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* You have a good point, I have some evidence to back up said claims, 1) He dresses very similarly to how Buu does, it is outright stated that he is immortal, which is rare in the DBZ universe, also he is supposed to be a Genie or something, wheras Buu by WordOfGod is stated to be inspired by a Djinn, which in modern culture has translated to "evil Genie" type spirits, there is also the fact that Mr. Popo has seemingly no trouble fighting people who, generally, should be way above his skill level, and is usually cited as being stronger than he looks, along with the fact that he never takes off that damn turban, bet there is a head tentacle under there.

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* You have a good point, I have some evidence to back up said claims, 1) He dresses very similarly to how Buu does, it is outright stated that he is immortal, which is rare in the DBZ universe, also he is supposed to be a Genie or something, wheras Buu by WordOfGod is stated to be inspired by a Djinn, which in modern culture has translated to "evil Genie" type spirits, there is also the fact that Mr. Popo has seemingly no trouble fighting people who, generally, should be way above his skill level, and is usually cited as being stronger than he looks, along with the fact that he never takes off that damn turban, bet there is a head tentacle under there.
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* You have a good point, I have some evidence to back up said claims, 1) He dresses very similarly to how Buu does, it is outright stated that he is immortal, which is rare in the DBZ universe, also he is supposed to be a Genie or something, wheras Buu by WordOfGod is stated to be inspired by a Djinn, which in modern culture has translated to "evil Genie" type spirits, there is also the fact that Mr. Popo has seemingly no trouble fighting people who, generally, should be way above his skill level, and is usually cited as being stronger than he looks, along with the fact that he never takes off that damn turban, bet there is a head tentacle under there.
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*** Well, in the movies, she's one of the few (read: 2 or 3) people that think his poses and speeches are actually cool, so maybe [[HiddenDepths she has a secret geeky side she never shows to anyone except him]]? It would make her character more interesting if they would explore that. Perhaps she's a tokusatsu buff, and knows a LOT more about all the various ''SuperSentai'' series than anyone would expect a martial artist to?

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*** Well, in the movies, she's one of the few (read: 2 or 3) people that think his poses and speeches are actually cool, so maybe [[HiddenDepths she has a secret geeky side she never shows to anyone except him]]? It would make her character more interesting if they would explore that. Perhaps she's a tokusatsu buff, and knows a LOT more about all the various ''SuperSentai'' ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' series than anyone would expect a martial artist to?
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* I ''[[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments love]]'' how you felt you needed to point out that [[CaptainObvious blowing up the planet isn't a good thing]].

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* I ''[[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments love]]'' how you felt you needed to point out that [[CaptainObvious blowing up the planet isn't a good thing]].
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Just as there are no mistakes in martial arts, there are no mistakes in martial arts anime/cartoons apparently. If Vegito/Gogeta were to appear in BOG then it would be just another "turn the tables around curbstomp retaliation" like the battle against Buu or even the ending in non-canon movie "Fusion Reborn" or the appearance of [=SSJ4=] Gogeta in the non-canon franchise gt. Even though it would of been [[CaptainObvious really satisfying seeing another appearance from Vegito or even the first canon appearance of Gogeta beat the shit out of a villian that thinks their invincible such as beerus]],that would of defeated the point of the film hence its name "battle of GODS". If Goku and Vegeta did fuse(then of course beat the shit out of Beerus and Whis) that would take up all of the creative room that was meant to introduce the new saiyan transformation(ssjgod). It's clear that Akira regrets ending the series after the Majin Buu saga and that's why there's Gt, a couple of DBZmovies after the Buu saga, and let's not forget the shitload of dbz video games including that online DBZ games. So he decides to make a movie about the series even going as far as introducing a new saiyan transformation into it, he's pretty much trying to pull the series out of retirement (not cancellation), and to add to that there is a new DBZ movie coming out in 2015. While some fans are in denial in the face that Vegito is stronger than Beerus here's this. Vegito beat Buu(han) and Super was more or less equal to [=SSJ3=] Goku plus he had Goten, Trunks, Piccolo and Ultimate Gohan who was way stronger than Vegeta (Before BOG in which he got that rage boost against Beerus) seeing as he completely dominated super Buu before he started assimilating people so if you're going to be all mathematical about this shit, Buuhan after absorbing all of those people should of kicked Vegito's ass not the other way around. The reason being because Vegito got a power boost from the earrings also an additional power boost because Goku and Vegeta were rivals as stated by Elder Kai. So Vegito is going to have a hell of a lot more power than just Goku and Vegeta otherwise he wouldn't of been able to defeat Majin Buu but completely dominate him as well. For those fans who are still feeling "skeptical" about the subject Beerus can't defeat ssj1 Vegito/Gogeta, let's just be generous and say Beerus can defeat [=SSJ1=] Vegito/Gogeta, but is it possible for beerus to defeat [=SSJ2=] or even [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill [=SSJ3=] Vegito Gogeta]]? Point proven.

