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16th Feb '17 6:23:14 PM infernape612
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* WMG/FireEmblemHeroes
7th Feb '17 2:52:58 PM TheSaintOfAllTropers
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**[[PlotHole You can get multiple Tyrfings in Awakening.]] Though this makes a certain amount of sense looking at it from a different (and amusing) viewpoint: someone, somewhere, somehow decided to mass-produce legendary weapons (which is why they're, while [[InfinityMinusOneSword certainly not weak]], not anywhere NEAR as strong as the holy weapons of old despite supposedly being the same weapons). Think about it. Their Mt took a nosedive (even the strongest of them have 14-17 Mt, where the old ones had 30 Mt), they now [[BreakableWeapons break pretty easily]] when they used to be indestructible, and their stat boosts are barely ~15% of what they used to be. My bet for who did this is on [[AuthorAvatar An]][[IntrepidMerchant na]].
28th Dec '16 6:34:10 AM Gosicrystal
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(Completely stolen from the ''Fire Emblem Wiki''.) The prologue of ''Shadow Dragon'' is an entirely new level that was not present in the original game, and in it, you gain control of a few of the units that were in your starting army in the original: Marth, [[CrutchCharacter Jagen]], Cain, Abel, and Gordin. You also gain control of one brand-new character, Frey. During this prologue, you have to sacrifice a unit for use as a decoy, who will be LostForever -- not even the staff that revives the dead late in the game can bring that unit back (although by that point, [[CantCatchUp why would you want to]]?) -- in order to get a door to open. (You can avoid the use of the decoy by purposely killing Gordin, who appears as a recruitable "enemy", instead of recruiting him.) Not only would this explain where Frey was in the original game, but in Hard Mode, where the prologue is automatically skipped, Frey is once again missing. It is therefore speculated that canonically, Frey sacrificed himself to allow Marth to escape prior to the start of the first game.

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(Completely stolen from the ''Fire Emblem Wiki''.) The prologue of ''Shadow Dragon'' is an entirely new level that was not present in the original game, and in it, you gain control of a few of the units that were in your starting army in the original: Marth, [[CrutchCharacter Jagen]], Cain, Abel, and Gordin. You also gain control of one brand-new character, Frey. During this prologue, you have to sacrifice a unit for use as a decoy, who will be LostForever [[PermanentlyMissableContent lost forever]] -- not even the staff that revives the dead late in the game can bring that unit back (although by that point, [[CantCatchUp why would you want to]]?) -- in order to get a door to open. (You can avoid the use of the decoy by purposely killing Gordin, who appears as a recruitable "enemy", instead of recruiting him.) Not only would this explain where Frey was in the original game, but in Hard Mode, where the prologue is automatically skipped, Frey is once again missing. It is therefore speculated that canonically, Frey sacrificed himself to allow Marth to escape prior to the start of the first game.
16th May '16 8:15:34 PM ChrisX
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* Survivors of Bahara will be savable. The Kia Staff will have multiple uses to compensate.

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* Survivors of Bahara will be savable. The Kia Staff will have multiple uses to compensate.compensate.

[[WMG:Hilda used to be a normal woman in the beginning, but secretly became a member of Loptyr Sect one day]]
Yes, what we have seen at the moment is the very picture of a CompleteMonster, a soulless devil. But... that's just straight up impossible, when even Manfroy has the excuse of persecution. My guess is that Hilda was actually born normal after all. But then, the Loptyr Sect got their claws on her firsthand and pretty much convinced her to sell her soul to Loptyr and becoming its member while maintaining the royal presence. Why is this? A lot of Hilda's actions seems to be in line to what Loptyr Sect members are doing than any other nobles, so I tend to think that she used to be normal, if a bit power-hungry, but then gets tempted to join the sect and then worsening her personality.
4th May '16 6:09:31 PM spiritsunami
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*** And then it turns out that it's more like Kris/My Unit was the alpha and Robin/Avatar was the beta. ''FireEmblemFates'' ended up starring the first true player-created lord, Corrin.




