History WMG / BackToTheFuture

This is only a guess, but the three Future!Marties are possibly from the Lone Pines Timeline, the Biff Future Timeline, and the Current Timeline, respectively.

* Confirmed in [[ComicBook/BackToTheFuture the comic book]]. Old Biff mentions having seen ''Film/JurassicPark'', and Doc sees a Music/{{Nirvana}} poster and uses the Internet (TheOtherWiki, in fact) during his first visit to 2015.

In 1955, Lorraine's father tells her, "If you ever have a kid like [Marty], I'll disown you!" Now, this could be RuleofFunny, or he could have been serious. Think about it- Mr. Baines is never seen in the present day, and the only indication that the McFlys have a relationship with him is when Linda says, "Grandpa hit him with the car" (talking about George back in 1955). However, Linda is older than Marty, and thus, probably had a chance to form a relationship with her grandpa before Marty was born and Mr. Baines cut off all contact with his daughter.

*** As a [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice certain videogame]]has shown us, the presence of lawyers ensures fair and impartial trials. Remove them and good luck trying to prove yourself innocent against a potentially biased court.

* He must have enlisted the help of [[{{Inception}} Leonardo Di Caprio]].

The stock DeLorean takes 10.6 seconds to get from 0 to 60 MPH, and 40 seconds plus a LOT of room to get up to 100. Doc had to include a lead-lined chamber for the plutonium, which must have added significantly to the car's weight. With the stock engine and that much extra bulk, it might not even have been able to reach 88 MPH at all. So he replaced it with a much more powerful engine from a sports car. That explains why the engine noises don't match those from a normal [=DeLorean=].

[[WMG: The Delorean door opening in Part II killed Biff.]]

But...it wasn't pointless. Doc PLANNED the entire thing. Doc knew that Marty being a hothead about being called "chicken" resulted in a future that was...not really great. He wants Marty to get over this, but can't just say "You're going to be in a car race that Needles eggs you in to, you're going to hit a Rolls Royce and ruin your future." Doing that would cause problems, because as he says multiple times, no one should know too much about their own future. So instead, he comes up with a plan: set into action a chain of events that will cause Marty to mature, and get over his whole problem with being called chicken. So he uses his knowledge of how timelines and time travel works, and figures out this plan, that involves the entirety of BttF 2 AND 3, that eventually gets Marty to mature. His tombstone just HAPPENS to be next to where the DeLorean is buried in 1955? No...he planned it that way. He let it be known that is where he wanted to be buried, so that Marty would see the tombstone in 1955 and plan to come back to the past, and that the events of part 3 would happen and allow Marty to get over his issues and not get in that accident. Another part of the theory is the malfunctioning Time Circuits in part 2. They worked just fine, he simply made it look like they weren't so he'd have an excuse to be sent back to 1885. When he was trying to land the DeLorean in 1955 after Marty burned the book, he says that he has to fly back around due to the wind, but in what we've seen of the DeLorean flying previously, it seems like it is able to do a vertical landing, akin to a harrier jet. So why suddenly does the wind matter? It doesn't. Doc knows that if he stays in the air he will get hit by lightning, and has the time circuits ready to go to 1885, as it is all part of his perfectly thought-out plan.

** Either that, or Doc Brown is the Doctor after his twelve regen limit is used up, and he's just living through the rest of the years. However, it is also possible that Doc Brown is just a human who was ''visited'' by the Doctor. Doc had a vision, and the Doctor just happened to take a liking to him--he "gently nudged" Doc in the right direction. On top of all that, the DeLorean ''has'' to use the Time/Space Vortex in some way: one miscalculation, and your bright, shiny Time Machine goes flying off the face of the earth.

[[WMG:The time Delorean is responsible for all life on Earth.]]

Even though we already have some rudimentary form of [[http://www.terrafugia.com/ flying car]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4N-CLPXF8w hoverboard]], by 2015 they will not be as advanced and ubiquitous as they were depicted to be in [=BTTF2=]. On the other hand, information technology marched much faster than what was shown in [=BTTF2=], and pretty much every electronic device we have can be connected to the internet (which was implied not to exist in [=BTTF2=]). This is because another time traveller used his own time machine to change the timeline for his own purposes (just stealing the Delorean for it would result in a time paradox, because it is equipped with technology from a future this action would cause not to exist). More precisely, he went back to 1989 and invented the World Wide Web as Tim Berners-Lee. This caused information technology to progress with unnatural speed, while at the same time slowing down to a crawl every other sector of technology.

[[WMG: During the build process, Doc replaced the DeLorean's stock engine]]
The stock DeLorean takes 10.6 seconds to get from 0 to 60 MPH, and 40 seconds plus a LOT of room to get up to 100. Doc had to include a lead-lined chamber for the plutonium, which must have added significantly to the car's weight. With the stock engine and that much extra bulk, it might not even have been able to reach 88 MPH at all. So he replaced it with a much more powerful engine from a sports car. That explains why the engine noises don't match those from a normal DeLorean.

