History VideoGame / GrandiaII

9th May '16 5:34:53 PM CybranGeneralSturm
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* HeroicSacrifice: During the heroes' flight from [[spoiler:the surface of Valmar's moon]], they get attacked by waves of extremely weak mooks and a couple of tanky [[SubBoss Sub Bosses]] until [[spoiler:Mareg]] is inexplicably struck in the back by a flying insect's tusk.

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* HeroicSacrifice: During the heroes' flight from [[spoiler:the surface of Valmar's moon]], they get attacked by waves of extremely weak mooks and a couple of tanky [[SubBoss [[MiniBoss Sub Bosses]] until [[spoiler:Mareg]] is inexplicably struck in the back by a flying insect's tusk.
9th May '16 5:30:02 PM CybranGeneralSturm
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** Of course those mooks are very weak. With the right setup of skills it's possible to cut damage done down to single digits while using Millena's healing abilities to heal far more then that. It's hard to feel threatened by mooks when the party could take on 3 times as many at once and still walk out of every fight at full strength. Thus the whole scene can easily feel like a StupidSacrifice due to StoryGameplaySeperation.

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** Of course those mooks are very weak. With the right setup of skills it's possible to cut damage done down to single digits while using Millena's healing abilities to heal far more then that. It's hard to feel threatened by mooks when the party could take on 3 times as many at once and still walk out of every fight at full strength. Thus the whole scene can easily feel like a StupidSacrifice due to StoryGameplaySeperation.GameplayAndStorySegregation.
9th May '16 5:27:37 PM CybranGeneralSturm
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* HeroicSacrifice: During the heroes' flight from [[spoiler:the surface of Valmar's moon]], they get attacked by waves of extremely weak mooks until [[spoiler:Mareg]] is inexplicably struck in the back by a flying insect's tusk.
** Of course these mooks are very week. With the right setup of skills it's possible to cut damage done down to single digits while using Millena's healing abilities to heal far more then that. It's hard to feel threatened by mooks when the party could take on 3 times as many at once and still walk out of every fight at full strength. Thus the whole scene can easily feel like a StupidSacrifice due to StoryGameplaySeperation.

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* HeroicSacrifice: During the heroes' flight from [[spoiler:the surface of Valmar's moon]], they get attacked by waves of extremely weak mooks and a couple of tanky [[SubBoss Sub Bosses]] until [[spoiler:Mareg]] is inexplicably struck in the back by a flying insect's tusk.
** Of course these those mooks are very week.weak. With the right setup of skills it's possible to cut damage done down to single digits while using Millena's healing abilities to heal far more then that. It's hard to feel threatened by mooks when the party could take on 3 times as many at once and still walk out of every fight at full strength. Thus the whole scene can easily feel like a StupidSacrifice due to StoryGameplaySeperation.
9th May '16 4:51:08 PM dsollen
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** Of course these mooks are very week. With the right setup of skills it's possible to cut damage done down to single digits while using Millena's healing abilities to heal far more then that. It's hard to feel threatened by mooks when the party could take on 3 times as many at a time without issue. Thus the sacrifice can feel like a StupidSacrifice

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** Of course these mooks are very week. With the right setup of skills it's possible to cut damage done down to single digits while using Millena's healing abilities to heal far more then that. It's hard to feel threatened by mooks when the party could take on 3 times as many at a time without issue. once and still walk out of every fight at full strength. Thus the sacrifice whole scene can easily feel like a StupidSacrificeStupidSacrifice due to StoryGameplaySeperation.
9th May '16 4:44:09 PM dsollen
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* EliteTweak: A book teaching a taunt ability becomes available realtively early, when fully upgraded this ability causes all opponents to attack one ally. Equip this on a character and half them defend (which blocks far more then then 1/2 damage of most games) every turn and you have cut the total damage the team takes down to a fraction. Give the same character one or two two defensive abilities as well and watch even bosses do little more then ScratchDamage. If you forgo offensive skills temporarily to upgrade the taunt and toughness skill early it's easily possible to create a team that takes almost no damage within the first third of the game without any need for level grinding. After that the only problem is not getting bored with how easy the fights are.
** It's possible to take on any boss in the second half of the game game, including the FinalBoss without casting a single heal, or using Elena's special ability, by equipping a tank and passing around health regeneration rings to heal what little damage is taken. A no magic no ability run is actually trivially easy without grinding once taunt and regen rings are available.
11th Feb '16 4:11:41 PM GrammarNavi
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The second entry in the ''Franchise/{{Grandia}}'' series, ''Grandia II'' was the only game developed by Creator/GameArts for the UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast. Originally released in 2000, it received PlayStation2 and Windows ports two years later. The game received its English localization from Creator/{{Ubisoft}}.

