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* GuideDangIt: the learning curve is isn't as steep as most make it out to be but since the game tells you so little, research on the players part is very important but... well... see the YMMV tab for more.

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* GuideDangIt: the The learning curve is creates a lot of this. It isn't as steep as most make it out that you have to be learn a lot fast but since the game tells you so little, research on the simply going into pvp against players part with far better skills and ships outfitted with better stuff or even anything at all is very going to get you killed. Mining for example is fairly easy and safe (at first) and is a good starting point. The in-game tutorials are bare bones. Most players realize that specialization is key to get decent at something fastish even if because of your lack of money and skills you won't experience much of the sandbox for months. Information on everything must be dug out of wikis or using the ingame market to find a ship, piece of ship equipment, implant or something else because of the lack of an ingame database. Luckily the market gives all the details on anything you can find on it (which is nearly everything important but... well... because of the player driven economy) but well see further for why this isn't the YMMV tab end of your learning. The game is kind enough to tell you the bare minimum skills you need to use something but not always the prerequisites for more.those skills or if there are any additional skills that would make you better at using the item. The skills themselves are this because there are a LOT of them and you won't realize they even exist until you first go on the market and sort through the dozens of skills. Also many skills descriptions are misleading or don't tell you everything the skill does. Many of the ingame terms such as CPU, powergrid, capacitor, hardpoints, turret hardpoints and high, medium and low slots on ships also require research to understand. There's more but well look at this section already.
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* LongRunner: One of the absolute arabian long-distance stallions of the MMO world, EVE has had a nearly 20-year run with plenty of indications that it's good for ''at least'' another ten. It infamously outlasted its main competitors,''VideoGame/EarthAndBeyond'' and ''Jumpgate: The Reconstruction Initiative'' by decades, and is one of the remaining, still-running [=MMOs=] from the pre-''Warcraft'' era, albeit from the tail end of that era.

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* LongRunner: One of the absolute arabian long-distance stallions of the MMO world, EVE has had a nearly 20-year run with plenty of indications that it's good for ''at least'' another ten. It infamously outlasted its ''original'' main competitors,''VideoGame/EarthAndBeyond'' and ''Jumpgate: The Reconstruction Initiative'' Initiative'', by decades, and is one of the remaining, still-running [=MMOs=] from the pre-''Warcraft'' era, albeit from the tail end of that era.
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* LongRunner: One of the absolute arabian long-distance stallions of the MMO world, EVE has had a nearly 20-year run with plenty of indications that it's good for ''at least'' another ten. It infamously outlasted its main competitors,''VideoGame/EarthAndBeyond'' and ''Jumpgate: The Reconstruction Initiative'' by decades, and is one of the remaining, still-running [=MMOs=] from the pre-''Warcraft'' era, albeit from the tail end of that era.
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* HatedByAll: [[Website/SomethingAwful Goonswarm Federation]], to pretty much everyone in EVE but themselves. They literally brought down the rest of EVE on themselves (Twice, actually, during two World War Bees). In WWB1, the Imperium (led by Goonswarm) was defeated and driven off from their home regions in the North, forcing them to move back south to Delve, with some alliances (FCON and CO2) leaving and eventually dying alone. The Moneybadger coalition did not pursue the Imperium, as they lost their funding from ISK casino IWantIsk, which was banned by CCP. The WWB2, declared by Legacy Coalition (Led by TEST) as war of extermination, saw the Imerium fight for survival. And against all odds, despite losing vast majority of their space and after over a year of fighting, the Imperium emerged victorious, angrier and more vengeful than ever. Legacy coalition fell apart and many smaller PAPI coalitions ceased to exist.

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* HatedByAll: [[Website/SomethingAwful Goonswarm Federation]], to pretty much everyone in EVE but themselves. They literally brought down the rest of EVE on themselves (Twice, actually, during two World War Bees). In WWB1, the Imperium (led by Goonswarm) was defeated and driven off from their home regions in the North, forcing them to move back south to Delve, with some alliances (FCON and CO2) [=CO2=]) leaving and eventually dying alone. The Moneybadger coalition did not pursue the Imperium, as they lost their funding from ISK casino IWantIsk, which was banned by CCP. The WWB2, declared by Legacy Coalition (Led by TEST) as war of extermination, saw the Imerium fight for survival. And against all odds, despite losing vast majority of their space and after over a year of fighting, the Imperium emerged victorious, angrier and more vengeful than ever. Legacy coalition fell apart and many smaller PAPI coalitions ceased to exist.
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The ongoing {{backstory}} of ''EVE'' is written in regular in-character news articles as well as semi-regular [[http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/archive.asp Chronicles]], a few short stories, two novellas and three novels, two of which are linked to the novellas. Many of the tropes that reference {{NPC}} characters come from these sources.

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The ongoing {{backstory}} of ''EVE'' is written in regular in-character news articles as well as semi-regular [[http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/archive.asp Chronicles]], a few short stories, two novellas and three novels, two of which are linked to the novellas. Many of the tropes that reference {{NPC}} characters {{Non Player Character}}s come from these sources.
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* InSystemFTL: Warp drive can get you anywhere within a star system in minutes, but to reach another system you need to warp over to the jump gate.
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** One mission involves getting a bunch of cash to a certain group to ransom some prisoners. "Luckily they just want planetary currency, so the real ISK value is minimal." You're given an item to transfer to them; "A lot of money".

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** One mission involves getting a bunch of cash to a certain group to ransom some prisoners. "Luckily they just want planetary currency, so the real ISK value is minimal." You're given an item to transfer to them; "A lot of money". It has no use except in the mission and is totally worthless.
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* BottomlessMagazines: Drones do not need any sort of ammo and can fight until destroyed. Civilian weapons synthesize their own ammo but are never used anyway. And the basic types of Focal Crystals (used as "ammo" for lasers) never break or need replacement. (However, even the more advanced Focal Crystals which do degrade over time last for so long that they might as well be bottomless.)

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* BottomlessMagazines: Drones do not need any sort of ammo and can fight until destroyed. Civilian weapons synthesize their own ammo but are never used anyway. And the basic types of Focal Frequency Crystals (used as "ammo" for lasers) never break or need replacement. (However, even the more advanced Focal Frequency Crystals which do degrade over time last for so long that they might as well be bottomless.)
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->''It looks like something out of ''Series/BabylonFive'' or a ''StarWars'' "crowd shot", but none of it is staged. Everyone is there for their own reasons, and you might never know what it is.''

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->''It looks like something out of ''Series/BabylonFive'' or a ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' "crowd shot", but none of it is staged. Everyone is there for their own reasons, and you might never know what it is.''
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** Black Ops ships are supposed to [[VideoGame/DukeNukem kick ass and chew bubblegum]] by virtue of the fact that they're the only ships able to see and jump to Covert Cynosural Fields in other systems. They can also use [[InvisibilityCloak cloaks]] [[LightningBruiser and don't have to worry about]] [[BackStab not being able to target anything right as the cloak is turned off.]] As useful as it is to be able to launch a fleet of invisible battleships with no targeting delay behind enemy lines, they're all crippled by being very expensive compared to other invisible ships (stealth bombers), and having fairly lmited defenses for being battleship platforms.

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** Black Ops ships are supposed to [[VideoGame/DukeNukem kick ass and chew bubblegum]] by virtue of the fact that they're the only ships able to see and jump to Covert Cynosural Fields in other systems. They can also use [[InvisibilityCloak cloaks]] [[LightningBruiser and don't have to worry about]] [[BackStab not being able to target anything right as the cloak is turned off.]] As useful as it is to be able to launch a fleet of invisible battleships with no targeting delay behind enemy lines, they're all crippled by being very expensive compared to other invisible ships (stealth bombers), and having fairly lmited limited defenses for being battleship platforms.



* CallARabbitASmeerp: CONCORD and the majority of the other {{Non Player Character}}s also have another name for you, "egger". A capsuleer is mentally capable of not just piloting a ship, but replaces the entire vital command staff, much of the on-board computers, and even the pilots for the fighter escorts for ships up to the dreadnaught/carrier class. The fact that the players cannot be reasonably called "human" or "pilots" by any reasonable definition in-setting, and how this alters their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality moral outlook]], is the central narrative theme of the game.