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Just as there are no mistakes in martial arts, there are no mistakes in martial arts anime/cartoons apparently. If Vegito/Gogeta were to appear in BOG then it would be just another "turn the tables around curbstomp retaliation" like the battle against Buu or even the ending in non-canon movie "Fusion Reborn" or the appearance of [=SSJ4=] Gogeta in the non-canon franchise gt. Even though it would of been [[CaptainObvious really satisfying seeing another appearance from Vegito or even the first canon appearance of Gogeta beat the shit out of a villian that thinks their invincible such as beerus]],that beerus, that would of defeated the point of the film hence its name "battle of GODS". If Goku and Vegeta did fuse(then of course beat the shit out of Beerus and Whis) that would take up all of the creative room that was meant to introduce the new saiyan transformation(ssjgod). It's clear that Akira regrets ending the series after the Majin Buu saga and that's why there's Gt, a couple of DBZmovies after the Buu saga, and let's not forget the shitload of dbz video games including that online DBZ games. So he decides to make a movie about the series even going as far as introducing a new saiyan transformation into it, he's pretty much trying to pull the series out of retirement (not cancellation), and to add to that there is a new DBZ movie coming out in 2015. While some fans are in denial in the face that Vegito is stronger than Beerus here's this. Vegito beat Buu(han) and Super was more or less equal to [=SSJ3=] Goku plus he had Goten, Trunks, Piccolo and Ultimate Gohan who was way stronger than Vegeta (Before BOG in which he got that rage boost against Beerus) seeing as he completely dominated super Buu before he started assimilating people so if you're going to be all mathematical about this shit, Buuhan after absorbing all of those people should of kicked Vegito's ass not the other way around. The reason being because Vegito got a power boost from the earrings also an additional power boost because Goku and Vegeta were rivals as stated by Elder Kai. So Vegito is going to have a hell of a lot more power than just Goku and Vegeta otherwise he wouldn't of been able to defeat Majin Buu but completely dominate him as well. For those fans who are still feeling "skeptical" about the subject Beerus can't defeat ssj1 Vegito/Gogeta, let's just be generous and say Beerus can defeat [=SSJ1=] Vegito/Gogeta, but is it possible for beerus to defeat [=SSJ2=] or even [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill [=SSJ3=] Vegito Gogeta]]? Point proven.
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As many DBZ fans dislike DragonBall GT it perfectly fits in the Dragonball timeline. The reason why GT is becoming obsolete is so DBZ can be revived and brought into a new direction.

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As many DBZ fans dislike DragonBall GT Anime/DragonBallGT it perfectly fits in the Dragonball timeline. The reason why GT is becoming obsolete is so DBZ can be revived and brought into a new direction.
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[[WMG: Trunks is a Time Lord.]]
Because... time travel? Come on. Too obvious. I think it's clear Bulma had Time Lord DNA, so Trunks would be part Time Lord, part human, and part Saiyan. His new rage form [[AssPull that was never explained]] obviously has something to do with his ancestry from Gallifrey.
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[[WMG: Mr. Satan's AttentionWhore tendencies are a coping mechanism for losing his wife.]]
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* I ''[[CrowningMomentOfFunny love]]'' how you felt you needed to point out that [[CaptainObvious blowing up the planet isn't a good thing]].

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* I ''[[CrowningMomentOfFunny ''[[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments love]]'' how you felt you needed to point out that [[CaptainObvious blowing up the planet isn't a good thing]].



* FIFTEEN years later? [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Kills a helicopter bristling with heavy-artillery by ramming a car into it.]]

