History WMG / Avatar

* Even if they also said that he eats puppies, he sold his [[DealWithTheDevil soul to the devil]], steals money from orphans, wears slippers made out of baby seal heads, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking jaywalks across every street he finds]]; I SERIOUSLY doubt many of his die-hard fans would like him any less ( Heck, it might make him even more {{Badass}} to the fans)

You know he's BadAss enough to do it.

Notice how similar "Na'vi" is to "naive". The movie isn't supposed to glorify the Na'vi and their ways, it's showing us how stupid people who act like that are. It sure seems that Jake joins the Na'vi more out of DistractedByTheSexy than any more intelligent reasons, and Quaritch is clearly too {{Badass}} for James Cameron to write in and ''not'' expect people to root for him. In truth, the RDA supporters are expressing the very message that was intended, and the Na'vi fans ''are'' the MisaimedFandom!

In the ''District 9'' timeline, the [[AllThereInTheManual poleepkwa]] / [[FantasticSlur prawns]] / [[EndersGame formica]] stay in their ship, and the government has enough time to organize a group and resources to "[[AnimalTesting stu]][[ANaziByAnyOtherName dy]]" them before sticking a can opener in the ship. In the ''Avatar'' timeline, they try to leave the ship for help as soon as they arrive, the humans [[UnnecessaryRoughness neutralize]] them, find a couple of inhabited planets on the charts, and head for the nearest one. When they get there (or partway there), they find that the [[{{Phlebotinum}} phluid]] couldn't get them back home, and only barely got them to Pandora. They find that the ships recognize the local GreenRocks that were kicked up by the crash as an alternative fuel source, head back to Earth at a slowed rate, then return once they've adapted the technology to run more efficiently on Unobtanium (still not as quick or efficient as the fluid, though) and drill for more [[{{Unobtanium}} space-oil]]. The humans [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters don't care who they harm]] because they learned back in the 1980s that [[BrokenAesop killing xenospecies for their resources results in consequence-free profit]]. Unfortunately for the Earth-Pandoran press, [[CantArgueWithElves the Na'vi]] were [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute too pretty]] to pin as a demonic race of human-eating, AlwaysChaoticEvil pests.

[[WMG: Eywa is [[EndersGame Jane]].]]

[[WMG: The fiasco on Pandora will lead to [[MegaCorp RDA's]] losing exploitation rights to a rival [[AlienVsPredator Company]].]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are based on the Iskai race of {{Albion}}]]

* So Cameron's gonna add {{Bionicle}} to the list of things he "borrows" from?

Hence why there aren't any AI recon robots and why the avatars are "grown" rather then "built": any mention of that technology has become [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed verboten]]. By ''Terminator: Salvation'', the earth (or at least California) has become pretty ruined by over a decade of nonstop war. After the defeat of [=SkyNet=], humanity entered a brief period of prosperity, but then the oil ran out and we quickly turned on each other and squandered what remained of the natural world.

*** "Earth" is really just a starting up Hive world that just happens to be called Earth # (kinda like how AlexanderTheGreat named a dozens cities after himself) that's either 1, a lost world, 2 a minor Warp Storm is stopping warp travel but without the daemons showing up (hey happen with Tau). The Na'vi arn't Eldar, they're more likly an uplifted race that the Eldar use as CannonFodder to protect their planet. Biel-Tan would probly kill both Humans and Na'vi, the humans well because, and the Na'vi for [[YouHaveFailedMe not doing their job]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are an [[GurrenLagann Anti-Spiral Race.]]]]

All of this is derived from information in the movie, though most if it is merely [[GeniusBonus shown and not explained, requiring some amount of extrapolation]], which is probably why [[ViewersAreMorons a lot of people seemed to have missed it.]]

* I always thought of it as an allegory for 4chan and the cancer that's killing /b/, with the company being GaiaOnline and unobtanium being memes and all kinds of things.

