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[[WMG: Rikka actually chased a white rabbit down a hole]]
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* Both series have NiceHat wearing StealthMentor who gave the main character their TransformationTrinket in the first episode, appeared occasionally since then, and later turned out to be someone who was deeply involved in the main conflict of the story. Both Yushima and Joe also reveal and explain their involvements in episode 18. And when they got serious, they ditched the hats.
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* Both series have NiceHat hat wearing StealthMentor who gave the main character their TransformationTrinket in the first episode, appeared occasionally since then, and later turned out to be someone who was deeply involved in the main conflict of the story. Both Yushima and Joe also reveal and explain their involvements in episode 18. And when they got serious, they ditched the hats.
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[[WMG: The series is a big, giant {{Homage}} to ''Anime/DigimonSavers''.]]
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[[WMG: The series is a big, giant {{Homage}} to ''Anime/DigimonSavers''.''Anime/DigimonDataSquad''.]]
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* [[EnigmaticEmpoweringEntity Joe]]: he's already creepily close to Mana since the start. Also, he's always calling her 'My Sweet Heart'. Him being Marie-Ange's fiance sunk the ship...at first. But then we have a certain revelation: [[spoiler:that Marie-Ange has been split into three underaged girls, one of which is a baby he's been taking care of]]. [[spoiler:If Marie-Ange isn't going to back without sacrificing her LiteralSplitPersonalities (which is against Mana's ideal), and Joe can't stand TheJailBaitWait, he might go with Mana after all.]]
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* [[EnigmaticEmpoweringEntity Joe]]: he's already creepily close to Mana since the start. Also, he's always calling her 'My Sweet Heart'. Him being Marie-Ange's fiance sunk the ship...at first. But then we have a certain revelation: [[spoiler:that Marie-Ange has been split into three underaged girls, one of which is a baby he's been taking care of]]. [[spoiler:If Marie-Ange isn't going to back without sacrificing her LiteralSplitPersonalities (which is against Mana's ideal), and Joe can't stand TheJailBaitWait, he might go with Mana after all.]]
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mostly putting jossed. also correcting a spelling error.
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**confirmed with lust and goma. however,not much is known about them.
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**Whoever put this here,you predicted star twinkle before anyone else.
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**Unlike those two,she didn't actually become a cure.
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* Explained in 46 [[spoiler: Aguri and regina are two halfs from Marie-Ange Psyche, and Ai-Chan is the body of Marie-Ange]].
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* Explained in 46 [[spoiler: Aguri and regina are two halfs halves from Marie-Ange Psyche, and Ai-Chan is the body of Marie-Ange]].
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[[WMG: Rikka actually chased a white rabbit down a hole]]
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* The SixthRanger of both series are TokenMiniMoe voiced by Creator/RieKugimiya.
* A TerribleTrio consisting of an easily irritated guy who itches for a fight, a vain female strategist, and another muscled guy...Ira, Marmo, and Bel, or Kouki, Nanami, and Ivan?
* Marmo's Beast Mode transformation being a rose with paralyzing whip vines is a homage to Rosemon and her Ivy Hug move.
* Super Bel is an obvious homage to the unchained Belphemon Rage Mode, muscles and all. Both are defeated in Episode 38.
* A TerribleTrio consisting of an easily irritated guy who itches for a fight, a vain female strategist, and another muscled guy...Ira, Marmo, and Bel, or Kouki, Nanami, and Ivan?
* Marmo's Beast Mode transformation being a rose with paralyzing whip vines is a homage to Rosemon and her Ivy Hug move.
* Super Bel is an obvious homage to the unchained Belphemon Rage Mode, muscles and all. Both are defeated in Episode 38.
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* Both series' movies feature a part where the critters are trying to save their partners from the eternal sleep with the aid of another critter who is closely related to the movie's villain.
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* The usage of SevenDeadlySins as antagonistic forces are prominent in both series.
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* The usage of SevenDeadlySins as antagonistic forces are prominent in both series. [[{{Sloth}} Bel]] being the most prominent villain after BigBad King Jikochu and TheDragon Regina is a homage to Belphemon being the ClimaxBoss of ''Savers''.
