History WMG / AdventureTimeFinnAndJake

[[WMG:Finn will pull a FaceHeelTurn and go on a killing spree, leading to many a CrowningMomentofAwesomeness.]]

* AdventureTime is a perpendicular universe to Futurama. Magic/mystical elements are known to exist in Futurama(Scruffy is a zombie), and [[ForWantOfANail the nail]] is that Mildred Fry never existed, thus preventing both Fry's existence and a paradox from cancelling the MyOwnGrandpa scenario. For all we know [[ETGaveUsWiFi Bender's ass gave us wi-fi]], so more research into magic began. Said magic, of course, led to the Mushroom War. Magic is still present; Applied Cryonics were based off the freezing powers of the Ice Crown, and Simon could've been the one who created it in the first place. The head jars are Magitek

It's all but confirmed that the dinosaur Gunther is Finn's reincarnation. Finn's first life was a Catalyst Comet, so it must have landed before "Evergreen." This comet was none other than the comet which introduced magic to prehistoric Earth, resulting in the titular Evergreen and his kin.

* [[spoiler:So far, it's Jossed by Finn/Princess Bubblegum]]

This is also a bit about the broader world of AT as a whole, but I didn't see a category for that, and the most important part of the theory is Finn, so work with me here. The Mushroom War happened some centuries after Korra's time, and it destroyed spiritual magic as we know it from that world (including bending) and 'scattered' it into the more bizarre, Harry-Potter-on-crack kind of magic we see in Adventure Time. We've seen that Adventure Time has a spirit world: the misshapen, monstrous spirits we see there are the last, damaged vestiges of the beautiful, intelligent, majestic creatures from the Avatar-verse. Finn is the latest reincarnation of the Avatar; no bending, but Raava is alive and well inside of him, and has allowed him to unknowingly activate the Avatar State several times, granting him the strength to hold onto Martin's ship in Escape From the Citadel, for instance. When Finn fought off the Lich's mind control, it actually had nothing to do with the sweater: Raava used the power of Finn's like-a-lot for PB to shield him from the fire and mind control with spiritual energy, and then activated the Avatar State for the first time, leading to him tearing the Lich's skull apart. We can't see his eyes light up in the Avatar State because they are, as Pen has stated, mutated to be little black dots. Finn's recent... oddities... such as all the Astral Projection and such are the result of Raava gaining more strength and trying to help Finn: she can't contact him directly because he isn't a very spiritual person, and has no one to teach him to be. Finn's animal guide ''could'' be Jake... but I think it's more likely the astral-butterfly, as it guides him on the closest things he has to spiritual journeys, and actually fits a nice AnimalMotif for Finn: his whole journey has been about metamorphosis, and change making him stronger. Finn's native element is either Water, because of the aforementioned change motif, or Fire, because of his boundless energy and enthusiasm. In addition, Finn's view of his past lives (A comet, a... thing, etc.) was actually a poor misenterpretation of his actual past lives (i.e. the Avatars) due to, again, not much spiritual connection. He connected to Shoko because she was the most flawed Avatar, being a thief instead of a hero, and she was so desperate to find redemption that she was able to break through those barriers to appear to Finn, not only to fix her own mistakes with amulet, but also in a (sadly failed) attempt to get Finn to discover his legacy.

This is also a bit about the broader world of AT as a whole, but I didn't see a category for that, and the most important part of the theory is Finn, so work with me here. The Mushroom War happened some centuries after Korra's time, and it destroyed spiritual magic as we know it from that world (including bending) and 'scattered' it into the more bizarre, Harry-Potter-on-crack kind of magic we see in Adventure Time. We've seen that Adventure Time has a spirit world: the misshapen, monstrous spirits we see there are the last, damaged vestiges of the beautiful, intelligent, majestic creatures from the Avatar-verse. Finn is the latest reincarnation of the Avatar; no bending, but Raava is alive and well inside of him, and has allowed him to unknowingly activate the Avatar State several times, granting him the strength to hold onto Martin's ship in Escape From the Citadel, for instance. When Finn fought off the Lich's mind control, it actually had nothing to do with the sweater: Raava used the power of Finn's like-a-lot for PB to shield him from the fire and mind control with spiritual energy, and then activated the Avatar State for the first time, leading to him tearing the Lich's skull apart. Finn's recent... oddities... such as all the Astral Projection and such are the result of Raava gaining more strength and trying to help Finn: she can't contact him directly because he isn't a very spiritual person, and has no one to teach him to be. Finn's animal guide ''could'' be Jake... but I think it's more likely the astral-butterfly, as it guides him on the closest things he has to spiritual journeys, and actually fits a nice AnimalMotif for Finn: his whole journey has been about metamorphosis, and change making him stronger. Finn's native element is either Water, because of the aforementioned change motif, or Fire, because of his boundless energy and enthusiasm. In addition, Finn's view of his past lives (A comet, a... thing, etc.) was actually a poor misenterpretation of his actual past lives (i.e. the Avatars) due to, again, not much spiritual connection. He connected to Shoko because she was the most flawed Avatar, being a thief instead of a hero, and she was so desperate to find redemption that she was able to break through those barriers to appear to Finn, not only to fix her own mistakes with amulet, but also in a (sadly failed) attempt to get Finn to discover his legacy.

