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* There's gotta be ''something'' here. It's obvious that the common thread character for the entire saga is going to be Theresa, who is at the very least TrueNeutral if not ChaoticGood or NeutralGood. A character like that cannot abide such an obviously ChaoticEvil character as Reaver forever -- if you're going to call Theresa TrueNeutral, she's a "keeping the balance" sort, and someone with as much power and as much potential for evil as Reaver is eventually going to singlehandedly upset this balance. If she's Something Good, you don't even need that much justification. Also, you can make a (relatively weak, imo) argument for Reaver as ''extreme'' ChaoticNeutral, but even if that is the closest thing to his "real" alignment, we see him commit much more corruption and evil than good, so it's clear he'll end up upsetting the aforementioned balance anyway or, if he has a HeelFaceTurn of some kind, still have the [[MemeticMutation reputation as an evil man]] that will still make this seem necessary.
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* There's gotta be ''something'' here. It's obvious that the common thread character for the entire saga is going to be Theresa, who is at the very least TrueNeutral if not ChaoticGood or NeutralGood. A character like that cannot abide such an obviously ChaoticEvil evil character as Reaver forever -- if you're going to call Theresa TrueNeutral, she's a "keeping the balance" sort, and someone with as much power and as much potential for evil as Reaver is eventually going to singlehandedly upset this balance. If she's Something Good, you don't even need that much justification. Also, you can make a (relatively weak, imo) argument for Reaver as ''extreme'' ChaoticNeutral, but even if that is the closest thing to his "real" alignment, we see him commit much more corruption and evil than good, so it's clear he'll end up upsetting the aforementioned balance anyway or, if he has a HeelFaceTurn of some kind, still have the [[MemeticMutation reputation as an evil man]] that will still make this seem necessary.
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* Jossed.
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This is borderline CaptainObvious, but should probably be stated anyway since its not been officially declared..
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This is borderline CaptainObvious, but should probably be stated anyway since its not been officially declared..
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[[WMG: Jack of Blades planned to possess the Hero of Oakvale all along]]
Everything he did from the beginning was both to get the Sword of Aeons, and to cultivate the Hero to become his new vessel - because with both the Sword and the immense power in the Hero's body, he'd be absolutely unstoppable. Thus, the pure evil ending works out perfectly for him, exactly as he planned all along.
Everything he did from the beginning was both to get the Sword of Aeons, and to cultivate the Hero to become his new vessel - because with both the Sword and the immense power in the Hero's body, he'd be absolutely unstoppable. Thus, the pure evil ending works out perfectly for him, exactly as he planned all along.
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**Interesting enough the original design for See the Futures Snowglobe section was going to be the same monochrome look but set in the original Oakvale from Fable 1, immediately before the events of the start of Fable 1. It was going to have everyone end up in their positions for the start of Fable 1 it was also going to reveal that it was Theresa who unlocked the gate to let the bandits in, so that it would trigger the Fable 1 player character to become a hero to stop Jack.
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* Or she's Albion's [[IronChef Chairman Kaga]], planning to open a Kitchen Stadium, and "speed pie crust rolling" is the competition she's using to choose her Iron Chefs. The huge pay is to encourage the best chefs in Albion to leave their jobs and give it a try.
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* Or she's Albion's [[IronChef [[Series/IronChef Chairman Kaga]], planning to open a Kitchen Stadium, and "speed pie crust rolling" is the competition she's using to choose her Iron Chefs. The huge pay is to encourage the best chefs in Albion to leave their jobs and give it a try.
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As put on the main page on the first game, RapidAging happens every time you gain a level. The leveling up process is a way of quickly gaining skills faster for heroes and arguably more efficiently, but the only negative side effect is that it drains you several years during the process of learning several skills. So, this probably means that if one is not careful, they may wind up killing themselves by accident when wanting to become stronger in one or more skills.
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As put on the main page on the first game, RapidAging happens every time you gain a level. The leveling up process is a way of quickly gaining skills faster for heroes and arguably more efficiently, but the only negative side effect is that it drains you several years during the process of learning several skills. So, this probably means that if one is not careful, they may wind up killing themselves by accident when wanting to become stronger in one or more skills.skills.
[[WMG: Sparrow [[spoiler: or Rose]] killed Max & Sam Spade.]]