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* CallARabbitASmeerp: CONCORD and the majority of the other {{Non Player Character}}s also have another name for you, "egger". A capsuleer is mentally capable of not just piloting a ship, but replaces the entire vital command staff, much of the on-board computers, and even the pilots for the fighter escorts for ships up to the dreadnaught/carrier dreadnought/carrier class. The fact that the players cannot be reasonably called "human" or "pilots" by any reasonable definition in-setting, and how this alters their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality moral outlook]], is the central narrative theme of the game.



** And again achieved in the Siege of 9-4RP2, and the Fury at F-WST8, each of which ''again'' broke the world records for "largest battle in MMORPG history". (It seems that breaking world records for largest MMO battles ever is a near-yearly tradition in EVE.) While both of these fights were 12-18-hour long 10% Time Dialation grind festivals, just like B-R5RB, it seems the effective cap on players in a system has risen.

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** And again achieved in the Siege of 9-4RP2, and the Fury at F-WST8, each of which ''again'' broke the world records for "largest battle in MMORPG history". (It seems that breaking world records for largest MMO battles ever is a near-yearly tradition in EVE.) While both of these fights were 12-18-hour long 10% Time Dialation Dilation grind festivals, just like B-R5RB, it seems the effective cap on players in a system has risen.



** History repeated itself in December 2011 when White Noise. (extraneous period intentional) alliance and friends declared they were (again) invading Goonswarm space, the speech declaring this making the statement "Deklein by February." Goon spies got wind of this and counter-invaded the region of Branch over Christmas. White Noise. were caught by surprise and failed to mount any successful defence of their region and were relieved of their teritory approximately two weeks later. [[http://www.evenews24.com/2012/01/09/goonswarm-federation-on-branch-mission-accomplished/ ~words~]]

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** History repeated itself in December 2011 when White Noise. (extraneous period intentional) alliance and friends declared they were (again) invading Goonswarm space, the speech declaring this making the statement "Deklein by February." Goon spies got wind of this and counter-invaded the region of Branch over Christmas. White Noise. were caught by surprise and failed to mount any successful defence of their region and were relieved of their teritory territory approximately two weeks later. [[http://www.evenews24.com/2012/01/09/goonswarm-federation-on-branch-mission-accomplished/ ~words~]]



** However, Imperium has once again proven to be an extremely tenacious opponent, and did not break despite losing nearly all of its sovereignity during nearly one year long war, except for a single constellation in Delve region, including the capital system of 1DQ1-A. With PAPI unable to break this last bastion of their nemesis for several months and facing internal discord, the coalilion enventually fell appart and sounded a withdrawal. And thus, Delve became a site of another victory of CFC coalition (Now known as Imperium) against their mortal enemy. The Mittani, leader of the Imperium, vowed to exact vengeance on PAPI and especially TEST, for their failed genocide attempt.

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** However, Imperium has once again proven to be an extremely tenacious opponent, and did not break despite losing nearly all of its sovereignity sovereignty during nearly one year long war, except for a single constellation in Delve region, including the capital system of 1DQ1-A. With PAPI unable to break this last bastion of their nemesis for several months and facing internal discord, the coalilion enventually fell appart and sounded a withdrawal. And thus, Delve became a site of another victory of CFC coalition (Now known as Imperium) against their mortal enemy. The Mittani, leader of the Imperium, vowed to exact vengeance on PAPI and especially TEST, for their failed genocide attempt.



* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist: If you keep your clone and insurance policies up to date. It still hurts more then other games, mind you; if you get a billion ISK (say about $15) worth of strategic cruiser shot out from under you, it's gone (and its wreck probably looted by the people who blew it up), and there's no insurance for the implants (potentially another billion ISK's worth) that got blasted out of your skull when they destroyed your escape pod.

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* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist: If you keep your clone and insurance policies up to date. It still hurts more then than other games, mind you; if you get a billion ISK (say about $15) worth of strategic cruiser shot out from under you, it's gone (and its wreck probably looted by the people who blew it up), and there's no insurance for the implants (potentially another billion ISK's worth) that got blasted out of your skull when they destroyed your escape pod.



** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the forums in response to [[http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=588807&page=8 someone]] going LeeroyJenkins against a hostile capital fleet with a single poorly-fitted dreadnaught and no backup:

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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the forums in response to [[http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=588807&page=8 someone]] going LeeroyJenkins against a hostile capital fleet with a single poorly-fitted dreadnaught dreadnought and no backup:



** Militas have declared temporary truces and even 0.0 alliances have participated...though in their case typically for the lulz.

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** Militas have declared temporary truces and even 0.0 alliances have participated... though in their case typically for the lulz.



* GuideDangIt: the learning curve is isn't as steep as most make it out to be but since the game tells you so little, research on the players part is very important but... well...see the YMMV tab for more.

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Perhaps partially inspired by Origin's ''VideoGame/WingCommanderPrivateer'' and the old 8-bit classic ''VideoGame/{{Elite}}'' - as well, flavorfully, a slightly grittier ''Franchise/StarTrek'' - ''EVE'' gives new players a ship, a handful of credits (Inter Stellar [[XtremeKoolLetterz Kredits]] or "ISK"[[note]]which just happens to be the currency code for the Icelandic króna[[/note]]), and a ''very'' large [[WideOpenSandbox sandbox]] to play in. It's possible to be a pirate, a stock-market mogul, a mercenary, a trader, an explorer, a miner, a manufacturer, or any other profession that you can justify within the game mechanics. Not to mention what you can do for fun in your free time.

''EVE'' occasionally pops up in the [[http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ gaming]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEx0eJutrG0 press]] (and sometimes the [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7905924.stm?lss mainstream press]]) for extraordinary feats of sabotage, theft and other devious exploits carried out by a player or group of players. Feats like this, that might get the responsible group banned in about any other MMO, are legal gameplay in ''EVE''. ''EVE'' was in fact [[StartMyOwn created by former players]] of ''VideoGame/UltimaOnline'' in response to its restrictions on [[PlayerVersusPlayer PVP]] and [[{{Griefer}} Griefing]][[note]]such as Trammel, the notoriety system, labeling potions so you can't give newbies purple ones to watch 'em blow up, etc...[[/note]] - in other words, the main selling point of ''EVE'' is the ability to apply VideoGameCrueltyPotential to '''[[InternetJerk other players]].'''

As a result, ''EVE'' is known for having not so much a learning curve as a [[http://www.eve-pirate.com/uploads/LearningCurve.jpg learning cliff]] - though later updates have smoothed things out for new players considerably. One ''EVE'' blogger/podcaster calls the game "a sandbox with landmines" due to the often brutal PlayerVersusPlayer focus of the game. It keeps some potential players away, but many players see it as a good thing, on the assumption that you have to be at least halfway competent to survive in the game.

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Perhaps partially inspired by Origin's ''VideoGame/WingCommanderPrivateer'' and the old 8-bit classic ''VideoGame/{{Elite}}'' - -- as well, flavorfully, a slightly grittier ''Franchise/StarTrek'' - -- ''EVE'' gives new players a ship, a handful of credits (Inter Stellar [[XtremeKoolLetterz Kredits]] or "ISK"[[note]]which just happens to be the currency code for the Icelandic króna[[/note]]), and a ''very'' large [[WideOpenSandbox sandbox]] to play in. It's possible to be a pirate, a stock-market mogul, a mercenary, a trader, an explorer, a miner, a manufacturer, or any other profession that you can justify within the game mechanics. Not to mention what you can do for fun in your free time.

''EVE'' occasionally pops up in the [[http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ gaming]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEx0eJutrG0 press]] (and sometimes the [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7905924.stm?lss mainstream press]]) for extraordinary feats of sabotage, theft and other devious exploits carried out by a player or group of players. Feats like this, that might get the responsible group banned in about any other MMO, are legal gameplay in ''EVE''. ''EVE'' was in fact [[StartMyOwn created by former players]] of ''VideoGame/UltimaOnline'' in response to its restrictions on [[PlayerVersusPlayer PVP]] and [[{{Griefer}} Griefing]][[note]]such as Trammel, the notoriety system, labeling potions so you can't give newbies purple ones to watch 'em blow up, etc...[[/note]] - -- in other words, the main selling point of ''EVE'' is the ability to apply VideoGameCrueltyPotential to '''[[InternetJerk other players]].'''

