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16th Jun '17 12:06:13 AM ayano
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* [[spoiler:The "identical twin" part seems to have been confirmed as of chapter 129, at least.]]
4th Jun '17 4:46:46 PM M4r4
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* Given his status among fangirls this would be quite the hilarious revelation.



** Fangirls would like to think that he just fingered them. His scene with Beast is rather ambiguous, but it's pretty obvious that he at least had sex with the nun. Also, all over Kuro fandom, Sebastian ''always'' has sex fully clothed. I'm pretty sure that it's canon that he doesn't like being naked around humans, so there's that, too. [[spoiler: It is canon, as quote "However, the first time in my long life as a demon... that I ended up showing humans such a humiliating state. [they were looking for Ciel's master key, so they de-robed him.] while explaining to Wordsmith about the solution of the Phantomhive Murder Mystery, in chapter 49.]]
** The sixth episode of Book of Circus makes it pretty plain that he did go the full Monty with Beast. Doggy style, no less.
** While this troper is 90% certain it was normal intercourse on both occasions, though another alternative is that he might have incorporated some supernatural means into his encounters *cough*cough*tendrils of darkness*cough*cough*. Again, it's all up to the viewer's interpretation.

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** Fangirls would like to think that he just fingered them. His scene with Beast is rather ambiguous, but it's pretty obvious that he at least had penetrative sex with the nun. Also, all over Kuro fandom, Sebastian ''always'' has sex fully clothed. I'm pretty sure that it's canon that he doesn't like being naked around humans, so there's that, too. [[spoiler: It is canon, as quote "However, the first time in my long life as a demon... that I ended up showing humans such a humiliating state. [they were looking for Ciel's master key, so they de-robed him.] while explaining to Wordsmith about the solution of the Phantomhive Murder Mystery, in chapter 49.]]
** The sixth episode of Book of Circus makes it pretty plain clear that he did go the full Monty with Beast. Doggy style, no less.
** While this troper is 90% certain it was normal standard intercourse on both occasions, though another alternative is that he might have incorporated some supernatural means into his encounters *cough*cough*tendrils of darkness*cough*cough*. Again, it's all up to the viewer's interpretation.
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4th Jun '17 4:41:56 PM M4r4
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** The sixth episode of Book of Circus makes it pretty plain that he did, in fact, [[spoiler: go the full Monty with Beast. Doggy style, no less.]]

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** The sixth episode of Book of Circus makes it pretty plain that he did, in fact, [[spoiler: did go the full Monty with Beast. Doggy style, no less.]]less.
** While this troper is 90% certain it was normal intercourse on both occasions, though another alternative is that he might have incorporated some supernatural means into his encounters *cough*cough*tendrils of darkness*cough*cough*. Again, it's all up to the viewer's interpretation.
2nd Jun '17 2:18:45 PM Sakubara
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[[WMG: Baron Kelvin and the former Lord Trancy are a TakeThatAudience and Toboso isn't really a {{Shotacon}}]]
It's no secret that Yana Toboso at least has an AuthorAppeal for [[YaoiGuys Yaoi]], however has stated in several interviews that Sebastian X Ciel is a case of MisaimedFandom and that it's not true love especially since demon or not a thirteen-year-old is rather...{{Squick}}y to some people. Enter Baron Kelvin and former Lord Trancy from the anime. Both are middle aged men that are rather repulsive-looking (with Kelvin being this way due to plastic surgery caused by body dysmorphia) who are also [[PaedoHunt pedophiles]]. Likely a jab at how people seem to accept {{Shotacon}} relationships with older men due to said older men being usually very attractive. Lord Trancy takes this even further by not only being a pedophile ,but had an entire Harem of young boys as [[SexSlave Sex Slaves]] and it's not completely out of the question that '''[[ParentalIncest Jim Macken actually is Alois]]''', especially since he still had to pretend to be him as a cover story.

So yeah, could be wrong, but it is likely that they were made as an attack on YaoiFangirl's Double Standards when it comes to Shotacon and show how messed up it would be in real life.
1st May '17 8:40:48 PM Hong00
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* This troper has a similar theory, adding to it that Queen Victoria's butlers (or Earl Grey, at least) are actually angels. It would also explain their general [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy white]] appearance while Sebastian, a demon, leans towards [[TallDarkAndHandsome all black.]] Atthe very least, those gus abilities are far beyond any human, even a superhuman like Agni. There's also the blatant distrust that Earl Grey seems to feel towards Sebastian during the Murder arc: it could be because he can somehow sense his demonic nature.
1st May '17 8:12:25 PM Hong00
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\n* It *is* stated that Mukuro has been through all six paths of the afterlife, so it's plausible that he could have been a demon at some point.
1st May '17 8:10:08 PM Hong00
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\n* Or the bad sight could be an effect and not a symptom, as it seems to be implied that Shinigami are required to watch the entire cinematic record of every victim, and such a task could be taking a toll on their sight. It could be that shinigami are the ones who decide where to send the souls, so while angels and demons are able to see the cinematic records, they are not exactly relevant to their jobs, since thye simply receive the already-judged souls.

8th Jan '17 9:17:18 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Alois Trancy is [[EternalSonata Count Waltz]] in another universe.]]

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[[WMG: Alois Trancy is [[EternalSonata [[VideoGame/EternalSonata Count Waltz]] in another universe.]]
7th Jan '17 5:31:00 PM fsdfsdfsd
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** The idea that the stars represent blood types are pretty much confirmed by Sullivan.

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** The idea that the stars represent blood types are is pretty much confirmed by Sullivan.
7th Jan '17 5:30:53 PM fsdfsdfsd
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** The idea that the stars represent blood types are pretty much confirmed by Sullivan.
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