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The second entry in the ''Franchise/{{Grandia}}'' series, ''Grandia II'' was the only game developed by Creator/GameArts for the UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast. Originally released in 2000, it received PlayStation2 UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 and Windows ports two years later. The game received its English localization from Creator/{{Ubisoft}}.
9th Jan '16 10:10:30 AM Someoneman
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* OverlyLongFightingAnimation: Several [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhhO3hzCD4 attack animations]] last over 10 seconds, which is relatively tame by this trope's standards, but becomes noticeable due to how often you'll be using most of these spells.
9th Jan '16 6:52:40 AM Someoneman
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* [[spoiler:DevilButNoGod]]: [[spoiler:Granas is long-dead, while Valmar is merely dormant -- ironic, since the church espouses a doctrine saying that the opposite is true. But then again, neither are gods in the first place.]]

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* [[spoiler:DevilButNoGod]]: DevilButNoGod: Notice that Valmar directly causes several plot elements, while Granas doesn't do much? As it turns out, [[spoiler:Granas is long-dead, while Valmar is merely dormant -- ironic, since the church espouses a doctrine saying that the opposite is true. But then again, neither are gods in the first place.]]



* [[spoiler:GodIsDead]]: Unknown to all but a few (who actively hide the truth from the rest of the world), Granas [[spoiler:lost the war against his Satan-analogue, Valmar]]. While Valmar was indeed sealed away as the Church of Granas claims, [[spoiler:Granas died in the process]].
** Though there are ''vague'' hints that this might not be entirely true, such as Mareg's (first and only) prayer to Granas being answered by the Granasaber, which miraculously powers up. The conclusion of the game also sees the Granacliffs [[spoiler:transforming into rivers]] upon Valmar's defeat.

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* [[spoiler:GodIsDead]]: Unknown to all but a few (who actively hide the truth from the rest of the world), Granas [[spoiler:lost the war against his Satan-analogue, Valmar]]. While Valmar was indeed sealed away as the Church of Granas claims, [[spoiler:Granas died in the process]].
** Though there are ''vague'' hints that this might not be entirely true, such as Mareg's (first and only) prayer to Granas being answered by the Granasaber, which miraculously powers up. The conclusion of the game also sees the Granacliffs [[spoiler:transforming into rivers]] upon Valmar's defeat.



* [[OminousLatinChanting Ominous Portuguese Chanting]]: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Asw9ZLf86M "Granas' Sanctuary"]].

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* [[OminousLatinChanting Ominous Portuguese Chanting]]: OminousChanting: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Asw9ZLf86M "Granas' Sanctuary"]].



** [[spoiler:Pope Zea]] eventually became this to Valmar, systematically piecing the beast back together, only to sublimate its "will" and control it from within. If this seems far-fetched, it's worth noting that Valmar was [[spoiler:originally a mere man himself]].

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** [[spoiler:Pope Zea]] Zera]] eventually became this to Valmar, systematically piecing the beast back together, only to sublimate its "will" and control it from within. If this seems far-fetched, it's worth noting that Valmar was [[spoiler:originally a mere man himself]].



* [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude Who Names Their Ship "Dude"?]]: While examining the hull of the ''50/50'', Ryudo guesses that it must be #50 of fifty ships or perhaps that's its registration. No, the Captain corrects him, that be the name of the ship, matey!

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* [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude Who Names Their Ship "Dude"?]]: WhoNamesTheirKidDude: A ship example with the ''50/50''. While examining the hull of the ''50/50'', hull, Ryudo guesses that it must be #50 of fifty ships or perhaps that's its registration. No, the Captain corrects him, that be the name of the ship, matey!
2nd Jan '16 4:29:18 PM CybranGeneralSturm
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The plot kicks off when Ryudo, a rude-but-experienced mercenary, is hired by the Church of Granas to act as a bodyguard to one of their most valuable Songstresses: Elena, a young and idealistic nun who is taking part in a ritual to renew [[SealedEvilInACan the seal on one of the pieces of an evil fallen god]].

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The plot kicks off when Ryudo, a rude-but-experienced mercenary, is hired by the Church of Granas to act as a bodyguard to one of their most valuable Songstresses: Elena, a young and idealistic nun who is taking part in a ritual to renew [[SealedEvilInACan [[SealedEvilInASixPack the seal on one of the pieces of an evil fallen god]].
2nd Jan '16 3:23:26 PM Redkun
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The plot kicks off when Ryudo, the rude-but-experienced mercenary, is hired by the Church of Granas to act as a bodyguard to one of their most valuable Songstresses: Elena, a young and idealistic nun who is taking part in a ritual to renew [[SealedEvilInACan the seal on one of the pieces of an evil fallen god]].

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The plot kicks off when Ryudo, the a rude-but-experienced mercenary, is hired by the Church of Granas to act as a bodyguard to one of their most valuable Songstresses: Elena, a young and idealistic nun who is taking part in a ritual to renew [[SealedEvilInACan the seal on one of the pieces of an evil fallen god]].
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