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[[WMG: Charlie is not from Stupidworld, but he has ''been'' to Stupidworld]]
Charlie is familiar with a number of concepts of Stupidworld, and some suggest he has personally experienced them. However, he also seems to do things that suggest an intimate familiarity with Erfworld. Therefore, rather than assume he's a Stupidworlder gone native, he's actually an Erfwordler that has been elsewhere. How he got there is a mystery, but a Carnymancer can break the rules.
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* If this is true, Charlie's true form had better look like [[TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey HAL.]]

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* If this is true, Charlie's true form had better look like [[TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey [[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey HAL.]]
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[[WMG: Charlie's real appearance will be based on [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Charles Xavier]]]]

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[[WMG: Charlie's real appearance will be based on [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} [[ComicBook/XMen Charles Xavier]]]]
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[[WMG: Charlie's guns are real.]]
As in, they were made in and came from Stupidworld. We've seen that Erfworlders have a natural understanding of Earth concepts, like the words year and kill. So the reason the guns Charlie had were self-specialed to let anyone use them is they are from Earth. Parson, whose also from Earth, doesn't know how to use the guns which distinguishes him from everyone else (all Erfworlders) who can. Ace can reproduce the guns and bullets, but can't make them self-specialed because the rifles are no longer from Earth.
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* This one is kind of jossed kind of confirmed? Peace Through Superior Firepower showed that Charlie's personality changed dramatically after attuning to the dish. This suggests that the Arkentools can normally alter their wielder's personality to match their own, so presumably this didn't happen with Wanda because her personality already fit. This may have happened for Stanley or he may have always been like that.

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* This one is kind of jossed {{Jossed}} kind of confirmed? Peace Through Superior Firepower showed that Charlie's personality changed dramatically after attuning to the dish. This suggests that the Arkentools can normally alter their wielder's personality to match their own, so presumably this didn't happen with Wanda because her personality already fit. This may have happened for Stanley or he may have always been like that.



* Faq wasn't Wanda's original home, Faq was betrayed by Wanda, and Faq was destroyed by Stanley and her home was destroyed by Olive Branch who isn't in any way related to Ansom, jossing all aspects of this.

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* Faq wasn't Wanda's original home, Faq was betrayed by Wanda, and Faq was destroyed by Stanley and her home was destroyed by Olive Branch who isn't in any way related to Ansom, jossing [[{{Jossed}} jossing]] all aspects of this.



* Sorry, not fourth, but fifth. The Arkenshoes are in. So yes, this will be fifth if it isn't jossedificated.

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* Sorry, not fourth, but fifth. The Arkenshoes are in. So yes, this will be fifth if it isn't jossedificated.
[[{{Jossed}} jossedificated.]]



* Jossed - As of Book 3 Page 17, Charlie admits to having allied with the gobwins.

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* Jossed {{Jossed}} - As of Book 3 Page 17, Charlie admits to having allied with the gobwins.



* Seemly Jossed. He's a caster and had to be popped in a city. There is no indication that natural allies can produce casters.

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* Seemly Jossed.{{Jossed}}. He's a caster and had to be popped in a city. There is no indication that natural allies can produce casters.



* Jossed - the fourth tool were the Arkenshoes.

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* Jossed {{Jossed}} - the fourth tool were the Arkenshoes.



* Jossed/confirmed. While Charlie did use to occupy El-Efbaum, he wasn't running mercenary missions from it, being much more pacifistic and insular at the time.

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* Jossed/confirmed.{{Jossed}}/confirmed. While Charlie did use to occupy El-Efbaum, he wasn't running mercenary missions from it, being much more pacifistic and insular at the time.



* Jossed: [[http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/144 Charlie confirmed the fact that he's a Carnymancer.]]

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* Jossed: {{Jossed}}: [[http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/144 Charlie confirmed the fact that he's a Carnymancer.]]
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* Faq wasn't Wanda's original home, Faq was betrayed by Wanda, and Faq was destroyed by Stanley, jossing all aspects of this.

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* Faq wasn't Wanda's original home, Faq was betrayed by Wanda, and Faq was destroyed by Stanley, Stanley and her home was destroyed by Olive Branch who isn't in any way related to Ansom, jossing all aspects of this.
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* [[strike: Seems to be]] confirmed with the latest comic.