** '''Chinese''': Simply decide to colonize Pandora. Thousands of families arrive and begin to crowd out the Na'vi (''Tibet''). The Chinese also cross-breed the native flora on Pandora with fast growing bamboo. Ostensibly, they say this allows a more "robust connection with Eywa" to benefit the Na'vi, but in reality they can use it as a way to block/delay Eyway's transmissions (''Great Firewall of China''). Oh yeah, the Chinese are bunch of racists (as demonstrated with the communist treatment of the Uyghurs and the Tibetans in RealLife), so they would probably result to [[KillThemAll genocidal policies]] towards the Na'vi.

** '''Koreans''': They would most likely would have a strong economic relations with the Na'vi and would not seek to take their lands, but society wise, they would probably consider the Na'vi to be inferior beings (although would not resort to genocidal policies). TruthInTelevision, the Koreans are the most racist country in East Asia, even to the point that impose legal limitations on non-Koreans [[http://wikitravel.org/en/South_Korea#Stay_safe]]. Probably more racist than the Japanese and the Chinese

** '''Belgians:''' ''[[Literature/HeartOfDarkness The]] [[AxeCrazy horror!]] [[EvilOverlord THE]] '''HORROR!'''''

[[WMG: Eywa is [[TheSilmarillion Yavanna Kementari]].]]

** Let's take this a little farther. RDA goes bankrupt and gets bought out by various investors. These investors are of certain nationalities, and like the Americans in Avatar, they pursue their objectives on Pandora with echoes of their own ''Imperial/governing past'':
*** '''Americans''': Would seek to take their resources and KillThemAll. They would [[CulturePolice eventually forcfully assimilate]] the Na'vi population when they realize KillThemAll didn't work out well. This is meant to reflect on the United States treatment of the native peoples of the western frontier when settlers were expanding out westward.
*** '''Chinese''': Simply decide to colonize Pandora. Thousands of families arrive and begin to crowd out the Na'vi (''Tibet''). The Chinese also cross-breed the native flora on Pandora with fast growing bamboo. Ostensibly, they say this allows a more "robust connection with Eywa" to benefit the Na'vi, but in reality they can use it as a way to block/delay Eyway's transmissions (''Great Firewall of China''). Oh yeah, the Chinese are bunch of racists (as demonstrated with the communist treatment of the Uyghurs and the Tibetans in RealLife), so they would probably result to [[KillThemAll genocidal policies]] towards the Na'vi.
*** '''British''': The Brits keep a minimal footprint on the planet, both because they don't have as much personnel/resources as the other companies and also because they learned from RDA's failure (''British softly, softly strategy''). In their expeditions to other planets they discovered a substance that turns out to be highly addictive to Na'vi (''Opium''), and use that as leverage to get unobtainium.
*** '''Koreans''': They would most likely would have a strong economic relations with the Na'vi and would not seek to take their lands, but society wise, they would probably consider the Na'vi to be inferior beings (although would not resort to genocidal policies). TruthInTelevision, the Koreans are the most racist country in East Asia, even to the point that impose legal limitations on non-Koreans [[http://wikitravel.org/en/South_Korea#Stay_safe]]. Probably more racist than the Japanese and the Chinese
*** '''Spanish''': The Spanish simply try to use the Na'vi as native labor to collect unobtainium (''hacienda system''). I remember reading that this was an idea in the Project 880 draft. Like the Chinese, they would probably would use genocidal policies.
*** '''French''': The French would send settlers over to colonize strategic areas (''Quebec, Acadia, Louisiana''), with only miners, explorers (''voyageurs and coureurs des bois'') and researchers (''missionaries'') travelling into the hinterland. They would probably treat the Na'vi the most friendly like how the French treated the American Indians. Heck, the Na'vi might even ''ally'' with them.
*** '''Japanese''':
**** ''For an anti-Japanese POV'': They would probably take their lands and kill them all like ImperialJapan (seeing the infamous Nanking Massacre).
**** ''For a pro-Japanese POV'': Corporate businesses will invest with unobtainium and would have little interest with the Na'vi. The Japanese would probably be the most tolerant of the Asian nations when dealing with the Na'vi and would even be willing to establish cultural exchange with them. TruthInTelevsion, while Japan isn't really multicutural as per say, there are some young Japanese who have taken interests in different foreign subcultures, particularly [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_hip_hop African-American music]] according to TheOtherWiki.
*** '''Portuguese:''' Probably the same way as the Spanish.
*** '''Russians:''' They couldn't care less.
**** This Troper has to disagree with the Russian method since in RealLife it was closer to the French method
*** '''Australians''' Would move there en masse when they learn that there's a safer place they can live in than Australia.
*** '''Saudi Arabians''' Seeing as we all know Unobtanium is essentialy oil INSPACE (it produces energy) the sequel could have an ArabOilSheik plot where Saudi Arabians try to mine as much as debt when oil ran out and the market crashed years ago. The Western World will ''still'' be demonized for bying the Unobtanium
*** '''Belgians:''' ''[[{{Literature/HeartOfDarkness}} The]] [[AxeCrazy horror!]] [[EvilOverlord THE]] '''[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel HORROR!]]'''''

