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*** Grandpa Gohan = Sparkle (''Film/DragonBallTheMagicBegins''[[note]]a 1991 Chinese live action remake of ''Dragon Ball: Curse of the Blood Rubies''[[/note]]).

It's not like it hasn't happened before, what with the 1995 Funi/BLT/Ocean dub of Curse of the Blood Rubies having a script based off the Harmony Gold dub from TheEighties. Similarly, the Westwood/Ocean dub using a script based off the Funimation dub.

[[WMG: [[AuthorExistenceFailure What will be done about Bulma]]]]

* Jossed; Tsuru still managed to complete her lines as Bulma in episode 128, and Bulma was unvoiced in the finale, meaning that Creator/AyaHisakawa took over for future ''Dragon Ball'' media starting with ''Anime/DragonBallSuperBroly''.

[[WMG: Upcoming arcs will focus on each of the 7 universes that competed in the Tournament of Power alongisde Universe 7.]]

We know that these universes were revived at the end of the tournament, thus having lots of potential to be fleshed out. I think that an arc centered around each of these universes would be a good next step for the series, be it TV or movie.

*** Hey I welcome constructive inputs from as long as they are constructive and you sir are indeed getting better at it, so lets do continue. Lets take my assumptions and put them up against yours: 1. My observation that U7 supreme kais are nicer were indeed only supported by their interactions with people around Goku, so if you have evidence that Zamasu and Gowasu interacting with mortals other than killing them or letting them die in front of them I will happily consider those as well, as it stands now you have nothing at all so who is the one without evidence again? Also as WMGs go I don't think I "need" to prove anything, you can believe whatever you want, my objective is not to convince you at all so there is no reason for me to bear the burden of prove, I play with you now because I love the discussion itself, not because I have to (I mean there are WMGs with cross over elements in them, what can anyone do with proving those other than having a good time doing so). Gowasu being reasonable is a matter of perspective, I think all gods are jerkass in the Dragon Ball world if you judge them with a human's perspective, all problems can be resolved by Gods doing more than they have to thus making all of them accomplices by inaction anyway, Gowasu letting someone die in front of him and the fact that he did not punish Zamasu for his transgression just make him seemed worst mainly because I have a hard time believing U7 Supreme Kais doing the same given the exact same situation, but again that is my opinion. If you read my theory clearly you know that my argument wasn't even about them being nicer, but the fact that they are completely detached from the mortals, and thus can reasonably assume to act without a mortal's perspective, "Black" I argued is a well intentioned extremist rather than a malevolent monster, being nice is not no longer an issue on the former as he believed himself to be acting on the will of Justice the fix a mistake on behave of other Gods, he could be completely ruthless and still the nicest person you can ever know, the U7 gods however due to being shown the mortal perspective through Goku and his friends are no longer capable of thinking on Black's level, while the U10 Gods are capable (lacking a substitute for mortal connection), that was my point all along. The Beerus situation is actually two fold, the most practical reason is that because Beerus is a brand new character created way after Frieza and Buu, there is no real life reason why he did not intervene in those incidents because he has not been created yet, therefore the writers have to come up with reasons (bad ones) later to make him workable in previous story lines. In story, Frieza is a nobody, one Galaxy is nothing compare to a universe and according to the most current estimates guess that there are 100 to 200 billion galaxies in the Universe, so there you go, no reason for him to wake up at all. The Buu situation is curious indeed, I gave you my theory on that but as you say it is all assumptions base on what was given, so if you have an alternate theory about how someone who is shown to be quite intend to keep on living would sleep while in danger of dying please do share, I would love to see your side. Dragon Balls are great, but I think the reason for that is because they put power into the hands of mortals, not because they have the power to subvert the gods, if time traveling was out lawed because they create problem for even gods, wouldn't Dragon Balls be out lawed or destroyed by the Gods if they are actually able to do more that the Gods themselves? From the above assumption I reason that the Gods have access to equal and greater power either through techniques, magic, or artifacts such as the time rings and do not consider Dragon Balls to be as great as you made them out to be. I am here to have fun, so if you are up to it please do question my theories, I welcome fresh perspectives from anyone especially those who takes them seriously, because I know they come from a place of love. However since this is not a forum and I don't really want to break the rules I will stop updating this WMG until it is resolved in canon, if I offended some people I am very sorry for that is never my intention, if you still disagree with me I am fine and even happy about that because I know that it means that you care, may we enjoy this new blood born so long after the end of the original for years to come still.

