History WMG / BeastThePrimordial

* The fella’s almost ‘’certainly’’ an Inguma or Eshmaki Predator who’s somehow managed to thoroughly intertwine the town and his Lair with each other.

[[WMG: Film/It(2017)’s Pennywise The Dancing Clown is a Beast]]
* The fella’s almost ‘’certainly’’ an Inguma or Eshmaki Predator.

[[WMG: WesternAnimation/BunsenIsABeast is pro-Beast propaganda.]]

* [[MurderWater The Ichor/EAT]]: [[CaptainObvious Makara]] Collector (the Camper HiveMind). Maybe [[MonsterProgenitor the original Namtaru]]?

[[WMG: [[WesternAnimation/BunsenIsABeast]] is pro Beast propaganda.]]

* In the days of the Kingdoms, it was the duty of the Champions to be the guardians, the dragonslayers, the ones who killed the monsters and protected the helpless. When the Darkness wove the Trap and sealed the Champions (along with the other Hopeful) in the Dreamlands, suddenly Beasts could run rampant, killing and destroying with nothing to stop them. This destabilized the Primordial Dream, and it responded by pushing on anyone who was broken enough to be open to its influence, trying to create new Champions to replace the missing Hopeful. But the power of the Primordial Dream is far less gentle or precise than that of the Light, and where the Champions were elevated from the strongest of souls, Heroes are created from among the weakest. So instead of being empowered, Heroes were overwhelmed, their own selves subsumed by the archetypes of the Dream.

Most likely a Makara or a Namtaru, and ''definitely'' a Collector, which would explain his obsession with collecting shiny objects.

** The Demon entry doesn't sound like it's suggesting Demons are harmless without their "mask", but more like they are without any identity without their cover (which is technically true). Also, the whole "Beasts create Heroes" was jossed in later rewriting, so this argument doesn't work anymore.

[[WMG: All the {{Monster Progenitor}}s of the WoD are or were Beasts]]

[[WMG: ComicBook/{{Batman}} is a Beast]]

* The SlenderMan: Eshmaki (elusive until it is too late) or Ugallu (standing there, watching you)? Possibly a Ravager, maybe a Predator

The book says that Beasts exist to teach lessons, that their lessons are needed more than ever now, that they are the only ones who have all of the answers, and that Heroes are too egotistical to see this. But this is all said [[UnreliableNarrator from the perspective of Beasts.]] There is nothing stopping them from just killing people and teaching nothing, their lessons are often [[DisproportionateRetribution incredibly severe]] despite the safety net of modern society meaning that our mistakes aren't liable to get us killed anymore, and most of their interactions with and claims about the supernatural of often demonstrably wrong (i. e. saying "What would happen if I tore off your masks? Would anything remain?" to [[TabletopGame/DemonTheDescent Demons]] like they were harmless shapeshifters rather than the [[RealityWarper reality hacking]] [[EldritchAbomination super beings]] they really are). Add in the fact that a Beasts Horror seems to do everything it can to create and attract Heroes and claims that Heroes are the ones messing with the natural order of things ring hollow. The truth is that Beasts were meant to act as antagonists for humanity to overcome and Heroes were meant to be spiritual leaders that helped overcome Beasts, but now we've outgrown the need for both and the fact that this is the [[CrapsackWorld World of Darkness]] means that this has twisted not just Heroes, but Beasts as well.

[[WMG: [[TheFearMythos The Fears]] are very ancient and powerful Incarnate Beasts.]]

Really, his entire ''modus operandi'' was "[[TheDreaded scariest pirate ever]]" which would definitively be a perfect carrier for a Makara Collector. He had access to the [[ImplacableMan Unbreakable]] Atavism, as demonstrated in his last stand.

Most likely a Nemesis Eshmaki who specifically targets criminals, and [[FightLikeANormal avoids using his abilities as much as possible so he won't hunger too fast]]. He keeps it in check by scaring the crap out of Gotham's criminals, thus allowing him to put his nature to use. The Joker might also be a Hero he accidentally created once, which would explain [[JokerImmunity why he is so difficult to kill]] and why he is obsessed with Batman.

Most likely a Nemesis Eshmaki who specifically targets criminals, and [[FightLikeANormal avoids using his abilities as much as possible so he won't hunger too fast]]. He keeps it in check by scaring the crap out of Gotham's criminals, thus allowing him to put his nature to use. The Joker might also be a Hero he accidentally created once, which would explain [[JokerImmunity why he is so difficult to kill]].

Specifically an Anakim with Cyclopean Strength, Looming Presence and Titanic Blow. Banner refuses to feed until the starved Hulk finally snaps, breaks free, and feeds its Hunger for Ruin in a spectacular manner.

Really, his entire ''modus operandi'' was "[[TheDreaded scariest pirate ever]]" which would definitively be a perfect carrier for a Makara Collector. He had access to the [[ImplacableMan Unbreakable]] Atavism, as demonstrated in his last stand.

More specifically, a Anakim - he is a blank eyed bear, his victims... are children - and obviously a Predator. In his Life, he is some Japanese nerd with a Loli complex. He started his meme himself to spread nightmares about him across the world. Obviously, some of his victims end up unable to cope from the trauma, and become [[PaedoHunt Heroes paranoidly suspecting everyone of being child molesters]]

Really, his entire ''modus operandi'' was "[[TheDreaded scariest pirate ever]]" which would definitively be a perfect carrier for a Makara Collector. He had access to the [[ImplacableMan Unbreakable]] Atavism, as demonstrated in his final battle.

* [[MurderWater EAT]]: [[CaptainObvious Makara]] Collector (the Camper HiveMind). Maybe [[MonsterProgenitor the original Namtaru]]?

More specifically, a Anakim - he is a blank eyed bear, his victims... are children - and obviously a Predator. In his Life, he is some Japanese nerd with a Loli complex. He started his meme himself to spread nightmares about him across the world. Obviously, some of his victims end up unable to cope from the trauma, and become [[PaedoHunt Heroes paranoidly suspecting everyone of being child molesters]]

(Feel free to add your own interpretations.)

* [[ReligiousHorror The Archangel]]: Obviously, not actually the afterlife here, so I would say Anakim Tyrant, possibly with kinship to ghosts or [[GeistTheSinEaters Geister/Sin-Eaters]].

* [[MurderWater EAT]]: [[CaptainObvious Makara]] Collector (the Camper HiveMind)

* [[EldritchLocation The Empty City]]: Originally a Lair. However, when its Beast was killed, it somehow absorbed parts of its Soul and became a sentient nightmare on its own. Collector.

* [[EldritchLocation The Empty City]]: Originally a Lair. However, when its Beast was killed. it somehow became a nightmare on its own. Collector.

* [[MurderWater EAT]]: [[CaptainObvious Makara]] Collector (the Camper HiveMind]]

* The Blind Man: Namtaru (Inevitability of old age) Collector (steal memories and keeps them in his archieves)

* [[EldritchLocationThe Empty City]]: Originally a Lair. However, when its Beast was killed. it somehow became a nightmare on its own. Collector.

Caine, Father Wolf, the Gentry, Lucifer... They all started out as Beasts. Then they became Incarnate and devised a means of creating "children" to spread their Myth. It's how modern Beasts can form kinships.