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* The purple-themed main characters are associated with birds and bladed weapons, and they hailed from another world (or in Ikuto's case, he ''thought'' so).
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* The purple-themed main characters are associated with birds and bladed weapons, and they hailed were once proud warriors from another world (or in Ikuto's case, he ''thought'' so).
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* The main character got exposed to the series' parallel world at roughly the same timing (episode 5 for ''Savers'', episode 7 for ''DokiDoki'') and using the same method (both parties were trying to chase off the previous episode's MonsterOfTheWeek).
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* The main character got exposed to the series' parallel another world at roughly the same timing (episode 5 for ''Savers'', episode 7 for ''DokiDoki'') ''[=DokiDoki=]'') and using the same method (both parties were trying to chase off the previous episode's MonsterOfTheWeek).
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..This comes from two different events in the series. Ai-Chan and Cure Ace hated carrots as reveal in Episode 37. In the cold opening of Episode 39, Regina complains about the octopus in her octopus balls to Bel.. Ai-Chan, Cure Ace, and Regina are the pieces of Princess Marie-Ange. So, this explains this WMG! Enjoy!
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..This comes from two different events in the series. Ai-Chan and Cure Ace hated carrots as reveal in Episode 37. In the cold opening of Episode 39, Regina complains about the octopus in her octopus balls to Bel.. Ai-Chan, Cure Ace, and Regina are the pieces of Princess Marie-Ange. So, this explains this WMG! Enjoy!Enjoy!
[[WMG: The series is a big, giant {{Homage}} to ''Anime/DigimonSavers''.]]
Even though both series were written by the same guy, Ryota Yamaguchi, that doesn't excuse the very similar story elements and characters that both use.
* Mana's name was clearly inspired by Masaru, with both having repeating pronounciation through AlternateCharacterReading of their first name. Just compare Masaru's "daimon dai" to Mana's "aida ai".
* The usage of SevenDeadlySins as antagonistic forces are prominent in both series.
* The initial four Cures have the same color scheme as the main four characters of ''Savers''.
* The blue-themed main characters both join at episode 3.
* The purple-themed main characters are associated with birds and bladed weapons, and they hailed from another world (or in Ikuto's case, he ''thought'' so).
* One of the main characters in both series is a prestigious noble with a BattleButler on their side. But unlike Tohma's, Alice's family is fully Japanese.
* The main character got exposed to the series' parallel world at roughly the same timing (episode 5 for ''Savers'', episode 7 for ''DokiDoki'') and using the same method (both parties were trying to chase off the previous episode's MonsterOfTheWeek).
* Both series have NiceHat wearing StealthMentor who gave the main character their TransformationTrinket in the first episode, appeared occasionally since then, and later turned out to be someone who was deeply involved in the main conflict of the story. Both Yushima and Joe also reveal and explain their involvements in episode 18. And when they got serious, they ditched the hats.
* Regina's start of HeelFaceTurn almost mimics Ikuto's, what with her and Mana being trapped in an icy cave and questioning why did Mana save her from the cave-in being similar to Ikuto and Masaru's circumstance. And then Mana let Regina to stay in her house for a while, just like Masaru letting Ikuto to stay in his.
* SinkOrSwimMentor who saved the main characters from being curb-stomped by the villain's newly-acquired power and helped them to achieve the next power-up? Aguri/Cure Ace, or [=BanchouLeomon=]? [[spoiler:Both of them being aspects of their respective series' TheHeavy helps, too.]]
* The BattleAura the Cures received during Cure Ace's training arc heavily resembles the Digisoul aura that enables Digisoul Charge Overdrive.
* Both series have a character who disappeared before the start of the story and finding them is the main goal of both series. [[spoiler:Turns out they are on the villain's side now. Or [[GrandTheftMe do]] [[LiteralSplitPersonality they]]? The WhamEpisode for the massive plot twists happened in episode 45 for both series, with their respective episode 46 served as the explanations. Unlike [=BanchouLeomon=], Aguri didn't make a HeroicSacrifice. And unlike Suguru, Marie-Ange stays dead due to Regina, Aguri, and Ai becoming their own persons.]]
