History VideoGame / GrandiaII

31st Dec '16 12:25:12 AM ADrago
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* PointOfNoReturn: There are three major points where all access to previous areas is completely cut off for the rest of the game (with a few exceptions). In the last third of the game or so, after [[spoiler:finding the Granasaber]], you go directly from dungeon to dungeon without looking back, so almost everything becomes a PointOfNoReturn. The most significant items that can be LostForever are the last two skill books and the last two mana eggs.

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* PointOfNoReturn: There are three major points where all access to previous areas is completely cut off for the rest of the game (with a few exceptions). In the last third of the game or so, after [[spoiler:finding the Granasaber]], you go directly from dungeon to dungeon without looking back, so almost everything becomes a PointOfNoReturn. The most significant items that can be LostForever {{Permanently Missable|Content}} are the last two skill books and the last two mana eggs.
26th Nov '16 11:36:02 AM Gosicrystal
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* FacelessEye: The Mirumu quest takes this trope UpToEleven.

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[[folder:Tropes F to J]]
* FacelessEye: FacelessEye:
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The Mirumu quest takes this trope UpToEleven.



* FatBastard: Aptly enough, the businessman who's possessed by Valmar's Tongue (with everyone around the guy suffering from starvation).
** [[spoiler:Pope Zera]] is rather rotund, as well.

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* FatBastard: FatBastard:
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Aptly enough, the businessman who's possessed by Valmar's Tongue (with everyone around the guy suffering from starvation).
** [[spoiler:Pope Zera]] is rather rotund, as well.rotund.



* FieryRedhead: Millenia.

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* FieryRedhead: FieryRedhead:
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Millenia.



* FightingFromTheInside: Ryudo [[SwordOverHead raising his sword]] at Elena while [[spoiler:possessed by Valmar's Horn]] - only to resist at the last moment and collapse.

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* FightingFromTheInside: FightingFromTheInside:
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Ryudo [[SwordOverHead raising his sword]] at Elena while [[spoiler:possessed by Valmar's Horn]] - only to resist at the last moment and collapse.



* FinalBossNewDimension: Defeating Valmar's core is just half the battle. Next, Ryudo is drawn into a weird void to battle Valmar's Will (i.e. [[spoiler:Pope Zera]]).






* TheGoomba: Mottled Spider.

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* %%* TheGoomba: Mottled Spider.



* HaveYouSeenMyGod

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* %%* HaveYouSeenMyGod



* ItsAllMyFault: Aira blames her own blindness for her mother's hardships.
** Elena declares this while witnessing the attack on Cyrum by Valmar's monsters, [[spoiler: having been duped into lying to Ryudo and cooperating in the dark god's revival.]] (Justified in that, well, it ''is'' all Elena's fault.)
* ItsUpToYou: None of the guards in Cyrum Castle lift a finger when Melfice tries to restart a robot factory beneath the building. That's because ''it's up to you''.

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* ItsAllMyFault: ItsAllMyFault:
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Aira blames her own blindness for her mother's hardships.
** Elena declares this while witnessing the attack on Cyrum by Valmar's monsters, [[spoiler: having [[spoiler:having been duped into lying to Ryudo and cooperating in the dark god's revival.]] (Justified in that, well, it ''is'' all Elena's fault.)
* ItsUpToYou: ItsUpToYou:
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None of the guards in Cyrum Castle lift a finger when Melfice tries to restart a robot factory beneath the building. That's because ''it's up to you''.



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* MarshmallowHell: Millenia does this to Roan when they first meet. No wonder he took to her so quickly.
** And then Elena does the exact same thing to Roan [[BookEnds in the epilogue]]

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* MarshmallowHell: Millenia does this to Roan when they first meet. No wonder he took to her so quickly.
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quickly. And then Elena does the exact same thing to Roan [[BookEnds in the epilogue]]



* MauveShirt: Elena's friend Tessa is bumped off within a scene of her introduction.

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* MauveShirt: MauveShirt:
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Elena's friend Tessa is bumped off within a scene of her introduction.



-->"Ma'am, we do that to our pets, not [[spoiler:our '''children''']]!"

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-->"Ma'am, --->"Ma'am, we do that to our pets, not [[spoiler:our '''children''']]!"



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[[folder:Tropes P to Z]]



* PropheticName: [[spoiler:Aira]].

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* PropheticName: PropheticName:
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[[spoiler:Aira]].



--> "Beware, evil takes forms far from foul."

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--> ---> "Beware, evil takes forms far from foul."



* SugarApocalypse: Once [[spoiler:Aira]] is taken out of commission, the Garden of Dreams reverts back to a dead wasteland.

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* SugarApocalypse: SugarApocalypse:
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Once [[spoiler:Aira]] is taken out of commission, the Garden of Dreams reverts back to a dead wasteland.



* ThinkNothingOfIt: Cash is welcome, but your gratitude is not. Ryudo likes to distance himself from clingy rescuees, as epitomized when he lifts a curse that brought Liligue to the brink of starvation.
-->"I blame the whole thing on [[SchiffOneLiner bad chefs.]]"
** Everybody in Cyrum showers thanks on [[spoiler: his majesty King]] Roan as he's wandering the town in the epilogue. Roan shrugs this off, since saving the world is no big deal. He's going to be [[spoiler:one hell of a monarch]].