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** Personally I take [[WebVideo/DragonballZAbridged Team Four Star's]] explanation for where Trunks came from as canon. Let's face it, even if it wasn't [[CrowningMomentOfFunny completely hilarious]] it would still fit their characterization at the time.

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** Personally I take [[WebVideo/DragonballZAbridged Team Four Star's]] explanation for where Trunks came from as canon. Let's face it, even if it wasn't [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments completely hilarious]] it would still fit their characterization at the time.



** [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming This needs to happen]].

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** [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments This needs to happen]].
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[[WMG: Cell is an incarnation of AM, the supercomputer from ''IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream''.]]

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[[WMG: Cell is an incarnation of AM, the supercomputer from ''IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream''.''Literature/IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream''.]]
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[[WMG: Beerus is the reason Frieza wanted the dragon balls so badly.]]
The REAL reason Frieza wants immortality is so he can take on Beerus. In his narcissistic mind, he believes he can challenge the god of destruction as an immortal and win. He hates the fact he is taking orders from another being.
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I saw this idea elsewhere and liked it enough to put here. Broly did hate Goku for the crying, of course, but less for the crying itself and more for what Broly associated with the sound. His memory may be impossibly good, but he was still a very tiny infant at the time everything went to shit for the Saiyans. What happened to him that day? The kid got stabbed, tossed into a waste dump with his father, and then had a planet blow up right next to/on top of him. [[{{Understatement}} That's...kinda a lot for a baby to go through.]] So, naturally, he went completely bonkers. His actual memories of the time come from a mind way too young to really understand what was happening, and his perspective is coming from an extremely broken mind. He remembers all the pain, fear, and anger he felt back then, but instead of realizing these events were unrelated to each other, Broly pins all of those negative feelings on the event that (to him) started it all; Goku's crying.

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I saw this idea elsewhere and liked it enough to put here. Broly did hate Goku for the crying, of course, but less for the crying itself and more for what Broly associated with the sound. His memory may be impossibly good, but he was still a very tiny infant at the time everything went to shit for the Saiyans. What happened to him that day? The kid got stabbed, tossed into a waste dump with his father, and then had a planet blow up right next to/on top of him. [[{{Understatement}} That's...kinda That's a lot for a baby to go through.]] through. So, naturally, he went completely bonkers. His actual memories of the time come from a mind way too young to really understand what was happening, and his perspective is coming from an extremely broken mind. He remembers all the pain, fear, and anger he felt back then, but instead of realizing these events were unrelated to each other, Broly pins all of those negative feelings on the event that (to him) started it all; Goku's crying.
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*** This would actually make sense. Its hard to gauge the gap between Cell and Gohan but Cell has Saiyan DNA and Tien DNA. I can't imagine that a four armed Oozaru wouldn't have gotten him through.
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* If we're getting into the suggestions as well, Fairy Tail would probably be Acnologia, while Neon Genesis Evangelion would be [[spoiler: Shinji after the Zeruel fight]], especially if we're going off the Rebuild of Evangelion path.

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* If we're getting into the suggestions as well, Fairy Tail Manga/FairyTail would probably be Acnologia, while Neon Genesis Evangelion Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion would be [[spoiler: Shinji after the Zeruel fight]], especially if we're going off the Rebuild of Evangelion path.
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* Jossed. Raditz was confirmed to be the about the same age as Vegeta in both official guides and in DB Minus. Plus, Bardock wasn't elderly when Planet Vegeta was destroyed, so Raditz couldn't have been fully grown at the time. Plus, Vegeta's height is inconsistently draw in the series (to the point were he's often depicted as only slightly shorter than Goku, especially in Super).
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** There is little to no evidence of him being a virgin prior to Namek. The idea that his anger issues stemming from sexual frustration doesn't work either because his personally didn't change at all after being with Bulma and having Trunks in the Android/Cell arc.
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[[WMG: Cell was supposed to be Dr Gero's BodyBackupDrive.]]
Based off the Fridge/DragonBallFighterz. Dr Gero's android body was inferior to 17 and 18 and could only get stronger by absorbing energy-17 and 18 could train. Cell is able to both absorb energy, get stronger and with absorbing 17 and 18 have infinite stamina. If Dr Gero wanted immortality, wouldn't he make a better body for himself? Perhaps he did, and ''Cell'' was his better body. Given Cell wouldn't be finished until over twenty years, he needed to make sure he'd be alive and ambulatory until the project was completed. This is why Gero never gave Cell any further purpose upon becoming perfect; he was meant to be his vessel. If Dr Gero becomes Cell he not only has a superior body, but would get the pleasure of absorbing the android twins personally. And ironically, he would gain the DNA of his most hated enemy.