[[WMG: When Doc Brown and family visit Marty and Jennifer at the end of Part 3, Doc originally intended to destroy the Delorean and, if necessary, kill Marty.]]

** Maybe Doc found out Marty had diabetes, and keeps insulin around the lab just in case, and there's some in the glove box of the Delorian.

* The reason Marty and Doc have time traveled several times without screwing up enough to make any fatal paradoxes is because the sentient parts of time has grown to like them both, and cleans up parts of time to help them out. The fact that the [=McFly=] family suddenly becomes awesome, and that Doc eventually found the love of his life, was little gifts from time itself. And the reason they often get into trouble (lightning bolt hitting the DeLorean much? Biff going back in time?) is time wanting to get them into adventures both for its own amusement and them getting amazing memories.

** And where will our intrepid heroes go? Well, with the time circuits going berzerk, the Delorean wouldn't be confined from the measly range of 0 to 9999 AD. A crossover with Telltale's upcoming Jurassic Park game may occur, courtesy of the actual Jurassic Period (continental drift notwithstanding). And, of course, as hinted in Episode 1, [[spoiler:2011]] may also be on the cards.

So the DeLorean was [[UnfortunateImplications feeling suicidal]] at the end of the third film?

* And even without figuring out the time travel thing, it still has Mr. Fusion and a broken hover conversion, either of which could cause massive timeline changes. Basically, if the timestream doesn't destroy the DeLorean, there's going to be some major alterations to the timeline soon.

[[WMG:Carl Sagan's Cosmos inspired Doc to choose a Delorean.]]

[[WMG: Lorraine's father really did disown her when she had Marty]
In 1955, Lorraine's father tells her, "If you ever have a kid like [Marty,] I'll disown you!" Now, this could be RuleofFunny, or he could have been serious. Think about it- Mr. Baines is never seen in the present day, and the only indication that the McFlys have a relationship with him is when Linda says, "Grandpa hit him with the car" (talking about George back in 1955). However, Linda is older than Marty, and thus, probably had a chance to form a relationship with her grandpa before Marty was born and Mr. Baines cut off all contact with his daughter.

Now, keep in mind, [[spoiler:"Needle's Story" (the issue that came out before this series and detailed Needles meeting Marty in 1979)]] ended on [[spoiler:Needles in jail, telling Marty that he's coming after him once he gets out]]. Call me nutty, but I ''seriously'' think [[spoiler:Needles, once out, is going to stumble across a time machine, most likely the [=DeLorean=], go back to 1979, and go after Marty ''then'']]. The plot of "Hard Time" most likely is about the repercussions of [[spoiler:Needles altering Marty's past]].

At this current moment, the Publisher's Summaries for the first three issues are out. From that, the following is clear: someone is after Marty, [[spoiler:his childhood memories are starting to not match the present, and issue #3's summary ''strongly'' hints at someone altering the past[[note]]"WHO IS MARTY McFLY?! He's the guy caught in a timestorm, that's who. Reality is shifting, and Marty and Doc not only don't know why or how... they don't even know that it's happening. Who else has a time machine... and why is it all Marty's fault?[[/note]]]].

Forcing a naturally left-handed child to use his or her right hand, as was commonly done in former generations, can seriously damage the nervous system. That's why George was quirky. He was traumatized from the experience, and was turned into a wimp because of the browbeating. As a teenager, he eats and writes with his right hand, because that's what was drilled into him, but the punch he threw with his right hand clearly failed. Enter the left, which did the trick.

Given his knack for inventing and creating machines, plus the considerable expense of re-creating a time machine from scratch with technology you would have to create from scratch right down to the basic components (no vacuum tubes even before the 1900s and no way Jules or Verne are even in their mid teens in the ending scene, so the family as we see them must come from the 1890s), it's hardly suprising and indeed necessary. Being a blacksmith in a whistle-stop town is hardly likely to generate that kind of income. Most likely he put his skills to work and started developing products and grew a manufacturing business out of it, which helped the nascent economy of Hill Valley on its way, whilst being careful to avoid inventing (or "inventing") anything too out-of-period for hte time that could be commercially exploited.

There is a definite resemblance and a deleted scene from that movie mentions that he children. Perhaps after his family lost their money in the Great Depression, one of his kids moved out west to find new opportunities.

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[Film/Titanic (1997) Caledon Hockley]].]]

