History WMG / Avatar

* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Just think about it for a moment]]... He's got a whole lot of detail in this movie, he's allowed a wiki containing a whole lot information about every animal, vehicle, and who knows what else to be created. It seems sort of fishy that people would suddenly "click" [[DaydreamBeliever into thinking they're a Na'vi of some kind]] after this movie was released. He's also got a really bad attitude, doesn't like humans that much in order to make them villains in a good chunk of his movies... And he's obsessed with the ocean... Obviously, the Na'vi empire has been looking at our planet for sometime, and realized that we have some special mineral or resource that's under the waters of the ocean... Something that can make them lots of money with some of their alien allies... and some of the highest deposits are located in some pretty weird places... Like the Bermuda triangle, the realms of the [[UsefulNotes/RMSTitanic Titanic]], and somewhere off the Californian coast. They have ultimately planned a massive invasion for earth on the year 2012, since at this point, humans will think that they're just a bunch of eco-friendly pushovers, when in reality, they're a bunch of almost cold-hearted merchant marines who seem to enjoy watching their ikrans tear up other non-Pandorian wildlife and want to have some "little men and women" for company... [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs No, I just sat down and thought about it all and it made sense]]...

[[WMG:Humans call it Unobtainium, {{Transformers}} call it Energon]]

* Alternatively, Quaritch ''is'' Lord Genome. Note that they're both muscular, AmbiguouslyBrown [[RatedMForManly manly]] badasses who pilot mecha and have survived being on (self-inflicted, in Genome's case) fire. He managed to survive his impalement (which is backed up by his actor, and Lord Genome has been through worse) through his sheer reserves of Spiral Energy, but was taken back to Earth, where he, realising how powerful the Anti-Spirals were and how they responded to Earth's conditions, decided that the only way to save Earth from an Anti-Spiral attack from some of the more developed Anti-Spirals was to force everyone underground and establish himself as sole ruler of the surface, making sure to keep the population low enough to not trigger the Anti-Spirals' ire. Since his mastery of Spiral Energy made him immortal, his scars faded from a combination of old age and Spiral Energy, and somewhere along the line he shaved his head and grew a beard. RDA didn't let him bring the Lazengann to Pandora because it wasn't theirs, but if he did, he'd probably have won.

[[WMG:Pandora is [[{{F/Foundation}} Gaia]].]]

[[WMG:The Truffula Trees in ''WesternAnimation/TheLorax'', form a planetwide consciousness, just like Eywa in ''Film/{{Avatar}}''.]]
Looking at the Truffula tree in The Lorax, you can see it's stringy - just like the memory tree in ''Avatar''. They have a force protecting them, and their removal removes the "spirit" from the land.

* Seriously: it is CONFIRMED beyond a SHADOW OF A DOUBT that Unobtanium is a resource crucial to the survival of humanity by letting them get the hell off Earth, and by engaging in highly, HIGHLY unnecessary saber-rattling the RDA jsut jeprodized THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. Sorry, but regardless of how much humanity values private industry at home, there is literally no one who could afford to let that happen: even OTHER Megacorps. As a result, the RDA will be presented with an ultimatum of capitulation or destruction, or at the VERY LEAST their mission to Pandora will be nationalized or at BEST monitered by the regular military with authorization to KillEmAll if they detect the RDA acting up again.

*** ''For a pro-Japanese POV'': Corporate businesses will invest with unobtainium and would have little interest with the Na'vi. The Japanese would probably be the most tolerant of the Asian nations when dealing with the Na'vi and would even be willing to establish cultural exchange with them. TruthInTelevsion, while Japan isn't really multicutural as per say, there are some young Japanese who have taken interests in different foreign subcultures, particularly [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_hip_hop African-American music]] according to Wiki/TheOtherWiki.

[[AllThereInTheManual In Pandorapedia or whatever the hell it's called]], while gushing about the [[MarySuetopia Na'vi]] and saying how [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters eeeeviiiiil humans are]], it mentions how the Na'vi have a form of population control but don't specify ''what'' it is. Given how the Na'vi seem to have no disabled people amongst their ranks and know how to handle themselves fairly well against the wildlife thus not getting eaten in enough numbers to count, this might suggest that they "discard" those seen as weak. Older people are probably exempt since they have wisdom and whatnot, but the newborns who have yet to contribute to society... not so lucky.

[[spoiler: Ozymandias]]'s peace lasted well into the 21st century. After [[spoiler: Dr. Manhattan left]] for Pandora, humanity continued to progress, eventually setting out for the stars themselves. It's no coincidence that they came upon the same moon- after all, it must be the best planet/moon to support life closest to Earth. Once there, Dr. Manhattan created the ecosphere of Pandora, which explains why almost all of the animals there look like animals from Earth. Dr. Manhattan set up a tribal society to skip all of the boring stuff and go straight to the point where they create technologies and such things. He took the form of a tree, and encoded a way for all the inhabitants of his planet to talk to him. That explains pretty much everything that everyone complained about this movie.

* This could also mean that ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' takes place within as well. Maybe the [[spoiler: Engineers]]made them and how they colonized Pandora.

The prawns managed to get back to their home planet (or all the Earth-bound ones died), the humans resolved to leave them alone, but reverse-engineered a lot of their technology before they left (such as the robot suits, weapons, and ships) and then headed out to colonize new stars. The study of Wikus's transformation was an integral part of the creation of Avatar technology. However, it seems that the humans still haven't learned their lesson about treating alien species nicely...
* Prawns versus Na'Vi. Needs to happen. (more like [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Prawns vs Na'Vi vs Aliens vs Predators vs Terminators vs]] [[SerialEscalation a giant mecha build out of the Titanic]]...)

[[WMG:The Na'Vi will become the [[Literature/NewJediOrder Yuuzhan Vong]]]]
* Earth will try and invade again, and Pandora will provide the Na'Vi with living weapons and ships. Eventually they conquer the Galaxy and destroy Pandora, then set a coarse for a new Galaxy.

Because Na'Vi in the UTs '''must happen.'''

The Na'Vi have the same NoodlePeople-esque proportions as the Evas. Somewhere on Earth:
-> "How big can we make an avatar, and can we shut off their pain receptors so we can bolt 'em into an exosuit?"\\

** There are two options. First: The Unobtainium is Wraithbone. Eywa is clearly Infinity Circuit. Na'Vi are an Exodite Eldar tribe, but look different because of UnreliableNarrator or [[HandWave something]]. Humans are actually lucky their ass is handed to them by the planet itself, because if it failed, Biel-Tan would come and sweep them. Second: It's a Maiden World. More possible than the first option, since, you know, it's third millenium, not fourtieth.

** Pandora was of course created by the Xel'Naga. Eywa is like the Zerg Overmind, only granting Pandora's inhabitans far more free will than the average zerg has. (Eywa initiating the stampede to counter the human forces was considered very unusual even by the Na'Vi.)

** The Na'Vi are related to the Protoss, but more primitive.

After the earth has been ruined but just before [=BnL=] completed the star-liners. After RDA's bad behavior reaches earth, everyone chooses the star-liners and RDA ceases to exist. Being kicked out by the Na'Vi causes the Earthicans to consider allowing their own planet to heal before invading other worlds again. Hell Gate doesn't have any of those nifty robots, uh, just because RDA isn't [=BnL=] and they probably would've been jerks to their robots anyway.

After millennia of warfare, everybody who knows the true history of the universe is dead, and the next best theory is... the TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} fluff. [[spoiler: Also, Colonel Quaritch's DNA is used to create the Space Marines, his most notable descendant being Ursakar Creed.]]\

* Convergence is supposed to merge consiousness into an immortal, infinitely wise overmind, distributed among superman bodies-The [[EldritchAbomination Hive Mind]] and [[OurZombiesAreDifferent Necromorphs]] when things go awry, Eywa and Pandoran wildlife[=/=]Na'Vi when things go right. The Pandoran Neuron Trees are a benevolent form of [[MeatMoss Corruption]], Viperwolves are [[DemonicSpiders Stalkers]], Thanators are [[DeadWeight Brutes]], [[GetOnWithIt the list goes on.]] Na'Vi die physically to return their biomass to the ecosystem, but their consiousness' are fused into Eywa's; Necromorphs recombine into deadlier forms in order to harvest more prey, and are reclaimed, piecemeal by the corruption when killed.

