History WMG / BackToTheFuture

6th Jan '17 5:58:34 PM nombretomado
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* He must have enlisted the help of [[{{Inception}} Leonardo Di Caprio]].

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* He must have enlisted the help of [[{{Inception}} [[Film/{{Inception}} Leonardo Di Caprio]].
24th Nov '16 9:15:44 AM MarchVee
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The stock DeLorean takes 10.6 seconds to get from 0 to 60 MPH, and 40 seconds plus a LOT of room to get up to 100. Doc had to include a lead-lined chamber for the plutonium, which must have added significantly to the car's weight. With the stock engine and that much extra bulk, it might not even have been able to reach 88 MPH at all. So he replaced it with a much more powerful engine from a sports car. That explains why the engine noises don't match those from a normal [=DeLorean=].

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The stock DeLorean [=DeLorean=] takes 10.6 seconds to get from 0 to 60 MPH, and 40 seconds plus a LOT of room to get up to 100. Doc had to include a lead-lined chamber for the plutonium, which must have added significantly to the car's weight. With the stock engine and that much extra bulk, it might not even have been able to reach 88 MPH at all. So he replaced it with a much more powerful engine from a sports car. That explains why the engine noises don't match those from a normal [=DeLorean=].
24th Nov '16 9:13:15 AM MarchVee
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[[WMG: The Delorean door opening in Part II killed Biff.]]

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[[WMG: The Delorean [=Delorean=] door opening in Part II killed Biff.]]



But...it wasn't pointless. Doc PLANNED the entire thing. Doc knew that Marty being a hothead about being called "chicken" resulted in a future that was...not really great. He wants Marty to get over this, but can't just say "You're going to be in a car race that Needles eggs you in to, you're going to hit a Rolls Royce and ruin your future." Doing that would cause problems, because as he says multiple times, no one should know too much about their own future. So instead, he comes up with a plan: set into action a chain of events that will cause Marty to mature, and get over his whole problem with being called chicken. So he uses his knowledge of how timelines and time travel works, and figures out this plan, that involves the entirety of BttF 2 AND 3, that eventually gets Marty to mature. His tombstone just HAPPENS to be next to where the DeLorean is buried in 1955? No...he planned it that way. He let it be known that is where he wanted to be buried, so that Marty would see the tombstone in 1955 and plan to come back to the past, and that the events of part 3 would happen and allow Marty to get over his issues and not get in that accident. Another part of the theory is the malfunctioning Time Circuits in part 2. They worked just fine, he simply made it look like they weren't so he'd have an excuse to be sent back to 1885. When he was trying to land the DeLorean in 1955 after Marty burned the book, he says that he has to fly back around due to the wind, but in what we've seen of the DeLorean flying previously, it seems like it is able to do a vertical landing, akin to a harrier jet. So why suddenly does the wind matter? It doesn't. Doc knows that if he stays in the air he will get hit by lightning, and has the time circuits ready to go to 1885, as it is all part of his perfectly thought-out plan.

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But...it wasn't pointless. Doc PLANNED the entire thing. Doc knew that Marty being a hothead about being called "chicken" resulted in a future that was...not really great. He wants Marty to get over this, but can't just say "You're going to be in a car race that Needles eggs you in to, you're going to hit a Rolls Royce and ruin your future." Doing that would cause problems, because as he says multiple times, no one should know too much about their own future. So instead, he comes up with a plan: set into action a chain of events that will cause Marty to mature, and get over his whole problem with being called chicken. So he uses his knowledge of how timelines and time travel works, and figures out this plan, that involves the entirety of BttF 2 AND 3, that eventually gets Marty to mature. His tombstone just HAPPENS to be next to where the DeLorean [=Delorean=] is buried in 1955? No...he planned it that way. He let it be known that is where he wanted to be buried, so that Marty would see the tombstone in 1955 and plan to come back to the past, and that the events of part 3 would happen and allow Marty to get over his issues and not get in that accident. Another part of the theory is the malfunctioning Time Circuits in part 2. They worked just fine, he simply made it look like they weren't so he'd have an excuse to be sent back to 1885. When he was trying to land the DeLorean [=Delorean=] in 1955 after Marty burned the book, he says that he has to fly back around due to the wind, but in what we've seen of the DeLorean [=Delorean=] flying previously, it seems like it is able to do a vertical landing, akin to a harrier jet. So why suddenly does the wind matter? It doesn't. Doc knows that if he stays in the air he will get hit by lightning, and has the time circuits ready to go to 1885, as it is all part of his perfectly thought-out plan.