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* ThinkNothingOfIt: ThinkNothingOfIt:
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Cash is welcome, but your gratitude is not. Ryudo likes to distance himself from clingy rescuees, as epitomized when he lifts a curse that brought Liligue to the brink of starvation.
-->"I --->"I blame the whole thing on [[SchiffOneLiner bad chefs.]]"
** Everybody in Cyrum showers thanks on [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his majesty King]] Roan as he's wandering the town in the epilogue. Roan shrugs this off, since saving the world is no big deal. He's going to be [[spoiler:one hell of a monarch]].



* TooSpicyForYogSothoth: Played quite literally with Valmar's Tongue chowing down on our favorite redhead. Ptooey!

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* TooSpicyForYogSothoth: TooSpicyForYogSothoth:
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Played quite literally with Valmar's Tongue chowing down on our favorite redhead. Ptooey!



** FinalBossNewDimension: Defeating Valmar's core is just half the battle. Next, Ryudo is drawn into a weird void to battle Valmar's Will (i.e. [[spoiler:Pope Zera]]).
* TheVillainMakesThePlot

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** FinalBossNewDimension: Defeating Valmar's core is just half the battle. Next, Ryudo is drawn into a weird void to battle Valmar's Will (i.e. [[spoiler:Pope Zera]]).
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%%* TheVillainMakesThePlot


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19th Nov '16 8:25:53 AM MrFebreze
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* TalkingInYourSleep: Thanks to the massive amount of flavor text in the game, you can track Mirimu's sleep victims as Valmar drains their life force. First they're confused, then they start imagining themselves as fairies in a garden, and suddenly they're chatting and giggling amongst the others like a drunken man.

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* TalkingInYourSleep: Thanks to the massive amount of flavor text in the game, you can track Mirimu's Mirumu's sleep victims as Valmar drains their life force. First they're confused, then they start imagining themselves as fairies in a garden, and suddenly they're chatting and giggling amongst the others like a drunken man.
25th Oct '16 3:56:17 PM nombretomado
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* ShoutOut: The localization team had some fun with this one since the original ''Grandia'''s sound mixing was done by Skywalker Sounds, GeorgeLucas' audio division.

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* ShoutOut: The localization team had some fun with this one since the original ''Grandia'''s sound mixing was done by Skywalker Sounds, GeorgeLucas' Creator/GeorgeLucas' audio division.
2nd Sep '16 10:30:03 AM Generality
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* GratuitousForeignLanguage: All the singing in the game is Portuguese, although you'd never know it, as the words have been converted into Japanese-friendly syllables and sung by people with no knowledge of Portuguese.
26th Aug '16 6:51:57 PM Lightblade
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* SinInvitesPossession: Subverted: At first, it seems the people possessed by the [[SealedEvilInASixPack pieces of Valmar]] are guilty of some vice, such as the wealthy trade magnate who becomes a gluttonous blob while his employees starve. Gradually, it comes to light that Valmar can possess anyone who possesses strong desire, such as a young girl's desire to make the people of her village happy, and can as easily infect the innocent and good as the false and wicked.
25th Aug '16 5:14:56 PM Generality
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* InfinitePlusOneSword: The Granasaber is all set up to be one of these. [[spoiler: But it turns out to be a spaceship no one could possibly wield.]] Ryudo gets a more usable version in the climax, but it's only a change to his character model and doesn't affect gameplay.
25th Aug '16 5:11:53 PM Generality
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler: Zera]] becomes increasingly unhinged as the heroes lay waste to his various forms, to the extent that his final form screams inanely about his own perfection while [[AnticlimaxBoss getting utterly thrashed]].
16th Aug '16 3:57:34 PM Generality
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: A subtle form in the St. Heim Papal State. There are three official versions of the story of the Battle of Good and Evil. The first is a watered-down tale for children. The second, located in the library, is written in modern language and tells the story in slightly greater detail but skips over a lot of specifics. The third is written in highly obtuse and archaic poetic style, which makes it almost impossible to interpret, but a careful reading suggests [[spoiler: That Granas did not win the battle]].



* GameBreakingBug: Millenia's Zap! ability may cause game to freeze.

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* GameBreakingBug: Millenia's Zap! ability may cause the game to freeze.
9th May '16 5:34:53 PM CybranGeneralSturm
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* HeroicSacrifice: During the heroes' flight from [[spoiler:the surface of Valmar's moon]], they get attacked by waves of extremely weak mooks and a couple of tanky [[SubBoss Sub Bosses]] until [[spoiler:Mareg]] is inexplicably struck in the back by a flying insect's tusk.

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* HeroicSacrifice: During the heroes' flight from [[spoiler:the surface of Valmar's moon]], they get attacked by waves of extremely weak mooks and a couple of tanky [[SubBoss [[MiniBoss Sub Bosses]] until [[spoiler:Mareg]] is inexplicably struck in the back by a flying insect's tusk.
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