History VillainHasAPoint / WesternAnimation

* ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'': Francis Grey's complaint about his 17 year sentence for stealing a small item (his sentence was bumped up due a series of accidents during his escape that caused a boatload of property damage):
-->'''Francis''': I took a ''watch''! Everything else was just an accident.

* Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse:
** ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'':
*** "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE17LockUp Lock-Up]]" points out that Arkham is a CardboardPrison with a revolving door, and the villains keep coming back. This doesn't justify his excessive punishments (the fact that Scarecrow breaks out of Arkham just to get away from him implies his methods are just making things ''worse''), but it's telling that, when he [[CanonImmigrant shows up in the comics]], Batman ''does'' briefly team up with him.
*** "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE41JokersWild Joker's Wild]]" inverts this when Batman, caught in one of the Joker's explosive {{death trap}}s with which he also plans to level a casino, manages to talk his way out by pointing out to the Joker that he's playing into the casino owner's hands, since the guy is ''trying'' to get the casino destroyed as part of an [[InsuranceFraud insurance scam]]. Much as it infuriates him, Joker realizes Batman is right, and he decides to abandon his death trap to go settle accounts with the casino owner instead.
---->'''Joker''': I ''hate'' it when you make sense!
** ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'': In "[[Recap/BatmanBeyondS2E14Eyewitness Eyewitness]]", [[MasterOfIllusion Spellbinder]] tricks Barbara Gordon into thinking Batman killed Mad Stan. When Spellbinder's finally caught and exposed, [[EvilGloating his taunt to her]] [[FlawExploitation proves his point of her biased opinion and how she's ready to believe the worst in Terry]]. [[MoreThanMindControl His trick just finally pulled the trigger for it]]. Barbara completely concludes with Spellbinder's point, genuinely apologizing to Batman and doing what she can to make up for him. For the rest of the series, she remains a supporting ally towards him.
** It's quite hard to fault Agent Bennet's fears and animosity for the titular synthoid from ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject'', even in spite of all the signs that the thing developing a conscience is genuine. His fears that its "conscience" is merely a ManchurianAgent ploy programmed into it by terrorists or just a malfunction is valid, and notably the synthoid used lethal force against Bennet's men in its ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' [[PoorlyDisguisedPilot introductory episode]] until Max convinced it not to, proving it is indeed willing and able to hurt people to get what it wants.
** ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'':
*** Although they shot themselves in the foot multiple times by being more of a threat to the world than the Justice League, it's acknowledged even InUniverse that Project Cadmus has a point about the scary potential of what the Justice League could do if they wanted (especially since they were visited by an AlternateUniverse League, the Justice Lords, who had conquered their world and come to do the same to this one), especially given some of the questionable decisions that the Justice League has made. Most notably, installing [[KillSat a giant laser in their orbital base and aiming it at the planet]] without asking for anyone's permission or even telling them about it.
---->'''Martian Manhunter:''' We must also consider the possibility that Cadmus is right to be afraid of us...\\
'''Supergirl:''' ''[outraged]'' WHAT?!\\
'''Martian Manhunter:''' ...and there is strong evidence of Cadmus having legitimate connections to the government.\\
'''Superman:''' Maybe, to some rogue black ops group! The real government wouldn't get involved in anything like this!\\
'''Green Arrow:''' Hey, I'm the only guy in the room who doesn't have superpowers, and let me tell you: you guys scare me. What if you do decide to go down there, taking care of whoever you think is guilty? Who could stop you? Me?\\
'''Supergirl:''' So you want the government to have a bunch of superhuman weapons just to keep us in check?!\\
'''Green Arrow:''' No... I don't know... Yeah.\\
''[Superman and Supergirl recoil in shock]''\\
'''Green Arrow:''' Look, I'm an old lefty. The government must do for people what people can't do for themselves. The people sure can't protect themselves from the likes of us.
*** The Justice Lord Batman pulled one of these on the League one in a scene that even the ''writers'' were unable to directly respond to.
---->'''League!Batman:''' You grabbed power!\\
'''Lord!Batman:''' And with that power, we've made a world where no eight year old boy will EVER lose his parents, ''because of some punk with a gun''.
*** Subverted later on when League!Batman ''does'' gain a retort to this, after he watches a man [[AllCrimesAreEqual get taken away by armed policemen]] just because he correctly pointed out his bill was wrong and refused to pay. League!Batman snidely informs Lord!Batman their parents would just ''love'' this place. Yeah, the Justice Lords have created a world where it's less likely for another kid to have his parents killed by a random mugger. Instead of worrying about that, he can worry about watching his parents get dragged away to life in prison for doing something as harmless as argue against being overly charged for their meal.
*** In fact, the Justice Lords themselves only took over the world because America had elected ''Lex freaking Luthor'' as President and allowed him to almost cause a nuclear war. You can kind of sympathize with their viewpoint that people that dumb shouldn't be allowed to rule themselves.
*** The Luthor from the Justice Lords' universe had a point in his BreakingSpeech to Superman, saying that it wasn't the law [[ThouShaltNotKill that kept Superman from killing him]]. Superman liked the attention he got from being a hero. Superman admitted he was right, [[GoneHorriblyRight but seeing where that path led, he was done]], and killed Luthor.
*** Justice Lord Superman had a point when he [[WhatTheHellHero berates Superman for letting Luthor out of prison to stop them]]. Luthor [[IGaveMyWord doesn't turn on the Justice League]], but because he was released his EvilPlan leads to him using the Justice League's KillSat on a civillian target, nearly uploads his brain into a new Amazo to kill Superman, [[FusionDance fuses with]] Comicbook/{{Brainiac}} causing both villains to become more dangerous than ever and nearly destroy the Earth, and goes onto take over the [[LegionOfDoom Secret Society]] in attempt to revive Brainiac. His efforts to revive Brainiac fail, which instead brings back ComicBook/{{DARKSEID}}, who ends the EvilPowerVacuum on his planet that started after his death and leads his army to destroy all life on Earth.
*** In "[[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS1E8TheReturn The Return]]", the one who finally manages to get rid of Amazo is Luthor, who causes the god-like android to question his purpose and motivation, telling him, quite simply, that he's doing ''nothing'' with his near-omniscient power. It seems that, if Amazo has a weakness at all, it's lack of imagination. Amazo can't deny this, and leaves to ''find'' a purpose.
*** In "[[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS3E13Destroyer Destroyer]]", after the League and the Legion of Doom defeat Darkseid [[EnemyMine together]], the villains protest that they deserve better than being immediately incarcerated. Batman concedes the point sufficiently to give them [[MercyLead five minutes]] to run for it.

