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[[WMG: When Alex and Ryan finally throw down, they will both survive by mere coincidence.]]
Bear with me here, let me say why that's how it's gonna happen.
* Alex is already looking for ways to subvert the Prophecy that Alex must either kill Ryan or be killed by him.
* The flashbacks, in addition to prevent someone like the Sovereign from rewriting them, are to get Ryan up to speed in case he fails to find [[TakeAThirdOption A Third Option]] that ends with them both surviving, so that Ryan can pick up the slack. His method of storytelling are intentionally to get Ryan thinking so that he can [[FigureItOutYourself figure things out himself]] and be a proper Game Master.
* "''...if there's one thing [=VideoLand=] can abide less than a coincidence, it's an anti-climactic resolution.''"

Ergo, Alex will not complain when a coincidental event causes a ProphecyTwist that prevents either of them from needing to die, because [=VideoLand=] could always have gone with the anti-climactic outcome instead.
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** Not actually the case. Since this is Alex we can assume that Cara is level 99. If Cara has the Kaiser Knuckles accessory equipped (which increases the attack power of unarmed attacks) casts Quick (which gets her two turns in an instant) and does a critical hit on all four attacks she will in fact hit the damage cap four times.
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[[WMG: Alex is using the flashbacks to cover any holes]]
It's implied if not outright stated that Videoland and it's people are influenced by the Game Master and his perception of them. It's why Cecil was leveled to max and had 99 Excaliburs while Edward was named Spoony and had no experience fighting, because that's the way Alex played the game. It's also why Ryan could understand Chrono and Green Megaman, both of whom Alex considered silent protagonists and thus couldn't hear. Alex, as the current Game Master, seems to have the most control currently over establishing how Videoland or the characters work based on his perception of them. But there are a multitude of events that he was not present for and reasonably speaking, there is no way he could have known everything that was said or done when he wasn't there, nor could he even know for sure when exactly these events occurred in time. That's because Alex using these flashbacks to fill in the holes he did not personally witness in order to leave little room for manipulation. Because Ryan is sitting in on the story as Alex is telling it, Alex is setting the framework for anything Ryan could perceive and thus limiting how much Ryan could alter through his ability as a Game Master. It's hardly even questioned that Alex could be lying about any of it, Ryan just seems to be listening and accepting everything as factual accounts of events even to the point of being able to view the flashbacks and understand parts that Alex didn't. Now that Ryan is informed of what events happened and what certain characters are like, they're set and he can't change them. Similarly, it's been shown that the Sovereign of Sorrow can alter past events to an extent and "fill in the blanks" in order to adjust things to her favor. There also seems to be some distortion noted between past, present, and future where something in the present can be glossed over (such as the big Swear-down) or something in the far past may not be established until a point in the future (such as the Sovereign's adjustment of Celes's past that the game pretty much never addressed). Part of the reason Alex is telling all these stories and jumping around so much is to cover as much area as possible. Aside from just telling the story or buying time before Alex and Ryan have to fight it out for the title of Game Master, the flashbacks are meant to cover any periods of time that might offer holes either Ryan or the Sovereign of Sorrow could use to fill in themselves and use to their own ends.

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[[WMG: The Sovereign is the ghost of GunpeiYokoi]]

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And those which aren't touched are caricatures of how Alex sees them. Protoman is a {{Badass}} who puts up with no nonsense, Wily is a CardCarryingVillain, and Cecil follows his paladin code even when it's a bad idea.

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And those which aren't touched are caricatures of how Alex sees them. Protoman is a {{Badass}} badass who puts up with no nonsense, Wily is a CardCarryingVillain, and Cecil follows his paladin code even when it's a bad idea.

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* [[Another way to put it: Omega Energy is Death itself.]]

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* [[Another Another way to put it: Omega Energy is Death itself.]]
itself.
* Bob actually says that every living thing contains the seeds of its own destruction. He says it right before devouring an enemy. Somehow, whoever extracted Omega Energy from Kevin Keene used that. Maybe Bob was the one who discovered it?



Just look at what happened [[spoiler: when the waves of sorrow and hope hit Nexus. Everyone became depressed when Sorrow hit, but realized worth when Hope hit. Example: (I can't remember his name, please insert) the guy who throws his hat at people realized that he doesn't make sense, but then realized that it doesn't matter.]]

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Just look at what happened [[spoiler: when the waves of sorrow and hope hit Nexus. Everyone became depressed when Sorrow hit, but realized worth when Hope hit. Example: (I can't remember his name, please insert) the guy who throws his hat at people Spike Mc Fang realized that he doesn't make sense, but then realized that it doesn't matter.]]