As a result, ''EVE'' is known for having not so much a learning curve as a [[http://www.eve-pirate.com/uploads/LearningCurve.jpg learning cliff]] - -- though later updates have smoothed things out for new players considerably. One ''EVE'' blogger/podcaster calls the game "a sandbox with landmines" due to the often brutal PlayerVersusPlayer focus of the game. It keeps some potential players away, but many players see it as a good thing, on the assumption that you have to be at least halfway competent to survive in the game.



As [[PropagandaMachine propaganda]] by player entities about player entities is a major part of ''EVE Online''[='s=] ever-evolving metagame - and even its history, as it is remembered by most players, is typically in part [[WrittenByTheWinners written by the winners]] - all trope descriptions concerning players, player corporations, alliances and coalitions should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

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As [[PropagandaMachine propaganda]] {{propaganda|Machine}} by player entities about player entities is a major part of ''EVE Online''[='s=] ever-evolving metagame - -- and even its history, as it is remembered by most players, is typically in part [[WrittenByTheWinners written by the winners]] - -- all trope descriptions concerning players, player corporations, alliances and coalitions should probably be taken with a grain of salt.
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** ''Possibly'' subverted with Drifters, and ''more likely'' with Triglavians (the former are [[HardCodedHostility invariably hostile]] pirates who may have killed the Jove and definitely stole their tech - or possibly TheRemnant of Jovians - while Triglavians are a ProudWarriorRace that lurks in Abyssal Deadspace and [[StarfishLanguage has the first language in EVE to be difficult to translate]], as well as a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality very strange culture.]] Neither one has been expanded on enough for the ambiguity to be cleared up, although it's more likely Drifters are another HumanSubspecies.)

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** ''Possibly'' subverted with Drifters, and ''more likely'' with Triglavians (the former are [[HardCodedHostility invariably hostile]] pirates who may have killed the Jove and definitely stole their tech - -- or possibly TheRemnant of Jovians - -- while Triglavians are a ProudWarriorRace that lurks in Abyssal Deadspace and [[StarfishLanguage has the first language in EVE to be difficult to translate]], as well as a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality very strange culture.]] Neither one has been expanded on enough for the ambiguity to be cleared up, although it's more likely Drifters are another HumanSubspecies.)



* AllegedlyFreeGame: Prior to 2016, game accounts ran on a monthly subscription basis, with limited-duration free trials available; however that being said, monthly subscriptions could be traded on the in-game market, and thus it has always been possible (and in fact entirely viable) to play the game for free if you had enough ISK. In late 2016, the Alpha Clone account state was introduced, which functions as somewhere between 'free to play' and 'indefinite free trial': while Alpha Clone characters can travel anywhere in the galaxy, there are fairly harsh limits on what skills can be trained and what ships and equipment can be used. This can at times make the game look like "freemium", given that while it is technically free-to-play, the limited skills take a pretty good bite out of a free player's combat potential.

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* AllegedlyFreeGame: Prior to 2016, game accounts ran on a monthly subscription basis, with limited-duration free trials available; however that being said, monthly subscriptions could be traded on the in-game market, and thus it has always been possible (and in fact entirely viable) to play the game for free if you had enough ISK. In late 2016, the Alpha Clone account state was introduced, which functions as somewhere between 'free "free to play' play" and 'indefinite "indefinite free trial': trial": while Alpha Clone characters can travel anywhere in the galaxy, there are fairly harsh limits on what skills can be trained and what ships and equipment can be used. This can at times make the game look like "freemium", given that while it is technically free-to-play, the limited skills take a pretty good bite out of a free player's combat potential.



** The addition of Skill Extractors and Skill Injectors allows players to sacrifice selected skills in exchange for skill points (nicknamed 'skill goo' by players) which can either be used to shorten training time on other, more pertinent skills or be sold to other players for ISK.

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** The addition of Skill Extractors and Skill Injectors allows players to sacrifice selected skills in exchange for skill points (nicknamed 'skill goo' "skill goo" by players) which can either be used to shorten training time on other, more pertinent skills or be sold to other players for ISK.



** More generally, any drone-carrying subcapital ship, when fit for raw damage. Many ships carry drones as a secondary weapons system, but offer no specific bonuses to them, leaving using them as a primary offensive option a poor choice - but often allowing them to be used to destroy smaller targets the main guns struggle to hit.
** Even drone-bonused ships generally also have gun slots, and even heavily drone-optimized fits can struggle to compete with [[RayGun more]] [[PlasmaCannon conventional]] [[MagneticWeapons weapons]] for raw damage, so they should ideally fit and enhance both drones and guns, if their goal is maximum damage. [[note]]However, these ships are often put to different uses - some group-oriented fits instead opt to rely purely on their drones for damage, and instead use their high-power slots - the only fitting slots that can carry weapons - for repairing each other, hybridizing drone damage with ''repair'' power instead, creating difficult-to-overcome "spider tanks". Other fits sacrifice the power they'd use on guns - and hence, maximum damage - for extra defenses, relying on them and the high range and flexiblity of drones to make up for their shortcomings in damage dealing.[[/note]]

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** More generally, any drone-carrying subcapital ship, when fit for raw damage. Many ships carry drones as a secondary weapons system, but offer no specific bonuses to them, leaving using them as a primary offensive option a poor choice - -- but often allowing them to be used to destroy smaller targets the main guns struggle to hit.
** Even drone-bonused ships generally also have gun slots, and even heavily drone-optimized fits can struggle to compete with [[RayGun more]] [[PlasmaCannon conventional]] [[MagneticWeapons weapons]] for raw damage, so they should ideally fit and enhance both drones and guns, if their goal is maximum damage. [[note]]However, these ships are often put to different uses - -- some group-oriented fits instead opt to rely purely on their drones for damage, and instead use their high-power slots - -- the only fitting slots that can carry weapons - -- for repairing each other, hybridizing drone damage with ''repair'' power instead, creating difficult-to-overcome "spider tanks". Other fits sacrifice the power they'd use on guns - -- and hence, maximum damage - -- for extra defenses, relying on them and the high range and flexiblity of drones to make up for their shortcomings in damage dealing.[[/note]]



** Formerly, ECM modules, which used to deny your opponent any targeting abilities whatsoever when successful - allowing an easy HyperspeedEscape for non-combat ships, while completely denying the enemy ship any offensive participation for as long as their effects lasted. A balance patch altered them to still allow targeting of the ship using them, utterly killing their "civilian" uses and significantly altering their tactical role to be far more complex, engaging, and vulnerable to counterplay.

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** Formerly, ECM modules, which used to deny your opponent any targeting abilities whatsoever when successful - -- allowing an easy HyperspeedEscape for non-combat ships, while completely denying the enemy ship any offensive participation for as long as their effects lasted. A balance patch altered them to still allow targeting of the ship using them, utterly killing their "civilian" uses and significantly altering their tactical role to be far more complex, engaging, and vulnerable to counterplay.



** The premium currency PLEX[[note]]which can be used for subscription time or other premium purchases, primarily cosmetics[[/note]] can be bought for real money, and sold on the in-game market for ISK. As the in-game free market allows you to purchase nearly any item for ISK, this allows you to indirectly purchase nearly anything for real life money. There are a number of accounts - and even entire groups and wars - being funded with PLEX.

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** The premium currency PLEX[[note]]which can be used for subscription time or other premium purchases, primarily cosmetics[[/note]] can be bought for real money, and sold on the in-game market for ISK. As the in-game free market allows you to purchase nearly any item for ISK, this allows you to indirectly purchase nearly anything for real life money. There are a number of accounts - -- and even entire groups and wars - -- being funded with PLEX.



* CallARabbitASmeerp: CONCORD and the majority of the other {{Non Player Character}}s also have another name for you, '''''egger'''''.
** A capsuleer is mentally capable of not just piloting a ship, but replaces the entire vital command staff, much of the on-board computers, and even the pilots for the fighter escorts for ships up to the dreadnaught/carrier class. The fact that the players cannot be reasonably called 'human' or 'pilots' by any reasonable definition in-setting, and how this alters their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality moral outlook]] is the central narrative theme of the game.