Their last act alive is to summon a Queen Banshee. That one enemy who is just as vicious to Sparrow and Rose as Lucian is. Sparrow can keep quiet about what they've done, but they have clearly shown that they are dangerous. Too dangerous to live? Who is to say s/he wouldn't think ItsPersonal and was behind their deaths? Or if Sparrow couldn't go through with it and s/he resurrects Rose (doing so implies they end up reunited,) well she's a BullyHunter and not exactly pure, she'd likely be up to the task of bumping off a couple of fools.
[[WMG: Sparrow [[spoiler: or Rose]] killed Max & Sam Spade.]]
Their last act alive is to summon a Queen Banshee. That one enemy who is just as vicious to Sparrow and Rose as Lucian is. Sparrow can keep quiet about what they've done, but they have clearly shown that they are dangerous. Too dangerous to live? Who is to say s/he wouldn't think ItsPersonal and was behind their deaths? Or if Sparrow couldn't go through with it and s/he resurrects Rose (doing so implies they end up reunited,) well she's a BullyHunter and not exactly pure, she'd likely be up to the task of bumping off a couple of fools.
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[[WMG: Theresa's plan, in full]]
So, this is just me taking a load of coincidences and stringing them together into a theory, but I love it anyway, so here we go. Young Theresa learns from Scythe about the Corruption and how it's buried away in Aurora. We can presuppose some sort of collaboration between them because Theresa sends Rose to be with Scythe if you resurrect her at the end of ''Fable II''. Him telling her makes more sense than her foreseeing it because it explains how she knows its origins and such. She decides she can't let it destroy Albion, so she decides she needs to be in a position to know and therefore manipulate all variables in regards to the Corruption's return, so she sets about rebuilding the Spire to give her the power to see all possible futures.
In ''Fable II'', she arranges for the death of Lucien's family, then appears in his dreams to push him toward rebuilding the Spire and ensures all four Heroes she needs to power it up and take control of it have grievances against Lucien so they'll help her stop him from using it in time for her to step in as its new owner. Then, in ''Fable III'', she guides the protagonist toward defeating the Corruption, or so she thinks. Perhaps mistaking the Crawler for the leader of the Corruption, rather than a lieutenant of the leader, she leaves the Spire after his defeat and is subsequently blindsided by an attack from the Devourer, leading to the events of ''Fable: The Journey''.
That game sees through the destruction of the Corruptor's other lieutenants, and a final wish from Theresa. But what could that wish be? It doesn't have to be the destruction of the Corruption, because the Corruption only has power in Albion as long as the Spire exists, and the Spire is destroyed at the end of ''Fable: The Journey''. So what is her actual wish?
To go back in time and become the leader of the Shadow Court.
Some have already observed that the leader of the Shadow Court has Theresa's character model rendered as a shadow being. But there are lots of other connections. The Shadow Court is located where you first meet Theresa in ''Fable''. One of the distinctive enemies in Wraithmarsh, where the Court hold sway, are banshees, which look like Theresa and even cover their eyes as if blind. The little minions they send out are pig-tailed little girls, like Theresa as a child in Oakvale. But why would she want to do such a thing?
Because only through the existence of the Shadow Court can her plan succeed. Because if the Shadow Court don't destroy Oakvale to make Reaver immortal, he can't be the Hero of Skill in ''Fable II'' and therefore she can't acquire the Spire. So she goes back in time, establishes or joins the Shadow Court and maybe even uses her personal knowledge of Reaver, as a resident of her hometown, to entice him towards the Shadow Court, make the wish and ensure a StableTimeLoop that ends with the defeat of the Corruption.
So, this is just me taking a load of coincidences and stringing them together into a theory, but I love it anyway, so here we go. Young Theresa learns from Scythe about the Corruption and how it's buried away in Aurora. We can presuppose some sort of collaboration between them because Theresa sends Rose to be with Scythe if you resurrect her at the end of ''Fable II''. Him telling her makes more sense than her foreseeing it because it explains how she knows its origins and such. She decides she can't let it destroy Albion, so she decides she needs to be in a position to know and therefore manipulate all variables in regards to the Corruption's return, so she sets about rebuilding the Spire to give her the power to see all possible futures.
In ''Fable II'', she arranges for the death of Lucien's family, then appears in his dreams to push him toward rebuilding the Spire and ensures all four Heroes she needs to power it up and take control of it have grievances against Lucien so they'll help her stop him from using it in time for her to step in as its new owner. Then, in ''Fable III'', she guides the protagonist toward defeating the Corruption, or so she thinks. Perhaps mistaking the Crawler for the leader of the Corruption, rather than a lieutenant of the leader, she leaves the Spire after his defeat and is subsequently blindsided by an attack from the Devourer, leading to the events of ''Fable: The Journey''.
