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Despite being the eldest and also the holder of Major Noba blood and the Gae Bolg, Altena doesn't become queen of New Thracia unless Leif is dead. This probably isn't just chauvinism at work. One possible reason why she's not the queen is because she didn't help liberate the Manster District. Altena has a claim to New Thracia because she's Quan's daughter, and the princess of Leonster. Leif helped liberate Leonster when Altena refused to fight, so he would be preferable as king. Altena is also acceptable, but not over Leif.

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Despite being the eldest and also the holder of Major Noba blood and the Gae Bolg, Altena doesn't become queen of New Thracia unless Leif is dead. This probably isn't just chauvinism at work. One possible reason why she's not the queen is because she didn't help liberate the Manster District. Altena has a claim to New Thracia because she's Quan's daughter, and the princess of Leonster. Leif helped liberate Leonster when Altena refused to fight, so he would be preferable as king. Altena is also acceptable, but not over Leif.Leif.

[[WMG: In the event of a ''Genealogy'' remake]]
* Every pairing will have a conversation at some point (ex. there will be love conversations between Alec and Raquesis or Dew and Ayra)
* There will be cameos from ''Thracia 776''
* There will be chapters detailing what is going on on the other side of the world (ex. Issach in the first generation, Augustria and Silesse in the second)
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** Trailer for Fire Emblem If (2015) showed some Japanese castles and what appeared to be naginata and katana users so you are probably not too far off. The trailer also included what looks like a Middle Eastern dancer so it's probably not going to be completely Japanese themed.

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The actions of the Loptyr Empire would be the Roman Empire, based on the fact that it conquered Jugdral. After the empire was broken, the various territories rearranged themselves in different manners. Groups of independent territories bunched together, forming countries (Manster, Granvalle, etc.) Some territories remained independent (Verdane, Sileisa). The territories you see in the game are small, because the territories in real life were relatively small compared to today's countries. Arvis's plans to conquer Jugdral and form one nation state could be seen as Charlemagne forming his country (Was it France, Germany, or both?). Same with [[spoiler: Leif forming the Kingdom of New Thracia.]] Nation building began in this game.

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The actions of the Loptyr Empire would be the Roman Empire, based on the fact that it conquered Jugdral. After the empire was broken, the various territories rearranged themselves in different manners. Groups of independent territories bunched together, forming countries (Manster, Granvalle, etc.) Some territories remained independent (Verdane, Sileisa). The territories you see in the game are small, because the territories in real life were relatively small compared to today's countries. Arvis's plans to conquer Jugdral and form one nation state could be seen as Charlemagne forming his country (Was it France, Germany, or both?). Same with [[spoiler: Leif forming the Kingdom of New Thracia.Thracia, or in the endings where Granvale ends up annexing other countries.]] Nation building began in this game.



This assumes that all of the games take place in the same world. Almost every game has a country in the north that's cold, and a relatively mild southern end. The world would be pretty top heavy, unless some maps are located in the southern hemisphere and have the north and south inverted.

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This assumes that all of the games take place in the same world. Almost every game has a country in the north that's cold, and a relatively mild southern end. The world would be pretty top heavy, unless some maps are located in the southern hemisphere and have the north and south inverted.inverted.

[[WMG: After ''Genealogy'' and ''Thracia'', there will be a huge succession crisis.]]
If you paired up everyone in the first and second generation, you could end up with every character being related by blood or marriage. Some time after those games (could be centuries), the king of Granvale dies with no heir, and nobles and royalty all try to claim the throne based on their shared lineage with the king.

[[WMG: Altena is second in line to the throne of New Thracia in the ending because she did not liberate Leonster.]]
Despite being the eldest and also the holder of Major Noba blood and the Gae Bolg, Altena doesn't become queen of New Thracia unless Leif is dead. This probably isn't just chauvinism at work. One possible reason why she's not the queen is because she didn't help liberate the Manster District. Altena has a claim to New Thracia because she's Quan's daughter, and the princess of Leonster. Leif helped liberate Leonster when Altena refused to fight, so he would be preferable as king. Altena is also acceptable, but not over Leif.

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''This WMG's parallels are based on the political actions of the nations, not whether they were good or evil''

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''This WMG's parallels are based on the political actions of the nations, not whether they were good or evil''evil. Also, the original poster has a limited knowledge of history.''



Most other Fire Emblem games would take place after the nation-building stage, given the size of the territories.

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Most other Fire Emblem games would take place after the nation-building stage, given the size of the territories.territories.

[[WMG: At least one continent map is upside-down.]]
This assumes that all of the games take place in the same world. Almost every game has a country in the north that's cold, and a relatively mild southern end. The world would be pretty top heavy, unless some maps are located in the southern hemisphere and have the north and south inverted.
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Assuming that the king was a Forseti Major, the princes are Queen Rahna's brothers.

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Assuming that the king was a Forseti Major, the princes are Queen Rahna's brothers.brothers.
It can be fairly assumed that Holy Blood does not fade over many generations, given that the Loptyr Blood link lasted so long...

[[WMG: Jugdral's history is an analogy of the Middle Ages]]
''This WMG's parallels are based on the political actions of the nations, not whether they were good or evil''
The actions of the Loptyr Empire would be the Roman Empire, based on the fact that it conquered Jugdral. After the empire was broken, the various territories rearranged themselves in different manners. Groups of independent territories bunched together, forming countries (Manster, Granvalle, etc.) Some territories remained independent (Verdane, Sileisa). The territories you see in the game are small, because the territories in real life were relatively small compared to today's countries. Arvis's plans to conquer Jugdral and form one nation state could be seen as Charlemagne forming his country (Was it France, Germany, or both?). Same with [[spoiler: Leif forming the Kingdom of New Thracia.]] Nation building began in this game.
Most other Fire Emblem games would take place after the nation-building stage, given the size of the territories.

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Now that we know that all Fire Emblem games take place in the same universe, and the appearance of Laguz Script implies that Tellius was the first in the series, that seems to imply a connection between the Laguz, the Manakete, and the Taguel. It's possible that the Golden Age of the Dragons was actually the Golden Age of the Dragon Laguz, and the birth rates were the result of breeding with Beorc. It's easy to assume that one who gives birth to a Branded could, and likely would, give birth to a Dragon Laguz after hooking up with another mate. It's possible that even if there was nothing against Laguz breeding with Beorc, that hooking up with a Laguz wasn't intended, and so after years of learning tolerance and promoting welfare, birth rates declined immensely, and mutations fcrmed. So, the Dragon Laguz became the Manakete, tension soared, and dragons began their decline.

[[The Silessian princes are either illegitimate or in-laws]]
In Chapter 4 of ''Genealogy'', you fight the princes, Llewyn's uncles. But if you check the Holy Blood chart, they don't have anything on it, minor or major.

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Now that we know that all Fire Emblem games take place in the same universe, and the appearance of Laguz Script implies that Tellius was the first in the series, that seems to imply a connection between the Laguz, the Manakete, and the Taguel. It's possible that the Golden Age of the Dragons was actually the Golden Age of the Dragon Laguz, and the birth rates were the result of breeding with Beorc. It's easy to assume that one who gives birth to a Branded could, and likely would, give birth to a Dragon Laguz after hooking up with another mate. It's possible that even if there was nothing against Laguz breeding with Beorc, that hooking up with a Laguz wasn't intended, and so after years of learning tolerance and promoting welfare, birth rates declined immensely, and mutations fcrmed.formed. So, the Dragon Laguz became the Manakete, tension soared, and dragons began their decline.

[[The [[WMG: The Silessian princes are either illegitimate or in-laws]]
In Chapter 4 of ''Genealogy'', you fight the princes, Llewyn's uncles. But if you check the Holy Blood chart, they don't have anything on it, minor or major. So they are probably siblings or cousins of the monarch who was not a Forseti descendant.
Assuming that Queen Rahna is a Forseti Major and her husband married into the royal family, the princes are her husband's brothers.
Assuming that the king was a Forseti Major, the princes are Queen Rahna's brothers.
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Now that we know that all Fire Emblem games take place in the same universe, and the appearance of Laguz Script implies that Tellius was the first in the series, that seems to imply a connection between the Laguz, the Manakete, and the Taguel. It's possible that the Golden Age of the Dragons was actually the Golden Age of the Dragon Laguz, and the birth rates were the result of breeding with Beorc. It's easy to assume that one who gives birth to a Branded could, and likely would, give birth to a Dragon Laguz after hooking up with another mate. It's possible that even if there was nothing against Laguz breeding with Beorc, that hooking up with a Laguz wasn't intended, and so after years of learning tolerance and promoting welfare, birth rates declined immensely, and mutations fcrmed. So, the Dragon Laguz became the Manakete, tension soared, and dragons began their decline.

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Now that we know that all Fire Emblem games take place in the same universe, and the appearance of Laguz Script implies that Tellius was the first in the series, that seems to imply a connection between the Laguz, the Manakete, and the Taguel. It's possible that the Golden Age of the Dragons was actually the Golden Age of the Dragon Laguz, and the birth rates were the result of breeding with Beorc. It's easy to assume that one who gives birth to a Branded could, and likely would, give birth to a Dragon Laguz after hooking up with another mate. It's possible that even if there was nothing against Laguz breeding with Beorc, that hooking up with a Laguz wasn't intended, and so after years of learning tolerance and promoting welfare, birth rates declined immensely, and mutations fcrmed. So, the Dragon Laguz became the Manakete, tension soared, and dragons began their decline.decline.

[[The Silessian princes are either illegitimate or in-laws]]
In Chapter 4 of ''Genealogy'', you fight the princes, Llewyn's uncles. But if you check the Holy Blood chart, they don't have anything on it, minor or major.
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*Uh, no. It is HEAVILY, HEAVILY implied that all of the Fire Emblem games take place in the same universe, as of Awakening. From the throwaway lines about Fire Emblem history, to Chrom recognizing several heroes that aren't from Akaneia and Jugdral, to all the weapons from different games, that it all takes place on different continents in the same universe. Jugdral's lack of one can easily be chalked up to {{Early Installment Weirdness}}. So, in reality, this is all but {{Jossed}}.



I think that the degradation of the manaketes and their birth rate lowing is no coincidence. Manaketes are dragons in human form, so they should have to be in that form to give birth to a dragon child, right? But since dragons have been degrading, they can't stay in dragon form for very long normally. But female manaketes must stay in dragon form for as long as the pregnancy lasts, so they must have a child while in dragon form for however long it takes, while retaining sanity and not attacking whoever is nearby and without provoking anyone who can kill them. Woow...

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I think that the degradation of the manaketes and their birth rate lowing is no coincidence. Manaketes are dragons in human form, so they should have to be in that form to give birth to a dragon child, right? But since dragons have been degrading, they can't stay in dragon form for very long normally. But female manaketes must stay in dragon form for as long as the pregnancy lasts, so they must have a child while in dragon form for however long it takes, while retaining sanity and not attacking whoever is nearby and without provoking anyone who can kill them. Woow...Woow...