** Either that, or Doc Brown is the Doctor after his twelve regen limit is used up, and he's just living through the rest of the years. However, it is also possible that Doc Brown is just a human who was ''visited'' by the Doctor. Doc had a vision, and the Doctor just happened to take a liking to him--he "gently nudged" Doc in the right direction. On top of all that, the DeLorean ''has'' to use the Time/Space Vortex in some way: one miscalculation, and your bright, shiny Time Machine goes flying off the face of the earth.

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** Either that, or Doc Brown is the Doctor after his twelve regen limit is used up, and he's just living through the rest of the years. However, it is also possible that Doc Brown is just a human who was ''visited'' by the Doctor. Doc had a vision, and the Doctor just happened to take a liking to him--he "gently nudged" Doc in the right direction. On top of all that, the DeLorean [=Delorean=] ''has'' to use the Time/Space Vortex in some way: one miscalculation, and your bright, shiny Time Machine goes flying off the face of the earth.



[[WMG:The time Delorean is responsible for all life on Earth.]]

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[[WMG:The time Delorean [=Delorean=] is responsible for all life on Earth.]]



Even though we already have some rudimentary form of [[http://www.terrafugia.com/ flying car]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4N-CLPXF8w hoverboard]], by 2015 they will not be as advanced and ubiquitous as they were depicted to be in [=BTTF2=]. On the other hand, information technology marched much faster than what was shown in [=BTTF2=], and pretty much every electronic device we have can be connected to the internet (which was implied not to exist in [=BTTF2=]). This is because another time traveller used his own time machine to change the timeline for his own purposes (just stealing the Delorean for it would result in a time paradox, because it is equipped with technology from a future this action would cause not to exist). More precisely, he went back to 1989 and invented the World Wide Web as Tim Berners-Lee. This caused information technology to progress with unnatural speed, while at the same time slowing down to a crawl every other sector of technology.

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Even though we already have some rudimentary form of [[http://www.terrafugia.com/ flying car]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4N-CLPXF8w hoverboard]], by 2015 they will not be as advanced and ubiquitous as they were depicted to be in [=BTTF2=]. On the other hand, information technology marched much faster than what was shown in [=BTTF2=], and pretty much every electronic device we have can be connected to the internet (which was implied not to exist in [=BTTF2=]). This is because another time traveller used his own time machine to change the timeline for his own purposes (just stealing the Delorean [=Delorean=] for it would result in a time paradox, because it is equipped with technology from a future this action would cause not to exist). More precisely, he went back to 1989 and invented the World Wide Web as Tim Berners-Lee. This caused information technology to progress with unnatural speed, while at the same time slowing down to a crawl every other sector of technology.



[[WMG: During the build process, Doc replaced the DeLorean's stock engine]]
The stock DeLorean takes 10.6 seconds to get from 0 to 60 MPH, and 40 seconds plus a LOT of room to get up to 100. Doc had to include a lead-lined chamber for the plutonium, which must have added significantly to the car's weight. With the stock engine and that much extra bulk, it might not even have been able to reach 88 MPH at all. So he replaced it with a much more powerful engine from a sports car. That explains why the engine noises don't match those from a normal DeLorean.

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[[WMG: During the build process, Doc replaced the DeLorean's [=DeLorean=]'s stock engine]]
The stock DeLorean takes 10.6 seconds to get from 0 to 60 MPH, and 40 seconds plus a LOT of room to get up to 100. Doc had to include a lead-lined chamber for the plutonium, which must have added significantly to the car's weight. With the stock engine and that much extra bulk, it might not even have been able to reach 88 MPH at all. So he replaced it with a much more powerful engine from a sports car. That explains why the engine noises don't match those from a normal DeLorean.
[=DeLorean=].



