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In ''[[FireEmblemElibe Sword of Seals]]'', the character Gonzales can be found at level 12 on one route, and level 5 on the other, but his stats are the same regardless. This is consistent with the effects of Juna Fruit. Note that to drop 7 levels, Gonzales would need to have eaten at least two Juna Fruits, as there is a 5-level maximum per fruit. How he managed to get two of what is obviously a very rare delicacy in Elibe is anyone's guess, though the most likely scenario involves the corrupt nobles who push him around seeing him only as a weapon and therefore thinking only to make him stronger.

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In ''[[FireEmblemElibe Sword of Seals]]'', the character Gonzales can be found at level 12 on one route, and level 5 on the other, but his stats are the same regardless. This is consistent with the effects of Juna Fruit. Note that to drop 7 levels, Gonzales would need to have eaten at least two Juna Fruits, as there is a 5-level maximum per fruit. How he managed to get two of what is obviously a very rare delicacy in Elibe is anyone's guess, though the most likely scenario involves the corrupt nobles who push him around around, seeing him only as a weapon and therefore thinking only to make him stronger.



Because, much like the case of Sonia, though Jahn believes himself to be a true dragon, he's really just an especially intelligent war dragon. In fact, all of Elibe's fire dragons were the same, a fact the other dragons may or may not have understood. Idoun didn't create the first war dragons, just mass-produced dumb ones that could be sacrificed by the score. The original fire dragons were created long before the Scouring as guardians and shock troops in case of war, and a few managed to worm their way into positions of power as time passed and the other dragons forgot that they didn't have the capacity for empathy and so really shouldn't be trusted with it. Even after the war, the fire dragons continued in their role as guardians - besides Ninian and Nils, the only dragons that cross the gate when Nergal opens it are fire dragons because they are the only ones there, keeping watch on it.

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Because, much like the case of Sonia, though Jahn believes himself to be a true dragon, he's really just an especially intelligent war dragon. In fact, all of Elibe's fire dragons were the same, a fact the other dragons may or may not have understood. Idoun didn't create the first war dragons, just mass-produced dumb ones that could be sacrificed by the score. The original fire dragons were created long before the Scouring as guardians and shock troops in case of war, and a few managed to worm their way into positions of power as time passed and the other dragons forgot that they didn't have the capacity for empathy and so really shouldn't be trusted with it. Even after the war, the fire dragons continued in their role as guardians - -- besides Ninian and Nils, the only dragons that cross the gate when Nergal opens it are fire dragons because they are the only ones there, keeping watch on it.



* The exception, oddly enough, is [[spoiler:''Myrrh'', whose normal ending says she "lived a long and full life", past tense, despite the fact that she'll [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld likely outlast every other character in the game by '''millennia'''.]] To a lesser extent, projecting the futures of some of the children of the younger characters might mess up the timeline if everyone is supposed to still be alive unless Duessel is in fact YoungerThanHeLooks.

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* The exception, oddly enough, is [[spoiler:''Myrrh'', [[spoiler:''Myrrh'']], whose normal ending says she "lived a long and full life", past tense, despite the fact that she'll [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld likely outlast every other character in the game by '''millennia'''.]] To a lesser extent, projecting the futures of some of the children of the younger characters might mess up the timeline if everyone is supposed to still be alive unless Duessel is in fact YoungerThanHeLooks.




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*** Well, Robin/Avatar technically isn't a Lord, but [[WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou his/her death does result in]] GameOver, and he/she has a huge connection to the plot ''and'' ends up as essentially Chrom's right-hand (wo)man... For practical purposes, we can call this confirmed.



* This ''could'' be confirmed - it's not shown on screen, but ROM-probing shows that [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything the game does load Harken's portrait data]] for that sequence in addition to that of whichever unit is visiting the village.

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* This ''could'' be confirmed - -- it's not shown on screen, but ROM-probing shows that [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything the game does load Harken's portrait data]] for that sequence in addition to that of whichever unit is visiting the village.



Think about it. Though her Funetik Aksent muddles her words up a bit, she refers to herself in the third person using pronouns such as "we" and "us." This is a trait that royalty of European countries (such as England) wherein the ruler would use the plural form in order to suggest that they carried the backing of their ancestors when they made a decision. Also, she has a shadowy background, having been saved by villagers from drowning in a river. Where did she come from beforehand? Perhaps she was a runaway princess from a kingdom being trampled under Doluna, Grust or Medon's campaign? And speaking of Medon, Athena and Princess Minerva are linked by their names, which are the Greek and Roman equivalents of one another, respectively.

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Think about it. Though her Funetik Aksent muddles her words up a bit, she refers to herself in the third person using pronouns such as "we" and "us." This is a trait that royalty of European countries (such as England) wherein the ruler would use the plural form in order to suggest that they carried the backing of their ancestors when they made a decision. Also, she has a shadowy background, having been saved by villagers from drowning in a river. Where did she come from beforehand? Perhaps she was a runaway princess from a kingdom being trampled under Doluna, Grust Grust, or Medon's campaign? And speaking of Medon, Athena and Princess Minerva are linked by their names, which are the Greek and Roman equivalents of one another, respectively.



This might seem like a longshot, but hear me out. In Heath's nonpaired ending, he relocates to Ilia and continues fighting as a mercenary. In Sword of Seals, the reason Gale is originally denied the position of Dragon General is because he isn't a native of Bern (despite being one of Bern's "trademark" Wyvern Lords). In other words, my theory is that Gale was born in Ilia as Heath's son, and became a wyvern rider like his father, and eventually traveled to Bern and became a Knight.

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This might seem like a longshot, long shot, but hear me out. In Heath's nonpaired ending, he relocates to Ilia and continues fighting as a mercenary. In Sword of Seals, the reason Gale is originally denied the position of Dragon General is because he isn't a native of Bern (despite being one of Bern's "trademark" Wyvern Lords). In other words, my theory is that Gale was born in Ilia as Heath's son, and became a wyvern rider like his father, and eventually traveled to Bern and became a Knight.



Confirmed in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, the Laguz and Beorc evolved from scaly creatures into things which [[GeneticEngineering looked a lot more like their]] [[VainSorceress "goddess"]]. Why stop there? Who is to say we are looking at are humans in any of these games? 1:no game is on Earth, 2:strange phenotypes are always common and 3:silver hurts them more than iron and steel. Silver is not particularly dangerous to humans as far as metals go but many monsters hate silver.

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Confirmed in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, the Laguz and Beorc evolved from scaly creatures into things which [[GeneticEngineering looked a lot more like their]] [[VainSorceress "goddess"]]. Why stop there? Who is to say we are looking at are humans in any of these games? 1:no 1: no game is on Earth, 2:strange 2: stra,nge phenotypes are always common common, and 3:silver 3: silver hurts them more than iron and steel. Silver is not particularly dangerous to humans as far as metals go but many monsters hate silver.



Or seduced or blackmailed or something. WordOfGod states that Aimee and Larabel are the same person. This raises questions because she uses the name Larabel on a different continent but there is only one continent on Ike's planet. This means one of two things: 1. She is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld very old]], [[TimeAbyss old enough to live the great flood, the shifting of plate tectonics to create new land and or some seriously prolonged volcanic activity.]] 2. She is able to move between different worlds and or timelines somehow.

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Or seduced or blackmailed or something. WordOfGod states that Aimee and Larabel are the same person. This raises questions because she uses the name Larabel on a different continent but there is only one continent on Ike's planet. This means one of two things: 1. She is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld very old]], [[TimeAbyss old enough to live through the great flood, flood ''and'' the shifting of plate tectonics to create new land and or and/or some seriously prolonged volcanic activity.]] 2. She is able to move between different worlds and or timelines somehow.



While there is a similar theory already here, mine is more specifically about the continents themselves rather than the time. Wondering about things like planet size (because when you have multiple continents the size of Asia, it takes a larger planet than Earth to keep them from touching), would be somewhat of a handwave, but almost required in this theory; however, I digress. You COULD narrow it down to three continents, Archaneia being the same as Jugdral (though I will leave that debate in of itself open for discussion- who knows why WordOfGod would say that Jugdral took place thousands of years earlier?); leaving us with both Magvel and Elibe as the other two continents. While one must wonder why it takes the whole "Other World" concept of Awakening to reach characters from the other series, I think it has more to do with the major time differentials over anything else.

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While there is a similar theory already here, mine is more specifically about the continents themselves rather than the time. Wondering about things like planet size (because when you have multiple continents the size of Asia, it takes a larger planet than Earth to keep them from touching), would be somewhat of a handwave, but almost required in this theory; however, I digress. You COULD narrow it down to three continents, Archaneia being the same as Jugdral (though I will leave that debate in of itself open for discussion- discussion -- who knows why WordOfGod would say that Jugdral took place thousands of years earlier?); leaving us with both Magvel and Elibe as the other two continents. While one must wonder why it takes the whole "Other World" concept of Awakening to reach characters from the other series, I think it has more to do with the major time differentials over anything else.