When Dr Gero was "killed", his consciousness was downloaded into the Super Computer, who ended up being KilledOffForReal by Future Trunks and Krillin. This is why the wish to bring back the people everyone Cell and the androids killed when an android crushed his skull; 17 eliminated his organic components, but Trunks and Krillin finished him off. As for Cell and Future Cell, how come they don't have Gero's consciousness? The good doctor has a habit of underestimating the will and individuality of his creations, and Cell had a will of his own strong enough to reject him.
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[[WMG: Freeza's Race is the Metamorans]]
*Freeza's race has no official name, and we have no idea what Metamorans actually look like. In DBS's Resurrection 'F' arc, it's confirmed that Freeza definitely knows what fusion is (well in the dub anyway). Granted, Freeza's lived a pretty long time and has probably seen a ton of techniques; plus he's had soldiers working under him of numerous races, and some of them could have used fusion. But Freeza doesn't seem like the type to interact directly with his soldiers too often, and he probably wouldn't be on the battlefield with them if he could help it.
* The root word -meta, which means to change (ex. metamorphisis); could serve as an allusion to their transformation abilities.
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*** {{Manga/Toriko}}, Manga/RosarioToVampire, Manga/{{Hellsing}}, Manga/FairyTail, and Manga/NurarihyonNoMago
*** Franchise/LyricalNanoha, Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion, Manga/ElfenLied, and [[BadFuture the two alternate timelines made by Trunks' time travelling exploits]].
*** All Dragon Ball timelines are part of a singular universe, and even if they where not they would still be governed by Beerus.
*** Manga/OutlawStar, {{Manga/Gunnm}}, Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar, Manga/HikaruNoGo. (Imagins Goku and Vegeta playing go as super saiyans.)
*** I think {{Manga/Shaman King}} and {{Manga/Beelzebub}} are more likely candidates. Shaman King has seven different gods, and Beelzebub features some gigantic power ups and the lord of the underworld with its own alternate dimension.
*** I kind of want to suggest {{Anime/Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt}} on account of an admittedly semi-insane theory I have regarding Bulma's parents.

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*** {{Manga/Toriko}}, Manga/RosarioToVampire, Manga/{{Hellsing}}, Manga/FairyTail, ''Manga/{{Toriko}}'', ''Manga/RosarioToVampire'', ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'', ''Manga/FairyTail'', and Manga/NurarihyonNoMago
''Manga/NuraRiseOfTheYokaiClan''
*** Franchise/LyricalNanoha, Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion, Manga/ElfenLied, ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', ''Manga/ElfenLied'', and [[BadFuture the two alternate timelines made by Trunks' time travelling exploits]].
*** All Dragon Ball ''Franchise/DragonBall'' timelines are part of a singular universe, and even if they where not they would still be governed by Beerus.
*** Manga/OutlawStar, {{Manga/Gunnm}}, Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar, Manga/HikaruNoGo.''Manga/OutlawStar'', ''{{Manga/Gunnm}}'', ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'', ''Manga/HikaruNoGo''. (Imagins Goku and Vegeta playing go as super saiyans.)
*** I think {{Manga/Shaman King}} ''Manga/ShamanKing'' and {{Manga/Beelzebub}} ''Manga/{{Beelzebub}}'' are more likely candidates. Shaman King ''Shaman King'' has seven different gods, and Beelzebub features some gigantic power ups and the lord of the underworld with its own alternate dimension.
*** I kind of want to suggest {{Anime/Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt}} ''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' on account of an admittedly semi-insane theory I have regarding Bulma's parents.
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[[WMG: The Makyans (Garlic Jr. and his minions) are from Universe 9]]
*The Makyo Star, the home planet of the Makyans, is mobile and moves from planet to planet, conquering them.
*Universe 9 is a very rough universe where only the strong survive, the kind of place where a planet that lives by conquering others would thrive.
*Garlic Jr. possesses the power to open portals to other dimensions, IE the Dead Zone. In theory, he or someone else could have brought the planet into a different universe with the same or a similar ability.
*All of the Makyans, like the Universe 9 Tournament of Power fighters, are named after spices. Basil, Garlic, Ginger, Lavender, Bergamo, Salt, etc.
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** We can't joss this simply because Pan is a girl - since prior to Gohan, as far as we knew, there had been no [[HalfHumanHybrid Half Saiyan Hybrids]]. It could be that the Saiyan genes get passed down regardless of gender; hence the reason why even though Goku Jr. is even less Saiyan than Pan (Pan should be 1/4th, since Gohan was 1/2, and Videl was 100% human, so unless Pan or one of her descendants hooked up with a Saiyan who somehow survived Freeza exterminating the Saiyans, Goku Jr. would, at most, be 1/64th Saiyan), he still possesses the ability to go Super Saiyan.