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[[WMG: The Sovereign's true form is a 3D image that can't be represented as a sprite]]
That's why the sprites can't perceive her true form.

[[WMG: At some point, Alex will tell someone that Solid Snake is still alive]]
Snake is still part of the Metal Gear franchise, and it's still pretty popular and hard to miss. Alex may not like the games (he describes modern games as like soup cans in that they're just things), but he probably knows about the Metal Gear Solid games. Snake in Videoland is in some sort of coma that he can never wake up from. He's alive, but only exists on Playstation games.

[[WMG: Everyone who died in the Great Change was part of a game that never made the jump from NES to SNES]]
The only place that the Sovereign didn't destroy in the scene where she's destroying everything was Mushroom Kingdom. All the others were relatively obscure games that didn't get remakes or sequels on the SNES. Snake died, even though his franchise lasted for years after the SNES.
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The Sovereign can see the future, but not the past -- which, in TheDivineComedy, is listed as one of the abilities of the damned. The sovereign also has access to Game Master-like powers, can change the abilities of sprites (even if limited to only improving pre-existing abilities), and gives knowledge of the real world to anyone Touched. Clearly, the Sovereign is Gunpei Yokoi trying to take revenge on the company that destroyed him -- the whole female thing is a misunderstanding caused by using Queen Zeal as AFormYouAreComfortableWith for Magus.

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The Sovereign can see the future, but not the past -- which, in TheDivineComedy, ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', is listed as one of the abilities of the damned. The sovereign also has access to Game Master-like powers, can change the abilities of sprites (even if limited to only improving pre-existing abilities), and gives knowledge of the real world to anyone Touched. Clearly, the Sovereign is Gunpei Yokoi trying to take revenge on the company that destroyed him -- the whole female thing is a misunderstanding caused by using Queen Zeal as AFormYouAreComfortableWith for Magus.
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* [[Another way to put it: Omega Energy is Death itself.]]
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Why on earth would Max Force believe that people like BeavisAndButthead and EarthwormJim AREN'T druggies, while believing that someone like {{Batman}} IS a druggie? Eventually [=JayDee=] might show off why Max thinks of them as such.

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Why on earth would Max Force believe that people like BeavisAndButthead WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead and EarthwormJim VideoGame/EarthwormJim AREN'T druggies, while believing that someone like {{Batman}} Franchise/{{Batman}} IS a druggie? Eventually [=JayDee=] [=Jay=]Dee might show off why Max thinks of them as such.

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Neither her actual death nor her corpse ever being shown (or was mentioned to have been found), which gives a chance that she never actually died. Especially given that Cid himself, who was shown to be weaker than BD at the height of her power, survived a fall from a similar height while IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EXPLOSION. But another reason to believe she might still be alive is that she appears in [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2011/06/20/684-the-temptation/ comic 684]] as one of the people Golbez has met (check the bottom of the 8th panel), despite his first appearance in the game coming long after she would have died.

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Neither her actual death nor her corpse has ever being been shown (or was mentioned to have been found), which gives means there's a chance that she never actually died. Especially given that Cid himself, who was shown to be weaker than BD at the height of her power, survived a fall from a similar height while IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EXPLOSION. But another reason to believe she might still be alive is that she appears in [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2011/06/20/684-the-temptation/ comic 684]] as one of the people Golbez has met (check the bottom of the 8th panel), despite his first appearance in the game coming long after she would have died.



Why on earth would Max Force believe that people like BeavisAndButthead and EarthwormJim AREN'T druggies, while believing that someone like {{Batman}} IS a druggie? Hopefully [=JayDee=] will drop an explanation of this at some point.

[[WMG: Cara's abilities are the results of a Game Genie/Shark]]
In [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2015/08/17/863-how-to-make-friends-and-incapacitate-people/ comic 863]], Cara hits Shadow 4 times for 9999 damage each. This is actually impossible to do Cara to do in FinalFantasyV, both for that exact amount of hits (she would either hit twice, as Monks are considered to be dual-wielding with their fists, or 8 times if she was using [=XFight=]/Rapid-Fire, but 4 hits is impossible), and the amount of damage (even at level 99 and with each blow landing a critical, Cara lacks the power to hit the damage cap with each individual strike). Furthermore, the fact that NO ONE else in Nexus wants to cross her at all, including Megaman (who was perfectly willing to go after an RPG final boss like Amon but tells his men to stay FAR away from Cara) would seem to indicate either stats that are maxed out (which can't be done in FFV without cheat devices) or even an invincibility code of some sort.