He was a ridiculously gifted tactician as shown by how he led a rag-tag army multiple times against superior numbers to victory with zero/minimal loss. The Emperor heard news of an army that continued to break the odds led by a mysterious tactician and he understood that he had found one of the primarchs. After Eliwood's coronation, the Tactician had to immediately leave for a reason that was never specified. The reason was that he was approached by the Emperor shortly after the defeat of Nergal and he agreed to take command of a Space Marine legion. It was mentioned that he disappeared after the events of the game and all attempts to locate him was futile. This is because the Tactician was not in Elibe (or the planet it was on for that matter), he was in another part of the galaxy fighting in the Great Crusade.

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He was a ridiculously gifted tactician as shown by how he led a rag-tag army multiple times against superior numbers to victory with zero/minimal loss. The Emperor heard news of an army that continued to break the odds led by a mysterious tactician and he understood that he had found one of the primarchs. After Eliwood's coronation, the Tactician had to immediately leave for a reason that was never specified. The reason was that he was approached by the Emperor shortly after the defeat of Nergal and he agreed to take command of a Space Marine legion. It was mentioned that he disappeared after the events of the game and all attempts to locate him was were futile. This is because the Tactician was not in Elibe (or the planet it was on for that matter), he was in another part of the galaxy fighting in the Great Crusade.



* He was shown to be at the very least a NobleDemon and he was not a boss, which is usually a hint that said unit is recruitable (Douglas is a notable exception, though he joined the next chapter if he was still alive by the end of the chapter)

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* He was shown to be at the very least a NobleDemon and he was not a boss, which is usually a hint that said unit is recruitable (Douglas is a notable exception, though he joined the next chapter if he was still alive by the end of the chapter)chapter).



* He and his units doesn't attack you sometimes. Of course this could be chalked to programming mistakes, but it might also because he was meant to be a recruitable unit.
* Some recruitable characters appears as an enemy with his/her own unit and when he/she was recruited the unit would become green (Percival, Klein, Tate). Gale appeared as a reinforcement with accompanying units, presumably the game designers might have intended Gale to be similar.

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* He and his units doesn't don't attack you sometimes. Of course course, this could be chalked up to programming mistakes, but it might also be because he was meant to be a recruitable unit.
* Some recruitable characters appears appear as an enemy with his/her own unit unit, and when he/she was recruited recruited, the unit would become green (Percival, Klein, Tate). Gale appeared as a reinforcement with accompanying units, presumably the game designers might have intended Gale to be similar.



Diadora is Lain, she in the manga wanted to be have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always, the dark dragon god Loptous knowing this, come back in her son, wanting her power(Omnipotence) atempted to kill her an stole her power, but she rewrited reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood,and erasing himself from the FE series(this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)

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Diadora is Lain, Lain; she in the manga wanted to be have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always, the always. The dark dragon god Loptous Loptous, knowing this, come back in her son, and wanting her power(Omnipotence) atempted power (Omnipotence), attempted to kill her an stole steal her power, but she rewrited rewrote reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood,and blood, and erasing himself herself from the FE series(this series (this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)



* However, older!Murdoch looks slightly taller and has more of a widow's peak that his younger self. It could just be that he aged better than the others, or he was actually [[YoungerThanTheyLook quite young back then and just didn't look it]].

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* However, older!Murdoch looks slightly taller and has more of a widow's peak that than his younger self. It could just be that he aged better than the others, or he was actually [[YoungerThanTheyLook quite young back then and just didn't look it]].



ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Since this will be the first time the history of FireEmblem to involve ANY sort of science fiction elements, what better way to fit in with the tactical RPG gameplay of the series than by having the main kingdom being invaded by aliens from another planet and/or dimension. In this case, the aliens are using special interdimensional summoning technology to summon demons from the ShinMegamiTensei universe as their main foot soldiers. However, using this technology starts doing weird damage to the fabric of time and space, leading to all the main characters from both franchises coming together and eventually teaming up take down the singular threat.

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ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Since this will be the first time the history of FireEmblem to involve ANY sort of science fiction elements, what better way to fit in with the tactical RPG gameplay of the series than by having the main kingdom being invaded by aliens from another planet and/or dimension. dimension? In this case, the aliens are using special interdimensional summoning technology to summon demons from the ShinMegamiTensei universe as their main foot soldiers. However, using this technology starts doing weird damage to the fabric of time and space, leading to all the main characters from both franchises coming together and eventually teaming up take down the singular threat.
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Chris is rather similar to Ike(though moreso to FE9 Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius(since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Archaneia, Jugdral and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.
* Jossed. Chris is...no one in particular in the grand scheme of things, while Mark is either [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Rufure]] or their child who is also called Mark.

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Chris is rather similar to Ike(though Ike (though moreso to FE9 [=FE9=] Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius(since Tellius (since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Archaneia, Jugdral Jugdral, and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.
* Jossed. Chris is... no one in particular in the grand scheme of things, while Mark is either [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Rufure]] or their child who is also called Mark.



In his support conversation with Wendy, Oujay mentions that he had a sister but, because of how poor his village was, female children were usually left in far-off lands to be adopted by people who can give them a better life. Lalum is adopted. This is FireEmblem, where there are no coincidences; any character mentioned offhand will somehow become important to the plot. (Note that every last character mentioned in a support conversation in ''Blazing Blade'' that does not appear in that game ''does'' appear in ''Sealed Sword''--Geitz's brother, Canas's mother and son, Hawkeye's daughter, etc.) Note, also, that this is a franchise with a history of adding a bunch of unexpected familial relations between its characters (most notable in ''Radiant Dawn'', but also the whole Nino/Canas thing in ''Blazing Blade''). It would be a unique occurrence if something like this was mentioned and it ''didn't'' refer to someone else in the game. Also, in the Lalum/Oujay conversation, Oujay seems pretty uncomfortable with Lalum's flirtatious advances and is specifically trying ''not'' to stare. There isn't much that can explain why he would be uncomfortable, but it's possible that something in his subconscious is telling him that starting a relationship with this girl [[BrotherSisterIncest would be a bad idea.]]

* I propose that Lilina's his sister. I mean, Oujay mentions in with his support with her (too?), and they look alike. On the other hand, Lilina's mother is mysteriously missing. None of Hector's endings even hint at a "canon" one, and if anything, Lyn's his love interest, despite it being a doomed romance. (She wanted to go back to Sacae, Hector had to run Ostia.) Maybe Hector just adopted.

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In his support conversation with Wendy, Oujay mentions that he had a sister but, because of how poor his village was, female children were usually left in far-off lands to be adopted by people who can give them a better life. Lalum is adopted. This is FireEmblem, where there are no coincidences; any character mentioned offhand will somehow become important to the plot. (Note that every last character mentioned in a support conversation in ''Blazing Blade'' that does not appear in that game ''does'' appear in ''Sealed Sword''--Geitz's Sword'' -- Geitz's brother, Canas's mother and son, Hawkeye's daughter, etc.) Note, also, that this is a franchise with a history of adding a bunch of unexpected familial relations between its characters (most notable in ''Radiant Dawn'', but also the whole Nino/Canas thing in ''Blazing Blade''). It would be a unique occurrence if something like this was mentioned and it ''didn't'' refer to someone else in the game. Also, in the Lalum/Oujay conversation, Oujay seems pretty uncomfortable with Lalum's flirtatious advances and is specifically trying ''not'' to stare. There isn't much that can explain why he would be uncomfortable, but it's possible that something in his subconscious is telling him that starting a relationship with this girl [[BrotherSisterIncest would be a bad idea.]]

* I propose that Lilina's his sister. I mean, Oujay mentions in it with his support with her (too?), and they look alike. On the other hand, Lilina's mother is mysteriously missing. None of Hector's endings even hint at a "canon" one, and if anything, Lyn's his love interest, despite it being a doomed romance. (She wanted to go back to Sacae, Hector had to run Ostia.) Maybe Hector just adopted.



* [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=15448 It's been confirmed that the first five games take place in the same world with FE4 being the chronologically first game.]]

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* [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=15448 It's been confirmed that the first five games take place in the same world world, with FE4 being the chronologically first game.]]



# In Shadow Dragon Nagi, who is apparently the reincarnation/avatar/successor/something of Narga (who is one of the few things to exist in [[NonLinearSequel more than one setting]]), resides in it. (Would this make Narga a time lord?)

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# In Shadow Dragon Dragon, Nagi, who is apparently the reincarnation/avatar/successor/something of Narga (who is one of the few things to exist in [[NonLinearSequel more than one setting]]), resides in it. (Would this make Narga a time lord?)



[[WMG: FE 6 Karel is actually Guy from FE 7]]
It would explain why they're both called the "Saint of Swords" in their FE 7 endings and why Karel's personality is so different between games. Karel and Guy probably fought each other sometime after FE 7, and if Guy won that fight, he might've taken his old master's name as a show of respect.