* Unintentionally so in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'', when Peter is torn between buying a new camera and giving the money to Aunt May to pay her outstanding bills. It's something ''The Shocker'' of all people says that hammers home what he is supposed to do:
--> '''Shocker:''' Ain't nothin' personal, Hoss. The simple truth is, if a man's a man he honors his responsibilities. [[ImpliedDeathThreat And you're one of mine.]]
--> '''(Later)'''
--> '''Peter:''' But... if a man's a man he honors his responsibilities. [[IronicEcho You're one of mine]]. Aunt May, please, let me help.

* ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTales'': [[BigBad The Mother Weed]] from ''Larry-Boy and the Rumor Weed'' is a [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] BotanicalAbomination who terrorizes Bumblyburg, [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats Larry-Boy to a pulp]], and damages [[NiceGuy Alfred's]] reputation so badly, that the citizens of Bumblyburg think he's getting his just desserts when the Mother Weed [[DistressedDude kidnaps him]]. But the Mother Weed is also completely right when she reminds Junior and Laura that ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero they]]'' [[NiceJobBreakingItHero were the ones who came up with the idea of Alfred being a robot, and]] ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero told her it]]'', [[NiceJobBreakingItHero thus giving her everything she needed to grow more powerful and wreak havoc]].
* ''WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries'': In "X-Ternally Yours", the Assassins Guild and Thieves Guild have to regularly pay tribute to a being called the X-Ternal or be destroyed. In a ploy to eliminate the Thieves Guild, the Assassins kidnap Bobby, who hold the Thieves' tribute. When they release him, they empty the box. When the Thieves find out almost too late about the trick and confront them, the Assassins call them stupid for not looking in the box.
* While the Reach is just using it to discredit the Justice League, both they and early on, Mr. Twister point out that the version of the Justice League seen in ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'' are using their teenaged sidekicks as ChildSoldiers. Twister goes as far as to point out their ages and say [[EvenEvilHasStandards he's disturbed by it]].