That game sees through the destruction of the Corruptor's other lieutenants, and a final wish from Theresa. But what could that wish be? It doesn't have to be the destruction of the Corruption, because the Corruption only has power in Albion as long as the Spire exists, and the Spire is destroyed at the end of ''Fable: The Journey''. So what is her actual wish?
To go back in time and become the leader of the Shadow Court.
Some have already observed that the leader of the Shadow Court has Theresa's character model rendered as a shadow being. But there are lots of other connections. The Shadow Court is located where you first meet Theresa in ''Fable''. One of the distinctive enemies in Wraithmarsh, where the Court hold sway, are banshees, which look like Theresa and even cover their eyes as if blind. The little minions they send out are pig-tailed little girls, like Theresa as a child in Oakvale. But why would she want to do such a thing?
Because only through the existence of the Shadow Court can her plan succeed. Because if the Shadow Court don't destroy Oakvale to make Reaver immortal, he can't be the Hero of Skill in ''Fable II'' and therefore she can't acquire the Spire. So she goes back in time, establishes or joins the Shadow Court and maybe even uses her personal knowledge of Reaver, as a resident of her hometown, to entice him towards the Shadow Court, make the wish and ensure a StableTimeLoop that ends with the defeat of the Corruption.
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Now, obviously this is a bit of a stretch, but upon playing Fable Anniversary, I noticed there were no guards laying among the pile of bodies in the raid on Oakvale. Given that Jack of Blades seemed to know where to go when looking for Scarlet Robe, Theresa, and the Hero of Oakvale, it is entirely possible that Jack had planted several guards from Bargate Prison into Oakvale as a means of searching for those of the Archon Bloodline.
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Now, obviously this is a bit of a stretch, but upon playing Fable Anniversary, I noticed there were no guards laying among the pile of bodies in the raid on Oakvale. Given that Jack of Blades seemed to know where to go when looking for Scarlet Robe, Theresa, and the Hero of Oakvale, it is entirely possible that Jack had planted several guards from Bargate Prison into Oakvale as a means of searching for those of the Archon Bloodline.Bloodline.
[[WMG: Leveling up (In at least the first game) speeds up the heroes' life.]]
As put on the main page on the first game, RapidAging happens every time you gain a level. The leveling up process is a way of quickly gaining skills faster for heroes and arguably more efficiently, but the only negative side effect is that it drains you several years during the process of learning several skills. So, this probably means that if one is not careful, they may wind up killing themselves by accident when wanting to become stronger in one or more skills.
[[WMG: Leveling up (In at least the first game) speeds up the heroes' life.]]
As put on the main page on the first game, RapidAging happens every time you gain a level. The leveling up process is a way of quickly gaining skills faster for heroes and arguably more efficiently, but the only negative side effect is that it drains you several years during the process of learning several skills. So, this probably means that if one is not careful, they may wind up killing themselves by accident when wanting to become stronger in one or more skills.
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Think about it: Why would Lionhead decide to create from scratch another country, Aurora, to help out the Hero in Fable 3, when he could have sent us to Samarkand, or to the Northern lands where Hammer went, two places that players would love to see included in the games? Well, to make them the main regions of the next game(s)! Considering that pretty soon, Albion will end up in the modern age or at least WW1 era technology if we even just jump 50 years each games, a logical solution would be to set them ''somewhere else''.
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Think about it: Why would Lionhead decide to create from scratch another country, Aurora, to help out the Hero in Fable 3, when he could have sent us to Samarkand, or to the Northern lands where Hammer went, two places that players would love to see included in the games? Well, to make them the main regions of the next game(s)! Considering that pretty soon, Albion will end up in the modern age or at least WW1 UsefulNotes/WW1 era technology if we even just jump 50 years each games, a logical solution would be to set them ''somewhere else''.
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Logan was born during the events of the second game and was killed by Lucien.
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Logan was born during the events of the second game and was killed by Lucien.Lucien.