* Both series' EstablishingCharacterMoment involve one of the main characters running into fighting students. While Masaru already beaten up the gang by the time Yoshino arrived there, Mana managed to stop the students from fighting.
* Nikaidou is a delinquent and he just happens to have a loyal best friend who calls him "aniki". Their dynamic is basically a downplayed {{Expy}} of Masaru and Agumon's.
* Rikka doing well in a piano recital during the movie's flashback is an obvious homage to Yoshino, who harbored a very deep trauma of the same event.
* So on, and so forth...
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[[WMG: The series is a big, giant {{Homage}} to ''Anime/DigimonSavers''.]]
Even though both series were written by the same guy, Ryota Yamaguchi, that doesn't excuse the very similar story elements and characters that both use.
* Mana's name was clearly inspired by Masaru, with both having repeating pronounciation through AlternateCharacterReading of their first name. Just compare Masaru's "daimon dai" to Mana's "aida ai".
* The usage of SevenDeadlySins as antagonistic forces are prominent in both series.
* The initial four Cures have the same color scheme as the main four characters of ''Savers''.
* The blue-themed main characters both join at episode 3.
* The purple-themed main characters are associated with birds and bladed weapons, and they hailed from another world (or in Ikuto's case, he ''thought'' so).
* One of the main characters in both series is a prestigious noble with a BattleButler on their side. But unlike Tohma's, Alice's family is fully Japanese.
* The main character got exposed to the series' parallel world at roughly the same timing (episode 5 for ''Savers'', episode 7 for ''DokiDoki'') and using the same method (both parties were trying to chase off the previous episode's MonsterOfTheWeek).
* Both series have NiceHat wearing StealthMentor who gave the main character their TransformationTrinket in the first episode, appeared occasionally since then, and later turned out to be someone who was deeply involved in the main conflict of the story. Both Yushima and Joe also reveal and explain their involvements in episode 18. And when they got serious, they ditched the hats.
* Regina's start of HeelFaceTurn almost mimics Ikuto's, what with her and Mana being trapped in an icy cave and questioning why did Mana save her from the cave-in being similar to Ikuto and Masaru's circumstance. And then Mana let Regina to stay in her house for a while, just like Masaru letting Ikuto to stay in his.
* SinkOrSwimMentor who saved the main characters from being curb-stomped by the villain's newly-acquired power and helped them to achieve the next power-up? Aguri/Cure Ace, or [=BanchouLeomon=]? [[spoiler:Both of them being aspects of their respective series' TheHeavy helps, too.]]
* The BattleAura the Cures received during Cure Ace's training arc heavily resembles the Digisoul aura that enables Digisoul Charge Overdrive.
* Both series have a character who disappeared before the start of the story and finding them is the main goal of both series. [[spoiler:Turns out they are on the villain's side now. Or [[GrandTheftMe do]] [[LiteralSplitPersonality they]]? The WhamEpisode for the massive plot twists happened in episode 45 for both series, with their respective episode 46 served as the explanations. Unlike [=BanchouLeomon=], Aguri didn't make a HeroicSacrifice. And unlike Suguru, Marie-Ange stays dead due to Regina, Aguri, and Ai becoming their own persons.]]
* Both series' EstablishingCharacterMoment involve one of the main characters running into fighting students. While Masaru already beaten up the gang by the time Yoshino arrived there, Mana managed to stop the students from fighting.
* Nikaidou is a delinquent and he just happens to have a loyal best friend who calls him "aniki". Their dynamic is basically a downplayed {{Expy}} of Masaru and Agumon's.
* Rikka doing well in a piano recital during the movie's flashback is an obvious homage to Yoshino, who harbored a very deep trauma of the same event.
* So on, and so forth...
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[[WMG:Related to the Cure Rosetta going berserk WMG above, she will eventually use one of her usually defensive attacks in an offensive way, a la [[YesPrettyCure5 Cure Mint]].]]
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[[WMG:Related to the Cure Rosetta going berserk WMG above, she will eventually use one of her usually defensive attacks in an offensive way, a la [[YesPrettyCure5 [[Anime/YesPrettyCure5 Cure Mint]].]]