Anyway, one of the last things he says is that he's going to go create some life of his own. He finds Blue Jupiter with its nicely situated moons and sets up shop, creating the Na'Vi in his own image: tall, idealized, mostly naked, blue, able to "connect" with the world on a higher level then humans, and peaceful. The "catlike" part comes from Bubastis, whose molecules (or whatever) have become integrated with Manhattan's.

* If the Na'Vi ever got around to develop a {{Mayincatec}}-style civilization, I bet their interpretation of Eyah would look a lot like a bipedial Bubastis with dredlocks.

-> As near as I can figure it, about four thousand years ago someone or something brought a proto-Polynesian tribe here from Earth, genetically engineering their bodies to survive on this world, made them known to Eywa, and released them. That is why the Na'vi seem so familiar to us – their appearance, their culture, their language. The Na'vi were human once. That is why it was relatively easy for our technology to build Avatars. The original genetic modifications made the Na'vi genotype readily adaptable to the changes required for the Avatar program. I've spent the last two years deciphering the technology that they used. It hasn't been easy – it is hundreds of years in advance of where Earth is right now, and somehow they linked it with Eywa. If not for that I could never have learnt what I have. (Shows amino pods.)

* I spent the afternoon chewing over this topic (he'd been entertaining a similar theory, only less developed) and came to the following realization: if true, it makes Eywa morally ambiguous ''and'' more sympathetic at the same time. Think of her as a more limited [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Nicol Bolas]] from the Shards of Alara storyline: vastly intelligent and powerful, but suddenly mortal (Bolas had recently become mortal, Eywa had recently become aware of her mortality) and determined to preserve him/herself at all costs. As a result, she's willing to go to any lengths to preserve herself, including [[MindRape brainwashing]] the aliens who've uplinked with her into becoming her stooges and compelling the fauna to kill and die on her behalf. If the Tree of Souls was what both Quaritch and the Na'Vi thought it was, it was the center of a good deal of Eywa's mental activity; destroying it could well have lobotomized her, and she had no intention of letting that happen. This ultimately makes Eywa and the humans not so different- each has their agenda, and are willing to pursue it to the bitter end, all for the sake of their planet. Ultimately, the conflict between her and Quaritch/RDA was inevitable due to fundamentally conflicting goals, and she won for the same reasons Bolas won: not simply being more powerful and more intelligent than the opposing player, but also by having the advantage of knowing the game was even being played.

** Ewya probably has an easy job convincing them that she's God, because let's face it, [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien she is]]. She created all life on Pandora and the Na'Vi, is a part of every living thing, and can control the environment if necessary. She probably never has to tell a lie when you look at it that way.

[[WMG:Eywa is an EldritchAbomination that eats the Na'Vis souls after death]]
The Tree of Souls are her stomach, the smaller trees are her many mouths. When Na'Vi upload their souls into the trees after death, she does not take care of them, she simply consumed them. Think about it: If Eywa is benevolent, why doesn't she share help the Na'Vi advance as a civilisation? Instead she manipulates them into stigmatising the concept of progress. This is because they are but cattle to her, and if they developed science, they would have the tools to examine the trees and to realize that they have been tricked. Why doesn't Eywa stop the wars between the different tribes? Because she needs a steady flow of dead souls. Why is the wildlife so dangerous and why doesn't Eywa protect the Na'Vi from it? The same answer. More dead Na'Vi means more dead souls. The only reason why Eyva helped the Na'Vi against the humans is that the humans were going to destroy the tree of souls, which would kill Eywa.
[[WMG: Eywa is a Shaper from Anthem, or maybe the collective consciousness of several that has fused with the planet.]]

* A ''Dying Earth''; in a couple of years, Earth's resources are completely depleted and humans are faced with a need to relocate somewhere... fast. They invade Pandora once again, with a HUGE force, but this time it's no mere profiteering -- it's their last and desperate attempt to escape extinction. Jake is going to have some very uneasy choices -- if he has any humanity left in him by the point. Any humans that survive will all be transferred into Na'Vi or Avatar bodies.

** Now that would be an interesting story. Both the humans and the Na'Vi need to work together to survive, but there seems to be too much bad blood between them. Jake, being both Na'Vi and human, has the best chance to bridge the gap between the two cultures. It would also be a good opportunity to see some non-bastard humans.

** Jake (now Jaysulli) and the other Avatars use a modified shuttle to explore the moons due to Grace's spirit making everyone curious. Maybe the Na'Vi already have a ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGummiBears Gummi Bears]]''-style light Morse-code style of communication with the ones that face Pandora.

* Given the utterly rampant HumansAreTheRealMonsters, and Jake's grim statements about them spreading to destroy everything, the next movie will have the Na'Vi developing space travel, so they can destroy Earth before the Humans find another world less defended than Pandora to attack.
* The Na'Vi will gain the ability to control the unobtainium from the native animals, using movements that appear to be based on forms of martial arts. Without anything to name this new ability, they will be forced to call it Bending. Then Bryke can threaten to sue James's Cameron's ass.

* '''[[Norse by Norsewest All Scandinavian Nations]]:''' They would all be perfect, and try to help the Na'Vi in anyway they can in a Scandinavian alliance

* I think all the RED Na'Vi would get confused ([[WhosOnFirst "But we're all blue!" "No, they're BLU not blue!" "HUH?"]])

** He's gonna be a 12-foot-tall [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Red XIII]]?! [[note]]I know he's not a dog but the Na'Vi aren't cats, they're monkeys/lemurs and despite what you seen in ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'', lions ''hate'' monkeys.[[/note]]

[[WMG:Trudy isn't dead. She'll return leading her own clan of Na'Vi in the sequel, known simply as the 'Too badass to explode'.]]

[[WMG:Dr. Grace will come back as a Na'Vi.]]
The BrainUploading process took much longer to work because she is a older scientist, and Jake was a young soldier, he had less to give up and had became fully ingrained into the Na'Vi culture, whereas she was still distanced from it, essentially Jake was Na'Vi already, whereas she was only studying and teaching them, along with her being older meaning she probably had more "data" in her head to process, her mind was still "buffering" in the sequel we find out she was just in a coma while it finished, and is shocked to discover that Jake has became the leader of the Na'Vi and drove the company off planet.

[[WMG:The Na'Vi have/will have "Bogeyman" tales of Skypeople who returned from the dead]]
As far as I can recall, it's never stated that if a reckless/irresponsible driver dies while in his Avatar body, the driver will be killed as well. Therefore, the scientists can simply grow another Avatar and the driver can return, looking exactly the same and being well able to prove that he is the Skyperson who the Na'Vi were sure had died.

Think about it. All that time he spent on the planning of this movie? He was actually working with a group of elite scientists to create the technology to have people transfer their minds into Na'Vi avatars. After releasing Avatar and its subsequent sequels, and enough people wish they could become like the Na'Vi (like they don't already) he'll release the technology for the price of a few million dollars per person. Little do we know that he's also replicated the technology that makes Eywa so powerful, and has injected it into himself...making him the source of all the connections between the Na'Vi. With millions of people as slaves to his ideals, and all their money...Cameron will truly be King of the World, as he prophesied so long ago.

Tying into that, Na'Vi are extremely long lived--when Neytiri mentions that her grandfather united the clans in "a time of darkness," she meant that it was dark out all the time back then.

* So Pandora is Franchise/{{Tron}} / [[WesternAnimation/ReBoot Mainframe]]? And the Na'Vi are sprites and the humans are... ''[[TheVirus viruses]]?!''

Due to the Na'Vi being part of a mental network, this likely means that if there's a Jarhead Clan, they'd know it, and if there wasn't, they'd know that and realize that "Jakesully" is lying and/or making things up.