** The introduction of Zhao back in Season 1. He quickly establishes himself as a JerkAss he belittles Zuko at every opportunity, saying Zuko has no chance of catching the Avatar before him due to Zhao's resources, while Zuko is just a banished prince. Zuko rebuttles that he will be allowed to return home when he captures the Avatar, to which Zhao points out if the Fire Lord wanted Zuko back he would have allowed him to return. The more the show goes on the more it's made clear that Zhao was right, even before Azula was sent to arrest Zuko.

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arcane}}'': [[Characters/ArcaneSilco Silco]] may resort to some horrifically extreme methods wanting to start war with Piltover, but he does have a point on how Piltover needlessly antagonizes and oppresses the people living underside. His insistence on [[LibertyOverProsperity violent resistance no matter the price in human bodies over accepting being the underclass]] is the question every revolutionary must answer in the affirmative. [[spoiler: [[TheExtremistWasRight He even comes tantalizing close to acheiving independence without open war through his ruthless means]] although without Jace on the council his actions would have likely led the underside to its grave.]]

* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "[[Recap/GravityFallsS2E4SockOpera Sock Opera]]", while it is a strategy to manipulate Dipper, [[Characters/GravityFallsBillCipher Bill Cipher]] is not wrong when he points out to him that while he has regularly sacrificed and compromised his own needs and wants for Mabel, his twin has at best never really done anything to repay the favor and will at worst just continue to put her needs before his. Later on, when the triangle-shaped demon fights Mabel for the journal, he tells her that she had no problem abandoning her brother to obsess over her latest crush, not to mention taking one of his possessions without permission to use a prop in her puppet show. Unfortunately for him, [[NiceJobFixingItVillain Mabel realizes he's right]], and resolves to stop him for her brother's sake, even if it means ruining her play.

* While the Reach is just using it to discredit the Justice League, both they and early on, Mr. Twister point out that the version of the Justice League seen in ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'' are using their teenaged sidekicks as ChildSoldiers. Twister goes as far as to point out their ages and say [[EvenEvilHasStandards he's disturbed by it]].
* ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTales'': [[BigBad The Mother Weed]] from ''Larry-Boy and the Rumor Weed'' is a [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] BotanicalAbomination who terrorizes Bumblyburg, [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beats Larry-Boy to a pulp]], and damages [[NiceGuy Alfred's]] reputation so badly, that the citizens of Bumblyburg think he's getting his just desserts when the Mother Weed [[DistressedDude kidnaps him]]. But the Mother Weed is also completely right when she reminds Junior and Laura that ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero they]]'' [[NiceJobBreakingItHero were the ones who came up with the idea of Alfred being a robot, and]] ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero told her it]]'', [[NiceJobBreakingItHero thus giving her everything she needed to grow more powerful and wreak havoc]].

** ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'': In "[[Recap/BatmanBeyondS2E14Eyewitness Eyewitness]]", [[MasterOfIllusion Spellbinder]] tricks Barbara Gordon into thinking Batman killed Mad Stan. When Spellbinder's finally caught and exposed, [[EvilGloating his taunt to her]] [[FlawExploitation proves his point of her biased opinion and how she's ready to believe the worst in Terry]]. [[MoreThanMindControl His trick just finally pulled the trigger for it]].

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arcane}}'': Silco may resort to some horrifically extreme methods wanting to start war with Piltover, but he does have a point on how Piltover needlessly antagonizes and oppresses the people living underside. His insistence on [[LibertyOverProsperity violent resistance no matter the price in human bodies over accepting being the underclass]] is the question every revolutionary must answer in the affirmative. [[spoiler: [[TheExtremistWasRight He even comes tantalizing close to acheiving independence without open war through his ruthless means]] although without Jace on the council his actions would have likely led the underside to its grave.]]