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* [[strike: Seems to be]] confirmed Confirmed with the latest comic.
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In ''Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower)'' there are numerous references to the ''Wizard of Oz'' such as the Emerald City and the road made of yellow bricks that led to it. Those that read ''Inner Peace'' know that Charlei was once the leader of the side that ruled the Emerald City, and took the title of "Wizard". Those that have watched the Wizard of Oz know that [[spoiler: the wizard is a fraud from Kansas]]. This implies that Charlie is also [[spoiler: a fraud from Kansas]], and therefor not a caster

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In ''Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower)'' there are numerous references to the ''Wizard of Oz'' such as the Emerald City and the road made of yellow bricks that led to it. Those that read ''Inner Peace'' know that Charlei Charlie was once the leader of the side that ruled the Emerald City, and took the title of "Wizard". Those that have watched the Wizard of Oz know that [[spoiler: the wizard is a fraud from Kansas]]. This implies that Charlie is also [[spoiler: a fraud from Kansas]], and therefor not a caster




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* Jossed: [[http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/144 Charlie confirmed the fact that he's a Carnymancer.]]
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* Corollary: It has never been confirmed who started the rebellion that killed King Saline. Everyone assumes that Stanley did it, but there's a problem with the theory. King Saline loved and trusted Stanley and Stanley, though he was not a royal, was part of King Saline's clan, the Plaids. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that Stanley had the hobogobwins kill King Saline IV, but we have no real evidence of it. We did have real evidence that Stanley destroyed Faq and got some spell-casters out of the deal, but maybe he did that for Saline. Furthermore, we know Stanley has a deep seeded hatred of Charley that was never explained. Lastly, Stanley wasn't ready to rule as shown by his troubles as Overlord. Perhaps Charley had King Saline IV killed in order to weaken the kingdom so that he could get the Arkenhammer. After all, we know from Charley's dealings with Parson in the first book that Charley wouldn't have minded getting the Arkenpliers. All Stanley would have to do to find this out is beat the crap (interrogate) out of the hobogobwin(s) that killed Saline to figure out who put him(them) up to it. That is beyond Charley's abilities and it matches his style. This would also explain why Stanley hates him if Stanley really did care for his King (he was already heir, why speed up the process?) - Tropers/{{Thecommander236}}

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* Corollary: It has never been confirmed who started the rebellion that killed King Saline. Everyone assumes that Stanley did it, but there's a problem with the theory. King Saline loved and trusted Stanley and Stanley, though he was not a royal, was part of King Saline's clan, the Plaids. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that Stanley had the hobogobwins kill King Saline IV, but we have no real evidence of it. We did have real evidence that Stanley destroyed Faq and got some spell-casters out of the deal, but maybe he did that for Saline. Furthermore, we know Stanley has a deep seeded hatred of Charley Charlie that was never explained. Lastly, Stanley wasn't ready to rule as shown by his troubles as Overlord. Perhaps Charley Charlie had King Saline IV killed in order to weaken the kingdom so that he could get the Arkenhammer. After all, we know from Charley's Charlie's dealings with Parson in the first book that Charley Charlie wouldn't have minded getting the Arkenpliers. All Stanley would have to do to find this out is beat the crap (interrogate) out of the hobogobwin(s) that killed Saline to figure out who put him(them) up to it. That is beyond Charley's Charlie's abilities and it matches his style. This would also explain why Stanley hates him if Stanley really did care for his King (he was already heir, why speed up the process?) - Tropers/{{Thecommander236}}
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** Partially {{Jossed}}: Parson has turned back to Gobwin King. However, it is possible that his turning back was possible due to his Disbanding immunity. Charlie had threatened Parson with Disbanding to avoid Decryption, he would've definitely tried to disband him after the Tripod Blunder.

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** * Partially {{Jossed}}: Parson has turned back to Gobwin King. However, it is possible that his turning back was possible due to his Disbanding immunity. Charlie had threatened Parson with Disbanding to avoid Decryption, he would've definitely tried to disband him after the Tripod Blunder.
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** Partially {{Jossed}}: Parson has turned back to Gobwin King. However, it is possible that his turning back was possible due to his Disbanding immunity. Charlie had threatened Parson with Disbanding to avoid Decryption, he would've definitely tried to disband him after the Tripod Blunder.
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** And the latest story reveals his signamancy is actually that of [[Peanuts CHARLIE BROWN]]. Which, given his whole 'fated to fail' thing, we really should have seen coming.