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[[WMG: FE 6 [=FE6=] Karel is actually Guy from FE 7]]
[=FE7=]]]
It would explain why they're both called the "Saint of Swords" in their FE 7 [=FE7=] endings and why Karel's personality is so different between games. Karel and Guy probably fought each other sometime after FE 7, [=FE7=], and if Guy won that fight, he might've taken his old master's name as a show of respect.



Each page is written in a magically charged script; they're more like blueprints for the spell. This explains why mages can run out of spells from a given spellbook, and why they can't cast without a book. When they cast a spell, they tear a page out of the book, and use it to cast the spell; the page is consumed by the effort. When they have used all the spells in a book; they obviously can't continue casting from it. You can only put so much magic into a single book; which is why the really powerful spell books have so few pages in them.
** Canon, except it's the INK on the page that's the catalyst for the spell. Breaking a Tome in Genealogy results in an "Empty Book", and in the OVA, you see the ink on Garnef's tome materialize into his spell.

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Each page is written in a magically charged script; they're more like blueprints for the spell. This explains why mages can run out of spells from a given spellbook, and why they can't cast without a book. When they cast a spell, they tear a page out of the book, and use it to cast the spell; the page is consumed by the effort. When they have used all the spells in a book; they obviously can't continue casting from it. You can only put so much magic into a single book; book, which is why the really powerful spell books have so few pages in them.
** Canon, except it's the INK on the page that's the catalyst for the spell. Breaking a Tome in Genealogy results in an "Empty Book", and in the OVA, you see the ink on Garnef's Gharnef's tome materialize into his spell.



* That actually seems to be shot down in the game; Kishuna is specifically referred to as the "only morph he made with emotions", implying that Kishuna is not his first morph. Also, while Renault friend is likely the first morph, part of the reason Renault was turned away from it was because it was an emotionless shell of his old friend.

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* That actually seems to be shot down in the game; Kishuna is specifically referred to as the "only morph he made with emotions", implying that Kishuna is not his first morph. Also, while Renault Renaul'st friend is likely the first morph, part of the reason Renault was turned away from it was because it was an emotionless shell of his old friend.



** Besides, although we see that Kishuna has emotions, he never, ever speaks. Him not speaking was why Nergal cast him aside, believing him to be a failed test. That not speaking would have Renault think that Kishuna was emotionless as well, also rejecting him. So for me at least this feels like Kishuna had emotions, [[AndIMustScream but could not express them for some reason]]

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** Besides, although we see that Kishuna has emotions, he never, ever speaks. Him not speaking was why Nergal cast him aside, believing him to be a failed test. That not speaking would have Renault think that Kishuna was emotionless as well, also rejecting him. So for me at least this feels like Kishuna had emotions, [[AndIMustScream but could not express them for some reason]]reason]].



(Completely stolen from the Fire Emblem wiki.) The prologue of ''Shadow Dragon'' is an entirely new level that was not present in the original game, and in it, you gain control of a few of the units that were in your starting army in the original: Marth, [[CrutchCharacter Jagen]], Cain, Abel, and Gordin. You also gain control of one brand-new character, Frey. During this prologue, you have to sacrifice a unit for use as a decoy, who will be LostForever--not even the staff that revives the dead late in the game can bring that unit back (although by that point, [[CantCatchUp why would you want to]]?)--in order to get a door to open. (You can avoid the use of the decoy by purposely killing Gordin, who appears as a recruitable "enemy", instead of recruiting him.) Not only would this explain where Frey was in the original game, but in Hard mode, where the prologue is automatically skipped, Frey is once again missing. It is therefore speculated that canonically, Frey sacrificed himself to allow Marth to escape prior to the start of the first game.

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(Completely stolen from the Fire Emblem wiki.) The prologue of ''Shadow Dragon'' is an entirely new level that was not present in the original game, and in it, you gain control of a few of the units that were in your starting army in the original: Marth, [[CrutchCharacter Jagen]], Cain, Abel, and Gordin. You also gain control of one brand-new character, Frey. During this prologue, you have to sacrifice a unit for use as a decoy, who will be LostForever--not LostForever -- not even the staff that revives the dead late in the game can bring that unit back (although by that point, [[CantCatchUp why would you want to]]?)--in to]]?) -- in order to get a door to open. (You can avoid the use of the decoy by purposely killing Gordin, who appears as a recruitable "enemy", instead of recruiting him.) Not only would this explain where Frey was in the original game, but in Hard mode, where the prologue is automatically skipped, Frey is once again missing. It is therefore speculated that canonically, Frey sacrificed himself to allow Marth to escape prior to the start of the first game.



*** Wouldn't this be sorta deemed false now in light of [=FE12=] since he shows up alive and well during the tutorial areas as well as joining up during the main game?

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*** Wouldn't this be sorta deemed false now in light of [=FE12=] since ,since he shows up alive and well during the tutorial areas as well as joining up during the main game?



As an add-on to the previous WMG, the character used as the decoy (canonically Frey) isn't dead. They don't actually say anywhere that the decoy was killed, and, as mentioned above, the Ohm Staff cannot revive the decoy. Why? ''Because the decoy isn't dead in the first place''. Being killed a few years before the main game isn't a suitable explanation; you can revive any other character that was lost in the Prologue. With a remake of Book II on the way, who knows? Perhaps Frey might make a reappearance...

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As an add-on to the previous WMG, the character used as the decoy (canonically Frey) isn't dead. They don't actually say anywhere that the decoy was killed, and, as mentioned above, the Ohm Aum Staff cannot revive the decoy. Why? ''Because the decoy isn't dead in the first place''. Being killed a few years before the main game isn't a suitable explanation; you can revive any other character that was lost in the Prologue. With a remake of Book II on the way, who knows? Perhaps Frey might make a reappearance...



After her tragic relationship with Heath, she had married Erk as part of a political marriage while bearing Miledy and Zeiss in secret. Erk found out and sent them off to Bern as Wveryn knights which a polite way to disown the both of them

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After her tragic relationship with Heath, she had married Erk as part of a political marriage while bearing Miledy and Zeiss in secret. Erk found out and sent them off to Bern as Wveryn knights knights, which was a polite way to disown the both of themthem.



We know Lowen as the eager-to-please Pheraen cavalier in FE 7, in which he spent an entire set of supports lecturing Eliwood on the importance of proper nutrition, as well as revealed that he had been cooking for the army surreptitiously. In FE 6, Lugh mentions in his supports with Chad and Ray that the man who delivered meals to them in the field has given him extra baked tarts. Klein also mentions, in his A support with Percival, the cook's concern that Percival doesn't like his meals because he eats them without expression. Neither of these men is given a name, but they both seem to share the same concern over making sure everyone in the army gets enough to eat and, what's more, that their food actually meets their preferences and tastes good (which, from what I've gathered, is unheard of in any military). It's likely that at least one of these guys is actually Lowen returning to (half of) his previous role, if the two unnamed caterers aren't, in fact, the same person.

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We know Lowen as the eager-to-please Pheraen cavalier in FE 7, [=FE7=], in which he spent an entire set of supports lecturing Eliwood on the importance of proper nutrition, as well as revealed that he had been cooking for the army surreptitiously. In FE 6, Lugh mentions in his supports with Chad and Ray that the man who delivered meals to them in the field has given him extra baked tarts. Klein also mentions, in his A support with Percival, the cook's concern that Percival doesn't like his meals because he eats them without expression. Neither of these men is given a name, but they both seem to share the same concern over making sure everyone in the army gets enough to eat and, what's more, that their food actually meets their preferences and tastes good (which, from what I've gathered, is unheard of in any military). It's likely that at least one of these guys is actually Lowen returning to (half of) his previous role, if the two unnamed caterers aren't, in fact, the same person.



Zephiel's explanation to Roy (and before that, presumably Zephiel) has one glaring flaw: it relies on the idea that dragons don't possess all those silly emotions humans do. Even neglecting Ninian, Nils, and Sophia because they are only half dragon (though Ninian and Nils grew up beyond the gate and would have learned the dragons' social norms...) it only takes about five seconds looking in Fa's general direction to see that this is obviously bullshit. Thus, Zephiel's justification for war and both the trustworthiness of Jahn's words and his motivations are called into question. But why would Jahn tell this to Zephiel, who was in a position to believe him as he had only met Idoun, and Roy, who really should have seen enough of Fa by then to know better?

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Zephiel's Jahn's explanation to Roy (and before that, presumably Zephiel) has one glaring flaw: it relies on the idea that dragons don't possess all those silly emotions humans do. Even neglecting Ninian, Nils, and Sophia because they are only half dragon (though Ninian and Nils grew up beyond the gate and would have learned the dragons' social norms...) ), it only takes about five seconds looking in Fa's general direction to see that this is obviously bullshit. Thus, Zephiel's justification for war and both the trustworthiness of Jahn's words and his motivations are called into question. But why would Jahn tell this to Zephiel, who was in a position to believe him as he had only met Idoun, and Roy, who really should have seen enough of Fa by then to know better?