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** Also supporting this theory: Saiyans possess the ability to breed with other races that are at least somewhat humanlike, whereas Namekians multiply via asexual reproduction.



[[WMG: The reason Trunks' sword worked against mecha freeza but not goku is becuase it only works against people with mechanical body parts.]]
* It was specially designed to kill the future androids, and it tore through mecha freeza like butter, but it didn't work when king cold used it against him, or when he used against goku becuase neither of them had any android parts. the reason it broke on the present androids is because they were just so strong they overpowered it.

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[[WMG: The reason Trunks' sword worked against mecha freeza Freeza but not goku is becuase it only works against people with mechanical body parts.]]
* It was specially designed to kill the future androids, and it tore through mecha freeza Freeza like butter, but it didn't work when king cold used it against him, or when he used against goku becuase neither of them had any android parts. the reason it broke on the present androids is because they were just so strong they overpowered it.



* WAY WRONG!!!! Sorry, i meant is this correct based on the Hirudegarn movie, where the sword was given to trunks by that one purple alien, who had it forged to defeat a giant mystical Holocauser.

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* WAY WRONG!!!! Sorry, i I meant is this correct based on the Hirudegarn movie, where the sword was given to trunks by that one purple alien, who had it forged to defeat a giant mystical Holocauser.









*** In this case I interpeted sex drive as reproductive drive.

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*** Namekians are utterly sexless; Dende (at least in the manga) seems to be utterly confused at the concept of "male" and "female". Given that they can seem to reproduce _at will_, it would likely be a good survival method to culturally limit breeding to just the one in charge at the moment, with no one else being _allowed_ to breed (as in wolf packs, where only the alpha pair is allowed to breed), so as not to overpopulate their world too much. This one is not sure whether or not if the reason for their planet having an environmental collapse was mentioned or not, but even if they don't eat, they may have overpopulated themselves, leading to a disaster. Given that this would have happened in Guru's lifetime, as the last Namekian (that he knew of, The Nameless Namekian already sitting on Earth wondering what to do) this "cultural rule" might be brand new with him. Given how much control they have over the creation of their offspring (as evidenced by Demon-King Piccolo's kids), it wouldn't be hard to make them kind of automatically realize the need for this kind of rule. Dende follows it, because he doesn't see himself as having authority/permission to reproduce, while Piccolo, well, he probably remembers what his previous self spawned. Also, he had Gohan, which might be good enough for any desires of having progeny.

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*** Namekians are utterly sexless; Dende (at least in the manga) seems to be utterly confused at the concept of "male" and "female". Given that they can seem to reproduce _at will_, ''at will'', it would likely be a good survival method to culturally limit breeding to just the one in charge at the moment, with no one else being _allowed_ ''allowed'' to breed (as in wolf packs, where only the alpha pair is allowed to breed), so as not to overpopulate their world too much. This one is not sure whether or not if the reason for their planet having an environmental collapse was mentioned or not, but even if they don't eat, they may have overpopulated themselves, leading to a disaster. Given that this would have happened in Guru's lifetime, as the last Namekian (that he knew of, The Nameless Namekian already sitting on Earth wondering what to do) this "cultural rule" might be brand new with him. Given how much control they have over the creation of their offspring (as evidenced by Demon-King Piccolo's kids), it wouldn't be hard to make them kind of automatically realize the need for this kind of rule. Dende follows it, because he doesn't see himself as having authority/permission to reproduce, while Piccolo, well, he probably remembers what his previous self spawned. Also, he had Gohan, which might be good enough for any desires of having progeny.