A lot of them! Jennifer saw herself, Biff returned to a 2015 that by the new timeline he created in 1955, was impossible and thus Biff got erased. Marty and Doc then traveled back in time using a time machine that should no longer exist in the timeline they exist in now, however, Old Biff's desire to return to 2015, results in a possible timeline where he does, simply by punching "in "last time departed". In this possible timeline, Marty and Doc, enter the time machine with the desire that they go to there 1985. However, Doc Fails to notice that the time machine's "last date traveled" is set to 1955. The time machine's computer then calculates 1985 from the 1955 it created. This erased both Marty and Doc's 1985, but not, from the time machine's perspective, Marty and Doc. This also erases the 2015 they just left. By traveling back to 1955 from the Alternate 1985, They rewrite history agian, creating yet another alternate 1985, and another alternate 2015. The timeline was able to create a stable time loop where because Doc died soon after coming to town, history was not sufficently altered to erase Marty. Because of Doc's Earlier Paradox encountering his older self, forming a Quantum Entanglement if you will, was drawn back to Marty in a self correcting loop. Since Marty failed to die, this self correcting time loop, was erased, creating an alternate 1955, 1985, and 2015, The Alternate 1985 of Eastwood Ravine was one of self correcting Paradoxs. Since Marty was sucessful, the stable timeloop of 1955 was allowed to continue along a similar enough path that they still buried the time machine in 1885 for Marty to dig up in 1955, allowing marty to go back to 1885. But agian, 1985, is the 1985 that the time machine would calculate which is the most correct, however, the only evidence for the 2015 it's previously been to was destroyed, and thus it can't calculate it's causality, all this leaves that 2015 open, as long as Marty doesn't use his knowledge of the Future to change history. But Marty did, and didn't race Needles, and thus the 2015 of "Your Fired" is erased, but the paper isn't because the paper of 2015 was recycled from paper of 1985. A new 2015 is created because Marty and Jennifer reject the 2015 they left. Since the 2015 they left was still unstable from the tripple paradox of Jennifer seeing from herself, Old Biff using the "Last Date Departed" and Marty and Doc using the Time Machine to Return to 1985, was hit by waves of instability coming from a massivly unstable 130 year long timeline with multiple self correcting time loops. The Final Paradox, the straw that broke the Universe's back was Marty and Jennifer using their knowledge to prevent it from happening. Meanwhile at an earlier point in the same timeline, Doc over many years, buys a steam engine, uses his knowledge of nuclear physics to very carefully create plutonium in the 19th century, hops in to the time machine with his wife and kids. Since this took place before Marty and Jennifer decide to use future knowledge to prevent futute events, thus spliting the Eastwood Ravine timeline, the steam engine would go to one of two 1985s, one where Marty and Jennifer get into the accident, and one where they don't. Since this is the one where they don't, that 2015 is rejected, and thus erased, and this current 2010s is the one we'll get, not the exponentally more immpossible 2015. The only X factor is where will Doc go in his Time Train. Do we exist in the "Eastwood Ravine" timeline? Is that timeline erased by Doc's next destination? And if so are we the timeline of that 2015, or one of the many 2015s that where erased?
* The highest statistical likelihood, stemming from the majority of time travel experiences described in the English language, is that we are now in the timeline created by the [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor]] when he showed up, behind the scenes, to save both the universe and the Milky Way galaxy (or Mutter's Spiral, if one prefers) from being destroyed by the number temporal causality paradoxes that you describe. As such, if the ravine is found, there is a strong possibility that it now reads "Smith Ravine".

This is the reason Marty's siblings where erased before he was. In one timeline, Marty, confused as hell, actually gave in and, you know, with his mother. He then decides to stay in 1955. He will then try to father alternate versions of his brother and sister, But because they would have inherited different genes from George then Marty did, they where impossible, thus they where gone the night of the dance. However, Marty was still possible. Unlikely but possible. Only possible through a sperm containing the exact half of the genes he inherited from his father joining with the exact same egg that made him. When he rejected this possible future in the car with his mother he began to erase himself again, because in that timeline his mother would go home from the dance disappointed. Only by either getting his mother and himself back together, or by getting his mother and his father together, could a timeline where Marty was possible come back into being.

So Marty screws up his parents meeting but isn't immediately erased, but as time goes on slowly him and his siblings fade out of a picture until they cease to exist. It's never really explained how this works but this Troper has come to suspect its a mix of probability and uncertainty. See regardless of what Marty did there was a chance his parents would still get together regardless of his interference in history, but as time goes on that probability continually drops as things diverge from the original version of events taking the form of things slowly fading out of recorded media. Eventually there comes a point where the future either diverges from what Marty knows happened or it does not, a critical period so to speak, at which point he must either exist or cease to be based on what has happened which allowed Marty to exist up to that point.

Similarly old Biff from 2015 Hill Valley changed his own past enough that he himself would no longer exist. If he had realized this was the case and not left the grace period between making the change and the changes becoming certain he would have continued to exist, but the moment he passed the point of his changes being certain he was almost immediately erased from the timeline.

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[{{Film/Titanic (1997)}} Caledon Hockley]].]]

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[[{{Film/Titanic (1997)}} Caledon Hockley]].]]

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[Film/{{Titanic (1997)}} Caledon Hockley]].]]

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[Film/Titanic (1997) Caledon Hockley]].]]

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[Film/Titanic(1997) Caledon Hockley]].]]

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[Film/Titanic Caledon Hockley]].]]

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[Film/Titanic Caledon Hockley.]]]]

[[WMG: Biff's gang member Match is the grandson of [[Film/Titanic Caledon Hockley]].]]