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4th Dec '17 4:33:22 PM nombretomado
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Except they were reincarnated as [[TheAdventuresOfDuaneAndBrando DUNE the Fighter, SPUD the Black Belt, JOJO the Red Mage, and LEO the Black Mage]]. These four Light Warriors, however, realized the mistakes made in their respective past lives. Thus causing DUNE to be smart and the leader, SPUD to join the team, JOJO to flaunt his powers by using them, and LEO to be slick and effective. In the universe they were reborn in, the Dark Warriors really are evil, the villagers really are good, etc.

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Except they were reincarnated as [[TheAdventuresOfDuaneAndBrando [[Music/TheAdventuresOfDuaneAndBrando DUNE the Fighter, SPUD the Black Belt, JOJO the Red Mage, and LEO the Black Mage]]. These four Light Warriors, however, realized the mistakes made in their respective past lives. Thus causing DUNE to be smart and the leader, SPUD to join the team, JOJO to flaunt his powers by using them, and LEO to be slick and effective. In the universe they were reborn in, the Dark Warriors really are evil, the villagers really are good, etc.
17th Oct '17 7:33:58 PM RoninMacbeth
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*Jossed. [[spoiler:BM [[PhlebotoniumOverload overloads]] him with pure evil, allowing [[GreaterScopeVillain Chaos]] to kill Sarda and use his body as a portal.]]
8th Jul '17 10:06:07 PM Orbiting
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It would explain why he's a destructive nexus, was apparently evil from birth and generally is stab-happy. Why is Black Mage the living embodiment of the VillainBall? Much like [[{{Exalted}} the Ebon Dragon]], he embodies evil as in the lack of every single virtue-[[EvilVirtues pragmatism, restraint and sanity are considered virtues.]] Thus Black Mage is compelled to be as StupidEvil as he can because doing anything considered good by ''[[EveryoneHasStandards anyone]]'' would be antithetical to his existence. The reason why he's not in office is because he did something so idiotically villainous that [[PragmaticVillainy his own legions of hell]] booted him out. Darko is trying(and failing) to make Black Mage sane. What he doesn't know(or is purposefully hiding) is that there is a way to make him competent again while still appealing to the necessity to be evil. How? By pointing out that since he's being completely loyal to his nature, he's not a hypocrite. And not being a hypocrite is considered a ''virtue.'' Thus Black Mage being hypocritical and not doing evil in every conceivable way would be okay. Due to this, Black Mage would be less the Ebon Dragon and more [[Literature/SpaceTrilogy Perelandra Satan]]; [[EvilIsPetty enjoying petty evil]] yet [[PragmaticVillainy willing to be grand when it suits him.]] The only way to stop him then would be to point out the LogicBomb of this("you're using [[BadIsGoodAndGoodIsBad acts of inhumanity as your creed.]] By being as evil as possible, you're actually being moral in your own twisted view"), but since Black Mage is ''nuts'' this probably won't work.

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It would explain why he's a destructive nexus, was apparently evil from birth and generally is stab-happy. Why is Black Mage the living embodiment of the VillainBall? Much like [[{{Exalted}} [[TabletopGame/{{Exalted}} the Ebon Dragon]], he embodies evil as in the lack of every single virtue-[[EvilVirtues pragmatism, restraint and sanity are considered virtues.]] Thus Black Mage is compelled to be as StupidEvil as he can because doing anything considered good by ''[[EveryoneHasStandards anyone]]'' would be antithetical to his existence. The reason why he's not in office is because he did something so idiotically villainous that [[PragmaticVillainy his own legions of hell]] booted him out. Darko is trying(and failing) to make Black Mage sane. What he doesn't know(or is purposefully hiding) is that there is a way to make him competent again while still appealing to the necessity to be evil. How? By pointing out that since he's being completely loyal to his nature, he's not a hypocrite. And not being a hypocrite is considered a ''virtue.'' Thus Black Mage being hypocritical and not doing evil in every conceivable way would be okay. Due to this, Black Mage would be less the Ebon Dragon and more [[Literature/SpaceTrilogy Perelandra Satan]]; [[EvilIsPetty enjoying petty evil]] yet [[PragmaticVillainy willing to be grand when it suits him.]] The only way to stop him then would be to point out the LogicBomb of this("you're using [[BadIsGoodAndGoodIsBad acts of inhumanity as your creed.]] By being as evil as possible, you're actually being moral in your own twisted view"), but since Black Mage is ''nuts'' this probably won't work.