All credit goes to the troper who originally wrote it. This was deleted from the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation example on the film's page, but it's too interesting to ignore especially in light of the fact that Cameron's first idea for a tie-in videogame was an ''VideoGame/EnterTheMatrix''-style MMORPG (there wasn't enough time or money). If I recall that troper's idea correctly, Jake is a newbie player to an MMORPG, let's call it "Pandora" (not to be confused with the movie ''Pandor'''um'''''). By good luck he lands in one of the best guilds (the Na'Vi), who are nice enough to guide him through the game and beef him up a bit so that [[EverythingTryingToKillYou everything doesn't kill him]]. While his video game avatar (har) is thriving, his RealLife body begins to suffer: his sleep schedule is shot, he's hardly eating, barely keeping track of his personal hygiene, and is becoming obsessive to the point of reality blurring. Eventually it all comes crashing down on him. Obviously, the flaw in this interpretation is that the Na'Vi and Pandora are very real, and Jake's actions in that world have very real consequences.

[[WMG:Quaritch (henceforth "Kernell Ba'Dass" since Na'Vi doesn't have the "ch" sound) will become a MemeticBadAss Bogeyman to all young Na'Vi]]

* HesJustHiding '''''[[spoiler: RIGHT BEHIND YOU!]]'''''
** 7 feet tall he'd still be rather tiny compared to the Na'vi - 9-10 feet tall on average, but that's about as tall as a human can get before it causes health problems that would've gotten him rejected from the Marines in the first place (the world's tallest woman was, at 8' or 9', also the world's tallest disabled person because her body was so heavy she could barely move without causing severe strain on her heart). It's also an echo to ''Literature/TheHobbit'': Bilbo's uncle was so tall (for a Hobbit) that he rode a horse into battle; likewise Quaritch was so tall (comparatively) he could've ridden the Na'Vi's mounts. Which he did, just to see if it was possible to ride one without a bond (it's possible, but only for badasses).

* While getting Jake on the side of the Na'Vi was the plan, they didn't expect Neytiri to fall for him; likewise Jake didn't plan on falling for her either, and letting it slip that the Na'Vi can't be negotiated with scuttled his diplomacy plan. Her parents didn't have a lot of time to react to the news because their sacred grove had been bulldozed and then Jake and Grace fell unconcsious; the next time Jake meets them there isn't time to talk about it because Hometree is about to be attacked. However, since they they're now soul-bonded for life there's not a whole lot they can do.

** Eywa doesn't control the Na'Vi? If that's so, how come they only have one language, one religion? How come there seems that there are no political or cultural differences between the tribes that we know about? Is their mother robbing them from their individuality, in order to protect them as a whole?

[[WMG:The Na'Vi and Avatars will become future AncientAstronauts]]
Eventually all the humans left on Pandora will have avatar bodies and intermarry with the Na'Vi. They'll go back to earth and repopulate it, starting with the smilar-looking Pandoran plants. The Na'Vi-gators who settle on Earth will lose their blue coloring and become primate-like (again), and millions of years later the whole thing starts up again. Maybe the Na'Vi Sapiens become elves, like in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' or in a worst-case scenario, [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} The Eldar]].

** I'd add in Poul Anderson's "Call Me Joe". We have an enviroment hostile to humans (Jupiter), a mind-link between an artificially made living being and an cripple who used to be a fighter. The "artificial" being is blue.

*** When your culture utterly sucks, and you have no human connections in it, adapting into another that offers better deal in every way isn't that unbelieavable. Remember, the Earth in ''Avatar'' is not a modern day Western society where most people have a decent lifestyle - it's a CrapsackWorld more akin to the worst urban nightmares in the Third World. The pollution is rampant, most people get nothing but algae to eat (with various seasonings), and psychologically people are isolated and afraid. It's not a culture difficult to reject, especially to a depressed loner like Jake.

[[WMG:Quaritch will become a MemeticBadAss and Bogeyman to all young military personnal.]]

Strength+ Experience+ Stupidity. You've got to be strong enough to hold on long enough to bond with it, experienced enough to jump on its back from fifteen feet up (minimum, at full stealth-dive speed) ''and'' beat its mind into submission, and stupid enough to try (since even an incredibly desperate Na'vi wouldn't bother, unless they were experienced enough to have lost most of the stupidity and probably some of the strength). Young Na'vi who try are usually killed because they lack the experience, and sometimes the strength. The older Na'vi are wise enough not to try in the first place.

* Alternately, they will make better use of their control of all information coming from pandora, and make the Na'vi seem like the {{Mayincatec}}, with buckets of {{Gorn}}-filled propaganda about their love of HumanSacrifice. With the Na'Vi thrown past the MoralEventHorizon, and the humans that remained painted [[TheMole even worse]], [[NiceJobBreakingItHero they'll never have to worry about PR again]], and can try again next time with {{Killsat}}s, making it a HopelessWar for the Na'Vi. Like it should have been to start with, since guys with bows and arrows were going up against people with [[KillItWithFire napalm]], [[MacrossMissileMassacre guided missiles]], [[MoreDakka machineguns]] and [[HumongousMecha mecha]].

Any Na'vi who hitch a ride will freak out, because the whole place is so [[CrossingTheDesert wierdly dead]] and [[DeathWorld deadly wierd]]. But they'll find a strange kinship with the native crab/ant/lizard-people, because some time ago, all of Polyphemus's moons were a single rock, and some sort of [[EarthShatteringKaboom cataclysm]] [[ArtisticLicenseSpace split them into different moons.]] The stranded Proto-Na'vi [[ArtisticLicenseBiology evolved to their particular world]], and well... you can figure out the rest.

The "dark times" referred to a problem with the local Eywha connections. Neytiri's grandfather bonded with the Toruk and became some sort of uber-priest, rather than just a warrior. A Battle Priest, since having a living, flying tank five times your height in length is pretty useful in battle, but a priest nonetheless. There have only been five Toruk Makto because the Toruk can tell when there's a problem with Eywa's local system (Like "millions of plant-neurons, crying out and suddenly being burmed to death"), and would never have even let a future Toruke Makto get closer than grazing its skin if there wasn't the necessity. That's how [[spoiler: Jakesulli]] knew to send it away instead of keeping it until it died, either in battle or of old age, like the previous rider.

** ... This happened in the movie, you realize.

[[WMG:Humans do return to Pandora and pretty much destory the wildlife, resulting in the desert Pandora of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}''.]]

** Rival companies like Dahl and Hyperion nukes the Na'Vi from orbit, and starts to mass-mine the eriduim for their own purposes.

** The Na'Vi could have started to discover the wonders of unobtainum, and started to incorporate the ore into their weapons, hence the E-tech

The RDA is clearly an American company, and only seems to employ american marines, scientists, ect. More obviously it uses american flag colours in a propoganda poster. Word of God says that it was rocked in an Inter-Continental war. INTER-CONTINENTAL. Its possible that most of Earth is fine, although America has become an over-populated, over-polluted parady of itself. When the humans refer to "Earth", the war has infact left them so patriotic that they only mean America, or the western world.

Specifically, something happened to prevent the Environmental movement. Without such pesky concerns such as the environment, the Industrial Revolution continued on until the entire ecosystem was destroyed. In addition, considering Quaritch's attitude towards the Na'Vi (i.e. that they're evil savages that must be wiped off the face of [[strike:the Earth]] Pandora) it's very possible that the great colonial empires of the 19th century still exist in some form.

* True on all fronts, but the fatality rate may not be as high as you think, mostly due to the general 'sturdiness' of the Na'vi. Jake obviously screws up his first leaf-jump, but survives. A human taking the same fall would suffer at least a broken rib (but anyone falling off during Iknimaya is dead guaranteed). Related to that; The Na'vi may not reproduce all that often. Most relationships you see in Avatar are generally businesslike (ie. Eytukan + Mo'at, or Mo'at just has the Na'vi version of menopause), and there's an obvious lack of privacy for you to do your thing. You're surrounded by various other clan members all day and all night, so Jake's encounter with Neytiri at the Tree of Voices may be his last sexual one for quite a while.

But instead of Nuking the site from orbit They'll send in new combat units that [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} look familiar]]. They'll be taller than the human shaped model, and have Na'Vi flesh on them, sneak into their tribes, then reveal themselves to shock the Na'Vi, and will be led by one who looks like [[ColonelBadass Quaritch]] and has his brain uploaded into it.