*Actually, that doesn't make any sense at all. Tiki and Nowi are perfectly capable of giving birth to Manakete in human form. Although we have nothing to prove this, to invoke {{Occam's Razor}}, there's no reason to assume that Manaketes couldn't give birth to full-blooded Manaketes in human form when breeding with Manakete. Which leads to an alternate theory...

[[WMG: Manakete birth rates declined because...]]
Now that we know that all Fire Emblem games take place in the same universe, and the appearance of Laguz Script implies that Tellius was the first in the series, that seems to imply a connection between the Laguz, the Manakete, and the Taguel. It's possible that the Golden Age of the Dragons was actually the Golden Age of the Dragon Laguz, and the birth rates were the result of breeding with Beorc. It's easy to assume that one who gives birth to a Branded could, and likely would, give birth to a Dragon Laguz after hooking up with another mate. It's possible that even if there was nothing against Laguz breeding with Beorc, that hooking up with a Laguz wasn't intended, and so after years of learning tolerance and promoting welfare, birth rates declined immensely, and mutations fcrmed. So, the Dragon Laguz became the Manakete, tension soared, and dragons began their decline.
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It'd certainly explain why every Jake we've seen so far (all two of them) is romantically linked to that game's Anna. Perhaps the two families have made some sort of pact, resulting in what can only be assumed as {{Perfectly Arranged Marriage}}s for the Annas and Jakes. The family that Jake hails from, however, is far smaller than that of the Annas, with more genetic variability among their members, thus accounting for Jake's more limited appearances (the Archanea games and ''Blazing Sword'') and the wildly different looks for each Jake.

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It'd certainly explain why every Jake we've seen so far (all two of them) is romantically linked to that game's Anna. Perhaps the two families have made some sort of pact, resulting in what can only be assumed as {{Perfectly Arranged Marriage}}s for the Annas and Jakes. The family that Jake hails from, however, is far smaller than that of the Annas, with more genetic variability among their members, thus accounting for Jake's more limited appearances (the Archanea games and ''Blazing Sword'') and the wildly different looks for each Jake.Jake.

[[WMG: Why Manakete fertility rate is so low.]]
I think that the degradation of the manaketes and their birth rate lowing is no coincidence. Manaketes are dragons in human form, so they should have to be in that form to give birth to a dragon child, right? But since dragons have been degrading, they can't stay in dragon form for very long normally. But female manaketes must stay in dragon form for as long as the pregnancy lasts, so they must have a child while in dragon form for however long it takes, while retaining sanity and not attacking whoever is nearby and without provoking anyone who can kill them. Woow...
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After all, Link in more recent games is essentially Donnel if he were a Lord and lacked the low stat caps. A lot of the other characters match up to your typical ''FE'' classes quite well, too (Zelda = Princess/Sage, Sheik and ''[=OoT=]''!Impa = Assassin, Twinrova and Veran = Sorceress, Nayru = Bard [[note]]a male class, yes, but Troubadours (or should that be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trobairitz Trobairitz?]]) are healers, and Din's time magic seems like it'd be more along the lines of Special Dance and Galdrar, never mind that she's a harp player[[/note]], Din = Dancer, Onox = General, Vaati = Dark Mage/Sorcerer, etc.).

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After all, Link in more recent games is essentially Donnel if he were a Lord and lacked the low stat caps. A lot of the other characters match up to your typical ''FE'' classes quite well, too (Zelda = Princess/Sage, Sheik and ''[=OoT=]''!Impa = Assassin, Twinrova and Veran = Sorceress, Nayru = Bard [[note]]a male class, yes, but Troubadours (or should that be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trobairitz Trobairitz?]]) are healers, and Din's time magic seems like it'd be more along the lines of Special Dance and Galdrar, never mind that she's a harp player[[/note]], Din = Dancer, Onox = General, Vaati = Dark Mage/Sorcerer, etc.).).

[[WMG:Like Anna, there's an entire family of Jakes running around the Outrealms.]]
It'd certainly explain why every Jake we've seen so far (all two of them) is romantically linked to that game's Anna. Perhaps the two families have made some sort of pact, resulting in what can only be assumed as {{Perfectly Arranged Marriage}}s for the Annas and Jakes. The family that Jake hails from, however, is far smaller than that of the Annas, with more genetic variability among their members, thus accounting for Jake's more limited appearances (the Archanea games and ''Blazing Sword'') and the wildly different looks for each Jake.

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[[WMG: The various promotion seals are made of a material similar to the evolutionary stones in ''Pokemon''.]]
Much like in Fire Emblem, evolving a pokemon early with a stone makes them powerful early on but with serious drawbacks.

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[[WMG: The [[WMG:The various promotion seals are made of a material similar to the evolutionary stones in ''Pokemon''.''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''.]]
Much like in Fire Emblem, ''Fire Emblem'', evolving a pokemon Pokémon early with a stone makes them powerful early on but with serious drawbacks.



[[WMG: "Chris" is Ike, and Soren is "Mark".]]
Chris is rather similar to Ike (though moreso to [=FE9=] Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius (since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Archaneia, Jugdral, and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.

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[[WMG: "Chris" [[WMG:"Chris" is Ike, and Soren is "Mark".]]
"Mark."]]
Chris is rather similar to Ike (though moreso more so to [=FE9=] Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius (since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Archaneia, Jugdral, and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.



[[WMG: All the games take place on the same planet. Also, the player takes the part of the Tactician Spirit, a spirit who aids the cause of right no matter what.]]

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[[WMG: All [[WMG:All the games take place on the same planet. Also, the player takes the part of the Tactician Spirit, a spirit who aids the cause of right no matter what.]]



Additionally, the games all take place in the same order they were published, with the exception of Fire Emblem 6/7. The Dragon Laguz from Tellius are the deteriorated descendants of the Dragons of [=FE7/6.=] About half the size, as well.

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Additionally, the games all take place in the same order they were published, with the exception of Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' 6/7. The Dragon Laguz from Tellius are the deteriorated descendants of the Dragons of [=FE7/6.=] About half the size, as well.



[[WMG:Sword of Seals 16x/Tower of Valni 8/Shadow Dragon 24x is a TARDIS]]
# In Shadow Dragon, Nagi, who is apparently the reincarnation/avatar/successor/something of Narga (who is one of the few things to exist in [[NonLinearSequel more than one setting]]), resides in it. (Would this make Narga a time lord?)

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[[WMG:Sword [[WMG:''Sword of Seals Seals'' 16x/Tower of Valni 8/Shadow Dragon 8/''Shadow Dragon'' 24x is a TARDIS]]
# In Shadow Dragon, ''Shadow Dragon'', Nagi, who is apparently the reincarnation/avatar/successor/something of Narga (who is one of the few things to exist in [[NonLinearSequel more than one setting]]), resides in it. (Would this make Narga a time lord?)



# What else could explain why they [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/NomadicTrooperGirl/VASM/valni_8.png look]] [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/NomadicTrooperGirl/VASM/Chapter16x.png the]] same? (Image of Shadow Dragon 24x needed...)

[[WMG: Spell books are the [[EyeOfNewt material components]] for spells]]

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# What else could explain why they [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/NomadicTrooperGirl/VASM/valni_8.png look]] [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/NomadicTrooperGirl/VASM/Chapter16x.png the]] same? (Image of Shadow Dragon ''Shadow Dragon'' 24x needed...)

[[WMG: Spell books [[WMG:Spellbooks are the [[EyeOfNewt material components]] for spells]]spells.]]



** Canon, except it's the INK on the page that's the catalyst for the spell. Breaking a Tome in Genealogy results in an "Empty Book", and in the OVA, you see the ink on Gharnef's tome materialize into his spell.

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** * Canon, except it's the INK on the page that's the catalyst for the spell. Breaking a Tome in Genealogy ''Genealogy'' results in an "Empty Book", and in the OVA, you see the ink on Gharnef's tome materialize into his spell.



(Completely stolen from the Fire Emblem wiki.) The prologue of ''Shadow Dragon'' is an entirely new level that was not present in the original game, and in it, you gain control of a few of the units that were in your starting army in the original: Marth, [[CrutchCharacter Jagen]], Cain, Abel, and Gordin. You also gain control of one brand-new character, Frey. During this prologue, you have to sacrifice a unit for use as a decoy, who will be LostForever -- not even the staff that revives the dead late in the game can bring that unit back (although by that point, [[CantCatchUp why would you want to]]?) -- in order to get a door to open. (You can avoid the use of the decoy by purposely killing Gordin, who appears as a recruitable "enemy", instead of recruiting him.) Not only would this explain where Frey was in the original game, but in Hard mode, where the prologue is automatically skipped, Frey is once again missing. It is therefore speculated that canonically, Frey sacrificed himself to allow Marth to escape prior to the start of the first game.

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(Completely stolen from the Fire ''Fire Emblem wiki.Wiki''.) The prologue of ''Shadow Dragon'' is an entirely new level that was not present in the original game, and in it, you gain control of a few of the units that were in your starting army in the original: Marth, [[CrutchCharacter Jagen]], Cain, Abel, and Gordin. You also gain control of one brand-new character, Frey. During this prologue, you have to sacrifice a unit for use as a decoy, who will be LostForever -- not even the staff that revives the dead late in the game can bring that unit back (although by that point, [[CantCatchUp why would you want to]]?) -- in order to get a door to open. (You can avoid the use of the decoy by purposely killing Gordin, who appears as a recruitable "enemy", instead of recruiting him.) Not only would this explain where Frey was in the original game, but in Hard mode, Mode, where the prologue is automatically skipped, Frey is once again missing. It is therefore speculated that canonically, Frey sacrificed himself to allow Marth to escape prior to the start of the first game.



[[WMG:The sacrifice/decoy in FESD is not dead, but was captured by Gra's troops.]]

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[[WMG:The sacrifice/decoy in FESD ''FESD'' is not dead, but was captured by Gra's troops.]]



Similar to how Frey is the canon sacrifice, one can assume that Norne is, in canon, killed during the prologue or simply never actually met up with Marth, seeing as how she doesn't appear in any mode except Normal, which is the only one where the prologue isn't skipped.

[[WMG: All people in 9 and 10 with green hair are related. ]]
One of Elincia's relatives took a trip to Begnion long before the game started. Apperantly having a negligable amount of self-control, he ended up producing fraternal twins with one woman, and a single boy with another. The second girl was actually a branded, and the child was Stefan. He was likely also Sothe's father. The twins were Sigrun and Rolf's mother; they don't get along well because the latter is a horrible person. At some point before meeting Rolf's father, she had another child, who she abandoned at an orphanage in Daein. We now know that that child as Aran. The rest is history.

[[WMG:Miledy and Zeiss are Priscilla's children]]

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Similar to how Frey is the canon sacrifice, one can assume that Norne is, in canon, killed during the prologue Prologue or simply never actually met up with Marth, seeing as how she doesn't appear in any mode except Normal, which is the only one where the prologue isn't skipped.