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** I think "aged better" seems plausible. It's quite possible that older Murdock is in his [=40s=] and younger Murock in his [=20s=].




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* I like this explanation, although the real reason is GameplayAndStorySegregation (many late-game bosses are given minor Holy Blood solely to allow them access to weapons that their class normally wouldn't be able to access).



* Ulster and Larcei will be able to use the Balmung if they have Odo Major Holy Blood; the can directly trade with Shannan.
* The story will confirm or deny whether Holy Blood is fading in individuals; Scipio should have Ulir minor but doesn't, Lewyn's uncles don't have it even though they're his father's brothers, etc.

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** Not feasible; this is a series where character death being permanent is a staple. But yeah, the women automatically marrying if they're still alive is a possibility, making it necessary to outright kill them to get the substitutes.
* Ulster and Larcei will be able to use the Balmung if they have Odo Major Holy Blood; the they can directly trade with Shannan.
* The story will confirm or deny whether Holy Blood is fading in individuals; Scipio Scopio should have Ulir minor but doesn't, Lewyn's uncles don't have it even though they're his father's brothers, etc.




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** I thought of that possibility, too. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who liked it. And yes, a ''Genealogy''-style split story would be the best way to do it.




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** Confirmed; ''Fates'' allows you to capture certain enemies (pretty much anyone who isn't a Faceless, an "Outsider", or an opposite-route playable character or major villain), allowing for you to have both true generic enemies and even non-plot crucial bosses. This even includes the recurring {{Gonk}} bandit brothers!
4th May '16 5:35:56 PM spiritsunami
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*** Just the opposite, in fact; a conversation between Frey and the player unit ''confirms'' that Frey was the canonical sacrifice, and that he was [[NotQuiteDead severely wounded and left for dead by the enemy]], but miraculously survived, albeit with lingering effects from his injuries.

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*** Just the opposite, in fact; a conversation between Frey and the player unit ''confirms'' that Frey was the canonical sacrifice, and that he was [[NotQuiteDead severely wounded and left for dead by the enemy]], but miraculously survived, albeit with lingering effects from his injuries.
injuries. [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration This also explains why the Aum Staff can't revive the sacrifice.]]
4th May '16 5:34:40 PM ChrisX
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* A WhatIf bonus scenario/split path in a similar vein of [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Birthright and Conquest]]. After finishing the game once, there will be a bonus path available whereas following that path creates a new continuity: The Battle of Belhalla is prevented and Sigurd lives. The first generation then takes on the battle with Loptyr, whereas the second generation characters are obtainable via paralogues as with Awakening and Fates.
3rd May '16 1:41:16 AM ChrisX
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* There will be cameos from ''Thracia 776''.

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* There will be cameos from ''Thracia 776''. Also, Briggid would return in the epilogue scenes or get mentioned in Faval's ending.



* There will be additional chapters dealing with what the first generation was doing, how they survived, and how their kids ended up everywhere else.

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* There will be additional chapters dealing with what the first generation was doing, how they survived, and how their kids ended up everywhere else. Also to some, their last moments, such as Ferry on the death bed or snippets of Tailto's depressing end life.
24th Apr '16 9:40:46 AM Ggb81
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**Even though the title of the thread is literally, "Unconfirmed FE4 tidbits"...
5th Apr '16 4:43:35 PM SteelEdge
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* There will be conversations between Oifey, Shannan, Finn, and Lewyn about how much they're changed. Shannan will note that Finn and Lewyn have grown up, and that he always thought they were adults back in the first generation. Finn will note that Shannan grew up well. If Finn and Ayra marry, then Shannan and Finn will acknowledge that.
* If Finn or Lewyn marry Raquesis, Ayra, or Adean, they will thank Oifey and Shannan for raising their children.
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