Building off of this, it's highly likely that Jahn's version of events is just as wrong as history's. The conflict that became the Scouring may not even have started as humans vs dragons at all. If the Eight Heroes' tale followed the normal Fire Emblem patterns, the war likely started as a sudden invasion of one country by another, each a mix of humans and dragons, that slowly changed into a conflict of species as alliances shifted and a hidden power - like, say, Jahn and his brethren - manipulated events behind the scenes. The Heroes' army may well even have had a dragon or two of its own - Aenir, perhaps, or Melitha.
* Yeah. Thanks for removing any moral ambiguity from the Scouring by claiming the Fire Dragons, the main aggressors on the Dragon side, were just soulless weapons, and thus OK to kill, and the one Fire Dragon we see in all of the Elibe who isn't a War Dragon actually is not only a War Dragon, but also a liar who may have hidden the "true" reason for the conflict for shits and giggles. (which ignores the fact that Jahn spent most of the century after the Scouring recovering from his wounds. He only got enough strength to send Zephiel that hologram after Idenn's awakening recharged the Dragon Temple) A few (more) problems, if the creation of War Dragons predated Idenn, then that means the Dragons already had a means to make War Dragons, and thus would have no need for a Divine Dragon to have to transform into a Mage Dragon (Demon Dragon. Whatever.) Which would also mean that the Divine Dragons would have no reason to run from the other Dragons, [[ForWantOfANail and might even have sided with the other dragons instead of staying neutral.]] Also, Jahn didn't tell Zephiel about the Scouring, Zephiel looked it up himself and even knew somethings that Jahn didn't (such as how Hartmut sealed Idenn and why). All Jahn did was align himself with Zephiel because they had similar goals.
** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Archaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul - not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.
*** Except Jahn didn't feed Zephiel any story. Zephiel knew most of this himself. Jahn even admits that through his research, Zephiel knew some things that he didn't. Also, the story explictly states that they needed a Demon Dragon to make War Dragons. And if Jahn is a War Dragon, how can he think? How can he talk? The one named War Dragon we see is Ain, who can only say simple thoughts like "burn" or "die" and doesn't really show any signs of real intellegence at all. I feel that trying to argue that Jahn is a War Dragon that they made able to "think" based on a separate set of beings is really reaching. And Idenn was treated as the War Dragons "commander" anyway. As for why the Fire Dragon in FE7 is stronger than the other pure blood Fire Dragon, I'd just say GameplayStorySegregation. However, also note that Roy and his army were packing all of the Divine Weapons plus the Sword of Seals which surpassed them, while Eliwood and pals had 4.
**** Jahn heard about the Heroes' battle against Idoun from Zephiel, but the rest was based on his own experience. 2 "Idoun was still young, but she had no problems in fulfulling our purposes, except for one... Her heart was not with us. She would not follow our commands. … We destroyed her soul to make her follow our every command." This implies Divine Dragons can create War Dragons, but Idoun refused to do so for the purpose of fighting humans. 3 For the purposes of this WMG, you might as well ask how Sonia can think and hold conversation, and Denning can't. This theory relies on Morphs and War Dragons being created in the same way. There's no basis for it in canon, true, which is why it's called Wild Mass Guessing and not Perfectly Reasonable Guessing. But there's no hard evidence against it, either. 4 "The Dark Dragon is an 'object' meant to bring hope to us Dragons again. It is no leader." 5 Jahn can be OHKO'd by a single Divine Weapon, which you can't say for the Fire Dragon. But GameplayStorySegregation is the most likely reason why FD > Jahn.

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Building off of this, it's highly likely that Jahn's version of events is just as wrong as history's. The conflict that became the Scouring may not even have started as humans vs dragons at all. If the Eight Heroes' tale followed the normal Fire Emblem patterns, the war likely started as a sudden invasion of one country by another, each a mix of humans and dragons, that slowly changed into a conflict of species as alliances shifted and a hidden power - -- like, say, Jahn and his brethren - -- manipulated events behind the scenes. The Heroes' army may well even have had a dragon or two of its own - -- Aenir, perhaps, or Melitha.
* Yeah. Thanks for removing any moral ambiguity from the Scouring by claiming the Fire Dragons, the main aggressors on the Dragon side, were just soulless weapons, and thus OK to kill, and the one Fire Dragon we see in all of the Elibe who isn't a War Dragon actually is not only a War Dragon, but also a liar who may have hidden the "true" reason for the conflict for shits and giggles. (which (Which ignores the fact that Jahn spent most of the century after the Scouring recovering from his wounds. He only got enough strength to send Zephiel that hologram after Idenn's awakening recharged the Dragon Temple) Temple.) A few (more) problems, if the creation of War Dragons predated Idenn, then that means the Dragons already had a means to make War Dragons, and thus would have no need for a Divine Dragon to have to transform into a Mage Dragon (Demon Dragon. Whatever.) Which would also mean that the Divine Dragons would have no reason to run from the other Dragons, [[ForWantOfANail and might even have sided with the other dragons instead of staying neutral.]] Also, Jahn didn't tell Zephiel about the Scouring, Zephiel looked it up himself and even knew somethings some things that Jahn didn't (such as how Hartmut sealed Idenn and why). All Jahn did was align himself with Zephiel because they had similar goals.
** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood Eliwood, and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Archaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul - -- not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.
*** Except Jahn didn't feed Zephiel any story. Zephiel knew most of this himself. Jahn even admits that through his research, Zephiel knew some things that he didn't. Also, the story explictly states that they needed a Demon Dragon to make War Dragons. And if Jahn is a War Dragon, how can he think? How can he talk? The one named War Dragon we see is Ain, who can only say simple thoughts like "burn" or "die" and doesn't really show any signs of real intellegence at all. I feel that trying to argue that Jahn is a War Dragon that they made able to "think" based on a separate set of beings is really reaching. And Idenn was treated as the War Dragons Dragons' "commander" anyway. As for why the Fire Dragon in FE7 is stronger than the other pure blood Fire Dragon, I'd just say GameplayStorySegregation. However, also note that Roy and his army were packing all of the Divine Weapons plus the Sword of Seals which surpassed them, while Eliwood and pals had 4.
**** Jahn heard about the Heroes' battle against Idoun from Zephiel, but the rest was based on his own experience. 2 2: "Idoun was still young, but she had no problems in fulfulling our purposes, except for one... Her heart was not with us. She would not follow our commands. … We destroyed her soul to make her follow our every command." This implies Divine Dragons can create War Dragons, but Idoun refused to do so for the purpose of fighting humans. 3 3: For the purposes of this WMG, you might as well ask how Sonia can think and hold conversation, and Denning can't. This theory relies on Morphs and War Dragons being created in the same way. There's no basis for it in canon, true, which is why it's called Wild Mass Guessing and not Perfectly Reasonable Guessing. But there's no hard evidence against it, either. 4 4: "The Dark Dragon is an 'object' meant to bring hope to us Dragons again. It is no leader." 5 5: Jahn can be OHKO'd by a single Divine Weapon, which you can't say for the Fire Dragon. But GameplayStorySegregation is the most likely reason why FD > Jahn.



In every Fire Emblem world where it is known to exist, the most powerful, sought after, and elusive of magics is the ability to bring back the dead. Yet, despite there being no apparent foreshadowing of his ability to do so, Bramimond comes out of nowhere in the ending of Blazing Sword to bring back Ninian. Deus Ex Machina, right? Except that we know that Bramimond traded his soul for the greatest of dark magics. Since most dark magic is used for killing things, the obvious assumption is that that refers to Apocalypse, but we also know that Nergal frequently used dark magic to create at least a mockery of life - his morphs. It's not a great leap to say that this might have been his pale imitation of Bramimond's greatest accomplishment. Of course, this means that Bramimond would have had cause and motivation to give everything to bring someone back from the dead - perhaps an unknown family member or love interest, but due to Conservation of Detail most likely one of the other heroes. My guess, for the best symbolism/irony/shipping, is Elimine.

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In every Fire Emblem world where it is known to exist, the most powerful, sought after, and elusive of magics is the ability to bring back the dead. Yet, despite there being no apparent foreshadowing of his ability to do so, Bramimond comes out of nowhere in the ending of Blazing Sword to bring back Ninian. Deus Ex Machina, right? Except that we know that Bramimond traded his soul for the greatest of dark magics. Since most dark magic is used for killing things, the obvious assumption is that that refers to Apocalypse, but we also know that Nergal frequently used dark magic to create at least a mockery of life - -- his morphs. It's not a great leap to say that this might have been his pale imitation of Bramimond's greatest accomplishment. Of course, this means that Bramimond would have had cause and motivation to give everything to bring someone back from the dead - -- perhaps an unknown family member or love interest, but due to Conservation of Detail most likely one of the other heroes. My guess, for the best symbolism/irony/shipping, is Elimine.



** She would look a lot like [[spoiler: Ninian]] if her hair and eye color were to be changed appropriately.

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** She would look a lot like [[spoiler: Ninian]] [[spoiler:Ninian]] if her hair and eye color were to be changed appropriately.