[[WMG: All [[WMG:All people in 9 and 10 with green hair are related. ]]
One of Elincia's relatives took a trip to Begnion long before the game started. Apperantly Apparently having a negligable negligible amount of self-control, he ended up producing fraternal twins with one woman, and a single boy with another. The second girl was actually a branded, and the child was Stefan. He was likely also Sothe's father. The twins were Sigrun and Rolf's mother; they don't get along well because the latter is a horrible person. At some point before meeting Rolf's father, she had another child, who she abandoned at an orphanage in Daein. We now know that that child as Aran. The rest is history.

[[WMG:Miledy and Zeiss are Priscilla's children]]children.]]



* They are too old to be Priscilla's kids, though. Not to mention Zeiss is younger than Miledy, which would mean Priscilla would have had to somehow manage carrying and giving birth to Miledy without the whole army knowing. Unless she bore Miledy first (pulling a Louise and getting pregnant near the end of the storyline), then got pregnant with Zeiss after the game's end just before Heath left. ...both of these would make for interesting AU fic, actually.

[[WMG: Mia's archrival is outside the Tellius timeline.]]

[[WMG: The Five Orbs from Marth's Fire Emblem Shield are the Sacred Stones in Magvel]]

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* They are too old to be Priscilla's kids, though. Not to mention Zeiss is younger than Miledy, which would mean Priscilla would have had to somehow manage carrying and giving birth to Miledy without the whole army knowing. Unless she bore Miledy first (pulling a Louise and getting pregnant near the end of the storyline), then got pregnant with Zeiss after the game's end just before Heath left. ...both Both of these would make for interesting AU fic, actually.

[[WMG: Mia's [[WMG:Mia's archrival is outside the Tellius timeline.]]

[[WMG: The Five Orbs [[WMG:The five orbs from Marth's Fire Emblem Shield are the Sacred Stones in Magvel]]Magvel.]]



* This seems unlikely, seeing that the 5 orbs reappear in Awakening, which is firmly established to be the last game in the timeline so far.

[[WMG: Jahn is full of crap and has no soul.]]
Jahn's explanation to Roy (and before that, presumably Zephiel) has one glaring flaw: it relies on the idea that dragons don't possess all those silly emotions humans do. Even neglecting Ninian, Nils, and Sophia because they are only half dragon (though Ninian and Nils grew up beyond the gate and would have learned the dragons' social norms...), it only takes about five seconds looking in Fa's general direction to see that this is obviously bullshit. Thus, Zephiel's justification for war and both the trustworthiness of Jahn's words and his motivations are called into question. But why would Jahn tell this to Zephiel, who was in a position to believe him as he had only met Idoun, and Roy, who really should have seen enough of Fa by then to know better?

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* This seems unlikely, seeing that the 5 orbs reappear in Awakening, ''Awakening'', which is firmly established to be the last game in the timeline so far.

[[WMG: Jahn
far.
* Chrom is also familiar with Magvelian lore in the Xenologues (particularly Smash Brethren 2 and Rogues and Redeemers 1, where Eirika and Ephraim's Einherjar can be recruited), which makes the prospect of the five gems being the Sacred Stones impossible when four of the Stones are destroyed over the course of the game.

[[WMG:Jahn
is full of crap and has no soul.]]
Jahn's explanation to Roy (and before that, presumably Zephiel) has one glaring flaw: it relies on the idea that dragons don't possess all those silly emotions humans do. Even neglecting Ninian, Nils, and Sophia because they are only half dragon half-dragon (though Ninian and Nils grew up beyond the gate and would have learned the dragons' social norms...), it only takes about five seconds looking in Fa's general direction to see that this is obviously bullshit. Thus, Zephiel's justification for war and both the trustworthiness of Jahn's words and his motivations are called into question. But why would Jahn tell this to Zephiel, who was in a position to believe him as he had only met Idoun, and Roy, who really should have seen enough of Fa by then to know better?



In every Fire Emblem world where it is known to exist, the most powerful, sought after, and elusive of magics is the ability to bring back the dead. Yet, despite there being no apparent foreshadowing of his ability to do so, Bramimond comes out of nowhere in the ending of Blazing Sword to bring back Ninian. Deus Ex Machina, right? Except that we know that Bramimond traded his soul for the greatest of dark magics. Since most dark magic is used for killing things, the obvious assumption is that that refers to Apocalypse, but we also know that Nergal frequently used dark magic to create at least a mockery of life -- his morphs. It's not a great leap to say that this might have been his pale imitation of Bramimond's greatest accomplishment. Of course, this means that Bramimond would have had cause and motivation to give everything to bring someone back from the dead -- perhaps an unknown family member or love interest, but due to Conservation of Detail most likely one of the other heroes. My guess, for the best symbolism/irony/shipping, is Elimine.

[[WMG: The Creature Campaign takes place ''after'' the Epilogue of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''.]]
Most of the characters that can be unlocked in Creature Campaign died during the course of the story, but King Hayden of Frelia didn't. However, it's likely that he ''did'' die at some point not too far into the future, as the endings for many Frelian characters mention Innes's ascension to the throne and Innes's own ending specifically states that he became king after his father died. Unlike the epilogue of ''Blazing Sword'', ''Sacred Stones'''s epilogue doesn't mention the deaths of any playable characters except for those that actually died during the course of gameplay -- not even CoolOldGuy Duessel, although his regular ending does mention "his remaining years". After selecting Creature Campaign in a given file and saving the file once, the Epilogue from that clear data can no longer be viewed. Theory: the Epilogue is "written" 5-10 years after the events of the game, while all participants are still alive (and in the case of those who were paired up, have started families), and that the Creature Campaign takes place after that has already been written and is therefore not included in the history; Hayden is already dead by this point.

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In every Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' world where it is known to exist, the most powerful, sought after, and elusive of magics is the ability to bring back the dead. Yet, despite there being no apparent foreshadowing of his ability to do so, Bramimond comes out of nowhere in the ending of Blazing Sword ''Blazing Sword'' to bring back Ninian. Deus Ex Machina, DeusExMachina, right? Except that we know that Bramimond traded his soul for the greatest of dark magics. Since most dark magic is used for killing things, the obvious assumption is that that refers to Apocalypse, but we also know that Nergal frequently used dark magic to create at least a mockery of life -- his morphs. It's not a great leap to say that this might have been his pale imitation of Bramimond's greatest accomplishment. Of course, this means that Bramimond would have had cause and motivation to give everything to bring someone back from the dead -- perhaps an unknown family member or love interest, but due to Conservation of Detail most likely one of the other heroes. My guess, for the best symbolism/irony/shipping, is Elimine.

[[WMG: The [[WMG:The Creature Campaign takes place ''after'' the Epilogue of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''.]]
Most of the characters that can be unlocked in Creature Campaign died during the course of the story, but King Hayden of Frelia didn't. However, it's likely that he ''did'' die at some point not too far into the future, as the endings for many Frelian characters mention Innes's ascension to the throne and Innes's own ending specifically states that he became king after his father died. Unlike the epilogue of ''Blazing Sword'', ''Sacred Stones'''s epilogue doesn't mention the deaths of any playable characters except for those that actually died during the course of gameplay -- not even CoolOldGuy Duessel, although his regular ending does mention "his remaining years". years." After selecting Creature Campaign in a given file and saving the file once, the Epilogue from that clear data can no longer be viewed. Theory: the Epilogue is "written" 5-10 years after the events of the game, while all participants are still alive (and in the case of those who were paired up, have started families), and that the Creature Campaign takes place after that has already been written and is therefore not included in the history; Hayden is already dead by this point.



[[WMG: [=FE13=] will star a player created lord]]

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[[WMG: [=FE13=] will star a player created lord]]player-created Lord.]]



** Half-Jossed, half-confirmed. From what we know so far, Krom seems to be the obvious Lord of [=FE13=], but the My Unit system will return, and it's hinted MU will have more connection to the story this time round.
*** Well, Robin/Avatar technically isn't a Lord, but [[WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou his/her death does result in]] GameOver, and he/she has a huge connection to the plot ''and'' ends up as essentially Chrom's right-hand (wo)man... For practical purposes, we can call this confirmed.

[[WMG: Athena is from a royal family in Archaneia.]]
Think about it. Though her Funetik Aksent muddles her words up a bit, she refers to herself in the third person using pronouns such as "we" and "us." This is a trait that royalty of European countries (such as England) wherein the ruler would use the plural form in order to suggest that they carried the backing of their ancestors when they made a decision. Also, she has a shadowy background, having been saved by villagers from drowning in a river. Where did she come from beforehand? Perhaps she was a runaway princess from a kingdom being trampled under Doluna, Grust, or Medon's campaign? And speaking of Medon, Athena and Princess Minerva are linked by their names, which are the Greek and Roman equivalents of one another, respectively.

[[WMG: The Falchion and the Tyrfing are the same weapon]]

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** * Half-Jossed, half-confirmed. From what we know so far, Krom seems to be the obvious Lord of [=FE13=], but the My Unit system will return, and it's hinted MU will have more connection to the story this time round.
*** ** Well, Robin/Avatar technically isn't a Lord, but [[WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou his/her death does result in]] GameOver, and he/she has a huge connection to the plot ''and'' ends up as essentially Chrom's right-hand (wo)man... For practical purposes, we can call this confirmed.

[[WMG: Athena [[WMG:Athena is from a royal family in Archaneia.]]
Think about it. Though her Funetik Aksent FunetikAksent muddles her words up a bit, she refers to herself in the third person using pronouns such as "we" and "us." This is a trait that royalty of European countries (such as England) wherein the ruler would use the plural form in order to suggest that they carried the backing of their ancestors when they made a decision. Also, she has a shadowy background, having been saved by villagers from drowning in a river. Where did she come from beforehand? Perhaps she was a runaway princess from a kingdom being trampled under Doluna, Grust, or Medon's campaign? And speaking of Medon, Athena and Princess Minerva are linked by their names, which are the Greek and Roman equivalents of one another, respectively.

[[WMG: The [[WMG:The Falchion and the Tyrfing are the same weapon]]



** The Falchion was made from one of Narga's fanged teeth. Dragons have more than one tooth. Maybe they're sibling weapons.
** New information from support conversations between Tiki and the Avatar in Awakening seems to imply that Marth and Sigurd are related. Perhaps at some point, one of Seliph's descendants traveled from Jugdral to Archaneia. As the dragon Holsety is both a staunch supporter of humanity and, in all probability, an Ice Dragon, it's not inconceivable that the Tyrfing was dropped off at the Ice Dragon Temple for a while before it was reforged from one of Naga's teeth.
*** Jossed. Both the Falchion and the Tyrfing appear in Awakening and it is clearly shown that they are not the same weapon.