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* CallARabbitASmeerp: CONCORD and the majority of the other {{Non Player Character}}s also have another name for you, '''''egger'''''.
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"egger". A capsuleer is mentally capable of not just piloting a ship, but replaces the entire vital command staff, much of the on-board computers, and even the pilots for the fighter escorts for ships up to the dreadnaught/carrier class. The fact that the players cannot be reasonably called 'human' "human" or 'pilots' "pilots" by any reasonable definition in-setting, and how this alters their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality moral outlook]] outlook]], is the central narrative theme of the game.



** Achieved once again with [[http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-bloodbath-of-b-r5rb/ the Battle (although "Bloodbath" is really the better way to put it) of B-R5RB]], the '''largest battle not only in EVE, but in MMORPG history''', which was run with a time dilation factor of 0.1 - it took ''21 hours'' in real life to finish, which equated to 2 hours in-universe time.

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** Achieved once again with [[http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-bloodbath-of-b-r5rb/ the Battle (although "Bloodbath" is really the better way to put it) of B-R5RB]], the '''largest battle not only in EVE, but in MMORPG history''', which was run with a time dilation factor of 0.1 - -- it took ''21 hours'' in real life to finish, which equated to 2 hours in-universe time.



* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Ammatar seem to suffer from this. They were originally the seventh tribe of the Minmatar, the Nefantar. Historically, their collusion with the Amarrian subjugation of the other tribes earned them the contempt and enmity of their former brethren - then a large number of them stabbed ''the Amarr'' in the back to save the remnants of ''another'' tribe. Then, some of the turncoats switch sides ''again'' and rejoined the Ammatar who had remained loyal.
** In the game, habitual corp thieves quite obviously suffer from this - and most people who've betrayed just ''one'' corporation will automatically be assumed to, whether or not they actually do.

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The Ammatar seem to suffer from this. They were originally the seventh tribe of the Minmatar, the Nefantar. Historically, their collusion with the Amarrian subjugation of the other tribes earned them the contempt and enmity of their former brethren - -- then a large number of them stabbed ''the Amarr'' in the back to save the remnants of ''another'' tribe. Then, some of the turncoats switch sides ''again'' and rejoined the Ammatar who had remained loyal.
** In the game, habitual corp thieves quite obviously suffer from this - -- and most people who've betrayed just ''one'' corporation will automatically be assumed to, whether or not they actually do.



* CoolStarship: Naturally, given the premise of the game, New Eden has any and every sort of funky spacecraft you might possibly hope for. Gutsy and deceptively powerful rustbuckets? The Minmatar Republic's got you covered. Ancient, ornate relics of a bygone era? The Amarr Empire's where it's at. Gleaming techno-miracles? Well, good sir/madam/renegade artificial intelligence, we've got two flavours - mechanical, angular and functional from the Caldari State, and organic, sleek, and luxurious from the Gallente Federation. Not only that, but they come in all shapes and sizes, from tiny, lightning-fast frigates through big, clunky mining ships all the way up to the kilometres-long dreadnoughts and Titans. Long story short, there's something for everyone, and if nothing else scratches your itch, Tech III cruisers will let you essentially build your own.

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* CoolStarship: Naturally, given the premise of the game, New Eden has any and every sort of funky spacecraft you might possibly hope for. Gutsy and deceptively powerful rustbuckets? The Minmatar Republic's got you covered. Ancient, ornate relics of a bygone era? The Amarr Empire's where it's at. Gleaming techno-miracles? Well, good sir/madam/renegade artificial intelligence, we've got two flavours - -- mechanical, angular and functional from the Caldari State, and organic, sleek, and luxurious from the Gallente Federation. Not only that, but they come in all shapes and sizes, from tiny, lightning-fast frigates through big, clunky mining ships all the way up to the kilometres-long dreadnoughts and Titans. Long story short, there's something for everyone, and if nothing else scratches your itch, Tech III cruisers will let you essentially build your own.



* CopyAndPasteEnvironments: The station environments are precisely the same for ''every station'' belonging to a particular race - even to that race's assigned pirate faction.

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* CopyAndPasteEnvironments: The station environments are precisely the same for ''every station'' belonging to a particular race - -- even to that race's assigned pirate faction.



* DamageSpongeBoss: Drifter Response Battleships, optional {{Bonus Boss}}es that can be summoned at the end of high-level Wormhole combat sites. They have very respectable damage, and [[ManaBurn a couple of other]] [[GetBackHereBoss nasty tricks]] that generally require foreknowledge and planning for a successful kill, but their most obviously noticeable trait is having enough HP to take even small gangs of battleships up to 10-20 minutes to kill them - a very rare feat among NPC ships, which can usually be blown away by the dozen. They are designed to offer a challenge, or at least resistance, to both capital and subcapital ships.

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* DamageSpongeBoss: Drifter Response Battleships, optional {{Bonus Boss}}es that can be summoned at the end of high-level Wormhole combat sites. They have very respectable damage, and [[ManaBurn a couple of other]] [[GetBackHereBoss nasty tricks]] that generally require foreknowledge and planning for a successful kill, but their most obviously noticeable trait is having enough HP to take even small gangs of battleships up to 10-20 minutes to kill them - -- a very rare feat among NPC ships, which can usually be blown away by the dozen. They are designed to offer a challenge, or at least resistance, to both capital and subcapital ships.



** Can be averted with certain mining ships, and may be deliberately averted with 'Battle Venture' fleets (mining frigates, fitted with weapons) or the normally irrational 'Battle Rorq' (a Rorqual capital industrial ship, normally a 2km long mining ship and mobile refinery, refitted with nigh-impenetrable shields and ''hundreds'' of combat drones).

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** Can be averted with certain mining ships, and may be deliberately averted with 'Battle Venture' "Battle Venture" fleets (mining frigates, fitted with weapons) or the normally irrational 'Battle Rorq' "Battle Rorq" (a Rorqual capital industrial ship, normally a 2km long mining ship and mobile refinery, refitted with nigh-impenetrable shields and ''hundreds'' of combat drones).



* EagleLand: The Gallente - Everyone watches their TV, listens to their pop music and drinks their soft drinks. They like to bang on about freedom at every possible opportunity. And their government consists of a President, a Senate, and a Supreme Court. Sounds rather like America, except they're ''French''.

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* EagleLand: The Gallente - Everyone -- everyone watches their TV, listens to their pop music and drinks their soft drinks. They like to bang on about freedom at every possible opportunity. And their government consists of a President, a Senate, and a Supreme Court. Sounds rather like America, except they're ''French''.



* EvilutionaryBiologist: [[spoiler:The researcher in ''[[http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=04-05-10 Extinction Burst]].'']]

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* %%* EvilutionaryBiologist: [[spoiler:The researcher in ''[[http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=04-05-10 Extinction Burst]].'']]'']]%%ZCE, dead link.



* FashionableAsymmetry: Almost all ships are asymmetric to varying degrees - [[http://i.imgur.com/auV1TcL.jpg some]] [[http://2ndanomalyfromtheleft.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/reaper.jpg wildly]] [[http://www.ravestats.com/public/fen/0_150520100854452010.05.15.18.37.35.jpg so]]. Each faction has its own flavor of asymmetry - Caldari ships usually have symmetrical fuselages (The Moa and Blackbird were notable exceptions until their redesigns), with various do-dads and wings stuck on haphazardly. Minmatar ships typically have an overall symmetric body, with spars and solar panels on some of their larger ships being mounted off-center. Amarr ships are generally very symmetric, but when they ''do'' have asymmetry, one side of the ship ends up looking completely [[http://i.imgur.com/vUoZj72.jpg different from the other]]. Gallente ships are almost always hilariously lopsided, with engines nacelles protruding from weird positions and cockpits mounted on the sides of frigates.

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* FashionableAsymmetry: Almost all ships are asymmetric to varying degrees - -- [[http://i.imgur.com/auV1TcL.jpg some]] [[http://2ndanomalyfromtheleft.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/reaper.jpg wildly]] [[http://www.ravestats.com/public/fen/0_150520100854452010.05.15.18.37.35.jpg so]]. Each faction has its own flavor of asymmetry - -- Caldari ships usually have symmetrical fuselages (The (the Moa and Blackbird were notable exceptions until their redesigns), with various do-dads and wings stuck on haphazardly. Minmatar ships typically have an overall symmetric body, with spars and solar panels on some of their larger ships being mounted off-center. Amarr ships are generally very symmetric, but when they ''do'' have asymmetry, one side of the ship ends up looking completely [[http://i.imgur.com/vUoZj72.jpg different from the other]]. Gallente ships are almost always hilariously lopsided, with engines nacelles protruding from weird positions and cockpits mounted on the sides of frigates.



