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1st May '18 2:34:53 AM GhostlyBrony
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** In the Old Testament and in Jewish thought Satan is thought of more as a "celestial prosecutor" meant to test the moral worthiness of humans. This is showcased pretty clearly in the Book of Job. If you wanted to go with this interpretation Satan was meant to moderate the Earth, but became too complacent with the morality of the demons and started making excuses for them. God of course went Noah's Flood/Sodom and Gomorah on their asses, and Satan wasn't happy about it.



* Likewise in the manga Akira fought Sirene first and then Jinmen, in the OVA and Crybabyhe fought Jinmen before Sirene.

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* Likewise in the manga Akira fought Sirene first and then Jinmen, in the OVA and Crybabyhe Crybaby he fought Jinmen before Sirene.Sirene.

[[WMG: God is testing humanity and Satan with the time loops]]
* The real purpose of the time loops is to get humanity and Satan/Ryo to understand the true value of love. The fact that they consistently fuck up and give in to their paranoia and violent, hateful emotions deeply disappoints him -- explaining why he keeps resetting the loop. The one time that they actually pass his test and don't fuck up the planet, God will leave them be and let time pass normally with no further resets.
22nd Apr '18 12:29:29 PM JacobBurt
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[[WMG: In at least one timeline, Miki and Siren became a Devilman team like Akira and Amon]]

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[[WMG: In at least one timeline, Miki and Siren Sirene became a Devilman team like Akira and Amon]]


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[[WMG: There are minor changes with each Time Loop]]
* In the first version of Devilman, when Akira put on the Demon Mask he saw a moth/butterfly demon named Irufuno being killed by a stag beetle/sauropod demon named Waze, but in the OVA Devilman: the Birth Irufuno Merged with a plant demon and killed Waze.
* In the first edition of Devilman the spider demons invading the school are lead by the Demon General Zann, while in the Delux Edition they were lead by a demon spider web named Rasber.
* In the manga and Cyborg009VsDevilman, Jinmen used a little girl Akira used to babysit as his shield in his shell, in the OVA, Novel and DEVILMANCrybaby it was Akira’s mother.
* Likewise in the manga Akira fought Sirene first and then Jinmen, in the OVA and Crybabyhe fought Jinmen before Sirene.
28th Mar '18 8:19:58 PM HeroSeeker
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[[WMG: God began the Time Loops because Satan has inadvertently made it now impossible for Humans and Demons to co-exist when he was meant to do the opposite.]]
It seems odd that when at the beginning of the whole descent into madness for Satan God just told him to simply kill all the demons, not even bothering with what may happen to the humans and other inhabitants of the world. What if instead of just doing as he was told Satan was meant to be a MODERATOR that became TOO sympathetic to the demon's plight or they possessed him and twisted his thoughts to only pity them rather then help them make peace with humanity?
25th Feb '18 11:54:56 AM Farnham
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God only seems to reset everything after Satan kills Akira, Satan only kills Akira because he’s being relentless during the final battle, Akira is so unrelenting because Miki and her family are dead, Miki and Tare were killed by a lynch mob and her parents were [[PoliceBrutality tortured to death by the Demon Busters]]. The reason these horrible fates befell them was because Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman, and Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman because he was jealous of how close Miki and Akira were. Therefore if Satan respects Akira’s wishes and doesn’t reveal his identity, the Makimuras survive, Akira and Ryo’s friendship is maintained, [[DidntSeeThatComing God is thrown through a loop]], [[VillainousBreakdown attacks the earth]] [[MoralEventHorizon with the intention of destroying both demonkind and humanity]], the Demon Legions and Devilman Corps join forces to drive God back into space, Satan and the angels God abandoned in his retreat chase after him, some odd years later Akira and Miki are married and have a son they named Ryo.

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God only seems to reset everything after Satan kills Akira, Satan only kills Akira because he’s being relentless during the final battle, Akira is so unrelenting because Miki and her family are dead, Miki and Tare were killed by a lynch mob and her parents were [[PoliceBrutality tortured to death by the Demon Busters]]. The reason these horrible fates befell them was because Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman, and Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman because he was jealous of how close Miki and Akira were. Therefore if Satan respects Akira’s wishes and doesn’t reveal his identity, the Makimuras survive, Akira and Ryo’s friendship is maintained, [[DidntSeeThatComing God is thrown through a loop]], [[VillainousBreakdown attacks the earth]] [[MoralEventHorizon with the intention of destroying both demonkind and humanity]], the Demon Legions and Devilman Corps join forces to drive God back into space, Satan and the angels God abandoned in his retreat chase after him, and some odd years later Akira and Miki are married and have a son they named Ryo.
25th Feb '18 11:53:30 AM Farnham
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God only seems to reset everything after Satan kills Akira, Satan only kills Akira because he’s being relentless during the final battle, Akira is so unrelenting because Miki and her family are dead, Miki and Tare were killed by a lynch mob and her parents were [[PoliceBrutality torchered to death by the Demon Busters]], the reason these horrible fates befell them was because Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman, Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman because he was jealous of how close Miki and Akira were. Therefore if Satan respects Akira’s wishes and doesn’t reveal his identity, the Makimuras survive, Akira and Ryo’s friendship is maintained, [[DidntSeeThatComing God is thrown through a loop]], [[VillainousBreakdown attacks the earth]] [[MoralEventHorizon with the intention of destroying both demon kind and humanity]], the Demon Legions and Devilman Corps join forces to drive God back into space, Satan and the angels God abandoned in his retreat chase after him, some odd years later Akira and Miki are married and have a son they named Ryo.