It's already been speculated, just not directly confirmed, that Marsters will be Zamasu in the dub, due to several factors, one being that he's a big fan of the series & wanted to make up for ''FilmDragonballEvolution'', plus Sabat's made it a habit of trying to recruit people that would both work on a meta level and their own, such as Team Four Star in ''Kai'' and ''Xenoverse'', as well as Brian Drummond in ''Super.'' It's been long talked about since around the time the fourth DLC pack for ''Xenoverse 2'' dropped, so it seems likely that it's going to be confirmed either by Sabat himself, Marsters, or someone else involved in the dub. He's not the only actor in the DB dubs that's had to take a pseudonym due to issues regarding union stuff, since Dameon Clarke had to do the same for ''Kai''. Even FUNimation are teasing an eventual reveal in their tweet revealing the character's casting in the dub, as they said to "[[https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/953072340073680897 listen out for his voice]]", so it just seems inevitable, since there ''is'' no official voice actor going by the name "David Gray" at present.

[[WMG: King Cold will be revived, and become an ArcVillain.]]
* [[SmallRoleBigImpact Despite being a major villain in-universe, he played little role in the original series.]] We now know you can revive someone after a year, but back to the state he was in the moment before he died. Compared to the diced Frieza, [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice King Cold wasn't in that bad a state]]. Like Frieza, Cold could use the same training to reach a GoldenSuperMode. King Cold is almost the same strength as Frieza in merely the form we've seen (and everything we know about his kind suggests it's not even his final form), so a golden form would be more than a match for Vegeta and Goku. Add in the fact that, from what we've seen of him, he's very clever (his first appearance had him suggesting they just blow up Earth from afar), and he'd be a truly formidable BigBad [[spoiler:who'd master his Golden State, unlike his impatient son]]. Plus it would expand on the Trade Federation, like Resurrection "F" and finally let King Cold have the major role he was implied to have. In-universe, the remnants of Frieza's army would decide to resurrect him instead of Frieza again because [[spoiler:King Cold wouldn't muck it up]]. King Cold may or may not bring back Frieza depending on whether he sees him as a lost cause, but [[MoralMyopia want to get back at Goku and friends anyway]].
** He most likely wouldn't go after them just for revenge, but rather to cement the ultimate power of the empire—''after truly restoring it''.
** But who would revive him? Anyone who would have cared to bring back Cold is dead.
** We didn't know Abo and Kado existed until ''Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return''. We didn't know Sorbet, Tagoma, and Shisami existed until ''Resurrection ‘F’''. Saying "X formerly-unseen members or admirers of the Planet Trade Organization want to restore the empire as right hands but saw what happened with Frieza's revival so decided to go with King Cold instead" isn't too far-fetched.
*** True, but wasn't it said that the soldiers we saw in [=RoF=] were all that was left?
** To bring in the "Reintroducing Movie/GT Characters" theory mentioned above, Cooler can be the one to revive King Cold. He's been biding his time quietly ruling his part of the galaxy, possibly taking over some of the planets under Frieza's control following his initial death, and after Frieza screws up again in ''Resurrection F'', he knows what not to do when he and King Cold launch their attack. Not to mention, Cooler's always been TheUnfavorite, so this finally gives him an opportunity to prove himself superior to his father.
* Alternatively(and honestly more likely), King Cold will return in the form of an alternate version from Universe 6. The [[ForWantOfANail nail]] in that universe is that King Cold did the same intense training as Frieza, and is a more active bad guy there. The Frieza of that universe could be an IneffectualSympatheticVillain by comparison, or maybe even a good guy.
** The Frieza of that universe (known as Frost) seems PRETTY similar to our Frieza, so chances are if they want to bring back King Cold without introducing a bunch of random unseen characters or complicated revivals they could just bring him in from there, which seems more likely now.
* Jossed. Only Frieza's been revived.

[[WMG: Pan will become a Super Saiyan.]]
* For God's sakes it's time!
** Considering that the first arc takes place before she's even born, we'd certainly have to have some serious timeskips for this to happen.
** This may be a possibility that will come true in the future since Videl herself was able to go ''temporarily Super Saiyan, despite being a human; she was channeling her unborn baby daughter to help Goku become a Super Saiyan God.''
*** Jossed for this series, but since ''Super'' likely isn't the end, we'll probably get some followup series where this happens.