* FunWithAcronyms: Exotic variants of the Target Painter have acronyms beginning with 'pwn'. Meta 1-4 respectively being: pwn, pwnd, pwnt, and pwnage.

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* FunWithAcronyms: Exotic variants of the Target Painter have acronyms beginning with 'pwn'."pwn". Meta 1-4 respectively being: pwn, pwnd, pwnt, and pwnage.



* GeneticMemory: The Intaki supposedly have this though it's not well fleshed out in the story - a religious practice called Rebirth transfers the personality of a dying person to a newborn. Nowadays it's done with technology, those who apparently do it without tech are called Idama; they train to recall past memories and are spiritual leaders.

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* GeneticMemory: The Intaki supposedly have this though this, although it's not well fleshed out in the story - -- a religious practice called Rebirth transfers the personality of a dying person to a newborn. Nowadays it's done with technology, those who apparently do it without tech are called Idama; they train to recall past memories and are spiritual leaders.



* ItsAllAboutMe: Quite common among capsuleers - but curiously, it's usually only those among the most successful and the least successful that tend to be this way.

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* ItsAllAboutMe: Quite common among capsuleers - -- but curiously, it's usually only those among the most successful and the least successful that tend to be this way.



* ManaBurn: Capacitor Warfare weapons - respectively, "Neuts" or Energy Neutralizers (remove a significant amount of energy from both the victim's and the user's capacitors) and "Noses" or Energy Vampires (remove a much smaller amount from the victim but also restore it to the user). Most ships rely on their capacitor to use some of their modules and sometimes guns.

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* ManaBurn: Capacitor Warfare weapons - -- respectively, "Neuts" or Energy Neutralizers (remove a significant amount of energy from both the victim's and the user's capacitors) and "Noses" or Energy Vampires (remove a much smaller amount from the victim but also restore it to the user). Most ships rely on their capacitor to use some of their modules and sometimes guns.



** Alts. You could in theory be chatting to three or four separate people at one time, only ''they're all the same person and you have no way of knowing it!'' This is also sometimes used in scams - posting with alts to make it look like there's far more support for your "investment opportunity" than there really is.

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** Alts. You could in theory be chatting to three or four separate people at one time, only ''they're all the same person and you have no way of knowing it!'' This is also sometimes used in scams - -- posting with alts to make it look like there's far more support for your "investment opportunity" than there really is.



** There are two notable exceptions to this - larger missile-using ships can sometimes mount rapid launchers which fire missiles one size category smaller (but require considerable reload time), and capital ships eventually received the ability to mount entire clusters of "lighter", anti-''battleship'' weaponry. Capital ship High-Angle Weapons were designed to solve this in the dreadnought-vs-battleship scale, however their accuracy against cruisers and below is still questionable.

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** There are two notable exceptions to this - -- larger missile-using ships can sometimes mount rapid launchers which fire missiles one size category smaller (but require considerable reload time), and capital ships eventually received the ability to mount entire clusters of "lighter", anti-''battleship'' weaponry. Capital ship High-Angle Weapons were designed to solve this in the dreadnought-vs-battleship scale, however their accuracy against cruisers and below is still questionable.



** Chribba. A man who somehow managed to be trusted by the majority of EVE - trusted enough, in fact, to handle multi-hundred-billion ISK transfers and ship trades. His third-party transfer service is well-known and loved throughout all corners of EVE and has built him a reputation as "The Only Honest Man in EVE". At one point, grateful members of an alliance ''gave'' him a star system. And to top it off, [[CherryTapping he mines veldspar in a dreadnought]]. ''In hi-sec''.

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** Chribba. A man who somehow managed to be trusted by the majority of EVE - ''EVE'' -- trusted enough, in fact, to handle multi-hundred-billion ISK transfers and ship trades. His third-party transfer service is well-known and loved throughout all corners of EVE and has built him a reputation as "The Only Honest Man in EVE". At one point, grateful members of an alliance ''gave'' him a star system. And to top it off, [[CherryTapping he mines veldspar in a dreadnought]]. ''In hi-sec''.



* ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming: Amarr ships named after various religious/mythological concepts, some Caldari ships named after mythological creatures (e.g. Tengu, Kitsune, Phoenix, Chimera), plus a few Minmatar ships named after parts of Norse mythology (Ragnarok, Loki, Sleipnir, Hel, Valkyrie), Gallente tend toward Greek and deities with a sprinkling of Sumerian (Ares, Ishkur, Nyx...). Minmatar also have the Wolf assault ship, said in the description to be named after 'a mythical beast renowned for its voraciousness'

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* ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming: Amarr ships named after various religious/mythological concepts, some Caldari ships named after mythological creatures (e.g. Tengu, Kitsune, Phoenix, Chimera), plus a few Minmatar ships named after parts of Norse mythology (Ragnarok, Loki, Sleipnir, Hel, Valkyrie), Gallente tend toward Greek and deities with a sprinkling of Sumerian (Ares, Ishkur, Nyx...). Minmatar also have the Wolf assault ship, said in the description to be named after 'a "a mythical beast renowned for its voraciousness'voraciousness".



** It is even more egregious with ship dimensions and cargo capacity. An example: A deep space cargo vessel, explicitly designed and built for shipping, might be about 700 meters long - 715 m in the case of a particular tech II Caldari transport, to be precise, and, judging by the scale, somewhere between 80 and 130 meters high and wide, respectively. That same Caldari vessel has a cargo capacity of 5500 m[[superscript:3]]. This is ''explicitly'' given in the ship info. Now, the cubic root of 5500 is...slightly over 17.5. That's right, the cargo hold of a ship ''which is over 700 meters long'' apparently is, if a cubic shape of said hold is assumed, about 17.5 meters long, high and wide...on a ship specifically designed for transport of goods across interstellar distances, with all the energy needs that implies, which thus should require an extremely high ratio of mass transported versus energy expended in order to be profitable. That's not a slip-up anymore, it's mind-bogglingly inane.

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** It is even more egregious with ship dimensions and cargo capacity. An example: A deep space cargo vessel, explicitly designed and built for shipping, might be about 700 meters long - -- 715 m in the case of a particular tech II Caldari transport, to be precise, and, judging by the scale, somewhere between 80 and 130 meters high and wide, respectively. That same Caldari vessel has a cargo capacity of 5500 m[[superscript:3]]. This is ''explicitly'' given in the ship info. Now, the cubic root of 5500 is...slightly over 17.5. That's right, the cargo hold of a ship ''which is over 700 meters long'' apparently is, if a cubic shape of said hold is assumed, about 17.5 meters long, high and wide...on a ship specifically designed for transport of goods across interstellar distances, with all the energy needs that implies, which thus should require an extremely high ratio of mass transported versus energy expended in order to be profitable. That's not a slip-up anymore, it's mind-bogglingly inane.



** Also of note, the 'wind' is actually the most real of the sounds to be heard in EVE, bar UI clicks and beeps. It's been described, in a few places, as the solar wind; 'could even be the pod's converting it to audio and streaming it from external sensors.

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** Also of note, the 'wind' "wind" is actually the most real of the sounds to be heard in EVE, ''EVE'', bar UI clicks and beeps. It's been described, in a few places, as the solar wind; 'could could even be the pod's converting it to audio and streaming it from external sensors.



* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Yes, the enemies you fight in the Gallente mission 'Exploited Sensitivities' are unidentified mercenaries who are in no way affiliated with the Caldari Navy. The fact that they fly Caldari Navy ships in Caldari Navy colours that drop Caldari Navy loot is totally coincidental. Move along, citizen.

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* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Yes, the enemies you fight in the Gallente mission 'Exploited Sensitivities' "Exploited Sensitivities" are unidentified mercenaries who are in no way affiliated with the Caldari Navy. The fact that they fly Caldari Navy ships in Caldari Navy colours that drop Caldari Navy loot is totally coincidental. Move along, citizen.



----> Revelation burrows through the material world, devours creation's soil, digests the thoughtless void, and produces significance with God's grace. From emptiness comes meaning, essence from existence, soul from matter.