* If goku got a lobotomy, then by some manner of [[AppliedPhlebotinum Saiyan Strength]], was revived to the point of not being a vegetable anymore, would he have physcic powers, considering a lobotomy is a surgical interruption of one or more nerve tracts in the frontal lobe of the brain: used in the treatment of intractable mental disorders.\\

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* If goku Goku got a lobotomy, then by some manner of [[AppliedPhlebotinum Saiyan Strength]], was revived to the point of not being a vegetable anymore, would he have physcic powers, considering a lobotomy is a surgical interruption of one or more nerve tracts in the frontal lobe of the brain: used in the treatment of intractable mental disorders.\\



Elder Kai warns out heroes that misuse of the Dragonballs could cause terrible natural imbalance and Namek, the planet of the balls origin, was devestated by natural disaster during Guru's time. It isn't unreasonable to link this event with Elder Kai's warning.

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Elder Kai warns out heroes that misuse of the Dragonballs could cause terrible natural imbalance and Namek, the planet of the balls origin, was devestated devastated by natural disaster during Guru's time. It isn't unreasonable to link this event with Elder Kai's warning.




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** I'm gonna actually suggest a bridge between this and the possibility that Gohan's brains come from his mom: Saiyans breeding with other races increases more than just strength, it also increases other attributes, with what attributes get increased depends on what race the Saiyan breeds with (in the case of humans, it's intelligence; maybe perhaps a Saiyan breeding with one of Zangya's race would result in a Saiyan who's both stronger and more charismatic). As for why Goten doesn't have Gohan's intelligence? Simple: Gohan got the brains of the family.






** Personally I take [[WebVideo/DragonballZAbridged Team Four Star's]] explanation for where Trunks came from as canon. Let's face it, even if it wasn't [[CrowningMomentOfFunny completely hilarious]] it would still fit their characterixation at the time.

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** Personally I take [[WebVideo/DragonballZAbridged Team Four Star's]] explanation for where Trunks came from as canon. Let's face it, even if it wasn't [[CrowningMomentOfFunny completely hilarious]] it would still fit their characterixation characterization at the time.



* By extension, Trunk and Pan could also hook up for the same reason.

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[[WMG: If Goku couldn't achieve the ssjgod transformation he would of just ended up fusing with Vegeta again.]]

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[[WMG: If Goku couldn't achieve the ssjgod [=SSJ God=] transformation he would of just ended up fusing with Vegeta again.]]
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* To make the guess more wild, it's likely that earth suffered a Dark age at some point when humanity degraded to a much lower level of civilization due to some apocalypse (or a World war between bloodthirsty ancient human ancestors). Some humans escaped and traveled to planet Vegeta, [[LostTechnology lost touch with their home civilization]] and themselves degraded to the Stone age in their attempt to adapt to the harsh conditions on the new planet. The native Tuffles too could have inflicted heavy losses against these humans, destroyed whatever tech they had and forced them into the wild where they struggled to survive for a long long time (Reminds me of what happened in Larry Niven's {{Ringworld}}). Over time humans on earth again became technologically advanced and evolved to lose their tails and their fighting genes (Super Saiyan genes became recessive to the point where they went vestigial). For Saiyans it was just the opposite. They adapted to the wild, over time probably forgot their own history and turned into savages and evolved into fighting machines under the 10x gravity and gained the ability to transform into apes and their Super Saiyan genes became dominant, but dormant. Thus humans split into two groups, but other than certain genes evolving to becoming dominant and others becoming vestigial, they are in fact the same species.