[[WMG: Jiren will only be defeated by Goku & Vegeta working together.]]
Ultra Instinct as a form is apparently a call back to Goku & Vegeta's training with Whis before Frieza's return; movement based on pure instinct. It's also established that Ultra Instinct has two parts; attack & defense. Goku has achieved the defensive form of Ultra Instinct, but not the attack form, and as such while he can dodge with unparalleled ability, his attacks are ineffective. Going back to Whis; training, it was a point that Goku & Vegeta had opposite problems; Goku didn't think enough and let his guard down too much, Vegeta thought too much and was too tense, making him slow to react. With the hints that Vegeta will also achieve Ultra Instinct, it stands to reason that he will manage to unlock the attack mode of the form, opposite Goku. Further, another theme of the Ressurection F arc & Whis' training there in is that if Goku & Vegeta put aside their differences & fought as a cohesive unit, they'd be virtually unstoppable - in the movie verson of the story it's even stated that if they worked together they'd be capable of defeating Beerus, himself. Further, a running theme of the Tournament of Power is that several fighters, notably Goku, Vegeta, and Jiren, are all loathe to help or accept help from their team mates. Jiren only steps in when he deems an opponent worthy of fighting and rejects help from his team mates when Goku achieves Ultra Instinct. Goku & Vegeta both go off on their own & focus on fighting challenging opponents rather than working as a team, though they do occasionally help out & recieve help from others, it's a very temporary state of affairs. So, tying all these themes together, it makes the most sense for Jiren, a consummate loner on par with the Gods of Destruction, to be defeated by Goku & Vegeta finally overcoming their egos and fighting as a team, using their complimentary skills to beat an enemy on par with the Gods of Destruction, just as they were foreshadowed to do so long ago. This also leaves room for growth in future arcs, as they can be about Goku and/or Vegeta achieving Ultra Instinct completely & independently to beat the next big bad(Probably Grand Priest).
* [[spoiler: Jossed. Jiren is beaten by Goku and ''Frieza'' teaming up]].

[[WMG: Jiren's wish is to overthrow the Zenos.]]

...in which case, Jiren can restore whatever he wants. Extremely unlikely outcome but why not?
* Jossed. The manga confirms that he would use the Super Dragon Balls to revive his dead master.

* Mosko, Universe 3: The only robotic God of Destruction, he executes his job with cold, machine like logic, collecting relevant data to find planets needing to be destroyed, and then going out and doing so, regardless of everything else. Also unlike the Gods of Destruction, he is completely devoid of any emotion whatsoever, meaning one cannot gain from him sympathy or favor, and if he chooses a planet to destroy, he cannot be negotiated with or swayed against. This makes him the most efficient of all the Gods of Destruction in carrying out his job, equal in quality, if not more so, than Ramuushi. The same lack of emotion also make him the only God of Destruction to not be afraid of Zen'O. However, he does pays his respects to the little guy, as Mosko is at the very least 3rd Law compliant. His Angel is basically the guy maintaining him, providing repairs to his physical body and does programming work on his AI to make sure it is running smoothly with as little bugs as possible. Mosko's angel is also in charge of situations that require actual emotion and critical decision making, thus the angel may be the one choosing their universe's fighters.
** [[spoiler: Jossed. [[UnroboticReveal Mosco is actually a mech suit]] hiding Mule, the real god of destruction.]]

* TheLancer: Cabba. He, with Frost, seems to get the most focus. Perhaps, like Freeza, Frost rules the Saiyans and made them his army. However Frost is doing it to keep the peace, with Cabba acting as Saiyan Saga Vegeta's GoodCounterpart. [[spoiler: Jossed. Cabba does know Frost, but only worked with him a few times and Frost is a scambag cheater who is just as bad as Frieza]].

Judging from Megetta's abilities, I postulate that rather than being living machines, the Metal Men are a race of living globes of maga-perhaps some kind of elemental creature of earth and fire? The ones from Universe 6 use mechanical suits to contain themselves for whatever reason-but the ones in Universe 7 do not or use some other method, and thus are called something diferant, explaining why Elder Kai and Kibito don't know what they are despite the Supreme Kai from universe 6 saying they should exist in 7.