--> 1. Neytiri had to fall in love with someone else
--> 2. That ''someone else'' can kick Tsu'tey's ass completely
--> 3. Tsu'tey has to be rendered unable to take the position of clan leader (by death or otherwise)

* Imagine the [[EldritchAbomination Na'Vi Xenomophs.]]
** Imagine the [[NoodlePeople Na'Vinomorphs]]. They might break in half from a stiff breeze if they don't inherit enough Xenomorph armor, but they could get through any [[AirVentPassageway air ducts]] we could make!

* With that said, if humans from Coda ever make their way onto Pandora, Eywa finding out their origin would almost certainly cause nearly every native lifeform to feel that something is intrinsically ''wrong'' with the new arrivals, in no small part due to the fact that technology on Coda makes very heavy use of Ember, a dangerous by-product of the already-unstable Anthem of Creation. Eywa, knowing the danger of the Anthem due to being a Shaper, would not feel comfortable with Ember by itself, and the fact that the Codans use it extensively would cause Eywa to be highly cautious of them the moment they set foot on the surface.

[[WMG: Eywa is a Shaper from Anthem, or rather the collective consciousness of several that have fused with the planet.]]

** '''Americans''': Would seek to take their resources and KillThemAll. They would [[CulturePolice eventually forcfully assimilate]] the Na'vi population when they realize KillThemAll didn't work out well. This is meant to reflect on the United States treatment of the native peoples of the western frontier when settlers were expanding out westward.

All credit goes to the troper who originally wrote it. This was deleted from the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation example on the film's page, but it's too interesting to ignore especially in light of the fact that Cameron's first idea for a tie-in videogame was an ''VideoGame/EnterTheMatrix''-style MMORPG (there wasn't enough time or money). If I recall that troper's idea correctly, Jake is a newbie player to an MMORPG, let's call it "Pandora" (not to be confused with the movie ''Pandor'''um'''''). By good luck he lands in one of the best guilds (the Na'Vi), who are nice enough to guide him through the game and beef him up a bit so that [[EverythingTryingToKillYou everything doesn't kill him]]. While his video game avatar (har) is thriving, his RealLife body begins to suffer: his sleep schedule is shot, he's hardly eating, barely keeping track of his personal hygiene, and is [[TheTetrisEffect becoming obsessive to the point of reality blurring]]. Eventually it all comes crashing down on him. Obviously, the flaw in this interpretation is that the Na'Vi and Pandora are very real, and Jake's actions in that world have very real consequences.

[[folder: Shared Universe]]
[[WMG: Pandora and the Andalite Home-world are very close in cultural-relations]]

[[WMG: Pandora is the planet of Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind and Anime/CastleInTheSky.]]

[[WMG: Pandora is located in the 'Verse, and RDA's expedition was a failed effort to halt the collapse of Earth-That-Was]]

[[WMG: Quarrich is a reincarnation of [[Literature/WatershipDown General Woundwort]]]]

[[WMG: Avatar takes place in the Watchmen Universe]]

[[WMG: Avatar is set in the same universe as Aliens. And, by extension, Predator]]

[[WMG: Avatar is the future of the VideoGame/MetalGear universe]]

[[WMG: [[InCaseYouForgotWhoWroteIt James Cameron's]] ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' is an [[AlternateHistory Alternate Future]] of ''Film/{{District 9}}''.]]

[[WMG: Miles Quaritch is the Sarge from VideoGame/QuakeIIIArena.]]

[[WMG: Avatar is a precursor to Franchise/{{Halo}}]]

[[WMG: The Na'Vi will become the [[Literature/NewJediOrder Yuuzhan Vong]]]]

[[WMG: Multiple moons with (possibly) different environment themes? Clearly ''Avatar'' takes place in the Franchise/RatchetAndClank universe.]]

[[WMG: The fiasco on Pandora will lead to [[MegaCorp RDA's]] losing exploitation rights to a rival [[Franchise/AlienVsPredator Company]].]]

[[WMG: Eywa is [[VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri Lady Deirdre Skye]]]]

[[WMG: Eywa is Shub-Niggurath]]

[[WMG: Pandora/Eywa is [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Rei Ayanami]].]]

[[WMG: Eywa is more like a Great Spirit than a God]]

[[WMG: Pandora is [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Draenor]], before the planet went kaboom and became Outland.]]

[[WMG: Pandora will become the battleground for a conflict between the [[Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Vogons]] and the [[Literature/BattlefieldEarth Psychlos]].]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are related to [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime another Navi]].]]

[[WMG: This is all somehow related to the [[VideoGame/{{Starcraft}} Dark Templar Saga]]:]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are based on the Iskai race of ''VideoGame/{{Albion}}'']]

[[WMG: Pandora was created by the Na'vi]]

[[WMG: Unobtainium? Well, the rest of the galaxy knows it as [[Franchise/MassEffect Element Zero]].]]

[[WMG: Eywa is [[Literature/TheSilmarillion Yavanna Kementari]].]]

[[WMG: Pandora is really an [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer40000}} Eldar exodite world]].]]

[[WMG: Eywa is mind controlling the entire Pandoran biosphere for some reason.]]

[[WMG: The [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorphs]] where originally from Pandora ]]

[[WMG: Quaritch's MisaimedFandom is in for a rude awakening in TheSequel.]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are an [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Anti-Spiral Race.]]]]

[[WMG: Pandora is how Earth was ''supposed'' to turn out in Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy.]]

[[WMG: Pandoran wildlife is descended from a stray [[{{Website/Neopets}} NeoPet]] ]]

[[WMG: Earth has been united under the [[VideoGame/{{Starcraft}} Terran Dominion]]]]

*** This makes far more sense then the UED being involved: the [[AllThereInTheManual Starcraft manual]] notes that the 22nd century (and pre-UPL 23d) was characterized by technology continuing to proliferate amongst the populance, population growth continuing unabated, despite the efforts of world leaders to stem the increase, pollution and a lack of natural resources impact the world economy, with many core economic systems fold in on themselves and shut down and tensions continue to grow between the humanist and corporate factions over the use and capitalization of cybernetics and genetic mutations, resulting in numerous acts of terrorism and violence. Avatar takes place in 2154, 75 years before the establishment of the United Powers League, and could fit in with the above description for the period in Starcraft... so, a scenario connecting Starcraft and Avatar, even if not following the title of this WMG: the Avatar and Starcraft descriptions for Earth are both true when accounting for exaggerations and unreliable narrators. The RDA's unobtanium mining operation have alleviated Earth's problems, but at the cost of making unobtanium a vital resource and making the RDA into the dominant corporate entity. Following the events of Avatar, the sudden cease in unobtanium access leads to the Earth plunging into renewed chaos, as the resource problem once again becomes critical and corporate rivals take advantage of the RDA's humbling... in the end leading to the very much pro-human (with a strict definition of human) UPL being formed and harshly restoring order. Being a very much pro-human dictatorial regime with control of the media, and with FTL drives finally developed, the Na'vi 'problem' is easily solved, but the UPL, remembering what happened the last time humanity became dependent on unobtanium, keeps it heavily restricted and limits its use. As for why Terran technology resembles that of Avatar: the Koprulu colonists had to rebuild their technological base to a 2231 level before being able to developed further. Two and a half century after their original arrival, they still haven't gotten ''that'' far from where the UPL was in 2231... which was still close enough to 2154 that weapons, armour, etc would resemble their predecessors enough to be seen by a layman. And the UED? [[WordOfGod Used the Koprolu colonists' industrial base for its Expeditionary Force.]]

[[WMG: Unobtanium is naquadah]]

[[WMG: The Earth was trashed by [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} the post-Judgement Day War]]]]

[[WMG: Pandora is [[{{F/Foundation}} Gaia]].]]

[[WMG: Eywa is [[Literature/EndersGame Jane]].]]