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Why on earth would Max Force believe that people like BeavisAndButthead and EarthwormJim AREN'T druggies, while believing that someone like {{Batman}} IS a druggie? Hopefully Eventually [=JayDee=] will drop an explanation might show off why Max thinks of this at some point.

them as such.

[[WMG: Cara's abilities are [[GameBreaker overpoweredness]] is the results result of a Game Genie/Shark]]
In [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2015/08/17/863-how-to-make-friends-and-incapacitate-people/ comic 863]], Cara hits Shadow 4 times for 9999 damage each. This is actually impossible to do for Cara to do in FinalFantasyV, both for that exact amount of hits (she would either hit twice, as Monks are considered to be dual-wielding with their fists, or 8 times if she was using [=XFight=]/Rapid-Fire, but 4 hits is impossible), and the amount of damage (even at level 99 and with each blow landing a critical, Cara lacks the power to hit the damage cap with each individual strike). Furthermore, the fact that NO ONE else in Nexus wants to cross her at all, including Megaman (who all (including Megaman, who was perfectly willing to go after an RPG final boss like Amon but tells his men to stay FAR away from Cara) would seem to indicate either that her stats that are maxed out (which can't be done in FFV without cheat devices) devices, since stats remain constant across levels and are only changed by jobs and equipment) or even an invincibility code of some sort.
sort. Given that FF5 is easily the hardest of the SNES Final Fantasy games, Alex may have resorted to cheat codes to beat it.

[[WMG: Magus will die 77 more times in the Mushroom Kingdom]]
When the Elder of Mysidia [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2014/12/10/854-cursed-luck/ repeatedly attempted]] to break Frog's curse (put on him by Magus, remember), he eventually gives up, but [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2015/01/28/856-dead-silence/ his]] [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2015/05/04/858-unforgettable-lessons-about-forgetting/ comments]] hint that Esunaga's method of breaking curses is to make sure that the specific method of uncursing (in this case, Magus's death) actually comes to pass. The reason it failed to ever stick? Because Magus is in the Mushroom Kingdom, where people have extra lives! The Elder cast the spell 95 times, and Magus has died 18 times so far, once in [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2003/02/18/283-driveby/ Max Force's initial attack]], then 17 more times as [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2003/04/10/316-collateral-damage/ Max's failed attempts to hit Mario hit Magus instead]]. Thus, Magus will bring the count to an even 95 before he leaves the Mushroom Kingdom.
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Why on earth would Max Force believe that people like BeavisAndButthead and EarthwormJim AREN'T druggies, while believing that someone like {{Batman}} IS a druggie? Hopefully JayDee will drop an explanation of this at some point.

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[[WMG: Blue Dragon is still alive]]
Neither her actual death nor her corpse ever being shown (or was mentioned to have been found), which gives a chance that she never actually died. Especially given that Cid himself, who was shown to be weaker than BD at the height of her power, survived a fall from a similar height while IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EXPLOSION. But another reason to believe she might still be alive is that she appears in [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2011/06/20/684-the-temptation/ comic 684]] as one of the people Golbez has met (check the bottom of the 8th panel), despite his first appearance in the game coming long after she would have died.

[[WMG: We'll be seeing some of the people from the third panel of [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2003/04/22/322-being-max-force/ comic 322]] ]]
Why on earth would Max Force believe that people like BeavisAndButthead and EarthwormJim AREN'T druggies, while believing that someone like {{Batman}} IS a druggie? Hopefully JayDee will drop an explanation of this at some point.

[[WMG: Cara's abilities are the results of a Game Genie/Shark]]
In [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2015/08/17/863-how-to-make-friends-and-incapacitate-people/ comic 863]], Cara hits Shadow 4 times for 9999 damage each. This is actually impossible to do Cara to do in FinalFantasyV, both for that exact amount of hits (she would either hit twice, as Monks are considered to be dual-wielding with their fists, or 8 times if she was using [=XFight=]/Rapid-Fire, but 4 hits is impossible), and the amount of damage (even at level 99 and with each blow landing a critical, Cara lacks the power to hit the damage cap with each individual strike). Furthermore, the fact that NO ONE else in Nexus wants to cross her at all, including Megaman (who was perfectly willing to go after an RPG final boss like Amon but tells his men to stay FAR away from Cara) would seem to indicate either stats that are maxed out (which can't be done in FFV without cheat devices) or even an invincibility code of some sort.