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----> Revelation ---->''Revelation burrows through the material world, devours creation's soil, digests the thoughtless void, and produces significance with God's grace. From emptiness comes meaning, essence from existence, soul from matter.''



----> Is God through the wormhole? Did God grant us this boon, this new technology, a revelation from on high? These weapons are God's new prophecy, domain, and blessing. Let us use God's grace and prepare New Eden. We are God's soldiers, weapons, glory. Our people are God's army. Together, we are the legion.

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----> Is ---->''Is God through the wormhole? Did God grant us this boon, this new technology, a revelation from on high? These weapons are God's new prophecy, domain, and blessing. Let us use God's grace and prepare New Eden. We are God's soldiers, weapons, glory. Our people are God's army. Together, we are the legion.''



----> -The Heresies of Hinketsu

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----> -The ---->-''The Heresies of HinketsuHinketsu''



*** Avatar: Referencing the name's original meaning as a god's manifestation on the mortal realm, this only makes sense if you knew that old meaning. This from the [[https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/scriptures Amarr Scriptures]]:
----> Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed
----> The cascade of evil, the torrents of war.
----> Burning with wrath, He stepped
----> down from the Heavens
----> To judge the unworthy,
----> To redeem the pure.

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*** Avatar: Referencing the name's original meaning as a god's manifestation on the mortal realm, this only makes sense if you knew know that old meaning. This from the [[https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/scriptures Amarr Scriptures]]:
----> Casting ---->''Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed
----> The
witnessed''
---->''The
cascade of evil, the torrents of war.
----> Burning
war.''
---->''Burning
with wrath, He stepped
----> down
stepped''
---->''down
from the Heavens
----> To
Heavens''
---->''To
judge the unworthy,
----> To
unworthy,''
---->''To
redeem the pure.''



----> -The Scriptures, Revelation Verses 2:12

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----> -The ---->-The Scriptures, Revelation Verses 2:12



----> "We're the Ninth Mega now, have been for a long time and we're necessary to the entire setup. The Caldari State was getting stale, hidebound, all that 'Heiian' bullshit. Think the Big Eight give a fedo's fart for that? That's holoprop mindflood. Strictly for the dopes. The proles looking for an excuse not to stick it to Big Daddy Mega. And the eggers who spout 'Glory to the State'. They're the worst. All that power and they bow down before Mother State and Daddy Mega. Sickening."

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----> "We're ---->''"We're the Ninth Mega now, have been for a long time and we're necessary to the entire setup. The Caldari State was getting stale, hidebound, all that 'Heiian' "Heiian" bullshit. Think the Big Eight give a fedo's fart for that? That's holoprop mindflood. Strictly for the dopes. The proles looking for an excuse not to stick it to Big Daddy Mega. And the eggers who spout 'Glory "Glory to the State'.State". They're the worst. All that power and they bow down before Mother State and Daddy Mega. Sickening.""''



----> "What? Ah yeah, Ninth Mega. What do I mean? Look, the Big Eight, right? They carve up the State between them. They get together, decide what each Mega will run, make it look good for the masses, bit of competition here, a bit of warfare there. That's all show. They're vertically integrated megacorps that run entire sectors of the economy because they've all signed up to a plan. Well, we're the anti-plan. We're the Ninth Mega because someone's got to take care of crime, right? That's us, the Mega of Crime!"

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----> "What? ---->''"What? Ah yeah, Ninth Mega. What do I mean? Look, the Big Eight, right? They carve up the State between them. They get together, decide what each Mega will run, make it look good for the masses, bit of competition here, a bit of warfare there. That's all show. They're vertically integrated megacorps that run entire sectors of the economy because they've all signed up to a plan. Well, we're the anti-plan. We're the Ninth Mega because someone's got to take care of crime, right? That's us, the Mega of Crime!"Crime!"''



----> - Korako 'The Rabbit' Kosakami, interview with Ret Gloriaxx of the Scope's Galactic Hour with Ret Gloriaxx

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----> - -- Korako 'The Rabbit' "the Rabbit" Kosakami, interview with Ret Gloriaxx of the Scope's Galactic Hour with Ret Gloriaxx



* UniversalAmmunition: Ammunition exists in four size classes, and each turret group (projectile, hybrid, energy) has their own types, but within each type and size, ammo is universal. Hybrid weapons use the {{handwave}} that their charges can be fed to a blaster or fired whole from a railgun, but no explanation is given for how, say, a single unit of Medium projectile ammo can become a burst of 180mm, a burst of 425mm, or a single 720mm shell. Missiles avert this - the short and long ranged type of every size class use entirely different ammunition.
* {{Unobtanium}}: Asteroid mined ore refines in to exotic sounding materials such as Zydrine, Tritanium and many others that make the advanced technology of EVE possible, some are more rarer than others. However the clearest example of unobtainium is the main ingredient of the incredibly advanced Tech 3 ships - nanofullerenes and fullerites, found only in wormhole space, and mostly salvaged from wrecks of Sleeper drones. It is more rarer than anything else found on New Eden, but for their incredible technological properties in constant demand.

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* UniversalAmmunition: Ammunition exists in four size classes, and each turret group (projectile, hybrid, energy) has their own types, but within each type and size, ammo is universal. Hybrid weapons use the {{handwave}} that their charges can be fed to a blaster or fired whole from a railgun, but no explanation is given for how, say, a single unit of Medium projectile ammo can become a burst of 180mm, a burst of 425mm, or a single 720mm shell. Missiles avert this - -- the short and long ranged type of every size class use entirely different ammunition.
* {{Unobtanium}}: Asteroid mined ore refines in to exotic sounding materials such as Zydrine, Tritanium and many others that make the advanced technology of EVE possible, some are more rarer than others. However the clearest example of unobtainium is the main ingredient of the incredibly advanced Tech 3 ships - -- nanofullerenes and fullerites, found only in wormhole space, and mostly salvaged from wrecks of Sleeper drones. It is more rarer than anything else found on New Eden, but for their incredible technological properties in constant demand.



* UsedFuture: The Minmatar, massively Many of their ship designs look so haphazard that they are often joked as being held together by duct tape, or called "flying junk-heaps" by those who mock them ([[Machinima/ClearSkies One notable EVE machinima]] once referred to the titular Minmatar ship as "an explosion in a girder factory"). Those who like them declare "In Rust We Trust" and "never underestimate the power of Tech 2 duct tape". Some of the newer Minmatar ships have moved away from the more haphazard 'held together with duct tape' style of other ones (such as the Hurricane battlecruiser, the Maelstrom battleship, the Loki strategic cruiser and all the capital ships, which have a very definite style).

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* UsedFuture: The Minmatar, massively Minmatar. Many of their ship designs look so haphazard that they are often joked as being held together by duct tape, or called "flying junk-heaps" by those who mock them ([[Machinima/ClearSkies One notable EVE machinima]] once referred to the titular Minmatar ship as "an explosion in a girder factory"). Those who like them declare "In Rust We Trust" and "never underestimate the power of Tech 2 duct tape". Some of the newer Minmatar ships have moved away from the more haphazard 'held "held together with duct tape' tape" style of other ones (such as the Hurricane battlecruiser, the Maelstrom battleship, the Loki strategic cruiser and all the capital ships, which have a very definite style).



* WeWillSpendCreditsInTheFuture: The currency, known as ISK (Inter-Stellar [[XtremeKoolLetterz Kredits]][[note]]which just happens to be the currency code for the Icelandic króna[[/note]]), is not so much a global currency as it is a global ''exchange'' currency. Planetary economies and sometimes individual planetary nations almost all have their own currencies, ISK was merely setup as an exchange medium to manage the obscene amounts of money being used at the inter-stellar level - the popular saying goes you can retire comfortably planet-side basically anywhere in the cluster on [[ZillionDollarBill single digit amounts of the stuff]][[labelnote:*]]The realities of the economy make this highly suspect -- a single machine gun bullet made of ordinary lead (albeit one designed and built for ship-to-ship space combat) normally costs several ISK[[/labelnote]]. And despite that, the economy is such that the de-facto unit of currency is in millions of isk. Ask someone for a price, and they say '50', they mean 50 MILLION isk. Guess the CasualInterstellarTravel isn't all that casual...