Most of the characters that can be unlocked in Creature Campaign died during the course of the story, but King Hayden of Frelia didn't. However, it's likely that he ''did'' die at some point not too far into the future, as the endings for many Frelian characters mention Innes's ascension to the throne and Innes's own ending specifically states that he became king after his father died. Unlike the epilogue of ''Blazing Sword'', ''Sacred Stones'''s epilogue doesn't mention the deaths of any playable characters except for those that actually died during the course of gameplay--not even CoolOldGuy Duessel, although his regular ending does mention "his remaining years". After selecting Creature Campaign in a given file and saving the file once, the Epilogue from that clear data can no longer be viewed. Theory: the Epilogue is "written" 5-10 years after the events of the game, while all participants are still alive (and in the case of those who were paired up, have started families), and that the Creature Campaign takes place after that has already been written and is therefore not included in the history; Hayden is already dead by this point.

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Most of the characters that can be unlocked in Creature Campaign died during the course of the story, but King Hayden of Frelia didn't. However, it's likely that he ''did'' die at some point not too far into the future, as the endings for many Frelian characters mention Innes's ascension to the throne and Innes's own ending specifically states that he became king after his father died. Unlike the epilogue of ''Blazing Sword'', ''Sacred Stones'''s epilogue doesn't mention the deaths of any playable characters except for those that actually died during the course of gameplay--not gameplay -- not even CoolOldGuy Duessel, although his regular ending does mention "his remaining years". After selecting Creature Campaign in a given file and saving the file once, the Epilogue from that clear data can no longer be viewed. Theory: the Epilogue is "written" 5-10 years after the events of the game, while all participants are still alive (and in the case of those who were paired up, have started families), and that the Creature Campaign takes place after that has already been written and is therefore not included in the history; Hayden is already dead by this point.
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* Jossed, they crossed over with ShinMegamiTensei instead.

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* Jossed, they crossed over with ShinMegamiTensei instead.instead.
** I meant a crossover after that one.
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That's a crossover waiting to happen and hey, if Pokemon can crossover with ''Nobunaga's Ambition'', why not?

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That's a crossover waiting to happen and hey, if Pokemon can crossover with ''Nobunaga's Ambition'', why not?not?
* Jossed, they crossed over with ShinMegamiTensei instead.
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[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe The last time we saw him,]] he was headed through the Dragon's Gate to a world where humans and dragons co-existed, which many have speculated to be Archanea. Having Nils around as a regular character in ''Awakening'' (as opposed to an Einherjar) would be a cool way to follow up on that and give us another view of Elibe's backstory the same way Tiki did for Archanea. Also, two words: Ice Manakete.

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[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe The last time we saw him,]] he was headed through the Dragon's Gate to a world where humans and dragons co-existed, which many have speculated to be Archanea. Having Nils around as a regular character in ''Awakening'' (as opposed to an Einherjar) would be a cool way to follow up on that and give us another view of Elibe's backstory the same way Tiki did for Archanea. Also, two words: Ice Manakete.Manakete.

[[WMG: If Fire Emblem does a future crossover, it will be with Pokemon.]]
That's a crossover waiting to happen and hey, if Pokemon can crossover with ''Nobunaga's Ambition'', why not?
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* However, older!Murdoch looks slightly taller and has more of a widow's peak that his younger self. It could just be that he aged better than the others, or he was actually [[YoungerThanTheyLook quite young back then and just didn't look it]].
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In Shadow Dragon, the only way to recruit Norne, Athena, Horace, Hetzel, and Ymir is to allow massive numbers of your own units to get killed. However, in New Mystery, all of the characters from Shadow Dragon are alive and well, and recognize Marth, including the ones whose recruitment depended on everyone else being dead. Therefore, the only way this could have happened is if Marth made it all the way to the endgame of Shadow Dragon, then had Elice use the Aum Staff to resurrect everyone who he had sent to their deaths so he could unlock the side-chapters. Where did he get all of those Aum Staffs? Simple: GameShark.

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In Shadow Dragon, the only way to recruit Norne, Athena, Horace, Hetzel, and Ymir is to allow massive numbers of your own units to get killed. However, in New Mystery, all of the characters from Shadow Dragon are alive and well, and recognize Marth, including the ones whose recruitment depended on everyone else being dead. Therefore, the only way this could have happened is if Marth made it all the way to the endgame of Shadow Dragon, then had Elice use the Aum Staff to resurrect everyone who he had sent to their deaths so he could unlock the side-chapters. Where did he get all of those Aum Staffs? Simple: GameShark.GameShark.

[[WMG: A grown-up Nils will appear in future Awakening DLC]]
[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe The last time we saw him,]] he was headed through the Dragon's Gate to a world where humans and dragons co-existed, which many have speculated to be Archanea. Having Nils around as a regular character in ''Awakening'' (as opposed to an Einherjar) would be a cool way to follow up on that and give us another view of Elibe's backstory the same way Tiki did for Archanea. Also, two words: Ice Manakete.
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If only because this would allow for [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 Gun Mages]]. You'd essentially have a guy (or gal) like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Balthier]] or [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia Albus]] as a Unit on your side, [[RuleOfCool which would be the definition of "win."]]

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If only because this would allow for [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 Gun Mages]]. You'd essentially have a guy (or gal) like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Balthier]] or [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia Albus]] as a Unit on your side, [[RuleOfCool which would be the definition of "win."]]"]]

[[WMG:Marth canonically uses a cheating device to obtain infinite Aum Staffs.]]
In Shadow Dragon, the only way to recruit Norne, Athena, Horace, Hetzel, and Ymir is to allow massive numbers of your own units to get killed. However, in New Mystery, all of the characters from Shadow Dragon are alive and well, and recognize Marth, including the ones whose recruitment depended on everyone else being dead. Therefore, the only way this could have happened is if Marth made it all the way to the endgame of Shadow Dragon, then had Elice use the Aum Staff to resurrect everyone who he had sent to their deaths so he could unlock the side-chapters. Where did he get all of those Aum Staffs? Simple: GameShark.

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[[WMG:The next ''FE'' will use feudal Japan and assorted elements of Japanese myth and religion as the basis for its world and all respective classes.]]
Since ''Fire Emblem'' has a distinctly medieval flavor, it wouldn't be hard to interchange the widely European-inspired settings and classes with Japanese counterparts. For example, Samurai = Knight and/or Archer, Ninja = Thief and/or Assassin, Ronin = Mercenary, Shogun = General, and Miko = Shaman. Onmyoji and the male and female monks in various Buddhist sects would function as Mages, Monks, Priests, and Clerics. Other classes like Wyvern Rider, Dancer, and Manakete would only require minimal tweaks and so on and so forth. As a twist, the Myrmidon analogue would use Western sword techniques and resemble European knights, perhaps modeled after light cavalry like dragoons (sans the horses) to keep the archetype's stats in check.

[[WMG:Alternatively, the next game will have a {{Steampunk}} influence.]]
If only because this would allow for [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 Gun Mages]]. You'd essentially have a guy (or gal) like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Balthier]] or [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia Albus]] as a Unit on your side, [[RuleOfCool which would be the definition of "win."]]
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***Jossed. Both the Falchion and the Tyrfing appear in Awakening and it is clearly shown that they are not the same weapon.

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* Nils and Ninian refer to a Dragon Shrine, not explicitly the Ice Dragon Temple. However, the Ruins of Time area in Awakening is certainly draconic in nature, due to the presence of Naga's Tears, and presumably there is some unexplored suspicious property about it due to the appearance of the time-lost and partially amnesiac Morgan. It seems more likely that the other side of the Dragon's Gate is what eventually becomes known as the Ruins of Time instead of the Ice Dragon Temple, which when explored in [=FE3=] shows no indication that it was ever the other end of a dimensional portal.




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** New information from support conversations between Tiki and the Avatar in Awakening seems to imply that Marth and Sigurd are related. Perhaps at some point, one of Seliph's descendants traveled from Jugdral to Archaneia. As the dragon Holsety is both a staunch supporter of humanity and, in all probability, an Ice Dragon, it's not inconceivable that the Tyrfing was dropped off at the Ice Dragon Temple for a while before it was reforged from one of Naga's teeth.
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[[WMG: The upcoming crossover will involve aliens.]]
ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. Since this will be the first time the history of FireEmblem to involve ANY sort of science fiction elements, what better way to fit in with the tactical RPG gameplay of the series than by having the main kingdom being invaded by aliens from another planet and/or dimension. In this case, the aliens are using special interdimensional summoning technology to summon demons from the ShinMegamiTensei universe as their main foot soldiers. However, using this technology starts doing weird damage to the fabric of time and space, leading to all the main characters from both franchises coming together and eventually teaming up take down the singular threat.
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Chris is rather similar to Ike(though moreso to FE9 Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius(since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Akaneia, Jugdral and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.