[[WMG: ''Avatar'' takes place ~600 years before ''WesternAnimation/WallE'']]

[[WMG: The Company in Avatar is the same as The Company in ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'']]

[[WMG: The earth was destroyed due to the "irrational exuberance" following humanity's defeat of [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} SkyNet]].]]

[[WMG: Pandora/Eywa is the collective spirit(s) of spacefaring [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Entwives]] ]]

[[WMG: RDA grew to be incredibly powerful due to a possible merger with [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy Wayne Enterprises]] somewhere down the line.]]

[[WMG: Pandora was created by [[Literature/ArtemisFowl Foaly]].]]

[[WMG: Quaritch is a [[Series/DoctorWho Time Lord]]]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi will be invaded again...]]

[[WMG: Avatar is a prequel to TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}]]

[[WMG: Halo tiem]]

[[WMG: The Entire Movie is set in the Warhammer 40000 verse and the people running RDA are a Rogue Trader and his command staff]]

[[WMG: Pandora is really the world of Minecraft]]

[[WMG: Humans call it Unobtainium, {{Transformers}} call it Energon]]

[[WMG: The Truffula Trees in ''WesternAnimation/TheLorax'', form a planetwide consciousness, just like Eywa in ''Film/{{Avatar}}''.]]

[[WMG: Eywa is what happens when [[Franchise/DeadSpace Convergence]] happens properly.]]

[[WMG: Jake Sully is [[Franchise/AvatarTheLastAirbender the Avatar]].]]

[[WMG: Pandora was seeded with life by Earth a long time ago.]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are not native to Pandora.]]

[[WMG: Pandora is somehow a future Earth.]]

[[WMG: Pandora was created by a race of {{Precursors}}]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are descendants of a profoundly powerful genetic engineering empire. Eywa is the planet-wide AI who now runs the show.]]

[[WMG: Pandora and the other moons were created by [[Comicbook/{{Watchmen}} Dr. Manhattan]].]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are Eywa's DesignerBabies]]

[[WMG: All of the Na'vi are Avatars.]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are descendats of the first version avatars that escaped and went native]]

[[WMG: We are the na'vi. (We migrated to Pandora and well...)]]

[[WMG: Pandora was created by {{Precursors}} to [[EvilutionaryBiologist Conquer]] [[MeaningfulName The]] [[Franchise/{{Dune}} Universe]]]]

[[WMG: Pandora is a giant computer, and Eywa is the AI]]

[[WMG: The evolutionary lines of the Na'vi and every other species on the planet diverged very early on]]

[[WMG: Pandora isn't too fantastic to exist and it's not just [[SceneryPorn pretty]] and [[RuleOfCool cool]], it makes perfect evolutionary sense.]] Here's some food for thought: This is a planet whose natural geology produces room temp super-conductors in the planet's crust. -Super conductors are good at conducting information via electricity; the flora would very likely adapt to use that to their advantage

[[folder: The true nature of Eywa]]

[[WMG: The entire movie was [[EvilPlan planned out]] by the HiveMind, aka Eywa]]

[[WMG: Eywa is literally the Zerg Overmind.]]

[[WMG: Eywa is an EldritchAbomination in the form of a planet.]]

[[WMG: Eywa is serving as a central power grid to the Na'vi, much like the sun to us.]]

[[WMG: Eywa has been making Pandora into [[Franchise/{{Dune}} Arrakis]]]]

[[WMG: Had the humans won and destroyed the Tree of Souls, the result would not have been a PollutedWasteland.]]

[[WMG: Pandora/Eywa is sentient and could have removed the humans at anytime.]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi are misguided, [[GodIsEvil Eywa is evil.]]]]

[[WMG: Pandora is the Internet]]

[[WMG: Eywa is not sentient at all]]

[[WMG: Ewya Isn't Holding The Navi Back Technologically]]

[[WMG: The movie is actually a stealth parable in favor of cloud computing]]

[[WMG: Pandora is a next-stage development of the Hypersea phenomenon.]]

[[WMG: Eywa is an EldritchAbomination that eats the Na'Vis souls after death]]

[[WMG: What's gonna be in the (nigh-inevitable, given the critical acclaim) sequel?]]

[[WMG: If there is a sequel, and Eywa actually manifests, it will be in the form of Dr. Grace.]]

[[WMG: In the sequel, RDA will lose their rights to two other, recently-converted mining companies: [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 RED and BLU]].]]

[[WMG: Quaritch will return in one of the sequels]]

[[WMG: In the sequel...]]

[[WMG: Trudy isn't dead. She'll return leading her own clan of Na'Vi in the sequel, known simply as the 'Too badass to explode'.]]

[[WMG: Sequel]]

[[WMG: Somewhere in the sequels, Earth will have a [[ApocalypseHow planetary species extinction apocalypse]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XKeJtY63E Terminator 3-style ending]]]]

[[WMG: In the 3rd movie we see a different use for the avatar technology]]

[[WMG: Selfridge will undergo a {{Heel Face Turn}} in the sequel]]

[[WMG: There is unobtanium on other(uninhabited) worlds. The RDA will discover this and mine these instead.]]

[[WMG: There will be a ContrastingSequelAntagonist.]]

[[WMG: James Cameron will not direct the sequel]]

[[WMG: Dr. Grace will come back as a Na'Vi.]]

[[WMG: The Na'Vi have/will have "Bogeyman" tales of Skypeople who returned from the dead]]

[[WMG: The Valkyrie at the end of the movie isn't going anywhere. Its coming back.]]

[[WMG: If Eywa had been destroyed, then the Na'vi would have gotten a hole blown into their consciousness.]]

[[WMG: James Cameron actually has the technology to turn people into Avatars.]]

[[WMG: Pandora was once [[AfterTheEnd almost destroyed]] by immense volcanic activity.]]

[[WMG: Unobtanium was discovered by a Troper]]

[[WMG: Humans ''are'' still allowed on Pandora, so long as they are National Geographic types]]

[[WMG: It's all a computer simulation!]]

[[WMG: There is a Jarhead Clan somewhere on Pandora, albeit with a different spelling]]

** Meta-WMG: Jakesulley will father the Jarhead Clan. Either as an offshoot of Omaticaya, or through renaming.

[[WMG: ''Avatar'' is an allegory for VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft / [=MMORPGs=].]]

[[WMG: The death of Tom Sully, and Jake's being sent in his place was [[ThePlan planned out by]] Quaritch, that [[GoneHorriblyRight went horribly right]].]]

[[WMG: Quaritch (henceforth "Kernell Ba'Dass" since Na'Vi doesn't have the "ch" sound) will become a MemeticBadAss Bogeyman to all young Na'Vi]]

[[WMG: The "steak" Trudy mentions is actually a Pandoran fungus]]

[[WMG: Theories on the "horrible accident" that caused RDA to abandon mining the Hallelujah Mountains]]

[[WMG: Jake Sully [[OohMeAccentsSlipping slips between American and Australian accents]] because everyone is an [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Earthican]].]]

[[WMG: Neytiri's parents hoped that she and Jake would become mated.]]

[[WMG: The way Jake tamed the Toruk would be considered cheating.]]

[[WMG: America suffered a race war or similar disaster and only European-descended people survived with a few Latinos.]]

[[WMG: Earth ''isn't'' a CrapsackWorld]]

[[WMG: Humans "killed their mother" because she was a psychotic bitch.]]

[[WMG: Avatar is a thinly-veiled ShoutOut to TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}]]

[[WMG: The Na'Vi and Avatars will become future AncientAstronauts]]

[[WMG: Jake's betrayal of the human race is a side effect of Avatar usage.]]

[[WMG: Quaritch will become a MemeticBadAss and Bogeyman to all young military personnal.]]

[[WMG: Tom Sully's spirit is influencing Jake Sully]]

[[WMG: Ewya will eat/upload Quaritch's brain, resulting in him taking over the planetary mind.]]

[[WMG: The Toruk is the previous Toruk Macto.]]

[[WMG: Most Omaticaya know the weakness of the toruk. The requirements for a Toruk Macto are such:]]

[[WMG: In order to maintain good PR, the RDA will make Jake Sully a hero on Earth and blame everything on Quaritch.]]

[[WMG: One of Pandora's sister moons will be a [[ShiftingSandLand desert world.]]]]