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* WeWillSpendCreditsInTheFuture: The currency, known as ISK (Inter-Stellar [[XtremeKoolLetterz Kredits]][[note]]which just happens to be the currency code for the Icelandic króna[[/note]]), is not so much a global currency as it is a global ''exchange'' currency. Planetary economies and sometimes individual planetary nations almost all have their own currencies, ISK was merely setup as an exchange medium to manage the obscene amounts of money being used at the inter-stellar level - -- the popular saying goes you can retire comfortably planet-side basically anywhere in the cluster on [[ZillionDollarBill single digit amounts of the stuff]][[labelnote:*]]The realities of the economy make this highly suspect -- a single machine gun bullet made of ordinary lead (albeit one designed and built for ship-to-ship space combat) normally costs several ISK[[/labelnote]]. And despite that, the economy is such that the de-facto unit of currency is in millions of isk. Ask someone for a price, and they say '50', they mean 50 MILLION isk. Guess the CasualInterstellarTravel isn't all that casual...
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* PoweredByABlackHole: Triglavian ships utilize naked singularities contained on the external hull as their vessel's primary power source.
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* HatedByAll: [[Website/SomethingAwful Goonswarm Federation]], to pretty much everyone in EVE but themselves. They literally brought down the rest of EVE on themselves (Twice, actually, during two World War Bees).

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* HatedByAll: [[Website/SomethingAwful Goonswarm Federation]], to pretty much everyone in EVE but themselves. They literally brought down the rest of EVE on themselves (Twice, actually, during two World War Bees). In WWB1, the Imperium (led by Goonswarm) was defeated and driven off from their home regions in the North, forcing them to move back south to Delve, with some alliances (FCON and CO2) leaving and eventually dying alone. The Moneybadger coalition did not pursue the Imperium, as they lost their funding from ISK casino IWantIsk, which was banned by CCP. The WWB2, declared by Legacy Coalition (Led by TEST) as war of extermination, saw the Imerium fight for survival. And against all odds, despite losing vast majority of their space and after over a year of fighting, the Imperium emerged victorious, angrier and more vengeful than ever. Legacy coalition fell apart and many smaller PAPI coalitions ceased to exist.
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** However, losing North was not the end of Goonswarm and Imperium (Except CO2 and FCON, who broke off and eventually ceased to exist), as they reformed themselves in Delve, a relatively inferior region, which however has a lot of sentimental value, as they once destroyed their original mortal enemy, Band of Brothers, here. After the I-Want-Isk casino, which financed the Moneybadger campaign, was banned by CCP, Moneybadgers fell apart (until reforming as PAPI in 2020 to destroy the Imperium). Later, they went on a trail of vengeance, promising to glass the north and punish everyone who dared to settle in their former home. And succeeded in doing so.

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** However, losing North was not the end of Goonswarm and Imperium (Except CO2 [=CO2=] and FCON, who broke off and eventually ceased to exist), as they reformed themselves in Delve, a relatively inferior region, which however has a lot of sentimental value, as they once destroyed their original mortal enemy, Band of Brothers, here. After the I-Want-Isk casino, which financed the Moneybadger campaign, was banned by CCP, Moneybadgers fell apart (until reforming as PAPI in 2020 to destroy the Imperium). Later, they went on a trail of vengeance, promising to glass the north and punish everyone who dared to settle in their former home. And succeeded in doing so.
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** In 2020, after 4 years of relative peace and goodwill between Imperium and Legacy coalition (led by TEST), TEST decided to break the NIP agreement and formed PAPI coalition with great number of alliances, including Northern Coalition, Pandemic Horde, Brave Collective, Fraternity and others) with the intention to not just defeat the Imperium again, but to totally annihilate them and erase them from the game, starting World War Bee 2. Having around 3 to 1 player advantage, PAPI expected to destroy Imperium quickly.
** However, Imperium has once again proven to be an extremely tenacious opponent, and did not break despite losing nearly all of its sovereignity during nearly one year long war, except for a single constellation in Delve region, including the capital system of 1DQ1-A. With PAPI unable to break this last bastion of their nemesis for several months and facing internal discord, the coalilion enventually fell appart and sounded a withdrawal. And thus, Delve became a site of another victory of CFC coalition (Now known as Imperium) against their mortal enemy. The Mittani, leader of the Imperium, vowed to exact vengeance on PAPI and especially TEST, for their failed genocide attempt.
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* TenuouslyConnectedFlavorText: Most ships' flavor text is a short in-universe history of the ship in question. But for most Strategic Cruiser and Titan class ships, the flavor text is tangentially-connected quotes from in-universe literature or interviews:
** Strategic Cruiser:
*** Legion: Only clear at the end:
----> Revelation burrows through the material world, devours creation's soil, digests the thoughtless void, and produces significance with God's grace. From emptiness comes meaning, essence from existence, soul from matter.
---->
----> Is God through the wormhole? Did God grant us this boon, this new technology, a revelation from on high? These weapons are God's new prophecy, domain, and blessing. Let us use God's grace and prepare New Eden. We are God's soldiers, weapons, glory. Our people are God's army. Together, we are the legion.
---->
----> -The Heresies of Hinketsu
** Titans:
*** Avatar: Referencing the name's original meaning as a god's manifestation on the mortal realm, this only makes sense if you knew that old meaning. This from the [[https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/scriptures Amarr Scriptures]]:
----> Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed
----> The cascade of evil, the torrents of war.
----> Burning with wrath, He stepped
----> down from the Heavens
----> To judge the unworthy,
----> To redeem the pure.
---->
----> -The Scriptures, Revelation Verses 2:12
*** Komodo: From an interview of one the founders of its creating organization, Guristas:
----> "We're the Ninth Mega now, have been for a long time and we're necessary to the entire setup. The Caldari State was getting stale, hidebound, all that 'Heiian' bullshit. Think the Big Eight give a fedo's fart for that? That's holoprop mindflood. Strictly for the dopes. The proles looking for an excuse not to stick it to Big Daddy Mega. And the eggers who spout 'Glory to the State'. They're the worst. All that power and they bow down before Mother State and Daddy Mega. Sickening."
---->
----> "What? Ah yeah, Ninth Mega. What do I mean? Look, the Big Eight, right? They carve up the State between them. They get together, decide what each Mega will run, make it look good for the masses, bit of competition here, a bit of warfare there. That's all show. They're vertically integrated megacorps that run entire sectors of the economy because they've all signed up to a plan. Well, we're the anti-plan. We're the Ninth Mega because someone's got to take care of crime, right? That's us, the Mega of Crime!"
---->
----> - Korako 'The Rabbit' Kosakami, interview with Ret Gloriaxx of the Scope's Galactic Hour with Ret Gloriaxx
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** To an extent, all bigger ships, as they inevitably armed with weapons only effective against similar-sized spacecraft, making them borderline helpless and very vulnerable to smaller ships.

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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: [[Website/SomethingAwful Goonswarm Federation]], to pretty much everyone in EVE but themselves. They literally brought down the rest of EVE on themselves (Twice, actually, during two World War Bees).


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* HatedByAll: [[Website/SomethingAwful Goonswarm Federation]], to pretty much everyone in EVE but themselves. They literally brought down the rest of EVE on themselves (Twice, actually, during two World War Bees).
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* TheShill: SockPuppet accounts for the purposes of scamming are perfectly legal. Dedicated scammers can have ''dozens'' of active accounts with spotless histories to act as "satisfied customers" or worm their way into a corporation for that perfect theft. The spoils of a really big scam or heist can buy ''years'' of game time off the in-game market, so it doesn't even have to cost them any RealLife money.
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* GondorCallsForAid: After seeing war declared on them by the entirety of Nullsec (~150,000 players) in late 2020, with the explicit stated goal of removing Goonswarm from the game, Goonswarm activated "The Horn of Goondor", a long standing emergency plan. What is the Horn of Goondor? [[https://imperium.news/the-beacons-are-lit-goondor-calls-for-aid/ The Mittani emailed every single user who had ever been a Goon, no matter how long ago they played or how skilled they were — all hundred thousand plus of them — and asked them to return to the game.]]