[[WMG: When Doc Brown and family visit Marty and Jennifer at the end of Part 3, Doc originally intended to destroy the Delorean and, if necessary, kill Marty.]]

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[[WMG: When Doc Brown and family visit Marty and Jennifer at the end of Part 3, Doc originally intended to destroy the Delorean [=DeLorean=] and, if necessary, kill Marty.]]



** Maybe Doc found out Marty had diabetes, and keeps insulin around the lab just in case, and there's some in the glove box of the Delorian.

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** Maybe Doc found out Marty had diabetes, and keeps insulin around the lab just in case, and there's some in the glove box of the Delorian.
[=DeLorean=].



* The reason Marty and Doc have time traveled several times without screwing up enough to make any fatal paradoxes is because the sentient parts of time has grown to like them both, and cleans up parts of time to help them out. The fact that the [=McFly=] family suddenly becomes awesome, and that Doc eventually found the love of his life, was little gifts from time itself. And the reason they often get into trouble (lightning bolt hitting the DeLorean much? Biff going back in time?) is time wanting to get them into adventures both for its own amusement and them getting amazing memories.

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* The reason Marty and Doc have time traveled several times without screwing up enough to make any fatal paradoxes is because the sentient parts of time has grown to like them both, and cleans up parts of time to help them out. The fact that the [=McFly=] family suddenly becomes awesome, and that Doc eventually found the love of his life, was little gifts from time itself. And the reason they often get into trouble (lightning bolt hitting the DeLorean [=DeLorean=] much? Biff going back in time?) is time wanting to get them into adventures both for its own amusement and them getting amazing memories.



** And where will our intrepid heroes go? Well, with the time circuits going berzerk, the Delorean wouldn't be confined from the measly range of 0 to 9999 AD. A crossover with Telltale's upcoming Jurassic Park game may occur, courtesy of the actual Jurassic Period (continental drift notwithstanding). And, of course, as hinted in Episode 1, [[spoiler:2011]] may also be on the cards.

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** And where will our intrepid heroes go? Well, with the time circuits going berzerk, the Delorean [=Delorean=] wouldn't be confined from the measly range of 0 to 9999 AD. A crossover with Telltale's upcoming Jurassic Park game may occur, courtesy of the actual Jurassic Period (continental drift notwithstanding). And, of course, as hinted in Episode 1, [[spoiler:2011]] may also be on the cards.



So the DeLorean was [[UnfortunateImplications feeling suicidal]] at the end of the third film?

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So the DeLorean [=DeLorean=] was [[UnfortunateImplications feeling suicidal]] at the end of the third film?



* And even without figuring out the time travel thing, it still has Mr. Fusion and a broken hover conversion, either of which could cause massive timeline changes. Basically, if the timestream doesn't destroy the DeLorean, there's going to be some major alterations to the timeline soon.

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* And even without figuring out the time travel thing, it still has Mr. Fusion and a broken hover conversion, either of which could cause massive timeline changes. Basically, if the timestream doesn't destroy the DeLorean, [=DeLorean=], there's going to be some major alterations to the timeline soon.



[[WMG:Carl Sagan's Cosmos inspired Doc to choose a Delorean.]]

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[[WMG:Carl Sagan's Cosmos inspired Doc to choose a Delorean.[=DeLorean=].]]
30th Oct '16 12:50:42 PM timrulez
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[[WMG: Lorraine's father really did disown her when she had Marty]
In 1955, Lorraine's father tells her, "If you ever have a kid like [Marty,] I'll disown you!" Now, this could be RuleofFunny, or he could have been serious. Think about it- Mr. Baines is never seen in the present day, and the only indication that the McFlys have a relationship with him is when Linda says, "Grandpa hit him with the car" (talking about George back in 1955). However, Linda is older than Marty, and thus, probably had a chance to form a relationship with her grandpa before Marty was born and Mr. Baines cut off all contact with his daughter.