[[WMG: Very few Na'vi bond with the Toruk because it's essentially ''useless'' for most things.]]

[[WMG: The Toruk bioluminesce (or maybe not), thanks to some sort of super-connection with Eywa.]]

[[WMG: Na'vi mating involves the mind-link.]]

[[WMG: Pandora consists of all of the creations of a ''VideoGame/{{Spore}}'' player's Sporepedia. The player's name? Eywa.]]

[[WMG: Film/{{Avatar}} is actually a [[GenderFlip gender-reversed]] story about Franchise/TheSmurfs set [[JustForFun/RecycledINSPACE in another world.]]]]

[[WMG: Humans do return to Pandora and pretty much destory the wildlife, resulting in the desert Pandora of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}''.]]

[[WMG: Earth isn't a crapsack world, [[{{Eagleland}} but America is]].]]

[[WMG: The world of Avatar diverged from us sometime during the 18th Century]]

[[WMG: The Quintessons built Pandora]]

[[WMG: Tom Sully was a Jesuit (Society of Jesus)]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi's population control is ''Film/ThreeHundred''-style infanticide]]

[[WMG: Avatars are sterile.]]

[[WMG: Pandora is a reverse Earth. Eg. Civilization]]

[[WMG: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Jake Sully a ManipulativeBastard?]]

[[WMG: Pandora's atmosphere is heavy in xenon.]]

[[WMG: Jake was in love with ''Eywa''.]]

[[WMG: It conjunction with the above theory that Earth is ruled by he UED, The Zerg are going to invaded Pandora.]]

[[WMG: RDA will come back...]]

[[WMG: The movie is actually a stealth TakeThat at extreme environmentalists.]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi and other animals on Pandora have a different eye sight to our own.]]

[[WMG: For the events of the first movie, the RDA will be nationalized]]

[[WMG: Avatar is VideoGame/DwarfFortress set [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace in space.]]]]

[[WMG: Sully was an unreliable narrator]]

[[WMG: The truth of the matter is... James Cameron is in fact, a Na'vi avatar unit sent from the Na'vi empire, who's planning on invading earth on 2012...]]

[[WMG: The Pandora biosphere will help restore life to Earth]]

[[WMG: Grace isn't dead, and Eywa will send her soul back into her avatar]]

[[WMG: Jake and Neytiri's relationship is the result of a BatmanGambit courtesy of Neytiri's parents]]

[[WMG: Quaritch knew Jake was going native.]]

[[WMG: Col. Miles Quaritch is either A) a Combat-Synthetic or B) a T-Series Terminator.]]

[[WMG: [[BackFromTheDead Quaritch will return]] [[ArtificialZombie as his corpse is artifically reanimated through cybernetics]].]]

[[WMG: The Hallelujah mountains will become the new home tree]]

[[WMG: The Na'vi aren't in anywhere near the close communion with nature that they think they are.]]

[[WMG: The final battle at the end of the film was a case of NiceJobFixingItVillain]]

[[WMG: ''Quaritch'' is an avatar.]]

[[WMG: The humans ''won't'' be going all-out with tanks and jets in the sequel.]]

[[WMG: The film popped to existence out of the blue as the forces leading to human extinction and the subsequent tortures of humanity afterwards were too great.]]

[[WMG: ''Avatar'' is symbolic of urban/suburban resentment.]]

[[WMG: Jake wasn't the first to discover the Turok's [[NoPeripheralVision inability to look up.]]]]

[[WMG: During his career in the Marines, Jake was involved in war crimes atrocities at some point.]]

[[WMG: Film/{{Avatar}} is actually a [[GenderFlip gender-reversed]] story about Franchise/TheSmurfs set [[RecycledINSPACE in another world.]]]]

[[WMG: Avatar is VideoGame/DwarfFortress set [[RecycledInSpace in space.]]]]

** The [[BadassMustache mustache...]] Especially the mustache.

Any Na'vi who hitch a ride will freak out, because the whole place is so [[CrossingTheDesert wierdly dead]] and [[DeathWorld deadly wierd]]. But they'll find a strange kinship with the native crab/ant/lizard-people, because some time ago, all of Polyphemus's moons were a single rock, and some sort of [[EarthShatteringKaboom cataclysm]] [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay split them into different moons.]] The stranded Proto-Na'vi [[ArtisticLicenseBiology evolved to their particular world]], and well... you can figure out the rest.

All credit goes to the troper who originally wrote it. This was deleted from the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation example on the film's page, but it's too interesting to ignore especially in light of the fact that Cameron's first idea for a tie-in videogame was an ''Enter Film/TheMatrix''-style MMORPG (there wasn't enough time or money). If I recall that troper's idea correctly, Jake is a newbie player to an MMORPG, let's call it "Pandora" (not to be confused with the movie ''Pandor'''um'''''). By good luck he lands in one of the best guilds (the Na'Vi), who are nice enough to guide him through the game and beef him up a bit so that [[EverythingTryingToKillYou everything doesn't kill him]]. While his video game avatar (har) is thriving, his RealLife body begins to suffer: his sleep schedule is shot, he's hardly eating, barely keeping track of his personal hygiene, and is [[TheTetrisEffect becoming obsessive to the point of reality blurring]]. Eventually it all comes crashing down on him. Obviously, the flaw in this interpretation is that the Na'Vi and Pandora are very real, and Jake's actions in that world have very real consequences.

Look at them. Minus the tail, braid, height, and skin, we're NotSoDifferent. We can look nearly the same.

* I spent the afternoon chewing over this topic (he'd been entertaining a similar theory, only less developed) and came to the following realization: if true, it makes Eywa morally ambiguous ''and'' more sympathetic at the same time. Think of her as a more limited [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Nicol Bolas]] from the Shards of Alara storyline: vastly intelligent and powerful, but suddenly mortal (Bolas had recently become mortal, Eywa had recently become aware of her mortality) and determined to preserve him/herself at all costs. As a result, she's willing to go to any lengths to preserve herself, including [[MindRape brainwashing]] the aliens who've uplinked with her into becoming her stooges and compelling the fauna to kill and die on her behalf. If the Tree of Souls was what both Quaritch and the Na'Vi thought it was, it was the center of a good deal of Eywa's mental activity; destroying it could well have lobotomized her, and she had no intention of letting that happen. This ultimately makes Eywa and the humans NotSoDifferent- each has their agenda, and are willing to pursue it to the bitter end, all for the sake of their planet. Ultimately, the conflict between her and Quaritch/RDA was inevitable due to fundamentally conflicting goals, and she won for the same reasons Bolas won: not simply being more powerful and more intelligent than the opposing player, but also by having the advantage of knowing the game was even being played.

Any Na'vi who hitch a ride will freak out, because the whole place is so [[CrossingTheDesert wierdly dead]] and [[DeathWorld deadly wierd]]. But they'll find a [[NotSoDifferent strange kinship]] with the native crab/ant/lizard-people, because some time ago, all of Polyphemus's moons were a single rock, and some sort of [[EarthShatteringKaboom cataclysm]] [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay split them into different moons.]] The stranded Proto-Na'vi [[ArtisticLicenseBiology evolved to their particular world]], and well... you can figure out the rest.

Pandora is a sci-fi version of our early Earth, so Earth in the movie could be the early Pandora. If that's true, maybe we're NotSoDifferent, after all. [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5720324/7/Lifestone This fanfic]] (Start from Jake) really supports the theory and even some of the fans have that idea.

** He's gonna be a 12-foot-tall [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Red XIII]]?! [[note]]I know he's not a dog but the Na'Vi aren't cats, they're monkeys/lemurs and despite what you seen in ''Disney/TheLionKing'' lions ''hate'' monkeys.[[/note]]

* It seems quite obvious - human empire, giant faceless corporation only in it for the profit, giant stompy robot exo-suits, same director, same actor, explicit marines who conduct actions in much the same style - it seems likely that Avatar is set in a different time period, however - probably later on, would be my guess - the powerloader is after all, noticeably less sophisticated than the AMP suits.