[[WMG: Monaka is genuinely one of the strongest fighters in Universe 7.]]
Beerus was telling a half-truth; Monaka is a legitimately devastating opponent and hero to his people. It's been established with characters like the Galactic King that Frieza, even before training, is still considered the bar of strong opponents to this day. Even [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking the Galactic King]] doesn't compare. Frieza mentioned to Piccolo on Namek that he's never had to use his third form(which has a power level in the millions, making it a fraction of his full strength); in other words, the strongest person(besides Frieza) in the entire Milky Way galaxy, prior to the Namek Saga, has a maximum power level of a million-practically nothing compared to even Fat Buu.

Monaka is actually one of the top 10 strongest people living in the entire universe; he's massively OP compared to the greatest fighters excluding the Z-Fighters, but massively under-powered compared to the DB Super fighters. Beerus considers him an amateur because of how OvershadowedByAwesome he is; Beerus puts the bar of strength on relatively absurd levels. In terms of power, he's somewhere between Android 17/18 and Perfect Cell.
* He cried when Trunks elbowed him, so this is highly unlikely.
** Though considering base Trunks would far surpass 1st form Freeza on Namek, who was ''already'' one of the strongest beings in Universe 7 before the Z-Fighters, androids and magic bubblegum got involved...
** Apparently jossed; he's a deliveryman.

* Arak, Universe 5: Contrary to the other Gods of Destruction, who mostly leaves mortals to handle their own affairs, Arak actually governs his universe aside from the Kais. He does this byy completely controlling one single, very important aspect: Money, Money, Money (''[[ThatRemindsMeOfASong Mooooooon-NEH!]]'') Whether the source is legitimate or illegal, Arak controls all monetary transactions that occurs in his universe, obsessed with the very concepts of finance, economics, and commerce to the point were he feels near orgasmic joy as profits rise and debilitating depression as they fall. The fate of a planet entirely depends on how profitable they are, as those that do not meet up with a certain profit quota, they are destroyed. And if a planet cannot pay up in cash, he will accept other means of payment in for of tiffs to be exchange for actual money. In order to run such a massive financial empire, he hires out a literal legion of employees, ranging from accountants and advisers to enforcers and collectors, and while he treats all his employees well, any he catches skimming off the top is automatically destroyed......or even their entire race, planet, solar system, or even ''galaxy'' depending on how much is taken. Despite being literally the richest being in his universe, he himself is extremely stingy. He'll only eat the cheapest junk and fast food, use only hand-me-down furniture, and his planet is extremely spartan to the point of looking like its nearly abandoned. If he has any sort of lavish objects and/or signs of opulence, those was usually goods he is keeping until he sells them off, and/or trophies of those he had destroyed as a warning to others not to cross him. His Angel is basically Arak's top assistant and enforcer, handling much of paperwork and administrative aspects as well as making sure people pay up when the times comes, even taking them to Arak himself to negotiate......or to be executed.....

* Arack's character profile states he's really cautious and wants to expand the universe's development with the minimal amount of destruction, while Liquiir is proud, jovial and ThePerfectionist. Either Arack is a NiceGuy and Liquiir is a cruel god that happens to be really LawfulEvil (though [[EvenEvilHasStandards even he hates how universes were erased]]), or one's serious and all-business while the other is a lot more amiable. Iru is described as ambitious and Ogma as someone who prefers a balance of knowledge and power. Iru is probably more adventurous and willing to take a risk while Ogma, much like Sour, doesn't want to rock the boat. Given Universe 5's rank is higher than Universe 8, Ogma clearly knows what she's doing more so than Iru. Cukatail is notably one of the few angels who seems perturbed at the destruction the universe, despite it not even being his universe which is at risk. If so, Korn probably is one of the more amoral angels like Mojito.

** It's a completely new alien.

Otherwise someone would've probably used it to usurp Zeno's position/destroy him, like Champa/Beerus because of how scared they are of him, or Zamasu [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim wishing all the mortals dead immediately]]. People assume they can wish for anything because they are ''immensely'' stronger than the normal Dragonballs, so they seem infinite. Alternatively Super Shenron can grant any wish, but there some wishes [[EveryoneHasStandards he refuses to do so]]. Such as going "I wish I switched bodies with Zen'o" and Super Shenron narking your ass by teleporting you to a very annoyed Zen'o. It would explain how Zen'o has managed to retain his position despite his oblivious nature and a bunch of ultra-powerful wishing orbs. There's a good chance the gods at least believe there's some wishes you can't grant, which is why there hasn't been a real effort.

since Zamasu decided to fuse with another version of him self, he created a universe destroying paradox when he died since as black goku needed a time ring to still exist and it was destroyed when merged Zamasu died.