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Chris is rather similar to Ike(though moreso to FE9 Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius(since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Akaneia, Archaneia, Jugdral and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.



[[WMG: The world behind the Dragon's Gate in [=FE7=] is in fact Akaneia, the continent of [=FE1=]/3/11.]]
The Dragon's Gate is on the same spot as the Ice Dragon Temple in [=FE3=]. Nils and Ninian also mention how men and dragons live there together, which applies to Akaneia as well.

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[[WMG: The world behind the Dragon's Gate in [=FE7=] is in fact Akaneia, Archaneia, the continent of [=FE1=]/3/11.]]
The Dragon's Gate is on the same spot as the Ice Dragon Temple in [=FE3=]. Nils and Ninian also mention how men and dragons live there together, which applies to Akaneia Archaneia as well.



** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Akaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul - not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.

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** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Akaneia, Archaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul - not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.



[[WMG: Athena is from a royal family in Akaneia.]]

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[[WMG: Athena is from a royal family in Akaneia.Archaneia.]]



It's pretty much confirmed at this point that Akaneia is the distant future of Jugdral. The two weapons resemble one another, so it's entirely possible that the two weapons are one and the same, but with different lore attached to it.

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It's pretty much confirmed at this point that Akaneia Archaneia is the distant future of Jugdral. The two weapons resemble one another, so it's entirely possible that the two weapons are one and the same, but with different lore attached to it.



While there is a similar theory already here, mine is more specifically about the continents themselves rather than the time. Wondering about things like planet size (because when you have multiple continents the size of Asia, it takes a larger planet than Earth to keep them from touching), would be somewhat of a handwave, but almost required in this theory; however, I digress. You COULD narrow it down to three continents, Akaneia being the same as Jugdral (though I will leave that debate in of itself open for discussion- who knows why WordOfGod would say that Jugdral took place thousands of years earlier?); leaving us with both Magvel and Elibe as the other two continents. While one must wonder why it takes the whole "Other World" concept of Awakening to reach characters from the other series, I think it has more to do with the major time differentials over anything else.

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While there is a similar theory already here, mine is more specifically about the continents themselves rather than the time. Wondering about things like planet size (because when you have multiple continents the size of Asia, it takes a larger planet than Earth to keep them from touching), would be somewhat of a handwave, but almost required in this theory; however, I digress. You COULD narrow it down to three continents, Akaneia Archaneia being the same as Jugdral (though I will leave that debate in of itself open for discussion- who knows why WordOfGod would say that Jugdral took place thousands of years earlier?); leaving us with both Magvel and Elibe as the other two continents. While one must wonder why it takes the whole "Other World" concept of Awakening to reach characters from the other series, I think it has more to do with the major time differentials over anything else.
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He really IS a good warrior, but his stats are lame compared to Hector's because he has a permanent rescue penalty.

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He really IS a good warrior, but his stats are lame compared to Hector's because he has a permanent rescue penalty.penalty.

[[WMG: Erk is Niime's grandson and Hugh's cousin.]]
That purple hair. He's a little too old to be Canas's kid, but Canas notes having several brothers, at least one of whom was probably older. But all those brothers ended up soulless husks due to Dark/Elder magic, and given Niime's special child raising practices, it's not too strange to imagine she might have shipped him off to study under Pent.
* For bonus crossover points, Lute from Sacred Stones is actually related to this family too.
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Think about it: he does very little actual fighting or real work, letting Lyn handle the bandits in Lyn's Tale. Despite that, he manages to come off as quite the hero, and all the records place him as indispensable to Nergal's defeat, and who knows? Maybe he really was, in [[TheGump the typical Flashman way.]] And if all the tactician-fics are any indication, he does a lot of unwarranted bragging, especially when it comes to nailing the chicks. All we need now is for some clever bastard to blackmail him into joining Eliwood's little warband, and it all fits together.

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Think about it: he does very little actual fighting or real work, letting Lyn handle the bandits in Lyn's Tale. Despite that, he manages to come off as quite the hero, and all the records place him as indispensable to Nergal's defeat, and who knows? Maybe he really was, in [[TheGump [[BeenThereShapedHistory the typical Flashman way.]] And if all the tactician-fics are any indication, he does a lot of unwarranted bragging, especially when it comes to nailing the chicks. All we need now is for some clever bastard to blackmail him into joining Eliwood's little warband, and it all fits together.
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Suppose Fomortiis, from within the Sacred Stone, manipulated the image the mages of Grado saw so that they saw the disaster as far worse than it would be. Knoll said that great events can send ripples through history. It's possible that some sort of temporal forced perspective happened, making the landslide seem to happen farther into the future, but much worse than it would be (A smaller but closer disturbance causing just as big ripples as larger, but more distant, disasters.) Thus, Fomortiis had his hand in the corruption of Lyon and the entire war even before Lyon began to bargain with him. [[TheChessmaster He made the disaster seem far worse]] in order to tempt Lyon into utilizing the dark powers within the stone, and thus facilitate his return.

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Suppose Fomortiis, from within the Sacred Stone, manipulated the image the mages of Grado saw so that they saw the disaster as far worse than it would be. Knoll said that great events can send ripples through history. It's possible that some sort of temporal forced perspective happened, making the landslide seem to happen farther into the future, but much worse than it would be (A smaller but closer disturbance causing just as big ripples as larger, but more distant, disasters.) Thus, Fomortiis had his hand in the corruption of Lyon and the entire war even before Lyon began to bargain with him. [[TheChessmaster He made the disaster seem far worse]] in order to tempt Lyon into utilizing the dark powers within the stone, and thus facilitate his return.return.

[[WMG: Eliwood's stats are usually bad because he's carrying the Tactician into battle.]]
He really IS a good warrior, but his stats are lame compared to Hector's because he has a permanent rescue penalty.

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[[WMG: Roy was named after Roland.]]
Or possibly, "Roy" is a nickname and "Roland" is his full name, kind of like "Lyn" was a nickname for "Lyndis."
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Take a look at [[http://www.serenesforest.net/general/relation.html this]] page. It shows a comparison between characters' appearences in Blazing Sword and Sword of Seals, which takes place 20 years later. Notice how Murdoch doesn't seem to have aged at all, while others like Eliwood, Hector and ''especially'' Zephiel look a ''lot'' older? Now look at the other two characters who don't appear to have aged: Sofiya and Fa. Notice anything? Yep, they're a half-dragon and full blooded dragon, respectively. Though that begs the question: if those two look so young yet are centuries old, [[Really700YearsOld just how old is Murdock??]]

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Take a look at [[http://www.serenesforest.net/general/relation.html this]] page. It shows a comparison between characters' appearences in Blazing Sword and Sword of Seals, which takes place 20 years later. Notice how Murdoch doesn't seem to have aged at all, while others like Eliwood, Hector and ''especially'' Zephiel look a ''lot'' older? Now look at the other two characters who don't appear to have aged: Sofiya and Fa. Notice anything? Yep, they're a half-dragon and full blooded dragon, respectively. Though that begs the question: if those two look so young yet are centuries old, [[Really700YearsOld just how old is Murdock??]]Murdock??]]

[[[WMG: The Demon King Fomortiis made the disaster that would strike Grado appear far worse than it really would be.]]
Lyon and the mages of Grado were using the power of the Grado Sacred Stone, which held the soul of the Demon King, to peer into the future. Within, they saw a massive earthquake that would destroy half of Grado. However, the epilogues mention a massive landslide that, while devastating, does not 'destroy half the country.' Many assume this is just a prelude to the real disaster, but what if it wasn't?

Suppose Fomortiis, from within the Sacred Stone, manipulated the image the mages of Grado saw so that they saw the disaster as far worse than it would be. Knoll said that great events can send ripples through history. It's possible that some sort of temporal forced perspective happened, making the landslide seem to happen farther into the future, but much worse than it would be (A smaller but closer disturbance causing just as big ripples as larger, but more distant, disasters.) Thus, Fomortiis had his hand in the corruption of Lyon and the entire war even before Lyon began to bargain with him. [[TheChessmaster He made the disaster seem far worse]] in order to tempt Lyon into utilizing the dark powers within the stone, and thus facilitate his return.
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[[WMG: Murdoch is [[HalfHumanHybrid half dragon]]]]
Take a look at [[http://www.serenesforest.net/general/relation.html this]] page. It shows a comparison between characters' appearences in Blazing Sword and Sword of Seals, which takes place 20 years later. Notice how Murdoch doesn't seem to have aged at all, while others like Eliwood, Hector and ''especially'' Zephiel look a ''lot'' older? Now look at the other two characters who don't appear to have aged: Sofiya and Fa. Notice anything? Yep, they're a half-dragon and full blooded dragon, respectively. Though that begs the question: if those two look so young yet are centuries old, [[Really700YearsOld just how old is Murdock??]]
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* I propose that Lilina's his sister. I mean, Oujay mentions in with his support with her (too?), and they look alike. On the other hand, Lilina's mother is mysteriously missing. None of Hector's endings even hint at a "canon" one, and if anything, Lyn's his love interest, despite it being a doomed romance. (She wanted to go back to Sacae, Hector had to run Ostia.) Maybe Hector just adopted.