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* To make the guess more wild, it's likely that earth suffered a Dark age at some point when humanity degraded to a much lower level of civilization due to some apocalypse (or a World war between bloodthirsty ancient human ancestors). Some humans escaped and traveled to planet Vegeta, [[LostTechnology lost touch with their home civilization]] and themselves degraded to the Stone age in their attempt to adapt to the harsh conditions on the new planet. The native Tuffles too could have inflicted heavy losses against these humans, destroyed whatever tech they had and forced them into the wild where they struggled to survive for a long long time (Reminds me of what happened in Larry Niven's {{Ringworld}}).{{Literature/Ringworld}}). Over time humans on earth again became technologically advanced and evolved to lose their tails and their fighting genes (Super Saiyan genes became recessive to the point where they went vestigial). For Saiyans it was just the opposite. They adapted to the wild, over time probably forgot their own history and turned into savages and evolved into fighting machines under the 10x gravity and gained the ability to transform into apes and their Super Saiyan genes became dominant, but dormant. Thus humans split into two groups, but other than certain genes evolving to becoming dominant and others becoming vestigial, they are in fact the same species.
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[[WMG: Super Saiyan run off a shared power source]]
Sorry if someone already said it. This page is a case of Too Long Didn't Read.
What I'm basically saying is that the less Saiyans there are, then the more likely they are to become super and vice versa.
It explains why there had only been one super Saiyan in thousands of years when they were a thriving race but now that they're near extinct they all can do it. Cabbage in Dragon Ball Super comes from a universe where Saiyans still thrive and has never heard of super Saiyans, but shortly after he's removed from his universe, he learns to transform.
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[[WMG: Goku's survival is the reason why the androids were different from Trunks' timeline.]]
Goku got the heart virus six months later from the Cell and Trunks timelines, who died from it before the androids attacked. As for why, it could be that fighting King Cold and Frieza in those timelines somehow worsened his immune system to the virus. Dr Gero doesn't know about Super Saiyans, so the change couldn't have been from Future Trunks killing them. With Goku's death, Dr Gero felt comfortable being able to take on his friends as he was. He made Android 19 for this purpose, which is why he doesn't exist in Trunks' timeline. Since 19 apparently helped put his brain in Android 20's body, some other process must have done it in Trunks' timeline. This may have given 17 and 18 an opening to rebel earlier than was planned, which is why Future Trunks didn't know Dr Gero was an android-17 and 18 killed Gero right before he was ready to combat the Z-fighters. They also didn't bother opening 16's capsule, so he was never awakened or discovered in Trunks' timeline leading to his further confusion. Just in case 19 and him weren't enough for Goku, Gero made sure to upgrade 17 and 18 to be more powerful. Also make them less aggressive so they wouldn't go berserk and kill him. [[TheDogBitesBack They weren't berserk anymore, but had every reason to off him anyway]]. It's possible that Dr Gero also upgraded and altered Cell, so that when he emerged his genetic make-up, personality and power would've been modified. Present Cell would've been stronger than the Cell we know out of a response to Goku, just like Android 17 and 18...unfortunately for him, [[NiceJobFixingItVillain his counterpart revealed where he was developing]] and Future Trunks made sure he couldn't further develop. The stronger androids could have been problematic for the more well-known Cell because he'd be expecting weaker androids seeing as how he's weaker to a foe about the same strength as Present 17. Fortunately for him he got enough humans to eat so it becomes a moot point.
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[[WMG: Namekians are among the oldest, if not ''the'' oldest race in the universe.]]
Old Kai apparently knew about the Dragonballs and warned the Namekians not to use them. Old Kai has been sealed for 75 million years, so either he has some psychic presence in the sword or the Namekians have been around a really long time. The more demonic offspring King Piccolo sires may not just be because of his demon powers, but some sort of genetic memory causing him to bring back evolutionary precursors of the current Namekians. Namek may not even be their original homeworld, and they migrate every few millennia or so when something bad happens. Guru's knowledge of the original Super Saiyan and Saiyan history could hint at either interaction with the two races through interstellar travel, or his generation's Namekians were from a nearby planet before moving to Namek. However the near-extinctions(the last one so severe Guru was the only survivor left on Namek) and the massive breadths of time has destroyed most of the historical records, and they've long forgotten their history. Only the Kaioshins have been around enough to know this. New Namek is one of their former homeworlds, having had millions of years to recover from what kicked them off in the first place, which is why they adapt to it so easily.
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[[WMG: King Cold can transform. It's just that he doesn't need to.]]