*** In fact, the predators can mostly breath an earth atmosphere but need gas supplements: perhaps the same supplements humans need to take out of the Pandoran atmosphere. The only reason I wouldn't be too sure the Yaudja are natives of Pandora is that they're built like Heavyworlders. Then again, they may have all moved off planet and just you know they crank the gravity in their ships for a constant workout. And the Yaudja do have those dreadlocks, has anyone ever actually checked to see if they don't have Eywa uplinks? PLUS they naturally see in the infrared, like most other Pandoran species. And the Yaudja, in their own deadly way, actually do seem to respect nature through their hunting laws. They may have left Eywa, but her legacy is imprinted in their culture.

** I don't know, but it aint Pandora. No biological similarities to anything we've seen. Assuming they evolved naturally we know their planet has abundant large animals to infect since their reproduction is limited by their hosts, and that there are things that are badass enough to try to eat them since they have the eats-anything acidic blood. Maybe the planet the Cloverfield beast was from?

** My PhD thesis in comparative xeno-biology is that the xenomorphs evolved on the same planet as the Grays from the X-Files. The two species have parasitic reproduction cycles that burst from your chest. The immature form of the Grays is very similar to the mature Alien. The Aliens acid blood could have evolved as a defense mechanism against possession by the black oil. Even if a facehugger implants a chestburster, when the chest burster bursts out the Gray would be killed, but the 'blood' would be the black oil which would just go infect some other organism, hence the Grays, as a species, are proof against being extincted by the Aliens.

*** The Na'vi are three-meter-tall, extremely agile beings that can put a stick through an armored windshield or metal plane. so the Distric 9 aliens seem a lot shorter to them than to humans. Unless it was a long-term war with generations to prepare, if the District 9 aliens were to lose their tech, it would be all down to whether a Christopher-type [[Headscratchers/{{District9}} poleepkwa]] would be able to outthink and out-manouever the Na'vi. I think he/it/they could in an even-numbers fight of just Christophers versus just Na'vi warriors, but between a representative sample of each population (not including children) would likely go to the Na'vi. And it makes [[HypocriticalHumor no sense whatsoever]] to send them into a long-term war with each other in a way that prevents the District 9 aliens from using their tech, since the terrain advantage would give the war over to either the Na'vi (on Pandora) or the District 9 aliens (practically anywhere else) within the first couple of serious battles, assuming a [[strike: [[ArbitrarySkepticism realistic]]]] reasonable spaceship-free scenario.

*** That Idea is not at all helped by the fact that Aliens and Terminator are both also from Creator/JamesCameron. I don't know about Predator, but it gets crossovered with the other two Cameron films, so why not.
* You know what, [[ActorAllusion Grace Augustine's similarity to Ellen Ripley]] is pretty easy to explain. [[InTheBlood Grace is closely related to Ripley]] -- her sister, cousin or niece.
** Ripley had a daughter, so this is entirely feasible.
*** Original troper here. I actually checked Wiki/TheOtherWiki's entries for ''Aliens'' and Ellen Ripley. It won't be the daughter, since the names and dates (Amanda Ripley [=McClaren=], 2113-2195; ''Avatar'''s in 2154) don't fit, but other relatives should be fair game here.

** Pandora is definitely Planet. I don't care how pretty it all is, the trees form a possibly-sentient neural network, and those tendrils from the roots at the Tree of Souls are absolutely definitely goddamn MIND WORMS. But they never got to Transcendence; it's too soon, for a start. A colony ship from Earth reached Planet about a century ago, just as the ecosystem on Earth went into a collapse. The last signals from the ship indicated the death of the captain and anarchy among the crew. The surviving colonists split into their separate factions and settled the surface of Planet, building up a small sustainable colony and introducing Earth biodiversity to the ecosystem previously based entirely around fungus. They were engulfed by the xenofungus growth phase long before they could achieve the Ascent to Transcendence, but in its short lifespan the godlike Planetmind was able to assimilate the more diverse Earth lifeforms it found within the ruins of the Xenoempathy Dome at Gaia's Landing and adapt them to its toxic atmosphere, its fungal ecology and its planetary neural network. It made the best of what it found, it did what it could without the guidance of the humans' knowledge that the Voice of Planet project might have given it. Post growth-dream, Planet looks very different; hugely enlarged Earthlike trees form the nodes of the neural network, with fungus throughout their structure. Animal life has also been remodelled into forms far more sophisticated than the primitive mindworm boils and locust swarms of Planet's previous cycle, and the humans themselves have been... altered. All can now link into the planetary neural nets at the great tree nodes, and into each other. Planet, now Pandora, is working towards using the formerly human Na'vi to achieve true sentience and avoid the dieback of the growth cycle next time around. Meanwhile, Earth civilisation has rebuilt itself, written off its last expedition as lost in space, and launched more ships to scout the planet they found...

* Oh, and watching the battle at the end, where the animals wipe out all that glorious hardware? Now I know how those filthy worms destroyed all the University of Planet's recon rovers, there at the end after the Planetbuster wars, when the factions lay in ruins and the fungal towers were sprouting everywhere... That species will be exterminated. I tell you. EXTERMINATED.

*** The planet Earth IS Earth and its just before the first galactic empire starts to get underway. The Na'avi help to cement in the human mind the fact that Aliens cannot be trusted and that they will not respond to covert tactics, so instead they turn their entire Earth into a warfactory, go back to Pandora and test their first Virus bomb on the planet, leading to the death of every single living thing on the world before stip mining it bare. From there on, the [[TheEmpire Imperium ]] begins to grow. Personally? [[MoralEventHorizon I think I'm going to ]][[RootingForTheEmpire side with the virus bombers ]]

Come on, they're both "superconductive" elements that are essential for super technology!
My guess is that the RDA is working without knowing of the Stargate program (still a secret after all these years, perhaps due to an ongoing war with another race), and that's why they call it Unobtanium and don't realize that the real FTL travel will be via stargates.

* And the RDA is actually named after Richard Dean Anderson.
** FFFfffffffffffff...This is now my personal canon.

[[WMG: Pandora is [[{{Literature/Foundation}} Gaia]].]]

Another varient on the Precursors theme, my favorite is that the biosphere of Pandora was a designed from the ground up as a deathworld by aliens unknown to perfect their tinkertoy genetics supersoldier designs. This would explain improbable features of the planets biology such as the ubiquitous interspecies-compatible usb ports, multispectral eyes, carbon nanotube bone structures, and the overall freakish optimization of the designs of all lifeforms on the planet. These fancy tricks and lack of evolutionary false starts, which must be otherwise handwaved as intelligent design by Eywa, instead become plot points by fridge brilliance as evidence of Pandora's true past. [[SarcasmMode Naturally]] some of the sequel will be devoted to this discovery, and the profound implications, which leads too: why Pandora was established where it is.
Why build your homegrown biological optimizer on a moon rich in unobtainium in easy reach of of another developing sentient species? Unobtainium is apparently a critical component in stardrives, and it's abundance would greatly aid the Navi in bursting unexpectedly onto the galactic scene. As far as the proximity to humans, the Na'vi have been provided a world in which they do not really have any need to develop advanced technology, and will instead develop a proud warrior race mentality with crazy survival skills. All well and good, but if you plan on them conquering the galaxy they'll still need to figure out how to make spaceships. That's where us monkeys come in. Without our own planetary brain to guide us we go through a more standard development for a species, develop powerful technology with all the destructive industrialization that entails...and then bump into the Na'vi, who steal it from us without needing to do all the nasty research themselves. It's kind of the planetary equivilent of using the [[MoralEventHorizon unreplicable]] [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate medical data]] produced by the holocaust.
All in all a fairly good plot if you have tremendous faith in the power of biological and social evolution: given a particular starting point, events will unfold naturally such that the Na'vi, lead by their planetary mind, will suddenly be in a position to become very, VERY powerful. [[{{Literature/Foundation}} Psychohistory for fun and profit!]]
** Pandora/Eywa could also be an EldritchAbomination cleverly disguised as a moon orbiting Blue Jupiter . Creating a lethal and advanced ecosystem on her surface that was directly linked to her, Eywa could have evrything to uncossiously do her evrey command. Eywa's real unspeakable form lies deep in the roots of the Tree of Souls and the humans and Na'vi are mere puppets to her master plan.