Of course, if you fudge the timeline a bit, that means Sacred Stones takes place pretty close to the time of Awakening ([=FE13=]), if not a couple centuries earlier. Hm...

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Of course, if you fudge the timeline a bit, that means Sacred Stones takes place pretty close to the time of Awakening ([=FE13=]), if not a couple centuries earlier. Hm...
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Diadora is Lain, she in the manga wanted to be have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always, the dark dragon god Loptous knowing this, come back in her son, wanting her power(Omnipotence) atempted to kill her an stole her power, but she rewrited reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood,and erasing himself from the FE series(this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)

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Diadora is Lain, she in the manga wanted to be have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always, the dark dragon god Loptous knowing this, come back in her son, wanting her power(Omnipotence) atempted to kill her an stole her power, but she rewrited reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood,and erasing himself from the FE series(this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)Awakening)

[[WMG: Magvel ([=FE8=]) is Valencia ([=FE2=]), 1800 years later]]
No, really. Alm and Cellica's dynasty lasted for a thousand years, until the Demon King appeared and destroyed the united kingdom. He was stopped by five heroes and a dragon, getting sealed away for 800 years in five magic rocks.

Obviously, the two games have many similarities (zombies and other monsters running around, that green hair, etc.), but furthermore, compare the maps (which we so lovingly spend time traversing). Magvel is far more squished, but you could write that off as a matter of art style and function. Some locations can even be matched up.
* The old divide between Sofia and Rigel ran just above Fort Rigwald, through the mountains around Renais and probably caused the Hamill Canyon.
* The ruins in Jehanna might just be the ancient remains of Mila's Temple.
* The small wooded peninsula in the southwest is where Ram Village used to be.
* The island to the southeast is the former location of Nova Abbey, where Cellica studied.
* The island in the opposite corner, the northwest, used to be connected to the mainland; Frelia Castle below it seems to be built where the Rigel Castle used to be.
* Rausten is where the Sage Village used to be; the Black Temple just might be where the optional dungeon, Fear Shrine was.
* The large bay between Frelia and Rausten is where Doma Tower used to be; it seems to have just sunken into the sea completely.

But seriously, that blue-green hair. Ephraim and Eirika are practically required to be Alm's descendants.

Of course, if you fudge the timeline a bit, that means Sacred Stones takes place pretty close to the time of Awakening ([=FE13=]), if not a couple centuries earlier. Hm...
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Diadora is Lain, she in the manga wanted to be have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always, the dark dragon god Loptous knowing this, come back in her son, wanting her power(Omnipotence) atempted to kill her an stole her power, but she rewrited reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood,and erasing himself from the FE series(this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)and Alvis knowed this, realising her dream, but all gone terribly wrong.

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Diadora is Lain, she in the manga wanted to be have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always, the dark dragon god Loptous knowing this, come back in her son, wanting her power(Omnipotence) atempted to kill her an stole her power, but she rewrited reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood,and erasing himself from the FE series(this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)and Alvis knowed this, realising her dream, but all gone terribly wrong.Awakening)
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From all these factors, we can reasonably assume that the game designers originally intend Gale to be a recruitable unit but for whatever reason they decided to make him a mini-boss. If the game was to be remade, [[SparedByTheAdaptation he might even be recruitable in the remake]].

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From all these factors, we can reasonably assume that the game designers originally intend Gale to be a recruitable unit but for whatever reason they decided to make him a mini-boss. If the game was to be remade, [[SparedByTheAdaptation he might even be recruitable in the remake]].remake]].

[[WMG: The events in FEJugdral pass in Serial Experiments Lain.]]
Diadora is Lain, she in the manga wanted to be have a life like in a princess histories, but EVERTHING gone wrong to her as always, the dark dragon god Loptous knowing this, come back in her son, wanting her power(Omnipotence) atempted to kill her an stole her power, but she rewrited reality, granting to Yuria the sacred Naga blood,and erasing himself from the FE series(this doesn't go well, reason?, Fire Emblem Awakening)and Alvis knowed this, realising her dream, but all gone terribly wrong.
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:Jossed. Chris is...no one in particular in the grand scheme of things, while Mark is either [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Rufure]] or their child who is also called Mark.

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:Jossed.*Jossed. Chris is...no one in particular in the grand scheme of things, while Mark is either [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Rufure]] or their child who is also called Mark.
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:Jossed. Chris is...no one in particular in the grand scheme of things, while Mark is either [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Rufure]] or their child who is also called Mark.
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From all these factors, we can reasonably assume that the game designers originally intend Gale to be a recruitable unit but for whatever reason they decided to make him a mini-boss. If the game was to be remade, [[SparedByTheAdaptation he might even be recruitable in the remake]].

[[WMG:Everthing in fire emblem jugdral is a dying dream by Ishtar, Celice, Yurius and Yuria.]]
They are fighting against the Dragon tribe when instrumentality beginned, SEELE maked all to make a oran..err LCL pool.

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From all these factors, we can reasonably assume that the game designers originally intend Gale to be a recruitable unit but for whatever reason they decided to make him a mini-boss. If the game was to be remade, [[SparedByTheAdaptation he might even be recruitable in the remake]].

[[WMG:Everthing in fire emblem jugdral is a dying dream by Ishtar, Celice, Yurius and Yuria.]]
They are fighting against the Dragon tribe when instrumentality beginned, SEELE maked all to make a oran..err LCL pool.
remake]].
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They are dead and in purgatory,don't ask me how they died.Mind Screw, hahahahaha!

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They are dead and in purgatory,don't ask me how they died.Mind Screw, hahahahaha!fighting against the Dragon tribe when instrumentality beginned, SEELE maked all to make a oran..err LCL pool.

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[[WMG:Everthing in fire emblem jugdral is a dying dream by Ishtar, Celice, Yurius and Yuria.]]
They are dead and in purgatory,don't ask me how they died.Mind Screw, hahahahaha!

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Chris is rather similar to Ike(though moreso to FE9 Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius(since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Akaneia, Jugdral and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.

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Chris is rather similar to Ike(though moreso to FE9 Ike), and we never see Mark's face. Soren and Ike left Tellius, got split up, and now Ike is helping people out because that's just how he is, while Soren is partly trying to make himself a rep so he can get better answers from nobles and the like about Ike's whereabouts, partly repaying Lyn for saving his life. Would also explain why the Tactician/Mark doesn't do any more tactics after becoming known. As for the supposed sinking/flooding Yune/Ashunera caused, I think it's more likely it simply raised water levels around Tellius(since Ike seems to head for other continents at the end). This theory would put Tellius and Elibe in the same universe as Akaneia, Jugdral and Valencia. And I kind of already believe Magvel and Elibe to be part of the same universe.
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** Canon, except it's the INK on the page that's the catalyst for the spell. Breaking a Tome in Genealogy results in an "Empty Book", and in the OVA, you see the ink on Garnef's tome materialize into his spell.

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** Canon, except it's the INK on the page that's the catalyst for the spell. Breaking a Tome in Genealogy results in an "Empty Book", and in the OVA, you see the ink on Garnef's tome materialize into his spell.
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Five orbs in Marth's Shield, Five Stones for each of the main nations in Magvel. With the heavens sending the stones to Magvel, inter-world travel is possible. The Darksphere, more attuned to darkness, was the one used to seal away Fomortiis, but its dark energies allowed his soul to endure for 800 years. The Starsphere, increasing the stat potentials in Archanaea, was sealed at Renais, the nation of the high-potential Lord characters. The Geosphere, governing earth, goes to the desert wastes of Jehanna. The Lightsphere, counter to the Darksphere, was enshrined in the holy capital of the continent, Rausten. This leaves the Lifesphere to go to Frelia, because... Frelia provides a safe haven to provide safety for Eirika once Renais gets destroyed, perhaps?

