History WMG / BlackButler

* Yeah, this is jossed. Season two and Book of Circus are, essentially, in different timelines. The latter is canon (alongside the Black Butler arc, Red Butler arc, and Indian Butler arc), the former is not and neither is the rest of season one (i.e. the Houndsworth, Shard of Hope, Haunted Castle, Book of Doomsday, and Conspiracy and Revenge arcs). Also, Sebastian can shapeshift; he would never need for prosthetic.

* Yeah, this is jossed. Season two and Book of Circus are, essentially, in different timelines. The latter is canon, the former is not. Also, Sebastian can shapeshift; he would never need for prosthetic.

* Jossed. Season two and Book of Circus are, essentially, in different timelines. The latter is canon, the former is not.

[[WMG: Grell is the bastard son of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Naruto Suigetsu and Karin]] ]]
I mean look at them. He gets his teeth, sense of humor, and his love of giant swords from [[http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-347/page002.html his dad]] and his hair and his taste in [[HoYay "friends"]] from [[http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2500000/Enter-Karin-naruto-shippuuden-2529254-750-1100.jpg his mom]]. The resemblance is hard to deny even if you don't ship it.

** Wait, didn't Grell appeared earlier than either of them? Besides that, yeah that makes so much sense.

Therefore making the 'needle and string' theory unnecessary. In earlier chapters, William and newcomer Ronald mention that Grell is somewhere on the premises... What if he NEVER LEFT and is hiding out somewhere in the mansion?

*** Jossed again. Everything is explained in chapters 48 and 49.[[spoiler: one faked, later killed by Grey. Phelps is killed by a snake. Sebastian is 'killed' by Grey.]] Besides, Grell was probably there for actual Reaper duties. Who knows what kind of punishment he went through after the Jack the Ripper arc.

[[spoiler: Sebastian's]] 'death' is an attempt to make [[spoiler:Grell]] SO DAMN UPSET that she comes out of hiding, either in front of everyone, where she would be revealed as an obvious suspect or alone, where Sebastian could incapacitate her without breaking character. He is pretending to be [[spoiler: dead]] after all.

Oh come on. We all want him back.

* To be exact, Claude is William T. Spears in disguise, which is how he knows Sebastian under his current name that was given by Ciel. William put on different glasses, changed his hair from neat to messed, and spoke with as deep a voice as he could manage in order to appear as a different person. From Grell we know that it's possible for a shinigami to work as a butler while still doing his shinigami job. Also, perhaps demons and shinigami are fundamentally the same species, which would explain why their combat and other capabilities are comparable, allowing them to make plausible impressions of each other. The difference would be that demons have gotten to the taste of eating souls, which is very much against the shinigami rules.

All the hints of of Sebastian's demonic appearance seem to be leading up to more of a FashionVictimVillain than an EldritchAbomination (seriously, heels, what might be mascara, and FemmeFatalons?) but is actually playing on the assumption of the readers who have gotten used to all the HoYay that gender means anything to Sebastian; unlike Grelle, who's transsexual and actually is mentally female, Sebastian elected to GenderBender herself a) ForTheLulz (guys still want her even as a man, something that amuses her to no end, and now women are swooning over *her) and b) Ceil saw what she used to look like and seeing her in a male form possibly modeled after ''his father'' is meant to make him uncomfortable; Sebastian's not going to be a servant for god knows how long without SOMETHING to make that less pleasant for the one giving orders, after all.

* His straight black hair as a butler is his real hair. That [[AnimeHair choppy red thing]] is merely a wig. It's probably a safe assumption.

** In support for this theory, we know that both Grell and Undertaker are [[spoiler:grim reapers]], have somewhat similar personalities, and seem to prefer dead people over the living in some way (Grell likes the blood that comes from [[spoiler:killing people]], Undertaker believes the dead are more beautiful because they can no longer tell lies). We also know that both of them can hold their own against [[spoiler:Sebastian]]. However, if they were to be the same person, there is no explanation of how they are existing at the same time, unless we assume that all shinigami are time lords or something.