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** * The Falchion was made from one of Narga's fanged teeth. Dragons have more than one tooth. Maybe they're sibling weapons.
** * New information from support conversations between Tiki and the Avatar in Awakening ''Awakening'' seems to imply that Marth and Sigurd are related. Perhaps at some point, one of Seliph's descendants traveled from Jugdral to Archaneia. As the dragon Holsety is both a staunch supporter of humanity and, in all probability, an Ice Dragon, it's not inconceivable that the Tyrfing was dropped off at the Ice Dragon Temple for a while before it was reforged from one of Naga's teeth.
*** ** Jossed. Both the Falchion and the Tyrfing appear in Awakening ''Awakening'' and it is clearly shown that they are not the same weapon.



Bramimond's name is another of the series' innumerable references to ''Literature/TheSongOfRoland''. While such references don't necessarily have to bear any resemblance to their origins, it's worth noting that the original bearer of the name (which started out with an 'e' on the end of it) was the wife of the Saracen king.

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Bramimond's name is another of the series' innumerable references to ''Literature/TheSongOfRoland''. While such references don't necessarily have to bear any resemblance to their origins, it's worth noting that the original bearer of the name (which started out with an 'e' "e" on the end of it) was the wife of the Saracen king.



** I'm not quite sure anymore, but I do vaguely believe that the German translation of the game did in fact refer to Brammimond as a female.

[[WMG: Alternately, Brammimond was an [[Main/PlayerCharacter Avatar-like character]], same as Mark, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Kris]], and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]]. ]]

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** * I'm not quite sure anymore, but I do vaguely believe that the German translation of the game did in fact refer to Brammimond as a female.

[[WMG: Alternately, Brammimond was an [[Main/PlayerCharacter [[PlayerCharacter Avatar-like character]], same as Mark, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Kris]], and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]]. ]]



Confirmed in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, the Laguz and Beorc evolved from scaly creatures into things which [[GeneticEngineering looked a lot more like their]] [[VainSorceress "goddess"]]. Why stop there? Who is to say we are looking at are humans in any of these games? 1: no game is on Earth, 2: strange phenotypes are always common, and 3: silver hurts them more than iron and steel. Silver is not particularly dangerous to humans as far as metals go, but many monsters hate silver.

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Confirmed in Path ''Path of Radiance Radiance'' and Radiant Dawn, ''Radiant Dawn'', the Laguz and Beorc evolved from scaly creatures into things which [[GeneticEngineering looked a lot more like their]] [[VainSorceress "goddess"]]. "goddess."]] Why stop there? Who is to say we are looking at are humans in any of these games? 1: no game is on Earth, 2: strange phenotypes are always common, and 3: silver hurts them more than iron and steel. Silver is not particularly dangerous to humans as far as metals go, but many monsters hate silver.



[[WMG: Ike was abducted by Aimee.]]

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[[WMG: Ike [[WMG:Ike was abducted by Aimee.]]



[[WMG: Anna is a TimeLord, and Jake is her companion.]]

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[[WMG: Anna [[WMG:Anna is a TimeLord, and Jake is her companion.]]



[[WMG: All the continents are part of the same earth]]
While there is a similar theory already here, mine is more specifically about the continents themselves rather than the time. Wondering about things like planet size (because when you have multiple continents the size of Asia, it takes a larger planet than Earth to keep them from touching), would be somewhat of a handwave, but almost required in this theory; however, I digress. You COULD narrow it down to three continents, Archaneia being the same as Jugdral (though I will leave that debate in of itself open for discussion -- who knows why WordOfGod would say that Jugdral took place thousands of years earlier?); leaving us with both Magvel and Elibe as the other two continents. While one must wonder why it takes the whole "Other World" concept of Awakening to reach characters from the other series, I think it has more to do with the major time differentials over anything else.

[[WMG: The events in FE Jugdral pass in Serial Experiments Lain.]]
Diadora is Lain; she in the manga wanted to have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always. The dark dragon god Loptous, knowing this, come back in her son, and wanting her power (Omnipotence), attempted to kill her an steal her power, but she rewrote reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood, and erasing herself from the FE series (this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)

[[WMG: Magvel ([=FE8=]) is Valencia ([=FE2=]), 1800 years later]]

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[[WMG: All [[WMG:All the continents are part of the same earth]]
Earth.]]
While there is a similar theory already here, mine is more specifically about the continents themselves rather than the time. Wondering about things like planet size (because when you have multiple continents the size of Asia, it takes a larger planet than Earth to keep them from touching), would be somewhat of a handwave, but almost required in this theory; however, I digress. You COULD narrow it down to three continents, Archaneia being the same as Jugdral (though I will leave that debate in of itself open for discussion -- who knows why WordOfGod would say that Jugdral took place thousands of years earlier?); leaving us with both Magvel and Elibe as the other two continents. While one must wonder why it takes the whole "Other World" concept of Awakening ''Awakening'' to reach characters from the other series, I think it has more to do with the major time differentials over anything else.

[[WMG: The
else.
* Where, then, does Tellius come in? After all, you have TheGreatFlood caused by Ashunera's emotions as part of the backstory, and Ylissean legends clearly spell out that Ike came from another world entirely. And on that note, what about the Dragon's Gate in ''Blazing Sword''? We never do get to see what's on the other side...

[[WMG:The
events in FE ''FE'' Jugdral pass in Serial Experiments Lain.''Anime/SerialExperimentsLain''.]]
Diadora is Lain; she in the manga manga, she wanted to have a life like in a princess histories, historical princess, but EVERTHING gone EVERYTHING went wrong to for her as always. The dark dragon Dark Dragon god Loptous, knowing this, come came back in her son, and and, wanting her power (Omnipotence), attempted to kill her an and steal her power, but she rewrote reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood, and erasing herself from the FE series (this ''FE'' series. (This doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)

[[WMG: Magvel
well. The reason? ''Fire Emblem: Awakening''.)

[[WMG:Magvel
([=FE8=]) is Valencia ([=FE2=]), 1800 years later]]



Of course, if you fudge the timeline a bit, that means Sacred Stones takes place pretty close to the time of Awakening ([=FE13=]), if not a couple centuries earlier. Hm...
* Possibly Jossed by Awakening. Valencia appears as Valm, and it looks very similar to how it did in [=FE2=]. However, there is nothing saying Sacred Stones doesn't happen after Awakening, although Eirika and Ephraim are most likely not descendants of Alm.

[[WMG: Murdoch is [[HalfHumanHybrid half dragon]].]]
Take a look at [[http://www.serenesforest.net/general/relation.html this]] page. It shows a comparison between characters' appearences in Blazing Sword and Sword of Seals, which takes place 20 years later. Notice how Murdoch doesn't seem to have aged at all, while others like Eliwood, Hector, and ''especially'' Zephiel look a ''lot'' older? Now look at the other two characters who don't appear to have aged: Sofiya and Fa. Notice anything? Yep, they're a half-dragon and full blooded dragon, respectively. Though that begs the question: if those two look so young yet are centuries old, [[Really700YearsOld just how old is Murdock??]]

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Of course, if you fudge the timeline a bit, that means Sacred Stones ''Sacred Stones'' takes place pretty close to the time of Awakening ''Awakening'' ([=FE13=]), if not a couple centuries earlier. Hm...
* Possibly Jossed by Awakening.''Awakening''. Valencia appears as Valm, and it looks very similar to how it did in [=FE2=]. However, there is nothing saying Sacred Stones ''Sacred Stones'' doesn't happen after Awakening, ''Awakening'', although Eirika and Ephraim are most likely not descendants of Alm.

[[WMG: Murdoch
Alm.
** The Xenologues show that Chrom learned of tales of Magvelian history, so ''Sacred Stones'' is almost certainly set long before ''Awakening'' (though likely on a different continent, with its chronological placement in relation to Jugdral/Akaneia unknown).

[[WMG:Murdoch
is [[HalfHumanHybrid half dragon]].half-dragon]].]]
Take a look at [[http://www.serenesforest.net/general/relation.html this]] page. It shows a comparison between characters' appearences appearances in Blazing Sword ''Blazing Sword'' and Sword ''Sword of Seals, Seals'', which takes place 20 years later. Notice how Murdoch doesn't seem to have aged at all, while others like Eliwood, Hector, and ''especially'' Zephiel look a ''lot'' older? Now look at the other two characters who don't appear to have aged: Sofiya and Fa. Notice anything? Yep, they're a half-dragon and full blooded dragon, respectively. Though that begs the question: if those two look so young yet are centuries old, [[Really700YearsOld [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld just how old is Murdock??]]



[[WMG: The Demon King Fomortiis made the disaster that would strike Grado appear far worse than it really would be.]]

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[[WMG: The [[WMG:The Demon King Fomortiis made the disaster that would strike Grado appear far worse than it really would be.]]



ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Since this will be the first time the history of Fire Emblem to involve ANY sort of science fiction elements, what better way to fit in with the tactical RPG gameplay of the series than by having the main kingdom being invaded by aliens from another planet and/or dimension? In this case, the aliens are using special interdimensional summoning technology to summon demons from the ShinMegamiTensei universe as their main foot soldiers. However, using this technology starts doing weird damage to the fabric of time and space, leading to all the main characters from both franchises coming together and eventually teaming up take down the singular threat.

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ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Since this will be the first time the history of Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' to involve ANY sort of science fiction elements, what better way to fit in with the tactical RPG gameplay of the series than by having the main kingdom being invaded by aliens from another planet and/or dimension? In this case, the aliens are using special interdimensional summoning technology to summon demons from the ShinMegamiTensei ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' universe as their main foot soldiers. However, using this technology starts doing weird damage to the fabric of time and space, leading to all the main characters from both franchises coming together and eventually teaming up take down the singular threat.



In Shadow Dragon, the only way to recruit Norne, Athena, Horace, Hetzel, and Ymir is to allow massive numbers of your own units to get killed. However, in New Mystery, all of the characters from Shadow Dragon are alive and well, and recognize Marth, including the ones whose recruitment depended on everyone else being dead. Therefore, the only way this could have happened is if Marth made it all the way to the endgame of Shadow Dragon, then had Elice use the Aum Staff to resurrect everyone who he had sent to their deaths so he could unlock the side-chapters. Where did he get all of those Aum Staffs? Simple: GameShark.

[[WMG: If Fire Emblem does a future crossover, it will be with Pokemon.]]

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In Shadow Dragon, ''Shadow Dragon'', the only way to recruit Norne, Athena, Horace, Hetzel, and Ymir is to allow massive numbers of your own units to get killed. However, in New Mystery, ''New Mystery'', all of the characters from Shadow Dragon are alive and well, and recognize Marth, including the ones whose recruitment depended on everyone else being dead. Therefore, the only way this could have happened is if Marth made it all the way to the endgame of Shadow Dragon, ''Shadow Dragon'', then had Elice use the Aum Staff to resurrect everyone who he had sent to their deaths so he could unlock the side-chapters. Where did he get all of those Aum Staffs? Simple: GameShark.