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Five orbs in Marth's Shield, Five Stones for each of the main nations in Magvel. With the heavens sending the stones to Magvel, inter-world travel is possible. The Darksphere, more attuned to darkness, was the one used to seal away Fomortiis, but its dark energies allowed his soul to endure for 800 years. The Starsphere, increasing the stat potentials in Archanaea, was sealed at Renais, the nation of the high-potential Lord characters. The Geosphere, governing earth, goes to the desert wastes of Jehanna. The Lightsphere, counter to the Darksphere, was enshrined in the holy capital of the continent, Rausten. This leaves the Lifesphere to go to Frelia, because... Frelia provides a safe haven to provide safety for Eirika once Renais gets destroyed, perhaps?
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* Yeah. Thanks for removing any moral ambiguity from the Scouring by claiming the Fire Dragons, the main aggressors on the Dragon side, were just soulless weapons, and thus OK to kill, and the one Fire Dragon we see in all of the Elibe who isn't a War Dragon actually is not only a War Dragon, but also a liar who may have hidden the "true" reason for the conflict for shits and giggles. (which ignores the fact that Jahn spent most of the century after the Scouring recovering from his wounds. He only got enough strength to send Zephiel that hologram after Idenn's awakening recharged the Dragon Temple) A few (more) problems, if the creation of War Dragons predated Idenn, then that means the Dragons already had a means to make War Dragons, and thus would have no need for a Divine Dragon to have to transform into a Mage Dragon (Demon Dragon. Whatever.) Which would also mean that the Divine Dragons would have no reason to run from the other Dragons, [[{{ForWantOfANail}} and might even have sided with the other dragons instead of staying neutral.]] Also, Jahn didn't tell Zephiel about the Scouring, Zephiel looked it up himself and even knew somethings that Jahn didn't (such as how Hartmut sealed Idenn and why). All Jahn did was align himself with Zephiel because they had similar goals.
** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Akaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul - not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.
*** Except Jahn didn't feed Zephiel any story. Zephiel knew most of this himself. Jahn even admits that through his research, Zephiel knew some things that he didn't. Also, the story explictly states that they needed a Demon Dragon to make War Dragons. And if Jahn is a War Dragon, how can he think? How can he talk? The one named War Dragon we see is Ain, who can only say simple thoughts like "burn" or "die" and doesn't really show any signs of real intellegence at all. I feel that trying to argue that Jahn is a War Dragon that they made able to "think" based on a separate set of beings is really reaching. And Idenn was treated as the War Dragons "commander" anyway. As for why the Fire Dragon in FE7 is stronger than the other pure blood Fire Dragon, I'd just say GameplayStorySegregation. However, also note that Roy and his army were packing all of the Divine Weapons plus the Sword of Seals which surpassed them, while Eliwood and pals had 4.

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* Yeah. Thanks for removing any moral ambiguity from the Scouring by claiming the Fire Dragons, the main aggressors on the Dragon side, were just soulless weapons, and thus OK to kill, and the one Fire Dragon we see in all of the Elibe who isn't a War Dragon actually is not only a War Dragon, but also a liar who may have hidden the "true" reason for the conflict for shits and giggles. (which ignores the fact that Jahn spent most of the century after the Scouring recovering from his wounds. He only got enough strength to send Zephiel that hologram after Idenn's awakening recharged the Dragon Temple) A few (more) problems, if the creation of War Dragons predated Idenn, then that means the Dragons already had a means to make War Dragons, and thus would have no need for a Divine Dragon to have to transform into a Mage Dragon (Demon Dragon. Whatever.) Which would also mean that the Divine Dragons would have no reason to run from the other Dragons, [[{{ForWantOfANail}} [[ForWantOfANail and might even have sided with the other dragons instead of staying neutral.]] Also, Jahn didn't tell Zephiel about the Scouring, Zephiel looked it up himself and even knew somethings that Jahn didn't (such as how Hartmut sealed Idenn and why). All Jahn did was align himself with Zephiel because they had similar goals.
** Jahn merely being a War Dragon would explain why he goes down as easily as the generic dragons, when Athos, Eliwood and Hector combined could just barely beat a single Fire Dragon already weakened by Ninian... My impression was that Divine Dragons could create War Dragons. But the Divine Dragons did not want to participate in the war against the humans, so they refused to help the Fire Dragons. (If we follow the theory that Nils and Ninian's world is Akaneia, then these Divine Dragons could be the same group that protected the humans against the Earth Dragons in FE3's backstory). So the Fire Dragons captured Idoun and destroyed her soul - not to give her the power to create War Dragons, but so she would follow their commands. Jahn was created via the same method as the morphs, to be a commander of the war dragons/servant of the Fire Dragons. (Nergal first discovered how to manipulate quintessence from the dragons in Arcadia, so it's not such a stretch). After the Ending Winter, his job was to protect the Dark Dragon and wait for the age of the dragons to reappear. (The Fire Dragons may well have been wiped out, and like Idoun, Jahn is working on behalf of a long-dead master. Ironic...) When a human who had released the seal on Idoun, had some secondary source knowledge of the Scouring, and had a cynical viewpoint on humans appeared, Jahn fed him a story that would reinforce his view on humans.
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*** Except Jahn didn't feed Zephiel any story. Zephiel knew most of this himself. Jahn even admits that through his research, Zephiel knew some things that he didn't. Also, the story explictly states that they needed a Demon Dragon to make War Dragons. And if Jahn is a War Dragon, how can he think? How can he talk? The one named War Dragon we see is Ain, who can only say simple thoughts like "burn" or "die" and doesn't really show any signs of real intellegence at all. I feel that trying to argue that Jahn is a War Dragon that they made able to "think" based on a separate set of beings is really reaching. And Idenn was treated as the War Dragons "commander" anyway. As for why the Fire Dragon in FE7 is stronger than the other pure blood Fire Dragon, I'd just say GameplayStorySegregation. However, also note that Roy and his army were packing all of the Divine Weapons plus the Sword of Seals which surpassed them, while Eliwood and pals had 4.



** The Falchion was made from one of Narga's fanged teeth. Dragons have more than one tooth. Maybe they're sibling weapons.

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** The Falchion was made from one of Narga's fanged teeth. Dragons have more than one tooth. Maybe they're sibling weapons.
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** I'm not quite sure anymore, but I do vaguely believe that the German translation of the game did in fact refer to Brammimond as a female.

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** I'm not quite sure anymore, but I do vaguely believe that the German translation of the game did in fact refer to Brammimond as a female.
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Or seduced or blackmailed or something. WordOfGod states that Aimee and Larabel are the same person. This raises questions because she uses the name Larabel on a different continent but there is only one continent on Ike's planet. This means one of two things: 1. She is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld very old]], [[TimeAbyss old enough to live the great flood, the shifting of plate tectonics to create new land and or some seriously prolonged volcanic activity.]] 2. She is able to move between different worlds and or timelines somehow.

Given that technology is advancing on Tellius, this shows the planet is not in MedievalStasis and thus cannot be the same place as Marth's games. While not evil, Aimee's shown to have questionable ethics, charging you full price for her wares when even when the world is about to end. Aimee also doesn't hide her intentions to take Ike and his resistance would have failed if not for Soren's interference. Eventually, Aimee anticipated and got around Soren's meddling. They are on another planet or in another timeline now and left no trace, everyone else can only assume they fell over board on a fishing trip or something.

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Or seduced or blackmailed or something. WordOfGod states that Aimee and Larabel are the same person. This raises questions because she uses the name Larabel on a different continent but there is only one continent on Ike's planet. This means one of two things: 1. She is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld very old]], [[TimeAbyss old enough to live the great flood, the shifting of plate tectonics to create new land and or some seriously prolonged volcanic activity.]] 2. She is able to move between different worlds and or timelines somehow.

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Given that technology is advancing on Tellius, this shows the planet is not in MedievalStasis and thus cannot be the same place as Marth's games. While not evil, Aimee's shown to have questionable ethics, charging you full price for her wares when even when the world is about to end. Aimee also doesn't hide her intentions to take Ike and his resistance would have failed if not for Soren's interference. Eventually, Aimee anticipated and got around Soren's meddling. They are on another planet or in another timeline now and left no trace, everyone else can only assume they fell over board on a fishing trip or something.
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Think about it: he does very little actual fighting or real work, letting Lyn handle the bandits in Lyn's Tale. Despite that, he manages to come off as quite the hero, and all the records place him as indispensable to Nergal's defeat, and who knows? Maybe he really was, in [[TheGump the typical Flashman way.]] And if all the tactician-fics are any indication, he does a lot of unwarranted bragging, especially when it comes to nailing the chicks. All we need now is for some clever bastard to blackmail him into joining Eliwood's little warband, and it all fits together.

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Think about it: he does very little actual fighting or real work, letting Lyn handle the bandits in Lyn's Tale. Despite that, he manages to come off as quite the hero, and all the records place him as indispensable to Nergal's defeat, and who knows? Maybe he really was, in [[TheGump the typical Flashman way.]] And if all the tactician-fics are any indication, he does a lot of unwarranted bragging, especially when it comes to nailing the chicks. All we need now is for some clever bastard to blackmail him into joining Eliwood's little warband, and it all fits together.
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[[WMG: The Tactician from [[FireEmblemElibe FE7]] is one of the [[{{Warhammer40000}} lost Primarchs]]]]

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[[WMG: The Tactician from [[FireEmblemElibe FE7]] is one of the [[{{Warhammer40000}} [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} lost Primarchs]]]]



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From all these factors, we could reasonably assume that the game designers originally intend Gale to be a recruitable unit but for whatever reason they decided to make him a mini-boss. If the game was remade, [[SparedByTheAdaptation he might even be recruitable in the remake]].

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From all these factors, we could can reasonably assume that the game designers originally intend Gale to be a recruitable unit but for whatever reason they decided to make him a mini-boss. If the game was to be remade, [[SparedByTheAdaptation he might even be recruitable in the remake]].

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