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[[WMG: Lorraine's father really did disown her when she had Marty]
Marty]]
In 1955, Lorraine's father tells her, "If you ever have a kid like [Marty,] [Marty], I'll disown you!" Now, this could be RuleofFunny, or he could have been serious. Think about it- Mr. Baines is never seen in the present day, and the only indication that the McFlys have a relationship with him is when Linda says, "Grandpa hit him with the car" (talking about George back in 1955). However, Linda is older than Marty, and thus, probably had a chance to form a relationship with her grandpa before Marty was born and Mr. Baines cut off all contact with his daughter.
30th Oct '16 12:48:37 PM timrulez
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Now, keep in mind, [[spoiler:"Needle's Story" (the issue that came out before this series and detailed Needles meeting Marty in 1979)]] ended on [[spoiler:Needles in jail, telling Marty that he's coming after him once he gets out]]. Call me nutty, but I ''seriously'' think [[spoiler:Needles, once out, is going to stumble across a time machine, most likely the [=DeLorean=], go back to 1979, and go after Marty ''then'']]. The plot of "Hard Time" most likely is about the repercussions of [[spoiler:Needles altering Marty's past]].

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Now, keep in mind, [[spoiler:"Needle's Story" (the issue that came out before this series and detailed Needles meeting Marty in 1979)]] ended on [[spoiler:Needles in jail, telling Marty that he's coming after him once he gets out]]. Call me nutty, but I ''seriously'' think [[spoiler:Needles, once out, is going to stumble across a time machine, most likely the [=DeLorean=], go back to 1979, and go after Marty ''then'']]. The plot of "Hard Time" most likely is about the repercussions of [[spoiler:Needles altering Marty's past]].past]].

[[WMG: Lorraine's father really did disown her when she had Marty]
In 1955, Lorraine's father tells her, "If you ever have a kid like [Marty,] I'll disown you!" Now, this could be RuleofFunny, or he could have been serious. Think about it- Mr. Baines is never seen in the present day, and the only indication that the McFlys have a relationship with him is when Linda says, "Grandpa hit him with the car" (talking about George back in 1955). However, Linda is older than Marty, and thus, probably had a chance to form a relationship with her grandpa before Marty was born and Mr. Baines cut off all contact with his daughter.
2nd Oct '16 3:45:37 PM BobSaget9
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At this current moment, the Publisher's Summaries for the first three issues are out. From that, the following is clear: someone is after Marty, [[spoiler:his childhood memories are starting to not match the present, and issue #3's summary ''strongly'' hints at someone altering the past[[note]]"WHO IS MARTY McFLY?! He's the guy caught in a timestorm, that's who. Reality is shifting, and Marty and Doc not only don't know why or how... they don't even know that it's happening. Who else has a time machine... and why is it all Marty's fault?[[/note]]]].

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At this current moment, the Publisher's Summaries for the first three issues are out. From that, the following is clear: someone is after Marty, [[spoiler:his childhood memories are starting to not match the present, and issue #3's summary ''strongly'' hints at someone altering the past[[note]]"WHO IS MARTY McFLY?! [=McFLY=]?! He's the guy caught in a timestorm, that's who. Reality is shifting, and Marty and Doc not only don't know why or how... they don't even know that it's happening. Who else has a time machine... and why is it all Marty's fault?[[/note]]]].
2nd Oct '16 3:44:57 PM BobSaget9
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Forcing a naturally left-handed child to use his or her right hand, as was commonly done in former generations, can seriously damage the nervous system. That's why George was quirky. He was traumatized from the experience, and was turned into a wimp because of the browbeating. As a teenager, he eats and writes with his right hand, because that's what was drilled into him, but the punch he threw with his right hand clearly failed. Enter the left, which did the trick.

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Forcing a naturally left-handed child to use his or her right hand, as was commonly done in former generations, can seriously damage the nervous system. That's why George was quirky. He was traumatized from the experience, and was turned into a wimp because of the browbeating. As a teenager, he eats and writes with his right hand, because that's what was drilled into him, but the punch he threw with his right hand clearly failed. Enter the left, which did the trick.trick.

[[WMG: The BigBad of the next IDW arc, "Hard Time", is [[spoiler:Needles]]]]
At this current moment, the Publisher's Summaries for the first three issues are out. From that, the following is clear: someone is after Marty, [[spoiler:his childhood memories are starting to not match the present, and issue #3's summary ''strongly'' hints at someone altering the past[[note]]"WHO IS MARTY McFLY?! He's the guy caught in a timestorm, that's who. Reality is shifting, and Marty and Doc not only don't know why or how... they don't even know that it's happening. Who else has a time machine... and why is it all Marty's fault?[[/note]]]].