This is also a bit about the broader world of AT as a whole, but I didn't see a category for that, and the most important part of the theory is Finn, so work with me here. The Mushroom War happened some centuries after Korra's time, and it destroyed spiritual magic as we know it from that world (including bending) and 'scattered' it into the more bizarre, Harry-Potter-on-crack kind of magic we see in Adventure Time. We've seen that Adventure Time has a spirit world: the misshapen, monstrous spirits we see there are the last, damaged vestiges of the beautiful, intelligent, majestic creatures from the Avatar-verse. Finn is the latest reincarnation of the Avatar; no bending, but Raava is alive and well inside of him, and has allowed him to unknowingly activate the Avatar State several times, granting him the strength to hold onto Martin's ship in Escape From the Citadel, for instance. When Finn fought off the Lich's mind control, it actually had nothing to do with the sweater: Raava used the power of Finn's like-a-lot for PB to shield him from the fire and mind control with spiritual energy, and then activated the Avatar State for the first time, leading to him tearing the Lich's skull apart. Finn's recent... oddities... such as all the Astral Projection and such are the result of Raava gaining more strength and trying to help Finn: she can't contact him directly because he isn't a very spiritual person, and has no one to teach him to be. Finn's animal guide ''could'' be Jake... but I think it's more likely the astral-butterfly, as it guides him on the closest things he has to spiritual journeys, and actually fits a nice AnimalMotif for Finn: his whole journey has been about metamorphosis, and change making him stronger. Finn's native element is either Water, because of the aforementioned change motif, or Fire, because of his boundless energy and enthusiasm.

[[WMG: Finn and Marceline will become an OfficialCouple the moment Finn turns 18.]]

One episode showed that one ofFinn's past lives was a comet, like the comet in Evergreen which is hinted to be related to the Lich in some way. It would explain how Finn, a kid, was able to escape and defeat the Lich on multiple occasions when Billy couldn't and Death is scared of him.

[[WMG: Finn will eventually obtain a [[SecondLove Third Love]], and she will be human.]]

For one thing, the title would stay the same. Finn would still have a family member with him, and at the same time the series would explore a different dynamic considering Jake Jr.'s personality.

[[WMG: If Jake was ever {{Killed Off For Real}}, or was otherwise unable to accompany Finn for a bunch of episodes (if not the rest of the series), then Jake Jr. would take his place as Finn's cohort]]

Dogs don't live as long as humans, so Finn probably had to deal with a few deaths at a very young age. (We know for sure that Joshua and Margaret were dead before he was 12 at the show's start) As such, Finn learned to deal with tragedies a lot quicker than most people.

When this is revealed, Finn and FP realize what has happened. The thing they had was destroyed by outside forces conspiring to conquer Ooo. They call off their petty feud, reconcile, and begin a massive sword fight with PB, who eventually cuts off Finn's right arm. Before the final blow is struck, a massive army made up entirely of humans approaches the Candy Kingdom. Leading the charge is none other than Fionna herself, and the army is comprised of infantry, tanks, mobile rocket launchers, jets, helicopters, bombers, and even EVAs (yes, they're being piloted by Shinji, Asuka, and Rei, none of whom are messed up anymore). The rescue mission leaves every Candy Person except Princess Bubblegum and a few male clones dead. Alot more awesomeness occurs after that, but the edit lock just expired, so I gotta amscray.

* Considering that he was raised by Jake's parents, who are dogs, I suspect he's well aware of being adopted.

* It's called being HappilyAdopted, duh.

[[WMG:Jake is female.]]
In one episode, he refers to his and Finn's bond as "a mother-daughter thing." Finn gave Jake that name, because his name in his own language is difficult for a normal human to pronounce. However, part of the culture barrier led to him getting a name of the wrong gender. He also believes Finn to be a girl (hence mother-''daughter''), because in the initial conversation, he said something that amounted to, "I'm the same gender as you are."
** Then why is [[GenderFlip Cake]] a girl?
*** Very tomboyish male cat.
**** ...Don't you mean an effeminate male cat?
** Pretty much jossed now, as Lady Rainicorn just had his pups.

[[WMG: Finn is missing an eye.]]
In [[http://i.cartoonnetwork.com/v5cache/CARTOON/site/Images/i3/at_wallpaper2_1680x1050_2.jpg this]] closeup in "The Enchiridion!" when Finn enters the Final Boss's 'Mind Zone', Finn seems to have heterochromatic eyes, one blue and one green. This was probably just a stylistic decision, but in the next episode, Finn has a glass eye collection while Jake has an eyepatch collection. Maybe Finn decided eyepatches weren't cool (for the record, they totally are) and gave his collection to Jake when he switched over to glass eyes. Also, in various episodes, Finn appears to have at least one glass eye in his backpack. In "Slow Love" Finn is seen using a pair of binoculars with only one eye. [[http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Slow_Love?file=S2E6_SS_6.png this]]
* Jossed. He's shown having both eyes in POV in the episode it's revealed he's color blind.