[[WMG: If Fire Emblem [[WMG:If ''Fire Emblem'' does a future crossover, it will be with Pokemon.''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''.]]



* Jossed, they crossed over with ShinMegamiTensei instead.

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* Jossed, they crossed over with ShinMegamiTensei ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' instead.



[[WMG: The upcoming crossover with ShinMegamiTensei will be a direct-but-distant sequel to Awakening]]
Specifically [[spoiler: the ending where Chrom seals Grima away instead of the Avatar killing him permanently.]] Ylisse undergoes a golden age for a thousand years, finally overcoming its MedievalStasis and entering something similar to the more modern [=MegaTen=] settings. But old legends do not die easily, and it would be interesting to see how a modern civilization without access to the legendary weapons deals with a newly-awakened Grima. Chrom and the Avatar could even return as Einherjar to explain exactly what happened in their time and help the current protagonists deal with Grima's return.

[[WMG: My Unit/Kris from [=FE12=] was canonically male.]]
In Awakening's Rogues and Redeemers 1 DLC, Katarina has a longer conversation with a male Avatar about Kris than with a female Avatar. The gender of Kris whenever Katarina refers to him/her in the DLC depends on the Avatar's gender (it's the same as the Avatar's gender). That, combined with the fact that the male My Unit appears on the boxart for [=FE12=], leads me to believe My Unit/Kris was canonically male.

[[WMG: Victor from Genealogy of the Holy War had lead poisoning.]]
It fits surprisingly well. [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Victor_(Genealogy_of_the_Holy_War) The man is the most sickly looking person in the game.]] He is very gaunt and unhealthy looking. The man's a noble and there's no reason he wouldn't have the best care possible, but if he was suffering from lead poisoning than doctors would try to treat it... with things like [[WorstAid blood letting and giving him lead based medicine]] (which is what happened to Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven). The lead based medicine would have worsen his condition. Lead poisoning causes emaciation (thinning out his body), the anger issues he had (anger at finding out that he got his maid preguant), and his mental instability and over-reactions (his suicide when his wife cheated on him). His appearance could a result of insomnia, lose of appetite, and maybe vomiting caused by lead poisoning. It could even cause constipation and diarrhea. The disease could explain his emotional problems which lead to his suicide. If true, it would make him look a little better personality wise.

[[WMG: The reason why Jugdral has no Fire Emblem.]]
Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Valentia's). This is because Jugdral (and Valentia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.

[[WMG: The dragon Forseti is Nils, many years after the events of Blazing Sword]]
Ninian kills 2 fire dragons and injures the surviving the one with a blast of icy wind in Blazing Sword. Nils is a bard, and being Ninian's brother, would have access to what Ninian used. Forseti is associated with raging winds, Prince Lewyn masqueraded as a bard for some time, and said prince later on was [[spoiler:Forseti in human form]]. After leaving through the Dragon's Gate, Nils went with Naga and the other dragons who traveled to Judgral, where he did a blood pact with one of the Crusaders and enchanted the book Forseti. Later on, Lewyn was given the Forseti tome from his mother and [[spoiler:after his death became Nils/Forseti]].

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[[WMG: The [[WMG:The upcoming crossover with ShinMegamiTensei ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' will be a direct-but-distant sequel to Awakening]]
''Awakening''.]]
Specifically [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the ending where Chrom seals Grima away instead of the Avatar killing him permanently.]] Ylisse undergoes a golden age for a thousand years, finally overcoming its MedievalStasis and entering something similar to the more modern [=MegaTen=] ''[=MegaTen=]'' settings. But old legends do not die easily, and it would be interesting to see how a modern civilization without access to the legendary weapons deals with a newly-awakened Grima. Chrom and the Avatar could even return as Einherjar to explain exactly what happened in their time and help the current protagonists deal with Grima's return.

[[WMG: My [[WMG:My Unit/Kris from [=FE12=] was canonically male.]]
In Awakening's ''Awakening''[='s=] Rogues and Redeemers 1 DLC, Katarina has a longer conversation with a male Avatar about Kris than with a female Avatar. The gender of Kris whenever Katarina refers to him/her in the DLC depends on the Avatar's gender (it's the same as the Avatar's gender). That, combined with the fact that the male My Unit appears on the boxart for [=FE12=], leads me to believe My Unit/Kris was canonically male.

[[WMG: Victor [[WMG:Victor from Genealogy ''Genealogy of the Holy War War'' had lead poisoning.]]
It fits surprisingly well. [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Victor_(Genealogy_of_the_Holy_War) The man is the most sickly looking person in the game.]] He is very gaunt and unhealthy looking. The man's a noble and there's no reason he wouldn't have the best care possible, but if he was suffering from lead poisoning than doctors would try to treat it... with things like [[WorstAid blood letting and giving him lead based medicine]] (which is what happened to Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven). The lead based medicine would have worsen his condition. Lead poisoning causes emaciation (thinning out his body), the anger issues he had (anger at finding out that he got his maid preguant), pregant), and his mental instability and over-reactions (his suicide when his wife cheated on him). His appearance could a result of insomnia, lose of appetite, and maybe vomiting caused by lead poisoning. It could even cause constipation and diarrhea. The disease could explain his emotional problems which lead to his suicide. If true, it would make him look a little better personality wise.

[[WMG: The [[WMG:The reason why Jugdral has no Fire Emblem.]]
Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Valentia's). This is because Jugdral (and Valentia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.

[[WMG: The [[WMG:The dragon Forseti is Nils, many years after the events of Blazing Sword]]
''Blazing Sword'']]
Ninian kills 2 fire dragons and injures the surviving the one with a blast of icy wind in Blazing Sword.''Blazing Sword''. Nils is a bard, and being Ninian's brother, would have access to what Ninian used. Forseti is associated with raging winds, Prince Lewyn masqueraded as a bard for some time, and said prince later on was [[spoiler:Forseti in human form]]. After leaving through the Dragon's Gate, Nils went with Naga and the other dragons who traveled to Judgral, where he did a blood pact with one of the Crusaders and enchanted the book Forseti. Later on, Lewyn was given the Forseti tome from his mother and [[spoiler:after his death became Nils/Forseti]].Nils/Forseti]].

[[WMG:After the ''[=MegaTen=]'' crossover, we'll get one with ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''.]]
After all, Link in more recent games is essentially Donnel if he were a Lord and lacked the low stat caps. A lot of the other characters match up to your typical ''FE'' classes quite well, too (Zelda = Princess/Sage, Sheik and ''[=OoT=]''!Impa = Assassin, Twinrova and Veran = Sorceress, Nayru = Bard [[note]]a male class, yes, but Troubadours (or should that be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trobairitz Trobairitz?]]) are healers, and Din's time magic seems like it'd be more along the lines of Special Dance and Galdrar, never mind that she's a harp player[[/note]], Din = Dancer, Onox = General, Vaati = Dark Mage/Sorcerer, etc.).
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[[WMG: The various promotion seals are made of a material similar to the evolutionary stones in ''Pokemon''.]]
Much like in Fire Emblem, evolving a pokemon early with a stone makes them powerful early on but with serious drawbacks.
Also, the Elysian Whip has the ability to evolve a pegasus into a wyvern.
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** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood, and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Archaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul -- not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.
*** Except Jahn didn't feed Zephiel any story. Zephiel knew most of this himself. Jahn even admits that through his research, Zephiel knew some things that he didn't. Also, the story explictly states that they needed a Demon Dragon to make War Dragons. And if Jahn is a War Dragon, how can he think? How can he talk? The one named War Dragon we see is Ain, who can only say simple thoughts like "burn" or "die" and doesn't really show any signs of real intellegence at all. I feel that trying to argue that Jahn is a War Dragon that they made able to "think" based on a separate set of beings is really reaching. And Idenn was treated as the War Dragons' "commander" anyway. As for why the Fire Dragon in FE7 is stronger than the other pure blood Fire Dragon, I'd just say GameplayStorySegregation. However, also note that Roy and his army were packing all of the Divine Weapons plus the Sword of Seals which surpassed them, while Eliwood and pals had 4.
**** Jahn heard about the Heroes' battle against Idoun from Zephiel, but the rest was based on his own experience. 2: "Idoun was still young, but she had no problems in fulfulling our purposes, except for one... Her heart was not with us. She would not follow our commands. … We destroyed her soul to make her follow our every command." This implies Divine Dragons can create War Dragons, but Idoun refused to do so for the purpose of fighting humans. 3: For the purposes of this WMG, you might as well ask how Sonia can think and hold conversation, and Denning can't. This theory relies on Morphs and War Dragons being created in the same way. There's no basis for it in canon, true, which is why it's called Wild Mass Guessing and not Perfectly Reasonable Guessing. But there's no hard evidence against it, either. 4: "The Dark Dragon is an 'object' meant to bring hope to us Dragons again. It is no leader." 5: Jahn can be OHKO'd by a single Divine Weapon, which you can't say for the Fire Dragon. But GameplayStorySegregation is the most likely reason why FD > Jahn.

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** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood, and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Archaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's [=FE3=]'s backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul -- not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.
*** Except Jahn didn't feed Zephiel any story. Zephiel knew most of this himself. Jahn even admits that through his research, Zephiel knew some things that he didn't. Also, the story explictly states that they needed a Demon Dragon to make War Dragons. And if Jahn is a War Dragon, how can he think? How can he talk? The one named War Dragon we see is Ain, who can only say simple thoughts like "burn" or "die" and doesn't really show any signs of real intellegence at all. I feel that trying to argue that Jahn is a War Dragon that they made able to "think" based on a separate set of beings is really reaching. And Idenn was treated as the War Dragons' "commander" anyway. As for why the Fire Dragon in FE7 [=FE7=] is stronger than the other pure blood Fire Dragon, I'd just say GameplayStorySegregation. However, also note that Roy and his army were packing all of the Divine Weapons plus the Sword of Seals which surpassed them, while Eliwood and pals had 4.
**** Jahn heard about the Heroes' battle against Idoun from Zephiel, but the rest was based on his own experience. 2: "Idoun was still young, but she had no problems in fulfulling our purposes, except for one... Her heart was not with us. She would not follow our commands. … We destroyed her soul to make her follow our every command." This implies that Divine Dragons can create War Dragons, but Idoun refused to do so for the purpose of fighting humans. 3: For the purposes of this WMG, you might as well ask how Sonia can think and hold conversation, and Denning can't. This theory relies on Morphs and War Dragons being created in the same way. There's no basis for it in canon, true, which is why it's called Wild Mass Guessing and not Perfectly Reasonable Guessing. But there's no hard evidence against it, either. 4: "The Dark Dragon is an 'object' meant to bring hope to us Dragons again. It is no leader." 5: Jahn can be OHKO'd by a single Divine Weapon, which you can't say for the Fire Dragon. But GameplayStorySegregation is the most likely reason why FD > Jahn.



