actually DID figure out Michael was, possibly, Evil Incarnate before anybody while everyone else was fooled and/or ignored Loomis' pleas.

[[WMG: The Thorn trilogy is canon to H20, albiet with some BroadStrokes retconning]]
Laurie hooked up with Jimmy Lloyd after the events of ''Film/HalloweenII,'' giving birth to Jamie Lloyd. Jimmy died in a car crash, and Laurie chose to use the opportunity to fake her death and change her identity. Her daughter, believing she had died, was sent to live with the Carruthers in Haddonfield while Laurie moved to California under the alias of "Keri Tate," cutting herself off from her daughter so she wouldn't ever be put in danger. Michael awoke from his coma, and at some point returned home and killed Jamie, and managed to slip away from Loomis yet again. Loomis at some point learned Laurie was alive and tried to track both her and her brother down, but died before he could do anything substantial. Michael then broke into his house, stole his files on Laurie, and tracked her to Summer Glen, where he finally died for the final time. (As far as I'm concerned, ''Resurrection'' is non-canon.)

* Even if that were the case, he's still the smartest person you'll probably ever know when it comes to dealing with Michael and the only hope Haddonfield had. While it might've took Loomis 8 years to reach Michael, he's the only one who actually DID figure out Michael was, possibly, Evil Incarnate while everyone else was fooled and/or ignored Loomis' pleas.

* Jossed. It would be a paradoxical if Michael existed in ''Halloween III'' as a commercial for "the immortal classic" ''Halloween'' (1978) appears in the movie.

[[WMG: The upcoming Blumhouse film will be a sequel to H5, but ignore H6.]]

[[WMG: Dr. Sam Loomis is the same Sam Loomis in ''{{Film/Psycho}}''. He is also the estranged father of Billy Loomis from the first ''{{Film/Scream}}'' movie]]

[[WMG: TheHermit at the beginning of H5 was a member of the Cult of Thorn.]]

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Myers started out as a sociopathic murderer with a lot of strength. As the franchise goes on, he just gets more powerful to the point that an axe to the chest fails to slow him down. Eventually, he gained enough power to become the HumanoidAbomination known as the [[TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]]. Along with gaining new power, his mask and his face merged together to form TheBlank.

This also characterizes his motives. He targets his sisters to wipe out ties to his human side; when he kills young women, he sometimes hesitates when they mistake him for someone else- [[FreudWasRight he's aroused]], which is a lingering trace of his humanity, probably one he's not used to since he was locked up when he was a boy. The rest are either in the way, or killed because he's actively trying to be a monster, though with the girls there is probably some sexual element to it that he might not fully get.

This also characterises his motives. He targets his sisters to wipe out ties to his human side; when he kills young women, he sometimes hesitates when they mistake him for someone else- [[FreudWasRight he's aroused]], which is a lingering trace of his humanity, probably one he's not used to since he was locked up when he was a boy. The rest are either in the way, or killed because he's actively trying to be a monster, though with the girls there is probably some sexual element to it that he might not fully get.

* Were we watching the same film? He spends almost the entire movie trying to warn the sherriff that Michael is loose, and in all likelihood will be returning to Haddonfield. Also, killing one person does not qualify as a "SerialKiller". Even the three he did in TheRemake only makes him a "Multiple Murderer", as they they were all in the same time frame.

It would explain why Loomis when to someone at least remotely calm to a general prick in the second film, and to someone who would snap at reporters.

His first feat is persuading Sarah to participate in the web show against her better instincts; nothing too special, but foreshadowing things to come;

In the Thorn trilogy, anyway. It is pretty obvious, given the scene in five when he hesitates killing Jamie. He only murders because of the curse, and he hates that he does. And thats why he walks slowly. He is trying to stop, but can't.

Right now they're kind of in a bind, as every previous film has featured Sam Loomis or Laurie Strode, keeping the series more tightly bound to it's first installment than most other slasher franchises, and the audience seems to have lost their taste for remakes. Pleasance is dead, and Curtis was furious about H20 not being the end of the franchise, so she probably won't want to return either. That leaves DanielleHarris as their best option for a survivor from the previous movies, bringing Jamie back to face her uncle.