[[WMG: Finn will lose an arm fighting with the Flame King.]]
We've seen a future Finn vision, Farmworld!Finn and Pillow!Finn all have artificial arms, [[FridgeHorror so Finn will probably lose an arm.]] Losing an arm is usually a gruesome procedure, and it's hard for [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar even the writers of this show]] to get away with this. With Flame King, you have the ability to remove Finn's arm bloodlessly-probably with a flame sword(think [[Franchise/StarWars lightsabres]]). Also, Flame King and Finn would have a personal reason to fight each other(Flame Princess). Finally, it would get them to avert any angst that comes from losing an arm with Finn being a HandicappedBadass and getting a cool robot arm.
* {{Jossed}}.

[[WMG: The Lich is Finn's biological father.]]
* {{Jossed}} as of Season 6.

[[WMG: "King Worm" is a direct sequel to "Evicted!"]]
As in, it takes place during season 1. Everything Finn dreams is a future dream (which, given that he sees his Farmworld counterpart in it, isn't too much of a stretch).
* Pretty well Jossed by the fact that everything that's changed since season one (Finn's sword, his relationships, everyone's character development) is still there after the episode ends. If everything since "Evicted" had been a dream, it all would have snapped back.

[[WMG: Going off the above theory, Finn will cut off his arm to keep the sword from returning.]]
{{Jossed}}.

* Princess Bubblegum tried to continue this with Lemonhope as an EvokedTrope. Didn't quite work.

[[WMG: Finn has abandonment issues]]
So we all saw Finn as baby boom-boom, right? All alone in the forest and stuff. Sure, he's upset over that, but there's more to it. In The Jiggler, Finn seemed to [[BerserkButton go berserk]] when the mom didn't want the kid back, screaming 'MOMS ARE SUPPOSED TO LOVE BABIES'. Why? He empathized with Jiggler, and was trying to make it so the baby wouldn't have to be alone in the forest and fall over onto its own boom boom, as he did.
* When I watched it, it seemed more like he was saying "Mom's supposed to love baby!", which is evidence of psychological regression, alluding to deep seated issues. Also, it is ambiguous as to whether the singular 'Mom' and 'Baby' refer to the Jiggler and its mother, or Finn and his missing mother.
** After watching that, I'd be more surprised if he ''didn't'' have abandonment issues.
Here's the episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i85hjEcDbic&feature=related judge for your selves, to me it clearly sounds like "Momma's supposed to love baby"
** [[IKnewIt Explicitly stated now:]] "WHYDIDYOUABANDONMEINTHEFORESTWHENIWASALITTLEBABY?"

* AdventureTime is a perpendicular universe to Futurama. Magic/mystical elements are known to exist in Futurama(Scruffy is a zombie), and [[ForWantOfANail the nail]] is that Mildred Fry never existed, thus preventing both Fry's existence and a paradox from cancelling the MyOwnGrandpa scenario. For all we know [[E.T.GaveUsWi-Fi Bender's ass gave us wi-fi]], so more research into magic began. Said magic, of course, led to the Mushroom War. Magic is still present; Applied Cryonics were based off the freezing powers of the Ice Crown, and Simon could've been the one who created it in the first place. The head jars are Magitek

[[WMG: Finn's real parents are either long-dead or in hiding]]
* It is revealed in the 'Adventure Time Encyclopaedia' that Finn was abandoned by his parents in the forest, only to be found and adopted by Jake's parents. If we consider this as canon with the series, then there must be a reason why he was abandoned. Maybe they were on the run from cirtain death (maybe a hungry Rainicorn) and were forced to abandon him to save him. They were either killed or went into hiding, unable to return for their son.
*Jossed, latest episode shows Fin's dad, part of the reveal.

You can call someone who raised you and is a male a father figure, or Finn may end up being adopted and he not know it.

[[WMG: Finn's new "Grass Sword" will be what ends up making him lose his arm in some way.]]

The sword has extreme precision and incredible cutting ability, and is kept wrapped around his right arm when not in use (Exactly the arm he'll probably lose as foreshadowed so far). Plus, the sword is also cursed to always come back to Finn, and even if he gets rid of it, he always finds himself holding it again later. As one of the possible ways he could lose that arm because of the sword... Maybe sometime in the future that WILL end up acting like an actual curse due to some other odd reason, and combined with the Grass Sword's precision...?
* Okay, and now the grass sword has been shown acting weirdly in Billy's Bucket List, seemingly out of Finn's control. Ooooh shit...