Now, keep in mind, [[spoiler:"Needle's Story" (the issue that came out before this series and detailed Needles meeting Marty in 1979)]] ended on [[spoiler:Needles in jail, telling Marty that he's coming after him once he gets out]]. Call me nutty, but I ''seriously'' think [[spoiler:Needles, once out, is going to stumble across a time machine, most likely the [=DeLorean=], go back to 1979, and go after Marty ''then'']]. The plot of "Hard Time" most likely is about the repercussions of [[spoiler:Needles altering Marty's past]].
21st Sep '16 5:12:20 PM CB2001
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* Even more so when you consider and include the events of the ''Back To The Future: The Ride'', where he founded the Institute of Future Technology, dedicated to creating tech that could shape the future. So, without Doc Brown, no Institute. No Institute, no 2015. Doc could have looked up what happened to him in the years between 1985 and 2015, discovering his achievements. Also, it would account for why he allowed Marty to bring the Hoverboard with him while chastising him for trying to take the Sports Almanac for financial gain, so he can reverse engineer it and start the ball rolling on hover tech and sending the world onto the path of the 2015 seen.
12th Sep '16 2:34:36 AM BradyLady
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Given his knack for inventing and creating machines, plus the considerable expense of re-creating a time machine from scratch with technology you would have to create from scratch right down to the basic components (no vacuum tubes even before the 1900s and no way Jules or Verne are even in their mid teens in the ending scene, so the family as we see them must come from the 1890s), it's hardly suprising and indeed necessary. Being a blacksmith in a whistle-stop town is hardly likely to generate that kind of income. Most likely he put his skills to work and started developing products and grew a manufacturing business out of it, which helped the nascent economy of Hill Valley on its way, whilst being careful to avoid inventing (or "inventing") anything too out-of-period for hte time that could be commercially exploited.

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Given his knack for inventing and creating machines, plus the considerable expense of re-creating a time machine from scratch with technology you would have to create from scratch right down to the basic components (no vacuum tubes even before the 1900s and no way Jules or Verne are even in their mid teens in the ending scene, so the family as we see them must come from the 1890s), it's hardly suprising and indeed necessary. Being a blacksmith in a whistle-stop town is hardly likely to generate that kind of income. Most likely he put his skills to work and started developing products and grew a manufacturing business out of it, which helped the nascent economy of Hill Valley on its way, whilst being careful to avoid inventing (or "inventing") anything too out-of-period for hte time that could be commercially exploited.exploited.

[[WMG: George was supposed to be left-handed.]]
Forcing a naturally left-handed child to use his or her right hand, as was commonly done in former generations, can seriously damage the nervous system. That's why George was quirky. He was traumatized from the experience, and was turned into a wimp because of the browbeating. As a teenager, he eats and writes with his right hand, because that's what was drilled into him, but the punch he threw with his right hand clearly failed. Enter the left, which did the trick.
5th Aug '16 8:15:17 AM TheLyniezian
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There is a definite resemblance and a deleted scene from that movie mentions that he children. Perhaps after his family lost their money in the Great Depression, one of his kids moved out west to find new opportunities.

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There is a definite resemblance and a deleted scene from that movie mentions that he children. Perhaps after his family lost their money in the Great Depression, one of his kids moved out west to find new opportunities.opportunities.

[[WMG: Doc Brown became an entrepreneur in the past.]]
Given his knack for inventing and creating machines, plus the considerable expense of re-creating a time machine from scratch with technology you would have to create from scratch right down to the basic components (no vacuum tubes even before the 1900s and no way Jules or Verne are even in their mid teens in the ending scene, so the family as we see them must come from the 1890s), it's hardly suprising and indeed necessary. Being a blacksmith in a whistle-stop town is hardly likely to generate that kind of income. Most likely he put his skills to work and started developing products and grew a manufacturing business out of it, which helped the nascent economy of Hill Valley on its way, whilst being careful to avoid inventing (or "inventing") anything too out-of-period for hte time that could be commercially exploited.
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