[[WMG:Soma will return once the story focus on Ciel and Sebestian's side]]
* Soma will return with a completely different look from his last appearance from Blue Memory Arc.
** Soma will either return with army from India after he murder his father and claims his right to the throne in order to [[spoiler:avenge Agni.]]
** Soma becomes an assassin and will kill anyone who stands in his way.

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Our!Ciel's real name is Finnian.]]

*** Honestly, I suspect a situation somewhat similar to Ryougi Shiki from [[LightNovel/{{KaraNoKyoukai}} Kara no Kyoukai]]. The works are fairly different in most respects, but you could make a case for certain points, i.e. a rather particular type of loss leading to obtaining a form of power.

[[WMG: ...Alternatively, [[Manga/KatekyoHitmanReborn Rokudo Mukuro]] is one of his reincarnation (or getting possessed by Sebestian).]]

[[WMG: [[Manga/BlackButler The Phantomhive family]] is in some way related to the Blackadder clan.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:OurCiel's real name is Finnian.]]
He passed on the name to his gardener who did share some similar past trauma and, he used it as his alias while undercover in the circus. It's entirely possible that it used to be his name before he [[spoiled: assumed his dead twin's identity]]

[[WMG: [[Spoiler: Our]] Ciel's real name is Finnian.

...the half-demon offspring of [[Theater/DoctorFaustus Doctor Faustus and Mephistopheles.]] He got his surname from his father and his demonic nature from his other parent.

** The inflagranti delicto scene in the manga IS rather ambiguous. However, both hands are accounted for (one gloved, one not -- he'd removed one already because it had gotten bloody from the preceding confrontation with Spears), suggesting either he wasn't using them OR there was some creative position-switching occurring between frames. It's likely left unclear on purpose to allow the reader to insert his or her own interpretation... which I'm sure many of us have done with gusto. But there is something [[{{Crowning Moment of Awesome}} delicious]] about the implication that Sebastian is so efficient, even during sex, that he doesn't need to disrobe.

[[WMG: Undertaker took the real Ciel's film reel from Sebastian during the Book of Atlantic arc]]
In order to make the real Ciel a more advanced Bizarre Doll that wasn't a zombie like the others, he would have gotten a film reel that was not a fake or some extension like with the vice-principal during the Weston College arc. He would have had to extract it from Sebastian when he slashed him with his scythe.

...And [[HalfHumanHybrid Snake]] is the same kind of demi-human as Letty and the other "pets." Naturally Kuroshitsuji would come before ''Ma Cherie'' in that world's timeline, since one is in VictorianLondon while the other uses modern technology.

* Alternatively, Undertaket is Ciel's great-grandfather. Think about it- he said something changed for him "fifty years ago," which going by the death records for Claudia Phantomhive, is around when she was born. If he fathered children with her, him defecting around the time of her ''birth'' is quite a coincidence, but if he defected ''because'' she was born it explains a lot more. Likewise, Ciel's ability to see reapers is implied to be a result of non-human ancestry, and in the Cambina arc Lizzy sees Grell and attacks her with a sword, proving she can also see reapers. If so, the options involving Undertaker as Ciel's ancestor are that Undertaker fathered both of Claudia's children, Vincent and Francis are twins, or Undertaker fathered Claudia herself.

** The sixth episode of Book of Circus makes it pretty clear that he did go the full Monty with Beast. Doggy style, no less.
** It was standard intercourse on both occasions, another alternative is that he might have incorporated some supernatural means into his encounters *cough*cough*tendrils of darkness*cough*cough*. Again, it's all up to the viewer's interpretation.

* Oh, let's count the signs. First, he's an IronButtMonkey who, somehow, still has a high position. Second, his constantly [[TheKlutz falling over anything and everything]] is practically a physical SuspiciouslySpecificDenial in and of itself; the man basically screams "Hey everybody! [[ObfuscatingStupidity I'm stupid and follow the rules without question!]] I can't walk five feet without nearly killing myself! [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers IGNORE ME]]!" Then there's the fact that he's fallen down the stairs at least once, and had it been a little less [[SlapstickComedy slapstick]], [[MajorInjuryUnderreaction would've probably snapped his neck]]. A human ''could not'' have survived that. Finally ''and most importantly'', [[GeniusBonus his name]]. [[ArsGoetia Look it up]].