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[[WMG: The prophecy's line about Captain SNES either saving Videoland or destroying it has an allegory to emulated games]]
Alex claims that he spent his time playing emulated games, even though he comes through a portal on a normal SNES. He even talks about characters who never came out in the west, like Cara and Butz. Maybe this is why Ryan thinks he's defiling Videoland; he's using technology that just copies the SNES. Alex will transfer Videoland from SNES to Virtual Console, which will either save it from dying out or kill it by destroying NostalgiaFilter.
* Or maybe Ryan is the one who uses emulators. The ship that he uses trapped a lot of characters, presumably for transport to a new Videoland. It's a very high-tech ship, for that matter. He and Alex have a talk about the SNES console at some point. Ryan claims it's outdated, but Alex says he loved the games anyways and doesn't like new games. The fact that he's using a real SNES to play a game is probably reflective of the fact that he still likes the system (that, or Chrono Trigger's absurd CopyProtection). In this case, Alex wants to keep the SNES games on the SNES.
* Supporting either point of view, Kwick the tomato says that one of the ten commandments for sprites includes, 'Thou shall remain on Nintendo-sponsored games'. Emulators often work for free on the internet.
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As the text on it said it was there to remember the first,[[spoiler: and although she was killed by the Herald and not the Sovereign she was still indirectly the first victim. The reason the grace was at the Warp of Life was no doubt because her strong connection to the place.]]


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As the text on it said it was there to remember the first,[[spoiler: and although she was killed by the Herald and not the Sovereign she was still indirectly the first victim. The reason the grace grave was at the Warp of Life was no doubt because her strong connection to the place.]]

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As the text on it said it was there to remember the first,[[spoiler:and first,[[spoiler: and although she was killed by the Herald and not the Sovereign she was still indirectly the first victim. The reason the grace was at the Warp of Life was no doubt because her strong connection to the place.]]

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[[WMG: The grave at the Warp of life was for [[spoiler: Duke]]]]
As the text on it said it was there to remember the first,[[spoiler: namely the first victim of Omega Energy. Also the Sinestrals were right about him the Sovereign"s first victim given the obvious connection between Omega Energy and the Sovereign.]]


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[[WMG: The grave at the Warp of life was for Life was [[spoiler: Duke]]]]
to mark Megagirl's death]]]]
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[[WMG: The grave at the Warp of life was for Duke]]
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* Hope Keene is probably the representative of hope.
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[[WMG: The reason why Mega Man can't show affection to Roll is because of Fire Emblem]]
Mega Man says that it's because the tabloids would mistake it for incest. Fire Emblem is known for its incestuous subtext (and one actual case, but that one was a villain's ploy and actually made sense in context). It would make sense for Video Land to be more aware of it when it's a plot point.
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[[WMG: Ryan can hear silent the silent protagonists because [[AchievementsInIgnorance he doesn't realize he shouldn't be able to hear them.]]]]
Ryan didn't play Chrono Trigger, so he never saw Crono not speaking. Similarly, because Green Megaman spoke in the original cartoon, he didn't know that Green became a SilentProtagonist under Alex's influence.
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[[WMG: Pit becoming de-Touched is why he's BreakingTheFourthWall in VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising.]]
It's implied that Pit is the guy that is possessing Eggplant Wizard, meaning he's Touched. However, he comes back for Kid Icarus Uprising, happily cracking jokes and breaking the fourth wall. At some point, he loses his despair at being nothing more than a child's plaything and embrace it.
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* Also, it's implied that Bob was one of the voices in the Desert, who took the name and body of one of the Monster Classes from the Gameboy FF game.

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** Jossed. Mega Girl survived that day and was instead killed at Princess Hope's fifth birthday party by the Herald of Sorrow.




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[[WMG: Rubicante is going to fake being Lucca to reactivate Gato.]]
Gato still has a part to play and Rydia wants to know what he knows.
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[[WMG: The Cat as the power of Badness.]]
He seems to be able to defeat Kain and is called a bad kitty.
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[[WMG: Videoland is malevolent because Alex suffers from a great degree of self-loathing.]]
He's a 22-year old virgin BrilliantButLazy college dropout who works at a fast food restaurant. He doesn't have any prospects, so Videoland is punishing him as he subconsciously believes he deserves to be punished.
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* [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2012/02/10/759-a-touching-moment/ Confirmed.]]
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[[WMG: Alex freaking out in [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2013/01/09/802-the-r-word/ this comic]]]]
Is because Video Land will not tolerate a Game Master denying it being real. The Sovereign of Sorrow is able to cause the damage that she does because she makes sprites believe/realize they're not real. For a Game Master to deny its reality, at best they make themselves a target for Videoland's spiteful narrative for daring to legitimately quote the Sovereign's words. At worst, given its FisherKing nature, the Game Master would effectively be the Sovereign's champion and Videoland would be destroyed.
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* Jossed. However, he's gets Touched during the course of the comic.

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* Jossed. However, he's he gets Touched during the course of the comic.

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