[[WMG:Fighter is a [[{{Exalted}} Solar Exalted]]]]

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[[WMG:Fighter is a [[{{Exalted}} [[TabletopGame/{{Exalted}} Solar Exalted]]]]
23rd Jan '17 6:40:11 AM DestinyPlayer
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[[WMG:Fighter is a [[{{Exalted}} Solar Exalted]]]]
It just fits. He can easily block a fall from extreme heights, which is easily explainable by Perfect Defense. He bends reality to his will, doing things that are impossible even by that universe's rules. Consequently, Red Mage might be a less competent Sidereal Exalted.
8th Oct '16 6:31:49 PM ZeroL
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[[WMG:The universe used to be a SugarBowl until Black Mage used the Hadoken and drained away all the love]]
That universe was created by White Mage, who is genuinely good, so it makes sense that it would be good. Plus, Black Mage is the most evil character. All the other villains are either incompetent, a self contradiction (like Chaos as proven by White Mage) or have some other ridiculous aspect (like Muffins' name). In fact, it's possible that Sarda draining Black Mage's evil actually reversed this, as we have no real proof that Chaos was really so horrible (He arbitrarily gave the "heroes" more time and considered turning the world into cake) and not, in fact, a SugarBowl villain. [[FridgeHorror Black Mage may actually be the source of all evil in that world.]]
4th Sep '15 4:00:33 PM nombretomado
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...by Brian Clevinger himself. Assuming that there is no sudden double-twist on one of the most massive anticlimaxes ever to walk the earth, readers of ''8-Bit Theater'' will be directed to his other comics under the pretense of "Now, want to see what Brian can do at the top of his game while ''not'' going to elaborate lengths to mess with his audience?" Anyone not reading them already will rush over, hoping that he'll do it "right" this time. Only time will tell if they are walking into the same trap. (This, of course, assumes that he had the likes of ''AtomicRobo'' and ''HowIKilledYourMaster'' in mind way back in 2001 and simply chose not to act on them until relatively recently, because The Plan dictated as much.)

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...by Brian Clevinger himself. Assuming that there is no sudden double-twist on one of the most massive anticlimaxes ever to walk the earth, readers of ''8-Bit Theater'' will be directed to his other comics under the pretense of "Now, want to see what Brian can do at the top of his game while ''not'' going to elaborate lengths to mess with his audience?" Anyone not reading them already will rush over, hoping that he'll do it "right" this time. Only time will tell if they are walking into the same trap. (This, of course, assumes that he had the likes of ''AtomicRobo'' ''ComicBook/AtomicRobo'' and ''HowIKilledYourMaster'' in mind way back in 2001 and simply chose not to act on them until relatively recently, because The Plan dictated as much.)
27th Aug '15 7:04:20 PM nombretomado
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Black Mage will attempt one last time to impress White Mage by doing some genuinely good deeds. Of course, this being Black Mage, this deeds won't ''actually'' be genuine and just an underhanded scheme to trick her and earn false credit for everything. Tired of dealing with him, White Mage crosses over to our world and watches ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', asking an unseen someone "...And they always watch things like this?" Returning to their world, she then turns Black Mage, Fighter, Thief and Red Mage in {{Expy}}s of the MST3K crew and sends them off to the same fate, finally explaining the ''Theater'' part of the title!

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Black Mage will attempt one last time to impress White Mage by doing some genuinely good deeds. Of course, this being Black Mage, this deeds won't ''actually'' be genuine and just an underhanded scheme to trick her and earn false credit for everything. Tired of dealing with him, White Mage crosses over to our world and watches ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', asking an unseen someone "...And they always watch things like this?" Returning to their world, she then turns Black Mage, Fighter, Thief and Red Mage in {{Expy}}s of the MST3K [=MST3K=] crew and sends them off to the same fate, finally explaining the ''Theater'' part of the title!
26th Aug '15 7:55:24 PM nombretomado
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Black Mage will attempt one last time to impress White Mage by doing some geniunely good deeds. Of course, this being Black Mage, this deeds won't ''actually'' be genuine and just an underhanded scheme to trick her and earn false credit for everything. Tired of dealing with him, White Mage crosses over to our world and watches ''MysteryScienceTheater3000'', asking an unseen someone "...And they always watch things like this?" Returning to their world, she then turns Black Mage, Fighter, Thief and Red Mage in {{Expy}}s of the MST3K crew and sends them off to the same fate, finally explaining the ''Theater'' part of the title!

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Black Mage will attempt one last time to impress White Mage by doing some geniunely genuinely good deeds. Of course, this being Black Mage, this deeds won't ''actually'' be genuine and just an underhanded scheme to trick her and earn false credit for everything. Tired of dealing with him, White Mage crosses over to our world and watches ''MysteryScienceTheater3000'', ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', asking an unseen someone "...And they always watch things like this?" Returning to their world, she then turns Black Mage, Fighter, Thief and Red Mage in {{Expy}}s of the MST3K crew and sends them off to the same fate, finally explaining the ''Theater'' part of the title!
17th Jul '15 2:25:15 PM Xihirli
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* I'm going to agree with the poster above me: This theory DOES make perfect sense!
13th Jul '15 8:08:24 PM nombretomado
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Pointless, an anticlimax to both the strip (being the epilogue) and the wait (several weeks at least), and, well, [[AmericanCustomaryMeasurements 12/25]].

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Pointless, an anticlimax to both the strip (being the epilogue) and the wait (several weeks at least), and, well, [[AmericanCustomaryMeasurements [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCustomaryMeasurements 12/25]].
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