I've got a couple of insane suggestions:
* ''Dying Earth''. In a couple of years, Earth's resources are completely depleted and humans are faced with a need to relocate somewhere... fast. They invade Pandora once again, with a HUGE force, but this time it's no mere profiteering -- it's their last and desperate attempt to escape extinction. Jake is going to have some very uneasy choices -- if he has any humanity left in him by the point.
** My money's on this one.
** If this happens, I bet ten bucks that any humans that survive will all be transferred into Na'Vi or Avatar bodies.
*** Dying Earth is likely (although more likely in Avatar 3), all humans becoming Na'vi? Very unlikely.

*** See Clifford D. Simak's ''The City'' series. Well, humans there didn't all move to Jupiter because the Earth was dying -- quite the contrary, Earth is still thriving, and they simply left it to their successor species -- a genetically engineered sentient ''dogs''. No, people moved to Jup because they got ''bored'' being ''people'' -- and jupiterian natives were [[MarySue so much cooler]], and being one was so much ''fun'', that hardly anybody could resist.

* Think Terminator 3. Somebody sabotages a returning ISV, overloads, crashes into the moon, causes DeathFromAbove and...extermination. [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6074313/30/Oversway Read this fanfic chapter.]]

*** I challenge you to read the chapter with the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upHOVfgYG_A T3 ending music playing]]. If this is not at least a partial TearJerker for you, you are a ''soulless, misanthropic, genocidal, suicidal, extremely depressed na'vi.''
*** Waitaminnit. The humans killed a few hundred Na'vi. Eywa retaliates by ''wiping out all life on Earth.'' And this is even after Earth stops sending ships to Pandora. DisproportionateRetribution much? The real kicker? Eywa has decided that it's time to reach for the stars. That's right, the Na'vi are going to take this show on the road! Anybody get the feeling that any alien culture they come across is going to get "an offer they can't refuse?" If this isn't proof that Eywa is actually a time-shifted [[VideoGame/SystemShock Shodan]], I don't know what is.
*** (WMG Author): For reference, the main character of the series was driven to Insanity early in the fanfic. The ending or even the character in the story can give off a strong sense of instability. What ''[[KickTheDog kicked]]'' me about the ending was that ''the Na'vi were happy about that'' and in the [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6196051/1/Last_of_the_Uniltiranyu epilogue]], they become ''more technological than us''. The idea of na'vi astronauts would make sense in that fanfic, but otherwise, no. I do not see any purpose of it.
*** Two words: Palulukan Sensei. RAEG does not even begin to describe my reaction.
*** As a side note, anyone find it ironic that the Na'vi develop spaceships and computers, albeit organic-based in construction? And through the Avatars intermingling with the Na'vi population, the genepool of Pandora's dominant species now contains human DNA? As much as the main character wanted to wipe out the tawtute to protect Pandora, the tawtute end up forever influencing and altering Na'vi culture from the moment the two species first met. I mean, until the humans cruised by in their ISVs, the Na'vi had no concern about the stars beyond "As long as they stay lit, we're cool." I suspect this may have been a gambit on Gaia's part to spread her existence beyond Earth by infiltrating Eywa's infrastructure, piece by piece, until the main character joins her ancestors and completes the process, overwriting Eywa's conscience and leaving Gaia in charge of a new world with amazing terraforming capabilities...one with interstellar capabilities. And it all started with Quaritch as her pawn...
*** Can I just say how thoroughly disgusting that fanfic is? Seriously, if Avatar made you think that the extinction of humanity and every other organism on Earth was a '''good thing''', see a therapist. Fast.

** 7 feet tall he'd still be rather tiny compared to the Na'vi - 9-10 feet tall on average.
** By my estimate, that's about as tall as a human can get before it causes health problems that would've gotten him rejected from the Marines in the first place (the world's tallest woman was, at 8' or 9', also the world's tallest disabled person because her body was so heavy she could barely move without causing severe strain on her heart). It's also an echo to ''Literature/TheHobbit'': Bilbo's uncle was so tall (for a Hobbit) that he rode a horse into battle; likewise Bogyman!Quaritch was so tall (comparatively) he could've ridden the Na'Vi's mounts.
*** Which he did, just to see if it was possible to ride one without a bond (it's possible, but only for badasses).

Strength+ Experience+ Stupidity. You've got to be strong enough to hold on long enough to bond with it, experienced enough to jump on its back from fifteen feet up (minimum, at full stealth-dive speed) ''and'' beat its mind into submission, and stupid enough to try (since even an incredibly dedesperate Na'vi wouldn't bother, unless they were experienced enough to have lost most of the stupidity and probably some of the strength). The young Na'vi who try get killed because they lack the experience, and sometimes the strength. The older Na'vi are wise enough not to try in the first place. I fully expected there to be a sort of "I left out one thing for the purposes of keeping my ancestor's legend... legendary, where Neytiri says to Jake, "My grandfather was the strongest, most skilled, bravest of his generation... But he was also the stupidest." Or even some sort of "your people have two words for 'broken in the head'; one is 'stupid', the other is 'brave'" speech, if they wanted to play up the cultural differences even more.

* True on all fronts, but the fatality rate may not be as high as you think, mostly due to the general 'sturdiness' of the Na'vi. Jake obviously screws up his first leaf-jump, but survives. I'm certain a human taking the same fall would suffer at least a broken rib (but anyone falling off during Iknimaya is dead guaranteed). My theory on their birth control is simply they don't consummate that often. Most relationships you see in Avatar are generally businesslike (ie. Eytukan + Mo'at, or Mo'at just has the Na'vi version of menopause), and there's an obvious lack of privacy for you to do your thing. You're surrounded by various other clan members all day and all night, so Jake's encounter with Neytiri at the Tree of Voices may be his last one for quite a while.

* Can I hug you?
** FOrget asking permission *Uberglomps original poster.*
** ''oh my god yes''.

If the idea that Avatar takes place in either the Aliens or Terminator universe, it would be safe to assume that Quaritch is an android. Think about it: A seemingly "normal human" who is fireproof, able to survive without oxygen, has deadeye aim, and survived getting attacked by one of those black panther things on his first day on Pandora! The reason why he wears an (empty) oxygen tank at all is because he is programed to act as human as needed. Please feel free to add your own opinions or spot holes in my argument.

After the humans were sent away the Omaticaya have no where to live because their home tree was destroyed so they cut one of the mountains free from everything else and move on to that. They dig partway into it (but no too much [[RocksFallEveryoneDies in case they remove some Unobtanium]]) and move it around my connecting some Banshees to it with rope. Because the mountain is also where the Banshee live it becomes an AirborneAircraftCarrier and they can attack the ground below by having the archers fire arrows from the bottom of it turning the whole thing into a FloatingContinent.

* I spent the afternoon chewing over this topic (he'd been entertaining a similar theory, only less developed) and came to the following realization: if true, it makes Eywa morally ambiguous ''and'' more sympathetic at the same time. Think of her as a more limited [[MagicTheGathering Nicol Bolas]] from the Shards of Alara storyline: vastly intelligent and powerful, but suddenly mortal (Bolas had recently become mortal, Eywa had recently become aware of her mortality) and determined to preserve him/herself at all costs. As a result, she's willing to go to any lengths to preserve herself, including [[MindRape brainwashing]] the aliens who've uplinked with her into becoming her stooges and compelling the fauna to kill and die on her behalf. If the Tree of Souls was what both Quaritch and the Na'Vi thought it was, it was the center of a good deal of Eywa's mental activity; destroying it could well have lobotomized her, and she had no intention of letting that happen. This ultimately makes Eywa and the humans NotSoDifferent- each has their agenda, and are willing to pursue it to the bitter end, all for the sake of their planet. Ultimately, the conflict between her and Quaritch/RDA was inevitable due to fundamentally conflicting goals, and she won for the same reasons Bolas won: not simply being more powerful and more intelligent than the opposing player, but also by having the advantage of knowing the game was even being played.