[[WMG: FE 13 will start a player created lord]]

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[[WMG: FE 13 [=FE13=] will start star a player created lord]]



** Half-Jossed, half-confirmed. From what we know so far, Krom seems to be the obvious Lord of FE13, but the My Unit system will return, and it's hinted MU will have more connection to the story this time round.

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** Half-Jossed, half-confirmed. From what we know so far, Krom seems to be the obvious Lord of FE13, [=FE13=], but the My Unit system will return, and it's hinted MU will have more connection to the story this time round.



Confirmed in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, the Laguz and Beorc evolved from scaly creatures into things which [[GeneticEngineering looked a lot more like their]] [[VainSorceress "goddess"]]. Why stop there? Who is to say we are looking at are humans in any of these games? 1: no game is on Earth, 2: stra,nge phenotypes are always common, and 3: silver hurts them more than iron and steel. Silver is not particularly dangerous to humans as far as metals go but many monsters hate silver.

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Confirmed in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, the Laguz and Beorc evolved from scaly creatures into things which [[GeneticEngineering looked a lot more like their]] [[VainSorceress "goddess"]]. Why stop there? Who is to say we are looking at are humans in any of these games? 1: no game is on Earth, 2: stra,nge strange phenotypes are always common, and 3: silver hurts them more than iron and steel. Silver is not particularly dangerous to humans as far as metals go go, but many monsters hate silver.
* That stems from people once believing that silver was actually HardLight.




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* Except that Holsety pretty much part of himself in the tome bearing his name. We don't know if the same is true of the Yewfelle[=/=]Ichival.



Given that technology is advancing on Tellius, this shows the planet is not in MedievalStasis and thus cannot be the same place as Marth's games. While not evil, Aimee's shown to have questionable ethics, charging you full price for her wares when even when the world is about to end. Aimee also doesn't hide her intentions to take Ike and his resistance would have failed if not for Soren's interference. Eventually, Aimee anticipated and got around Soren's meddling. They are on another planet or in another timeline now and left no trace, everyone else can only assume they fell over board on a fishing trip or something.

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Given that technology is advancing on Tellius, this shows the planet is not in MedievalStasis and thus cannot be the same place as Marth's games. While not evil, Aimee's shown to have questionable ethics, charging you full price for her wares when even when the world is about to end. Aimee also doesn't hide her intentions to take Ike Ike, and his resistance would have failed if not for Soren's interference. Eventually, Aimee anticipated and got around Soren's meddling. They are on another planet or in another timeline now and left no trace, everyone else can only assume they fell over board overboard on a fishing trip or something.



[[WMG: The events in FEJugdral pass in Serial Experiments Lain.]]

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[[WMG: The events in FEJugdral FE Jugdral pass in Serial Experiments Lain.]]



* Possibly Jossed by Awakening. Valencia appears as Valm, and it looks very similar to how it did in FE2. However, there is nothing saying Sacred Stones doesn't happen after Awakening, although Eirika and Ephraim are most likely not descendants of Alm.

[[WMG: Murdoch is [[HalfHumanHybrid half dragon]]]]
Take a look at [[http://www.serenesforest.net/general/relation.html this]] page. It shows a comparison between characters' appearences in Blazing Sword and Sword of Seals, which takes place 20 years later. Notice how Murdoch doesn't seem to have aged at all, while others like Eliwood, Hector and ''especially'' Zephiel look a ''lot'' older? Now look at the other two characters who don't appear to have aged: Sofiya and Fa. Notice anything? Yep, they're a half-dragon and full blooded dragon, respectively. Though that begs the question: if those two look so young yet are centuries old, [[Really700YearsOld just how old is Murdock??]]

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* Possibly Jossed by Awakening. Valencia appears as Valm, and it looks very similar to how it did in FE2.[=FE2=]. However, there is nothing saying Sacred Stones doesn't happen after Awakening, although Eirika and Ephraim are most likely not descendants of Alm.

[[WMG: Murdoch is [[HalfHumanHybrid half dragon]]]]
dragon]].]]
Take a look at [[http://www.serenesforest.net/general/relation.html this]] page. It shows a comparison between characters' appearences in Blazing Sword and Sword of Seals, which takes place 20 years later. Notice how Murdoch doesn't seem to have aged at all, while others like Eliwood, Hector Hector, and ''especially'' Zephiel look a ''lot'' older? Now look at the other two characters who don't appear to have aged: Sofiya and Fa. Notice anything? Yep, they're a half-dragon and full blooded dragon, respectively. Though that begs the question: if those two look so young yet are centuries old, [[Really700YearsOld just how old is Murdock??]]



[[[WMG: The Demon King Fomortiis made the disaster that would strike Grado appear far worse than it really would be.]]

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[[[WMG: [[WMG: The Demon King Fomortiis made the disaster that would strike Grado appear far worse than it really would be.]]



Suppose Fomortiis, from within the Sacred Stone, manipulated the image the mages of Grado saw so that they saw the disaster as far worse than it would be. Knoll said that great events can send ripples through history. It's possible that some sort of temporal forced perspective happened, making the landslide seem to happen farther into the future, but much worse than it would be (A smaller but closer disturbance causing just as big ripples as larger, but more distant, disasters.) Thus, Fomortiis had his hand in the corruption of Lyon and the entire war even before Lyon began to bargain with him. [[TheChessmaster He made the disaster seem far worse]] in order to tempt Lyon into utilizing the dark powers within the stone, and thus facilitate his return.

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Suppose Fomortiis, from within the Sacred Stone, manipulated the image the mages of Grado saw so that they saw the disaster as far worse than it would be. Knoll said that great events can send ripples through history. It's possible that some sort of temporal forced perspective happened, making the landslide seem to happen farther into the future, but much worse than it would be (A smaller but closer disturbance causing just as big ripples as larger, but more distant, disasters.) disasters). Thus, Fomortiis had his hand in the corruption of Lyon and the entire war even before Lyon began to bargain with him. [[TheChessmaster He made the disaster seem far worse]] in order to tempt Lyon into utilizing the dark powers within the stone, and thus facilitate his return.



*** Complete with Medeus as the BigBad yet again; his type, of course, will be Ground/Dragon.

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*** Complete with If this happens, I predict that Medeus as will be the BigBad yet again; his type, of course, will be Ground/Dragon.



[[WMG: My Unit/Kris from FE 12 was canonically male.]]
In Awakening's Rogues and Redeemers 1 DLC, Katarina has a longer conversation with a male Avatar about Kris than with a female Avatar. The gender of Kris whenever Katarina refers to him/her in the DLC depends on the Avatar's gender (it's the same as the Avatar's gender). That, combined with the fact that the male My Unit appears on the boxart for FE 12, leads me to believe My Unit/Kris was canonically male.

[[WMG: Victor from Genealogy the Holy War has lead poisoning.]]

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[[WMG: My Unit/Kris from FE 12 [=FE12=] was canonically male.]]
In Awakening's Rogues and Redeemers 1 DLC, Katarina has a longer conversation with a male Avatar about Kris than with a female Avatar. The gender of Kris whenever Katarina refers to him/her in the DLC depends on the Avatar's gender (it's the same as the Avatar's gender). That, combined with the fact that the male My Unit appears on the boxart for FE 12, [=FE12=], leads me to believe My Unit/Kris was canonically male.

[[WMG: Victor from Genealogy of the Holy War has had lead poisoning.]]



Ninian kills 2 fire dragons and injures the surviving the one with a blast of icy wind in Blazing Sword. Nils is a bard, and being Ninian's brother would have access to what Ninian used. Forseti is associated with raging winds, Prince Lewyn masqueraded as a bard for some time, and said prince later on was [[spoiler: Forseti in human form]]. After leaving through the Dragon's Gate, Nils went with Naga and the other dragons who traveled to Judgral, where he did a blood pact with one of the Crusaders and enchanted the book Forseti. Later on, Lewyn was given the Forseti tome from his mother and after [[spoiler: his death became Nils/Forseti]].

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Ninian kills 2 fire dragons and injures the surviving the one with a blast of icy wind in Blazing Sword. Nils is a bard, and being Ninian's brother brother, would have access to what Ninian used. Forseti is associated with raging winds, Prince Lewyn masqueraded as a bard for some time, and said prince later on was [[spoiler: Forseti [[spoiler:Forseti in human form]]. After leaving through the Dragon's Gate, Nils went with Naga and the other dragons who traveled to Judgral, where he did a blood pact with one of the Crusaders and enchanted the book Forseti. Later on, Lewyn was given the Forseti tome from his mother and after [[spoiler: [[spoiler:after his death became Nils/Forseti]].
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*** Complete with Medeus as the BigBad yet again; his type, of course, will be Ground/Dragon.
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*** Wouldn't this be sorta deemed false now in light of [=FE12=] ,since he shows up alive and well during the tutorial areas as well as joining up during the main game?

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*** Wouldn't this be sorta deemed false now in light of [=FE12=] ,since [=FE12=], since he shows up alive and well during the tutorial areas as well as joining up during the main game?
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[[WMG: Alternately, Brammimond was an [[Main/PlayerCharacter Avatar-like character]], same as Mark, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Chris]], and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]]. ]]

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[[WMG: Alternately, Brammimond was an [[Main/PlayerCharacter Avatar-like character]], same as Mark, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Chris]], Kris]], and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]]. ]]
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[[WMG: Alternately, Brammimond was an [[Main/PlayerCharacter Avatar-like character]], same as Mark, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Chris]], and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]]. ]]
Which would explain the ambiguity around his/her gender, appearance, and identity. If Nintendo ever made a game about the Scouring, Brammimond would be a perfect role for the player to assume.
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Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Valentia's). This is because Jugdral (and Valentia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.

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Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Valentia's). This is because Jugdral (and Valentia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.exists.

[[WMG: The dragon Forseti is Nils, many years after the events of Blazing Sword]]
Ninian kills 2 fire dragons and injures the surviving the one with a blast of icy wind in Blazing Sword. Nils is a bard, and being Ninian's brother would have access to what Ninian used. Forseti is associated with raging winds, Prince Lewyn masqueraded as a bard for some time, and said prince later on was [[spoiler: Forseti in human form]]. After leaving through the Dragon's Gate, Nils went with Naga and the other dragons who traveled to Judgral, where he did a blood pact with one of the Crusaders and enchanted the book Forseti. Later on, Lewyn was given the Forseti tome from his mother and after [[spoiler: his death became Nils/Forseti]].
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[[WMG:Lalum is Oujay's sister.]]
In his support conversation with Wendy, Oujay mentions that he had a sister but, because of how poor his village was, female children were usually left in far-off lands to be adopted by people who can give them a better life. Lalum is adopted. This is Fire Emblem, where there are no coincidences; any character mentioned offhand will somehow become important to the plot. (Note that every last character mentioned in a support conversation in ''Blazing Blade'' that does not appear in that game ''does'' appear in ''Sealed Sword'' -- Geitz's brother, Canas's mother and son, Hawkeye's daughter, etc.) Note, also, that this is a franchise with a history of adding a bunch of unexpected familial relations between its characters (most notable in ''Radiant Dawn'', but also the whole Nino/Canas thing in ''Blazing Blade''). It would be a unique occurrence if something like this was mentioned and it ''didn't'' refer to someone else in the game. Also, in the Lalum/Oujay conversation, Oujay seems pretty uncomfortable with Lalum's flirtatious advances and is specifically trying ''not'' to stare. There isn't much that can explain why he would be uncomfortable, but it's possible that something in his subconscious is telling him that starting a relationship with this girl [[BrotherSisterIncest would be a bad idea.]]