**** As an Aussie, I can honestly say I would prefer to live on a planet that has giant panther things then one that has all the evil shit Aus has.
***** I'd have to disagree on the American idea you had. We've had quite a bit of a collective character development about that sort of thing. At worst we'd try a nicer version of what rda started with and keep it that way. Also, we have enogh military force to take over at least 2/3 of the other earth colonies.

->"What was going through your head?"
-->--'''Grace Augustine'''
->What the hell have you people been smoking out there? They're just [[EpilepticTrees goddamn trees]]!
-->--'''Parker Selfridge'''

[[WMG: ''Avatar'' takes place ~600 years before ''WesternAnimation/{{WALL-E}}'']]
After the earth has been ruined but just before BNL completed the star-liners. After RDA's bad behavior reaches earth, everyone chooses the star-liners and RDA ceases to exist. Being kicked out by the Na'Vi causes the Earthicans to consider allowing their own planet to heal before invading other worlds again. Hell Gate doesn't have any of those nifty robots, uh, just because RDA isn't BNL and they probably would've been jerks to their robots anyway.

[[WMG: The Na'Vi will become the [[NewJediOrder Yuuzhan Vong]]]]

* [[CrowningMomentofFunny Just think about it for a moment]]... He's got a whole lot of detail in this movie, he's allowed a wiki containing a whole lot information about every animal, vehicle, and who knows what else to be created. It seems sort of fishy that people would suddenly "click" [[DaydreamBeliever into thinking they're a Na'vi of some kind]] after this movie was released. He's also got a really bad attitude, doesn't like humans that much in order to make them villains in a good chunk of his movies... And he's obsessed with the ocean... Obviously, the Na'vi empire has been looking at our planet for sometime, and realized that we have some special mineral or resource that's under the waters of the ocean... Something that can make them lots of money with some of their alien allies... and some of the highest deposits are located in some pretty weird places... Like the Bermuda triangle, the realms of the {{Titanic}}, and somewhere off the Californian coast. They have ultimately planned a massive invasion for earth on the year 2012, since at this point, humans will think that they're just a bunch of eco-friendly pushovers, when in reality, they're a bunch of almost cold-hearted merchant marines who seem to enjoy watching their ikrans tear up other non-Pandorian wildlife and want to have some "little men and women" for company... [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs No, I just sat down and thought about it all and it made sense]]...

* [[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined All this has happened before, but it doesn't have to happen again?]]

* This makes sense especially if one has seen BlueGender. Plus these lines from ''Series/BabylonFive'' explain why staying like the Na'vi is a bad thing.