Even in his "second" form, King Cold is described as being similar in power to Frieza. Consider that Frieza's second form is ''far'' weaker than his true form, and it's stated that Cold is in general slightly weaker than Frieza. [[NoNonsenseNemesis Someone like Cold should transform immediately after seeing Frieza die]] if it gives him a significant boost in power, however it's unlikely that the horned form is his "true" form since Frieza was apparently reproduced asexually by Cold and the other canon member of their race(Frost) follows similar transforming conventions to Frieza. So King Cold's normal form shouldn't be the horned form. So what gives? Frieza states the different forms were an attempt to control his power. Since Cold is older and more experienced, he has long since learned to control his forms and doesn't need them as power suppressants. Transformation doesn't increase or decrease his power at this point, if Cold did it would just be a waste of time in combat. Why does he choose the horned form? First, intimidation. He's naturally huge, so making himself even larger and demonic-looking would benefit him. Second, it helps distinguish himself from his son. The latter is probably the out-of-universe reason Akira Toriyama made Cold after his son's second form. Of course, since Frieza is likely a clone of his father(due to being asexually reproduced) King Cold could train and get a form that actually benefits him, however the Frieza clan are BrilliantButLazy and the Pilaf Gang wishblocked Sorbet and Tagoma.
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[[WMG: Future Trunks is misinformed about how Bulma and Yamcha broke up.]]
The idea that Yamcha cheated on her seems implausible given she's the one who jumps to conclusions when women are interested in him, plus when we see them in the Android saga and afterwards [[AmicableExes Bulma and Yamcha seem to be on good terms]]. Keep in mind this is after the guy who ordered his death got her pregnant, so there can't be much bitterness between them. Future Trunks has a skewed perception of his father, [[BrokenPedestal and was let down by how much of a prick he was]] ([[RebuiltPedestal until he started becoming a better man]]). He'd also be biased to Bulma who wouldn't want to mention she often flirted with other men. Because of his bias [[HeroicBastard and is implied to be born out of a casual fling]], he assumed something bad must've happened between the two for what led to his conception. The ladies' man might even come from Future Yamcha becoming a playboy in the short time after the break-up but before the androids kill him. Future Bulma went along with Trunks' assertions, probably because [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys she doesn't want to admit she got knocked up by a scumbag]](also why she whitewashes Vegeta). As for Goku, [[MistakenForCheating he assumes Yamcha did cheat on Bulam]], it's just not his nature or business to interfere.
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[[WMG: Goku got the idea of mastering Super Saiyan from Gohan's troubles with the form.]]
During their training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Gohan was staying into SSJ a lot by himself and having trouble dialing his ki blasts down enough for the little things such as roasting some meat. As he helped him refine his control, Goku noted that Gohan was slowly becoming better as a SSJ in general... And, being a fighting and training genius, Goku realized what it would lead to.
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[[WMG: Cell killed Future Trunks to get back at him for future events.]]
Hence why he targeted him out instead of Gohan, Vegeta or someone else. A version of Trunks was responsible for him having to go back in time in the first place by deactivating the androids. Since absorbing them and becoming perfect is literally Cell's meaning in life and would have remaining unable to fulfill such meaning if it weren't for Trunks' time machine, chances are he hates him more than any other of the Z-Fighters, or at least until Gohan humiliated him. Of the people to kill in order to make his entrance as Super Perfect Cell, he chose Trunks instead of anyone else because he still holds a grudge over the one from his timeline and wants him dead again before anyone else. It's possible he strangled the Trunks of his timeline to death instead of just ki blasting him because he wanted his death to be extra-painful for initially ruining his life.

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[[WMG: Old Kai isn't naturally a DirtyOldMan, it's the fusion's fault.]]
He's perverted because of the witch he fused with, not because of RuleOfFunny. While the Kai side was obviously dominant given he looks like an elderly Kai and isn't intersexed, he did inherit her elderly appearance(though due to time passing, it might fit his actual age now) so he might have inherited some of her personality traits. Kais and Kaioshin, being born from fruit, probably don't have or need much of a sex drive. That came from the mortal witch, which is why Shin was confused at his perverted behavior despite most non-villainous old men having some perversions; Kai can't naturally be perverted.
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(The line of "succession", as it were, went like this: King Vegeta -> Freeza -> Goku -> Cell -> Gohan -> Buu -> Goku.)

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(The line of "succession", as it were, went like this: King Vegeta -> Freeza -> Goku Future Trunks -> Cell -> Gohan -> Buu -> Goku.Goku -> Beerus.)

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