* I propose that Lilina's his sister. I mean, Oujay mentions it with his support with her (too?), and they look alike. On the other hand, Lilina's mother is mysteriously missing. None of Hector's endings even hint at a "canon" one, and if anything, Lyn's his love interest, despite it being a doomed romance. (She wanted to go back to Sacae, Hector had to run Ostia.) Maybe Hector just adopted.
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In his support conversation with Wendy, Oujay mentions that he had a sister but, because of how poor his village was, female children were usually left in far-off lands to be adopted by people who can give them a better life. Lalum is adopted. This is FireEmblem, where there are no coincidences; any character mentioned offhand will somehow become important to the plot. (Note that every last character mentioned in a support conversation in ''Blazing Blade'' that does not appear in that game ''does'' appear in ''Sealed Sword'' -- Geitz's brother, Canas's mother and son, Hawkeye's daughter, etc.) Note, also, that this is a franchise with a history of adding a bunch of unexpected familial relations between its characters (most notable in ''Radiant Dawn'', but also the whole Nino/Canas thing in ''Blazing Blade''). It would be a unique occurrence if something like this was mentioned and it ''didn't'' refer to someone else in the game. Also, in the Lalum/Oujay conversation, Oujay seems pretty uncomfortable with Lalum's flirtatious advances and is specifically trying ''not'' to stare. There isn't much that can explain why he would be uncomfortable, but it's possible that something in his subconscious is telling him that starting a relationship with this girl [[BrotherSisterIncest would be a bad idea.]]

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In his support conversation with Wendy, Oujay mentions that he had a sister but, because of how poor his village was, female children were usually left in far-off lands to be adopted by people who can give them a better life. Lalum is adopted. This is FireEmblem, Fire Emblem, where there are no coincidences; any character mentioned offhand will somehow become important to the plot. (Note that every last character mentioned in a support conversation in ''Blazing Blade'' that does not appear in that game ''does'' appear in ''Sealed Sword'' -- Geitz's brother, Canas's mother and son, Hawkeye's daughter, etc.) Note, also, that this is a franchise with a history of adding a bunch of unexpected familial relations between its characters (most notable in ''Radiant Dawn'', but also the whole Nino/Canas thing in ''Blazing Blade''). It would be a unique occurrence if something like this was mentioned and it ''didn't'' refer to someone else in the game. Also, in the Lalum/Oujay conversation, Oujay seems pretty uncomfortable with Lalum's flirtatious advances and is specifically trying ''not'' to stare. There isn't much that can explain why he would be uncomfortable, but it's possible that something in his subconscious is telling him that starting a relationship with this girl [[BrotherSisterIncest would be a bad idea.]]



Additionally, the games all take place in the same order they were published, with the exception of FireEmblem 6/7. The Dragon Laguz from Tellius are the deteriorated descendants of the Dragons of [=FE7/6.=] About half the size, as well.

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Additionally, the games all take place in the same order they were published, with the exception of FireEmblem Fire Emblem 6/7. The Dragon Laguz from Tellius are the deteriorated descendants of the Dragons of [=FE7/6.=] About half the size, as well.



ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Since this will be the first time the history of FireEmblem to involve ANY sort of science fiction elements, what better way to fit in with the tactical RPG gameplay of the series than by having the main kingdom being invaded by aliens from another planet and/or dimension? In this case, the aliens are using special interdimensional summoning technology to summon demons from the ShinMegamiTensei universe as their main foot soldiers. However, using this technology starts doing weird damage to the fabric of time and space, leading to all the main characters from both franchises coming together and eventually teaming up take down the singular threat.

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ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Since this will be the first time the history of FireEmblem Fire Emblem to involve ANY sort of science fiction elements, what better way to fit in with the tactical RPG gameplay of the series than by having the main kingdom being invaded by aliens from another planet and/or dimension? In this case, the aliens are using special interdimensional summoning technology to summon demons from the ShinMegamiTensei universe as their main foot soldiers. However, using this technology starts doing weird damage to the fabric of time and space, leading to all the main characters from both franchises coming together and eventually teaming up take down the singular threat.



Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Valentia's). This is because Jugdral (and Valentia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.

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Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[FireEmblemElibe [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[FireEmblemTheSacredStones [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[FireEmblemTellius [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[FireEmblemJugdral [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Valentia's). This is because Jugdral (and Valentia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.
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Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Barensia's). This is because Jugdral (and Barensia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.

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Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Barensia's). Valentia's). This is because Jugdral (and Barensia) Valentia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.
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It fits surprisingly well. [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Victor_(Genealogy_of_the_Holy_War) The man is the most sickly looking person in the game.]] He is very gaunt and unhealthy looking. The man's a noble and there's no reason he wouldn't have the best care possible, but if he was suffering from lead poisoning than doctors would try to treat it... with things like [[WorstAid blood letting and giving him lead based medicine]] (which is what happened to Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven). The lead based medicine would have worsen his condition. Lead poisoning causes emaciation (thinning out his body), the anger issues he had (anger at finding out that he got his maid preguant), and his mental instability and over-reactions (his suicide when his wife cheated on him). His appearance could a result of insomnia, lose of appetite, and maybe vomiting caused by lead poisoning. It could even cause constipation and diarrhea. The disease could explain his emotional problems which lead to his suicide. If true, it would make him look a little better personality wise.

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It fits surprisingly well. [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Victor_(Genealogy_of_the_Holy_War) The man is the most sickly looking person in the game.]] He is very gaunt and unhealthy looking. The man's a noble and there's no reason he wouldn't have the best care possible, but if he was suffering from lead poisoning than doctors would try to treat it... with things like [[WorstAid blood letting and giving him lead based medicine]] (which is what happened to Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven). The lead based medicine would have worsen his condition. Lead poisoning causes emaciation (thinning out his body), the anger issues he had (anger at finding out that he got his maid preguant), and his mental instability and over-reactions (his suicide when his wife cheated on him). His appearance could a result of insomnia, lose of appetite, and maybe vomiting caused by lead poisoning. It could even cause constipation and diarrhea. The disease could explain his emotional problems which lead to his suicide. If true, it would make him look a little better personality wise.wise.

[[WMG: The reason why Jugdral has no Fire Emblem.]]
Every continent has their own version of the Fire Emblem. [[FireEmblemElibe Elibe's is Bern's Sacred Treasure]], [[FireEmblemTheSacredStones Magvel's is Grado's Sacred Stone]], [[FireEmblemTellius Tellius' is Lehran's Medallion]],and [[FireEmblemAkaneia Akaneia's is the Shield of Seals]], yet [[FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral's]] is conspicuously missing, aside from a throwaway line ''IF'' Azel is paired with certain characters. (For that matter, so is Barensia's). This is because Jugdral (and Barensia) take place in the same world as Akaneia, where the Fire Emblem already exists.
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In Awakening's Rogues and Redeemers 1 DLC, Katarina has a longer conversation with a male Avatar about Kris than with a female Avatar. The gender of Kris whenever Katarina refers to him/her in the DLC depends on the Avatar's gender (it's the same as the Avatar's gender). That, combined with the fact that the male My Unit appears on the boxart for FE 12, leads me to believe My Unit/Kris was canonically male.

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In Awakening's Rogues and Redeemers 1 DLC, Katarina has a longer conversation with a male Avatar about Kris than with a female Avatar. The gender of Kris whenever Katarina refers to him/her in the DLC depends on the Avatar's gender (it's the same as the Avatar's gender). That, combined with the fact that the male My Unit appears on the boxart for FE 12, leads me to believe My Unit/Kris was canonically male.male.

[[WMG: Victor from Genealogy the Holy War has lead poisoning.]]
It fits surprisingly well. [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Victor_(Genealogy_of_the_Holy_War) The man is the most sickly looking person in the game.]] He is very gaunt and unhealthy looking. The man's a noble and there's no reason he wouldn't have the best care possible, but if he was suffering from lead poisoning than doctors would try to treat it... with things like [[WorstAid blood letting and giving him lead based medicine]] (which is what happened to Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven). The lead based medicine would have worsen his condition. Lead poisoning causes emaciation (thinning out his body), the anger issues he had (anger at finding out that he got his maid preguant), and his mental instability and over-reactions (his suicide when his wife cheated on him). His appearance could a result of insomnia, lose of appetite, and maybe vomiting caused by lead poisoning. It could even cause constipation and diarrhea. The disease could explain his emotional problems which lead to his suicide. If true, it would make him look a little better personality wise.
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separating Elibe from this page. If I miss any, free free to transfer them as I have only played 7 and not 6. Grand Unifying Guesses (that involve the four supposedly separate verses) can stay on this page


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[[WMG: Roy was named after Roland.]]
Or possibly, "Roy" is a nickname and "Roland" is his full name, kind of like "Lyn" was a nickname for "Lyndis."



[[WMG: [=FE6=] Karel is actually Guy from [=FE7=]]]
It would explain why they're both called the "Saint of Swords" in their [=FE7=] endings and why Karel's personality is so different between games. Karel and Guy probably fought each other sometime after [=FE7=], and if Guy won that fight, he might've taken his old master's name as a show of respect.
** But why would Guy consider Karla, Bartre, and Fir family?
** Alternate theory: Karel killed Guy, thus the Saint of Swords title was transferred to him, and the shock was enough to knock the [[BloodKnight crazy]] out of him.
*** Alternate theory extension: Guy asked Karel to kill him after leaving Priscilla.



[[WMG:The dead friend Renault wanted to bring back is Kishuna.]]
Renault's battle conversation with Nergal in Hector's story suggests that Nergal was still experimenting with morphs when Renault came to him, and Kishuna was Nergal's first morph. Renault also refers to what Nergal gave him as "soulless" and "an empty vessel". Unlike most of Nergal's morphs, Kishuna isn't even capable of speech, which could lend to him giving off this impression. [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything It would be interesting to see if anything unusual would happen if Renault were to be hacked to be able to attack Kishuna in Chapter 32x...]]
* That actually seems to be shot down in the game; Kishuna is specifically referred to as the "only morph he made with emotions", implying that Kishuna is not his first morph. Also, while Renaul'st friend is likely the first morph, part of the reason Renault was turned away from it was because it was an emotionless shell of his old friend.
** What if Kishuna was a SuperPrototype, and all the morphs made ''after'' were emotionless?
** Besides, although we see that Kishuna has emotions, he never, ever speaks. Him not speaking was why Nergal cast him aside, believing him to be a failed test. That not speaking would have Renault think that Kishuna was emotionless as well, also rejecting him. So for me at least this feels like Kishuna had emotions, [[AndIMustScream but could not express them for some reason]].
* I did it via a purge tome and a bunch of energy rings (for range). He didn't say anything. Though it could just be the devs not thinking of this possibility. Given that this is FE, I'd still say Kishuna is the friend Renault tried to revive.