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** And the latest story reveals his signamancy is actually that of [[Peanuts [[{{Peanuts}} CHARLIE BROWN]]. Which, given his whole 'fated to fail' thing, we really should have seen coming.
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** And the latest story reveals his signamancy is actually that of [[Peanuts CHARLIE BROWN]]. Which, given his whole 'fated to fail' thing, we really should have seen coming.
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[[WMG: Parson's being immune to Disbanding will be a CheckovsSkill]]

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[[WMG: Parson's being immune to Disbanding will be a CheckovsSkill]]ChekhovsSkill]]




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** In the latest story arc it's STRONGLY implied that he finally pissed Stanley off enough to make him try to disband him only to find that he couldn't. So there's that...
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[[WMG: Parson's being immune to Disbanding will be a CheckovsSkill]]
But not for betraying Stanley. Now that he's turned to Charlescom, he can call all SORTS of problems for Charlie and Charlie can't do a thing about it.
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* That would make alot of sense, but they can only do that if he truly considers Erfworld 'home'.
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... So he can attune with the Arkenshoes and return them (and himself) to Erfworld. If the Arkenshoes can take someone from Erfworld to Stupidworld, then they can do the reverse as well.

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... So he can [[spoiler: attune with the Arkenshoes Arkenshoes]] and return them (and himself) to Erfworld. If [[spoiler: the Arkenshoes Arkenshoes]] can take someone from Erfworld to Stupidworld, then they can do the reverse as well.
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I\'m surprized no one put this down yet...

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[[WMG: Parson will return to Stupidworld]]
... So he can attune with the Arkenshoes and return them (and himself) to Erfworld. If the Arkenshoes can take someone from Erfworld to Stupidworld, then they can do the reverse as well.
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Book 0 mentioned that Charlie payed a terrible price to avoid croaking from Olive's poison. Also he had to forgo all his heroine buds for the Deal of the Lifetime with Jillian. In spirit of Carnymancy, perhaps he let his body die, while he uploads his consciousness to the Arkendish. This allows him to not die, but he can't fulfill the Tool prophecy, so Fate wants him gone. Or perhaps, he learned that uniting the tools will cause the bearers to die. And thus Parson was summoned to kill him.

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Book 0 mentioned that Charlie payed paid a terrible price to avoid croaking from Olive's poison. Also he had to forgo all his heroine buds for the Deal of the Lifetime with Jillian. In spirit of Carnymancy, perhaps he let his body die, while he uploads his consciousness to the Arkendish. This allows him to not die, but he can't fulfill the Tool prophecy, so Fate wants him gone. Or perhaps, he learned that uniting the tools will cause the bearers to die. And thus Parson was summoned to kill him.
* {{Jossed}}. We can see Charlie's hand during Lilith's return to Charlescomm, so he clearly has a body outside the 'Dish. However, his voice in realspace is rendered as much more frail than his voice in Thinkspace.

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Confirming and jossing a few things


*Jossed - As of Book 3 Page 17, Charlie admits to having allied with the gobwins.



*Jossed - the fourth tool were the Arkenshoes.



* Apparently confirmed.

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*Jossed/confirmed. While Charlie did use to occupy El-Efbaum, he wasn't running mercenary missions from it, being much more pacifistic and insular at the time.
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**Caesar Borgata's probably closer to Cesare Borgia than Julius Caesar, so if deaths can be predicted by punning people's names he's probably more likely to be slain in battle after murdering Don in an attempt to take control of Transylvito.
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* Keep in mind that the Humbug Wizard of Oz became a real one after training with Glinda. Charlie himself may or may not be a "true" caster, but his explanation of the Carnymancy/Weirdomancy scroll pretty much confirms that he has access to Carnymancy one way or the other. As to the Magic Kingdom being hostile, that only applies to the Great Minds, to whom he is a threat because of the Arkendish. He is as mysterious to the Magic Kingdom as he is to everyone else. They have no idea whether he's a caster, a warlord, or a talking frog.
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[[WMG: Charlie is from Stupidworld]]
His Carnymancy is the result of an Artifact similar to Parson's Mathamancy bracer.
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[[http://www.erfworld.com/book-2-archive/?px=%2F2010-03-26.png This]] shows that he ''does'' have a mind for tactics, or at least planning ahead in the event of the unexpected. So a few ways of [[FanWank explaining]] his luck based survival throughout the first chapter are:

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[[http://www.[[http://archives.erfworld.com/book-2-archive/?px=%2F2010-03-26.png com/Book%202/72 This]] shows that he ''does'' have a mind for tactics, or at least planning ahead in the event of the unexpected. So a few ways of [[FanWank explaining]] his luck based survival throughout the first chapter are:



For instance, to elaborate on [[http://www.erfworld.com/summer-update-2009-archive/?px=%2FE036_TheMutant_jackcomic.png how farms work]], whenever a war-world pig "depops," it's actually teleported to a "food preparation" or "service industry" world that handles butchering pigs. They butcher the pig, and the pork is teleported to the larder of whichever side originally owned the pig. The Schmuckers that the war-world side paid for the butchering is actually paid to the unit/side/corporation/whatever that butchered the pig in food-prep-world.

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For instance, to elaborate on [[http://www.[[http://archives.erfworld.com/summer-update-2009-archive/?px=%2FE036_TheMutant_jackcomic.png com/Book%202/15 how farms work]], whenever a war-world pig "depops," it's actually teleported to a "food preparation" or "service industry" world that handles butchering pigs. They butcher the pig, and the pork is teleported to the larder of whichever side originally owned the pig. The Schmuckers that the war-world side paid for the butchering is actually paid to the unit/side/corporation/whatever that butchered the pig in food-prep-world.
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Another Charlie theory: He ain\'t a caster

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[[WMG: Charlie is neither a Carnymancer nor a Foolermancer; he isn't even a caster]]
To all those claiming he is a carnymancer or a foolamancer; you are delusional. Charlie has never confirmed nor denied these facts. Now here is why I believe he isn't a caster at all:

In ''Inner Peace (Through Superior Firepower)'' there are numerous references to the ''Wizard of Oz'' such as the Emerald City and the road made of yellow bricks that led to it. Those that read ''Inner Peace'' know that Charlei was once the leader of the side that ruled the Emerald City, and took the title of "Wizard". Those that have watched the Wizard of Oz know that [[spoiler: the wizard is a fraud from Kansas]]. This implies that Charlie is also [[spoiler: a fraud from Kansas]], and therefor not a caster

Charlie not being a caster would explain why the Magic Kingdom is so hostile to him. Who would trust a man from Kansas?
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In order to promote the insanity, the wiki has a link to this page. In order to promote even more, I have placed this link here where everyone can see it. =

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Note: [[https://wiki.erfworld.com/Epileptic_Twees Some theories can be found on the Erfworld wiki.]]
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[[WMG: Charlie is inside the Arkendish]]
Book 0 mentioned that Charlie payed a terrible price to avoid croaking from Olive's poison. Also he had to forgo all his heroine buds for the Deal of the Lifetime with Jillian. In spirit of Carnymancy, perhaps he let his body die, while he uploads his consciousness to the Arkendish. This allows him to not die, but he can't fulfill the Tool prophecy, so Fate wants him gone. Or perhaps, he learned that uniting the tools will cause the bearers to die. And thus Parson was summoned to kill him.
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** That would imply that she was from a different period of time as well as a different universe. The original book was written in 1900 and the movie was made in 1936. There's no way any of the characters are 60 to 70 years of age by Earth standards. She would literally need to be sent to a different time then Parson and would be dead by the time Parson was sent to Erf. That open up interesting possibilities as anyone from any time and any universe could all be brought to one point of time on Erf. That would give the "Elvis is a Titan" theory some weight.
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* Seemly Jossed. He's a caster and had to be popped in a city. There is no indication that natural allies can produce casters.
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*** Corollary: Rob will use Parson's friends for this or the problem could solve itself. There are several ways this could go down. Tropers/Thecommander236 [[note]](put your name by your theory)[[/note]]

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*** Corollary: Rob will use Parson's friends for this or the problem could solve itself. There are several ways this could go down. Tropers/Thecommander236 Tropers/{{Thecommander236}} [[note]](put your name by your theory)[[/note]]

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