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Possibly the Eternal Golden Crown. Regina has blue eyes, she has glown in a blue light and the crown belonged to the blue Cure. Regina's name means "queen" and there was an evil organization called [[YesPrettyCure5GoGo Eternal]]. The Miracle Dragon Glaive would also fit, as one of Regina's theme colors is red. The red Cure has also a ribbon on her head. The glaive is owned by Marie-Ange, but we haven't seen it again.
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Possibly the Eternal Golden Crown. Regina has blue eyes, she has glown in a blue light and the crown belonged to the blue Cure. Regina's name means "queen" and there was an evil organization called [[YesPrettyCure5GoGo [[Anime/YesPrettyCure5GoGo Eternal]]. The Miracle Dragon Glaive would also fit, as one of Regina's theme colors is red. The red Cure has also a ribbon on her head. The glaive is owned by Marie-Ange, but we haven't seen it again.
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..This comes from two different events in the series. Ai-Chan and Cure Ace hated carrots as reveal in Episode 37. In the cold opening of Episode 39, Regina complains about the octopus in her octopus balls to Bel.. Ai-Chan, Cure Ace, and Regina are the pieces of Princess Marie-Ange. So, this explains this WMG! Enjoy!
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..This comes from two different events in the series. Ai-Chan and Cure Ace hated carrots as reveal in Episode 37. In the cold opening of Episode 39, Regina complains about the octopus in her octopus balls to Bel.. Ai-Chan, Cure Ace, and Regina are the pieces of Princess Marie-Ange. So, this explains this WMG! Enjoy!
Enjoy!
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[WMG: Princess Marie-Ange hated carrots and octopus ]]
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[WMG: Princess Marie-Ange hated carrots and octopus ]]
..This comes from two different events in the series. Ai-Chan and Cure Ace hated carrots as reveal in Episode 37. In the cold opening of Episode 39, Regina complains about the octopus in her octopus balls to Bel.. Ai-Chan, Cure Ace, and Regina are the pieces of Princess Marie-Ange. So, this explains this WMG! Enjoy!
..This comes from two different events in the series. Ai-Chan and Cure Ace hated carrots as reveal in Episode 37. In the cold opening of Episode 39, Regina complains about the octopus in her octopus balls to Bel.. Ai-Chan, Cure Ace, and Regina are the pieces of Princess Marie-Ange. So, this explains this WMG! Enjoy!
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[[WMG: The original plan for Cure Ace was the following....]]
...Cure Heart would one again heal Regina from her brainwashing -- and becoming a different person -- Princess Marie Ange. The gang goes to see the ice statue -- and discover it's a female fairy named Seva (Short for Seven). Seva gives Marie Ange her item of last resort: The Love Eves Palette -- allowing Marie Ange to become Cure Ace. This idea was shelved because the studio was worry on the low rantings -- so they come up with Aquri on the spot. They pull out the original plan for Cure Ace for another Cure in a later series: [[Anime/GoPrincessPrettyCure Princess Twlight/Princess Towa/Cure Scarlett]]
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[[WMG: Whoever MayumiTanaka will voice here in this one will be a RubberMan and will be the BigBad]]
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[[WMG: Whoever MayumiTanaka Creator/MayumiTanaka will voice here in this one will be a RubberMan and will be the BigBad]]
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** [[spoiler:Apparently confirmed. Cure Ace' seiyuu is confirmed as RieKugimiya. Marie-Ange's seiyuu is still unknown, but you can clearly hear that she's definitely not voiced by Kugimiya (different voice, different dialect).]]
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** [[spoiler:Apparently confirmed. Cure Ace' seiyuu is confirmed as RieKugimiya.Creator/RieKugimiya. Marie-Ange's seiyuu is still unknown, but you can clearly hear that she's definitely not voiced by Kugimiya (different voice, different dialect).]]
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* The second point is confirmed. While its canonity is debatable, some of the things from the movie do get referenced in the series itself, particularly in episode 48.
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He ends up being like the [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Starlights]] and is actually a female in a male's body who transforms into Cure Joker.