[[WMG: The world behind the Dragon's Gate in [=FE7=] is in fact Archaneia, the continent of [=FE1=]/3/11.]]
The Dragon's Gate is on the same spot as the Ice Dragon Temple in [=FE3=]. Nils and Ninian also mention how men and dragons live there together, which applies to Archaneia as well.
* Nils and Ninian refer to a Dragon Shrine, not explicitly the Ice Dragon Temple. However, the Ruins of Time area in Awakening is certainly draconic in nature, due to the presence of Naga's Tears, and presumably there is some unexplored suspicious property about it due to the appearance of the time-lost and partially amnesiac Morgan. It seems more likely that the other side of the Dragon's Gate is what eventually becomes known as the Ruins of Time instead of the Ice Dragon Temple, which when explored in [=FE3=] shows no indication that it was ever the other end of a dimensional portal.



[[WMG:Wendy's parents are Oswin and Serra]]
There are no female A-knights in 7, and they're rare in the setting in general, so if it's in Wendy's blood at all, it must be from her father's side. Wendy has crappy DEF and STR for an A-knight (even taking starting at level 1 into account). Of course, you could argue that's just due to being a girl, but it wouldn't make sense for her mom to be someone like, say, Vaida. It's clear she's uncomfortable with the role and that would make sense if her parents were radically different. Finally, she has pink hair, which is unusual even for Fire Emblem. Now, what canon pairing involves a male A-knight and a non-combat-type female with pink hair? Bingo.



[[WMG: Lowen is the cook/meal delivery man in FE 6.]]
We know Lowen as the eager-to-please Pheraen cavalier in [=FE7=], in which he spent an entire set of supports lecturing Eliwood on the importance of proper nutrition, as well as revealed that he had been cooking for the army surreptitiously. In FE 6, Lugh mentions in his supports with Chad and Ray that the man who delivered meals to them in the field has given him extra baked tarts. Klein also mentions, in his A support with Percival, the cook's concern that Percival doesn't like his meals because he eats them without expression. Neither of these men is given a name, but they both seem to share the same concern over making sure everyone in the army gets enough to eat and, what's more, that their food actually meets their preferences and tastes good (which, from what I've gathered, is unheard of in any military). It's likely that at least one of these guys is actually Lowen returning to (half of) his previous role, if the two unnamed caterers aren't, in fact, the same person.



[[WMG: The [[http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Juna_Fruit Juna Fruit]] isn't actually exclusive to Magvel.]]
In ''[[FireEmblemElibe Sword of Seals]]'', the character Gonzales can be found at level 12 on one route, and level 5 on the other, but his stats are the same regardless. This is consistent with the effects of Juna Fruit. Note that to drop 7 levels, Gonzales would need to have eaten at least two Juna Fruits, as there is a 5-level maximum per fruit. How he managed to get two of what is obviously a very rare delicacy in Elibe is anyone's guess, though the most likely scenario involves the corrupt nobles who push him around, seeing him only as a weapon and therefore thinking only to make him stronger.









[[WMG: Limstella was modeled after Nergal's wife.]]

Before the chapter in which you fight her, Nergal comments on how Limstella was the most powerful of his morphs. However, Limstella is a very plain woman. Other than the black hair and yellow eyes that all morphs come with, she doesn't exactly stand out. Not exactly imposing enough for someone to choose for their champion. This could be a case of BoringButPractical, but considering that [[spoiler:Nergal lost his sanity to the dark powers trying to bring his wife back from the dead,]] it wouldn't be a far stretch to believe that when making his most powerful morph, that some lingering presence of her in his mind influenced his design.
** She would look a lot like [[spoiler:Ninian]] if her hair and eye color were to be changed appropriately.



[[WMG: Harken is the mystery villager]]
In one village in [[FireEmblemElibe FE7]], a man who doesnt reveal himself claims that he dresses in the garb of the Black Fang, but is an ally and a loyal citizen of Lycia. All these apply to Harken who suicidally infiltrated the Black Fang to kill as many members as he can as revenge for Elbert.
* This ''could'' be confirmed -- it's not shown on screen, but ROM-probing shows that [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything the game does load Harken's portrait data]] for that sequence in addition to that of whichever unit is visiting the village.



[[WMG:Sword of Seals's Gale is the son of Blazing Sword's Heath]]
This might seem like a long shot, but hear me out. In Heath's nonpaired ending, he relocates to Ilia and continues fighting as a mercenary. In Sword of Seals, the reason Gale is originally denied the position of Dragon General is because he isn't a native of Bern (despite being one of Bern's "trademark" Wyvern Lords). In other words, my theory is that Gale was born in Ilia as Heath's son, and became a wyvern rider like his father, and eventually traveled to Bern and became a Knight.



[[WMG: The Tactician from [=FE7=] is Harry Paget {{Flashman}}.]]
Think about it: he does very little actual fighting or real work, letting Lyn handle the bandits in Lyn's Tale. Despite that, he manages to come off as quite the hero, and all the records place him as indispensable to Nergal's defeat, and who knows? Maybe he really was, in [[BeenThereShapedHistory the typical Flashman way.]] And if all the tactician-fics are any indication, he does a lot of unwarranted bragging, especially when it comes to nailing the chicks. All we need now is for some clever bastard to blackmail him into joining Eliwood's little warband, and it all fits together.



[[WMG: The Tactician from [[FireEmblemElibe FE7]] is one of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} lost Primarchs]]]]
He was a ridiculously gifted tactician as shown by how he led a rag-tag army multiple times against superior numbers to victory with zero/minimal loss. The Emperor heard news of an army that continued to break the odds led by a mysterious tactician and he understood that he had found one of the primarchs. After Eliwood's coronation, the Tactician had to immediately leave for a reason that was never specified. The reason was that he was approached by the Emperor shortly after the defeat of Nergal and he agreed to take command of a Space Marine legion. It was mentioned that he disappeared after the events of the game and all attempts to locate him were futile. This is because the Tactician was not in Elibe (or the planet it was on for that matter), he was in another part of the galaxy fighting in the Great Crusade.

[[WMG: Gale from [=FE6=] was supposed to be recruitable]]
Let's list some facts:
* He was shown to be at the very least a NobleDemon and he was not a boss, which is usually a hint that said unit is recruitable (Douglas is a notable exception, though he joined the next chapter if he was still alive by the end of the chapter).
* In the game, we could get prepromote units of almost every class. Dragon Lords are one of the exceptions, the reason is that Gale was supposed to be the Dragon Lord prepromote unit.
* He and his units don't attack you sometimes. Of course, this could be chalked up to programming mistakes, but it might also be because he was meant to be a recruitable unit.
* Some recruitable characters appear as an enemy with his/her own unit, and when he/she was recruited, the unit would become green (Percival, Klein, Tate). Gale appeared as a reinforcement with accompanying units, presumably the game designers might have intended Gale to be similar.
From all these factors, we can reasonably assume that the game designers originally intend Gale to be a recruitable unit but for whatever reason they decided to make him a mini-boss. If the game was to be remade, [[SparedByTheAdaptation he might even be recruitable in the remake]].



[[WMG: Eliwood's stats are usually bad because he's carrying the Tactician into battle.]]
He really IS a good warrior, but his stats are lame compared to Hector's because he has a permanent rescue penalty.

[[WMG: Erk is Niime's grandson and Hugh's cousin.]]
That purple hair. He's a little too old to be Canas's kid, but Canas notes having several brothers, at least one of whom was probably older. But all those brothers ended up soulless husks due to Dark/Elder magic, and given Niime's special child raising practices, it's not too strange to imagine she might have shipped him off to study under Pent.
* For bonus crossover points, Lute from Sacred Stones is actually related to this family too.



[[WMG: A grown-up Nils will appear in future Awakening DLC]]
[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe The last time we saw him,]] he was headed through the Dragon's Gate to a world where humans and dragons co-existed, which many have speculated to be Archanea. Having Nils around as a regular character in ''Awakening'' (as opposed to an Einherjar) would be a cool way to follow up on that and give us another view of Elibe's backstory the same way Tiki did for Archanea. Also, two words: Ice Manakete.
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* Possibly Jossed by Awakening. Valencia appears as Valm, and it looks very similar to how it did in FE2. However, there is nothing saying Sacred Stones doesn't happen after Awakening, although Eirika and Ephraim are most likely not descendants of Alm.
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Specifically [[spoiler: the ending where Chrom seals Grima away instead of the Avatar killing him permanently.]] Ylisse undergoes a golden age for a thousand years, finally overcoming its MedievalStasis and entering something similar to the more modern [=MegaTen=] settings. But old legends do not die easily, and it would be interesting to see how a modern civilization without access to the legendary weapons deals with a newly-awakened Grima. Chrom and the Avatar could even return as Einherjar to explain exactly what happened in their time and help the current protagonists deal with Grima's return.

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Specifically [[spoiler: the ending where Chrom seals Grima away instead of the Avatar killing him permanently.]] Ylisse undergoes a golden age for a thousand years, finally overcoming its MedievalStasis and entering something similar to the more modern [=MegaTen=] settings. But old legends do not die easily, and it would be interesting to see how a modern civilization without access to the legendary weapons deals with a newly-awakened Grima. Chrom and the Avatar could even return as Einherjar to explain exactly what happened in their time and help the current protagonists deal with Grima's return.return.

[[WMG: My Unit/Kris from FE 12 was canonically male.]]
In Awakening's Rogues and Redeemers 1 DLC, Katarina has a longer conversation with a male Avatar about Kris than with a female Avatar. The gender of Kris whenever Katarina refers to him/her in the DLC depends on the Avatar's gender (it's the same as the Avatar's gender). That, combined with the fact that the male My Unit appears on the boxart for FE 12, leads me to believe My Unit/Kris was canonically male.
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** I meant a crossover after that one.

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** I meant a crossover after that one.one.

[[WMG: The upcoming crossover with ShinMegamiTensei will be a direct-but-distant sequel to Awakening]]
Specifically [[spoiler: the ending where Chrom seals Grima away instead of the Avatar killing him permanently.]] Ylisse undergoes a golden age for a thousand years, finally overcoming its MedievalStasis and entering something similar to the more modern [=MegaTen=] settings. But old legends do not die easily, and it would be interesting to see how a modern civilization without access to the legendary weapons deals with a newly-awakened Grima. Chrom and the Avatar could even return as Einherjar to explain exactly what happened in their time and help the current protagonists deal with Grima's return.

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