[[WMG: The guards in Oakvale in the beginning of Fable TLC were actually Bargate Prison Guards]]
Now, obviously this is a bit of a stretch, but upon playing Fable Anniversary, I noticed there were no guards laying among the pile of bodies in the raid on Oakvale. Given that Jack of Blades seemed to know where to go when looking for Scarlet Robe, Theresa, and the Hero of Oakvale, it is entirely possible that Jack had planted several guards from Bargate Prison into Oakvale as a means of searching for those of the Archon Bloodline.
[[WMG: The guards in Oakvale in the beginning of Fable TLC were actually Bargate Prison Guards]]
Now, obviously this is a bit of a stretch, but upon playing Fable Anniversary, I noticed there were no guards laying among the pile of bodies in the raid on Oakvale. Given that Jack of Blades seemed to know where to go when looking for Scarlet Robe, Theresa, and the Hero of Oakvale, it is entirely possible that Jack had planted several guards from Bargate Prison into Oakvale as a means of searching for those of the Archon Bloodline.
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In the original Fable; one could get the Sword of Aeons by Character Saving but not Game Saving. Then one could redo the mission and destroy the Sword of Aeons...with the Sword of Aeons copy that you have. This is ''not'' GameplayAndStorySegregation. SaveScumming was an actual spell the Hero of Oakdale could do. And he did "temporarily" killed his sister for the sword. However, the Sword of Aeons was too important; and the Timeline corrected itself, (except for one stain-glass window Theresa commissioned) and turned the displaced "sword energy" into Avo's Tear. (This displaced energy also depowered the Sword of Aeons in any timelines the hero chose to kill Teresa permanently, hence it being less powerful in the Lost Chapters.)
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In the original Fable; one could get the Sword of Aeons by Character Saving but not Game Saving. Then one could redo the mission and destroy the Sword of Aeons...with the Sword of Aeons copy that you have. This is ''not'' GameplayAndStorySegregation. SaveScumming was an actual spell the Hero of Oakdale could do. And he did "temporarily" killed kill his sister for the sword. However, the Sword of Aeons was too important; and the Timeline corrected itself, (except for one stain-glass window Theresa commissioned) and turned the displaced "sword energy" into Avo's Tear. (This displaced energy also depowered the Sword of Aeons in any timelines the hero chose to kill Teresa permanently, hence it being less powerful in the Lost Chapters.)
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[[WMG: The person looking after Rose in the Love ending is the hero form Fable I]]
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[[WMG: The person looking after Rose in the Love ending is the hero form from Fable I]]
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* NightmareFuel. Teresa is a Seer who can see other timelines. ''She knows he did this.'' Hence her getting the hell away from him even in the "good" timeline; and subjecting later Heroes through possibly unnecessary trials.
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* NightmareFuel. Teresa Theresa is a Seer who can see other timelines. ''She knows he did this.'' Hence her getting the hell away from him even in the "good" timeline; and subjecting later Heroes through possibly unnecessary trials.
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In the original Fable; one could get the Sword of Aeons by Character Saving but not Game Saving. Then one could redo the mission and destroy the Sword of Aeons...with the Sword of Aeons copy that you have. This is ''not'' GameplayAndStorySegregation. SaveScumming was an actual spell the Hero of Oakdale could do. And he did "temporarily" killed his sister for the sword. However, the Sword of Aeons was too important; and the Timeline corrected itself, (except for one stain-glass window Teresa commissioned) and turned the displaced "sword energy" into Avo's Tear. (This displaced energy also depowered the Sword of Aeons in any timelines the hero chose to kill Teresa permanently, hence it being less powerful in the Lost Chapters.)
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In the original Fable; one could get the Sword of Aeons by Character Saving but not Game Saving. Then one could redo the mission and destroy the Sword of Aeons...with the Sword of Aeons copy that you have. This is ''not'' GameplayAndStorySegregation. SaveScumming was an actual spell the Hero of Oakdale could do. And he did "temporarily" killed his sister for the sword. However, the Sword of Aeons was too important; and the Timeline corrected itself, (except for one stain-glass window Teresa Theresa commissioned) and turned the displaced "sword energy" into Avo's Tear. (This displaced energy also depowered the Sword of Aeons in any timelines the hero chose to kill Teresa permanently, hence it being less powerful in the Lost Chapters.)
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[[WMG: The Hero of Oakdale save-scummed killing Teresa and getting the Sword of Aeons, and then reversed it.]]
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[[WMG: The Hero of Oakdale save-scummed killing Teresa Theresa and getting the Sword of Aeons, and then reversed it.]]