By [[InvaderZim ZIM]]! After humiliating failure on Earth thanks to the Dib-creature, Zim tries again centuries later on a planet of tall people, since by defeating tall people he might again be given a chance at being a full-time Invader by the Almighty Tallest. Zim's Irken technology takes control of Eywa through her system control nerve (like the arm control nerve, but this one controls the entire system), thus granting him control of all of the creatures on Pandora. HilarityEnsues.

On Pandora, the linking-appendages of the native vertebrates originated as a means of exchanging minerals between individuals, within or between species, without the inherent risk of either participant in the exchange having to infect, or kill and eat, the other. The first species to develop such appendages would've used it to share resources within the family or social group; later, as its lineage proliferated and split into many, interspecies exchanges became feasible, allowing herbivores to sometimes make fragile truces with their predators by offering an exchange of nutrients and minerals in lieu of being eaten outright. The plants and fungi meanwhile developed their own equivalent linkages among themselves, which co-evolved with those of the animals to facilitate pollination and other mutually-beneficial exchanges.

Later, as the exchange-capable animals' brains grew more sophisticated, the exchange of ''information'' via neural linkage became possible, and linking became the enabler of more-advanced forms of cooperation between species. This took Hypersea to a level far beyond what our own Earth has (yet?) achieved, making data and direct physical assistance as much of a shareable commodity as nitrogen and phosphorus, and was a likely catalyst for the development of full sentience in both the Na'vi pseudo-primate lineage and in the collective vegetative network that became Eywa.

Later, as the exchange-capable animals' brains grew more sophisticated, the exchange of ''information'' via neural linkage became possible, and linking became the enabler of more-advanced forms of cooperation between species. This took Hypersea to a level far beyond what our own Earth has (yet?) achieved, and was a likely catalyst for the development of full sentience in both the Na'vi pseudo-primate lineage and in the collective vegetative network that became Eywa.

[[WMG: Pandora is a next-stage development of the Hypersea phenomenon.]]
"Hypersea" is a bio/geo/ecological paradigm which proposes that eukaryotic life on Earth, in colonizing dry land, effectively brought the ocean with it, in the form of the living biological fluids (cytoplasm, blood plasma, tree sap, etc) comprising organisms' bodies. Collectively, these fluids provide the transport medium for dissolved minerals that marine life could just skim out of the seawater. By passing fluids between one another, whether through cooperative coexistence like a lichen, parasitism like a liver fluke or bark-borer beetle, or predation like an aphid or a vampire bat, land-based organisms sustain themselves by using one another as their "ocean". On Earth, this allows substances like nitrogen to be extracted from the ground by fungi, which pass them to plants in exchange for sugar; the plants then provide a mineral source for herbivores and plant-parasites, which sustain predators and still more parasites, etc. Organisms that form intimate connections with one another to allow this transfer tend to thrive the best, hence trees with fungi to swap them nutrients grow much larger than small shrubs which lack such partners.

On Pandora, the linking-appendages of the native vertebrates originated as a means of exchanging minerals between individuals, within or between species, without the inherent risk of either participant in the exchange having to infect, or kill and eat, the other. The first species to develop such appendages would've used it to share resources within the family or social group; later, as its lineage proliferated and split into many, interspecies exchanges became feasible, allowing herbivores to sometimes make fragile truces with their predators by offering an exchange of nutrients and minerals in lieu of being eaten outright. The plants and fungi meanwhile developed their own equivalent linkages among themselves, which co-evolved with those of the animals to facilitate pollination and other mutually-beneficial exchanges.

Later, as the exchange-capable animals' brains grew more sophisticated, the exchange of ''information'' via neural linkage became possible, and linking became the enabler of more-advanced forms of cooperation between species. This took Hypersea to a level far beyond what our own Earth has (yet?) achieved, and was a likely catalyst for the development of full sentience in both the Na'vi pseudo-primate lineage and in the collective vegetative network that became Eywa.