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God only seems to reset everything after Satan kills Akira, Satan only kills Akira because he’s being relentless during the final battle, Akira is so unrelenting because Miki and her family are dead, Miki and Tare were killed by a lynch mob and her parents were [[PoliceBrutality torchered tortured to death by the Demon Busters]], the Busters]]. The reason these horrible fates befell them was because Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman, and Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman because he was jealous of how close Miki and Akira were. Therefore if Satan respects Akira’s wishes and doesn’t reveal his identity, the Makimuras survive, Akira and Ryo’s friendship is maintained, [[DidntSeeThatComing God is thrown through a loop]], [[VillainousBreakdown attacks the earth]] [[MoralEventHorizon with the intention of destroying both demon kind demonkind and humanity]], the Demon Legions and Devilman Corps join forces to drive God back into space, Satan and the angels God abandoned in his retreat chase after him, some odd years later Akira and Miki are married and have a son they named Ryo.
16th Feb '18 10:45:37 PM JacobBurt
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God only seems to reset everything after Satan kills Akira, Satan only kills Akira because he’s being relentless during the final battle, Akira is so unrelenting because Miki and her family are dead, Miki and Tare were killed by a lynch mob and her parents were [[PoliceBrutality torchered to death by the Demon Busters]], the reason these horrible fates befell them was because Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman, Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman because he was jealous of how close Miki and Akira were. Therefore if Satan respects Akira’s wishes and doesn’t reveal his identity, the Makimuras survive, Akira and Ryo’s friendship is maintained, [[DidntSeeThatComing God is thrown through a loop]], [[ VillainousBreakdown attacks the earth]] [[MoralEventHorizon with the intention of destroying both demon kind and humanity]], the Demon Legions and Devilman Corps join forces to drive God back into space, Satan and the angels God abandoned in his retreat chase after him, some odd years later Akira and Miki are married and have a son they named Ryo.

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God only seems to reset everything after Satan kills Akira, Satan only kills Akira because he’s being relentless during the final battle, Akira is so unrelenting because Miki and her family are dead, Miki and Tare were killed by a lynch mob and her parents were [[PoliceBrutality torchered to death by the Demon Busters]], the reason these horrible fates befell them was because Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman, Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman because he was jealous of how close Miki and Akira were. Therefore if Satan respects Akira’s wishes and doesn’t reveal his identity, the Makimuras survive, Akira and Ryo’s friendship is maintained, [[DidntSeeThatComing God is thrown through a loop]], [[ VillainousBreakdown [[VillainousBreakdown attacks the earth]] [[MoralEventHorizon with the intention of destroying both demon kind and humanity]], the Demon Legions and Devilman Corps join forces to drive God back into space, Satan and the angels God abandoned in his retreat chase after him, some odd years later Akira and Miki are married and have a son they named Ryo.
16th Feb '18 10:44:48 PM JacobBurt
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[[WMG: The only way to stop the time loop is for Satan to accept that Akira doesn’t reciprocate their feelings and [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy allow him to to be with Miki]].]]
God only seems to reset everything after Satan kills Akira, Satan only kills Akira because he’s being relentless during the final battle, Akira is so unrelenting because Miki and her family are dead, Miki and Tare were killed by a lynch mob and her parents were [[PoliceBrutality torchered to death by the Demon Busters]], the reason these horrible fates befell them was because Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman, Ryo exposed Akira as a devilman because he was jealous of how close Miki and Akira were. Therefore if Satan respects Akira’s wishes and doesn’t reveal his identity, the Makimuras survive, Akira and Ryo’s friendship is maintained, [[DidntSeeThatComing God is thrown through a loop]], [[ VillainousBreakdown attacks the earth]] [[MoralEventHorizon with the intention of destroying both demon kind and humanity]], the Demon Legions and Devilman Corps join forces to drive God back into space, Satan and the angels God abandoned in his retreat chase after him, some odd years later Akira and Miki are married and have a son they named Ryo.
10th Jan '18 10:34:13 PM hellwolf99
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[[WMG: Satan is experiencing moral decay as a result of his eternal punishment.]]

Some fans have noticed that Ryo/Satan is a lot more of a {{Jerkass}} in ''Crybaby'' compared to the rest of the series, even lacking his epiphany that he's just as bad as God. This may be a result of him being forced into an endless loop of lifetimes where he falls in love with Akira and then has to deal with his inevitable death subconsciously wearing down on him, even if he doesn't know it's happening.
16th Aug '17 2:34:35 PM Tezcats
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[[WMG: God is dying]]

Satan says that he "won" when he fought against God and then froze himself. Why would he decide to freeze ? Because he landed a killing blow on God, but needed to wait until God ended "bleeding out". God's actions during the bombing are actually his final death and the angels coming to Satan are seeking revenge for the death of their father.
12th Aug '17 6:15:28 PM Lokiaesir
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[[WMG: In at least one timeline, Miki and Siren became a Devilman team like Akira and Amon]]

Because at some point, Siren's going to realize the obvious win-win of becoming one with Miki would allow her to be with Amon, keep Miki alive, and possibly avert the rebooting nature of the universe/
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