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He ends up being like the [[Manga/SailorMoon [[Anime/SailorMoon Sailor Starlights]] and is actually a female in a male's body who transforms into Cure Joker.
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More specifically, Regina is actually Marie-Ange's Jikochuu (after all, Marmo ''did'' almost make one from her in episode 7), who was made to believe that she was always his daughter. (And if Regina is indeed Ace, this would sort of explain why she looks quite a bit like Ange when transformed.) Ai-chan, on the other hand, is the incarnation of all of the princess' positive energy, sort of like Chibi-Chibi in the ''Manga/SailorMoon'' anime. Only when the two merge will Ange come back.
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More specifically, Regina is actually Marie-Ange's Jikochuu (after all, Marmo ''did'' almost make one from her in episode 7), who was made to believe that she was always his daughter. (And if Regina is indeed Ace, this would sort of explain why she looks quite a bit like Ange when transformed.) Ai-chan, on the other hand, is the incarnation of all of the princess' positive energy, sort of like Chibi-Chibi in the ''Manga/SailorMoon'' ''Anime/SailorMoon'' anime. Only when the two merge will Ange come back.
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* '''Some form of astro-projection of Marie Ange's subconsciousness''': Like [[Franchise/SailorMoon Moonlight Knight]].
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* '''Some form of astro-projection of Marie Ange's subconsciousness''': Like [[Franchise/SailorMoon [[Anime/SailorMoon Moonlight Knight]].
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Not only he takes over both [[BigBad King Jikochuu]] ''and'' [[TheDragon Regina]], he also becomes the FinalBoss.]][[spoiler:[[DevourTheDragon ...sorta.]]
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Not only he takes over both [[BigBad King Jikochuu]] ''and'' [[TheDragon Regina]], he also becomes the FinalBoss.]][[spoiler:[[DevourTheDragon ...sorta.]]
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** well, as the opening of the movie has been leaked for a while, let's just say that [[spoiler:Mana had such a LightmareFuel regarding this prospect.]]
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** Confirmed in Official Complete Book. Specifically, Cure Magician wield Miracle Dragon Glaive, and Cure Priestess had the Eternal Dragon Crown.
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** Confirmed in Official Complete Book. Specifically, Cure Magician wield Miracle Dragon Glaive, and Cure Priestess had the Eternal Dragon Golden Crown.
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Not only he takes over both [[BigBad King Jikochuu]] ''and'' [[TheDragon Regina]], he also becomes the FinalBoss.]]
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Not only he takes over both [[BigBad King Jikochuu]] ''and'' [[TheDragon Regina]], he also becomes the FinalBoss.]][[spoiler:[[DevourTheDragon ...sorta.]]
** the writers wanted to do this, but it was denied by the producer in an instant. So, jossed.
** there were plans to make his crush more apparent and that Mana would notice him. As it would make Mana OutOfCharacter, they were dropped. Jossed.
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** the writers once considered Mana to fall in love with [[spoiler:Alice's brother Hiromichi (who never existed in show proper)]]. Got axed because it won't suit Mana's character. Jossed.
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** Confirmed in Official Complete Book. The one representing Lust is named Lust (no, not that [[Manga/FullMetalAlchemist Lust]]) and the one representing Pride is Gooma (from "gouman", Japanese of "pride").
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** Confirmed in Official Complete Book. Specifically, Cure Magician wield Miracle Dragon Glaive, and Cure Priestess had the Eternal Dragon Crown.
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* He called Mana "My Sweet Heart" twice in episode 1, so it's quite likely he will do the same for the other three, calling Rikka "Twinkle Diamond", Alice "Rosetta Wall", and Makoto "Holy Sword".
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He called Mana "My Sweet Heart" twice in episode 1, so it's quite likely he will do the same for the other three, calling Rikka "Twinkle Diamond", Alice "Rosetta Wall", and Makoto "Holy Sword".
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* He called Mana "My Sweet Heart" twice in episode 1, so it's quite likely he will do the same for the other three, calling Rikka "Twinkle Diamond", Alice "Rosetta Wall", and Makoto "Holy Sword".
* Apparently jossed.
* Apparently jossed.