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* GondorCallsForAid: After seeing war declared on them by the entirety of Nullsec (~150,000 players) in late 2020, with the explicit stated goal of removing Goonswarm from the game, Goonswarm activated "The Horn of Goondor", a long standing emergency plan. What is the Horn of Goondor? [[https://imperium.'''[[https://imperium.news/the-beacons-are-lit-goondor-calls-for-aid/ The Mittani emailed every single user who had ever been a Goon, no matter how long ago they played or how skilled they were — all hundred thousand plus of them — and asked them to return to the game.]]]]'''
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* GondorCallsForAid: After seeing war declared on them by the entirety of Nullsec (~150,000 players) in late 2020, with the explicit stated goal of removing Goonswarm from the game, Goonswarm activated '''The Horn of Goondor,''' a long standing emergency plan. What is the Horn of Goondor? '''[[https://imperium.news/the-beacons-are-lit-goondor-calls-for-aid/ The Mittani emailed every single user who had ever been a Goon, no matter how long ago they played or how skilled they were -- all hundred thousand plus of them -- and asked them to return to the game.]]'''
-> "You knew this day would come; you knew that you would be called. Only as a last resort; only when it matters most, when the fate of our tribe and the galaxy itself hangs in the balance. The Horn of Goondor, only to be sounded in our darkest hour, when the enemy is at the gates of Fortress Delve and it is time to win or die."

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* GondorCallsForAid: After seeing war declared on them by the entirety of Nullsec (~150,000 players) in late 2020, with the explicit stated goal of removing Goonswarm from the game, Goonswarm activated '''The "The Horn of Goondor,''' Goondor", a long standing emergency plan. What is the Horn of Goondor? '''[[https://imperium.[[https://imperium.news/the-beacons-are-lit-goondor-calls-for-aid/ The Mittani emailed every single user who had ever been a Goon, no matter how long ago they played or how skilled they were -- all hundred thousand plus of them -- and asked them to return to the game.]]'''
-> "You
]]
-->"You
knew this day would come; you knew that you would be called. Only as a last resort; only when it matters most, when the fate of our tribe and the galaxy itself hangs in the balance. The Horn of Goondor, only to be sounded in our darkest hour, when the enemy is at the gates of Fortress Delve and it is time to win or die."
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Merged with The Con


* MassiveMultiplayerScam: One of the few examples in a Massive Multiplayer Online Game. The player group called Guiding Hand Social Club [[http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ infiltrated a corporation]], worked their way up the ranks before emptying the corp's wallet, stealing their assets and killing it's leader once.
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''EVE'' occasionally pops up in the [[http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ gaming]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEx0eJutrG0 press]] (and sometimes the [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7905924.stm?lss mainstream press]]) for extraordinary feats of sabotage, theft and other devious exploits carried out by a player or group of players. Feats like this, that might get the responsible group banned in about any other MMO, are legal gameplay in ''EVE''. ''EVE'' was in fact [[StartMyOwn created by former players]] of ''VideoGame/UltimaOnline'' in response to its restrictions on [[PlayerVersusPlayer PVP]] and [[{{Griefer}} Griefing]][[note]]such as Trammel, the notoriety system, labeling potions so you can't give newbies purple ones to watch 'em blow up, etc...[[/note]] - in other words, the main selling point of ''EVE'' is the ability to apply VideoGameCrueltyPotential to '''[[{{GIFT}} other players]].'''

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''EVE'' occasionally pops up in the [[http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ gaming]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEx0eJutrG0 press]] (and sometimes the [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7905924.stm?lss mainstream press]]) for extraordinary feats of sabotage, theft and other devious exploits carried out by a player or group of players. Feats like this, that might get the responsible group banned in about any other MMO, are legal gameplay in ''EVE''. ''EVE'' was in fact [[StartMyOwn created by former players]] of ''VideoGame/UltimaOnline'' in response to its restrictions on [[PlayerVersusPlayer PVP]] and [[{{Griefer}} Griefing]][[note]]such as Trammel, the notoriety system, labeling potions so you can't give newbies purple ones to watch 'em blow up, etc...[[/note]] - in other words, the main selling point of ''EVE'' is the ability to apply VideoGameCrueltyPotential to '''[[{{GIFT}} '''[[InternetJerk other players]].'''



* InGameBankingServices: players proposed banking services though, [[{{GIFT}} as befits the universe]], ''all'' of them were frauds, [[https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/142571 whether by conception or by execution]]: since players had no way to ensure the bankers would actually pay up capital and interest and the bankers themselves had no way to force debtors to pay up their loans, along with the fact the game had plenty of liquidities circulating, banking was simply unpractical for the time being.

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* InGameBankingServices: players proposed banking services though, [[{{GIFT}} [[InternetJerk as befits the universe]], ''all'' of them were frauds, [[https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/142571 whether by conception or by execution]]: since players had no way to ensure the bankers would actually pay up capital and interest and the bankers themselves had no way to force debtors to pay up their loans, along with the fact the game had plenty of liquidities circulating, banking was simply unpractical for the time being.
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** '''The Massacre of M2-.''' A massive, record setting battle on 12/30/21 saw over 250 titans destroyed between the Imperium and PAPI, roughly equal losses on both sides -- easily the largest number of lost titans in any one battle. Three days later, when the space station became vulnerable again, The Imperium had formed up over 4500 people in the system to defend it, and PAPI had organized over 6000 to attack it. Details are still up in the air as to what exactly happened on 1/2/21, but either a massive overestimation of server capabilities or a massive tactical error resulted in PAPI attempting to jump thousands of players directly on top of Goonswarm's defenses -- and right into the waiting arms of the "woodchipper," a massive swarm of thousands if not tens of thousands of heavy anti-capital fighter drones. The resulting battle saw upwards of 166 PAPI titans destroyed and ZERO Goonswarm titan losses. It was such a lopsided massacre that Goonswarm stood down because '''they ran out of things to kill,''' with many players upset things were dying so fast they couldn't shoot them and get in on the killmails.

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** '''The Massacre of M2-.''' A massive, record setting battle on 12/30/21 12/30/20 saw over 250 titans destroyed between the Imperium and PAPI, roughly equal losses on both sides -- easily the largest number of lost titans in any one battle. Three days later, when the space station became vulnerable again, The Imperium had formed up over 4500 people in the system to defend it, and PAPI had organized over 6000 to attack it. Details are still up in the air as to what exactly happened on 1/2/21, but either a massive overestimation of server capabilities or a massive tactical error resulted in PAPI attempting to jump thousands of players directly on top of Goonswarm's defenses -- and right into the waiting arms of the "woodchipper," a massive swarm of thousands if not tens of thousands of heavy anti-capital fighter drones. The resulting battle saw upwards of 166 PAPI titans destroyed and ZERO Goonswarm titan losses. It was such a lopsided massacre that Goonswarm stood down because '''they ran out of things to kill,''' with many players upset things were dying so fast they couldn't shoot them and get in on the killmails.
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** Another accepted theory is that the warp drives, which must be kept perpetually powered or else it will spontaneously explode, change how the ship interacts with space, up to and including drag, rebounding, and acceleration and deceleration.
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* WeAreStrugglingTogether: Most often, a war in this game ends when an alliance melts down from a combination of external pressure and internal [[SeriousBusiness drama]]. Even one of the strongest alliances in the game, Goonswarm, has fallen victim to internal politics, going through at least one cycle of disbanding and reforming.

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* WeAreStrugglingTogether: Most often, a war in this game ends when an alliance melts down from a combination of external pressure and internal [[SeriousBusiness drama]].drama]], this process is known as the [[https://imperium.news/ Failure cascade]]. Even one of the strongest alliances in the game, Goonswarm, has fallen victim to internal politics, going through at least one cycle of disbanding and reforming.
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** The Massacre of M2- was started off when a new player on the Imperium's side took a potshot at a Cyno Jammer in an interceptor, putting it into repair status and thus disabling it, causing PAPI to lose the ability to prevent Imperium capital ships from entering the system, completely ruining the longstanding tactical plans of PAPI. Over 400 titans have died because of that one single shot from a 6 month old "newbee."

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** The Massacre of M2- was started off when a new player on the Imperium's side took a potshot at a Cyno Jammer in an interceptor, putting it into repair status and thus disabling it, preventing PAPI from activating it for 15 minutes, causing PAPI to lose the ability to prevent Imperium capital ships from entering the system, completely ruining the longstanding tactical plans of PAPI. Over 400 titans have died because of that one single shot from a 6 month old "newbee."

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