** While this troper is 90% certain it was standard intercourse on both occasions, another alternative is that he might have incorporated some supernatural means into his encounters *cough*cough*tendrils of darkness*cough*cough*. Again, it's all up to the viewer's interpretation.

Considering Jeremy's extensive knowledge about dead bodies, criminology, the Phantomhive estate, and cooking, it's not that far out there to think that [[spoiler: Sebastian]] may have just switched bodies since we all know he can't be killed for real due to PlotArmor. Maybe he switched bodies on purpose under Ciel's orders in case they actually did murder the guests or maybe the killer got the upper hand and he didn't want to resurrect himself in front of them so he was forced to come back as another person. In addition, in Chapter 45 Finny says he has the odd feeling that he can trust Jeremy. There's also Jeremy's creepy smile and impeccable manners that are far too similar to [[spoiler: Sebastian's]] to be a coincidence. Although this troper will be very upset if her theory is true and we will no longer get to stare at [[spoiler: Sebastian's]] gorgeous former body.

This is rather more on the "Wild" side of Wild Mass Guessing, however, This Troper's guess stands.

* This troper has a similar theory, adding to it that Queen Victoria's butlers (or Earl Grey, at least) are actually angels. It would also explain their general [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy white]] appearance while Sebastian, a demon, leans towards [[TallDarkAndHandsome all black.]] Atthe very least, those gus abilities are far beyond any human, even a superhuman like Agni. There's also the blatant distrust that Earl Grey seems to feel towards Sebastian during the Murder arc: it could be because he can somehow sense his demonic nature.

[[WMG: Baron Kelvin and the former Lord Trancy are a TakeThatAudience and Toboso isn't really a {{Shotacon}}]]
It's no secret that Yana Toboso at least has an AuthorAppeal for [[YaoiGuys Yaoi]], however has stated in several interviews that Sebastian X Ciel is a case of MisaimedFandom and that it's not true love especially since demon or not a thirteen-year-old is rather...{{Squick}}y to some people. Enter Baron Kelvin and former Lord Trancy from the anime. Both are middle aged men that are rather repulsive-looking (with Kelvin being this way due to plastic surgery caused by body dysmorphia) who are also [[PaedoHunt pedophiles]]. Likely a jab at how people seem to accept {{Shotacon}} relationships with older men due to said older men being usually very attractive. Lord Trancy takes this even further by not only being a pedophile ,but had an entire Harem of young boys as [[SexSlave Sex Slaves]] and it's not completely out of the question that '''[[ParentalIncest Jim Macken actually is Alois]]''', especially since he still had to pretend to be him as a cover story.

So yeah, could be wrong, but it is likely that they were made as an attack on YaoiFangirl's Double Standards when it comes to Shotacon and show how messed up it would be in real life.

All the hints of of Sebastian's demonic appearance seem to be leading up to more of a FashionVictimVillain than an EldritchAbomination (seriously, heels, what might be mascara, and FemmeFatalons?) but is actually playing on the assumption of the readers who have gotten used to all the HoYay that gender means anything to Sebastian; unlike Grelle, who's transsexual and actually is mentally female, Sebastian elected to GenderBender herself a) ForTheLulz (guys still want her even as a man, something that amuses her to no end, and now women are swooning over her) and b) Ceil saw what she used to look like and seeing her in a male form possibly modeled after ''his father'' is meant to make him uncomfortable; Sebastian's not going to be a servant for god knows how long without SOMETHING to make that less pleasant for the one giving orders, after all.

[[The Ciel "imposter" that appeared in the Blue Cult arc is the real Ciel.]]

The Ciel we'be been following throughout the series is his twin brother, who took his identity after he was seemingly killed by the cult. Our Ciel's real name is either Sol or Soleil (meaning "ground" and "sun" respectivly in French).

I saw this basic Sebastian = Malphas suggestion elsewhere on the Internet; here is a version with more detail. I shall compare text from the rather terse article from TheOtherWiki with how Sebastian has appeared in ''Manga/BlackButler''.