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Although the example points out the dum dum rounds as the specific example, the laws of war generally state that the user of altered projectiles is not permitted, including the use of glass projectiles.

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Although the example points out the dum dum rounds as the specific example, the laws of war generally state that the user use of altered projectiles is not permitted, including the use of glass projectiles.

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These bullets, which expand in a person's body, are prohibited in formal warfare, but allowed in domestic law enforcement and actually required in some jurisdictions for hunting. Their downsides are that they have poor performance against armor and barriers as well as sometimes not expanding correctly. In addition, automatic or semi-automatic weapons capable of reliably feeding hollowpoints are a relatively recent invention. Their upsides is their relatively low chance of over-penetration (and hitting something [[AccidentalMurder BEHIND]] your target) and of course increased stopping effectiveness.

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These bullets, which expand in a person's body, are prohibited in formal warfare, but allowed in domestic law enforcement and actually required in some jurisdictions for hunting. Their downsides are that they have poor performance against armor and barriers as well as sometimes not expanding correctly. In addition, automatic or semi-automatic weapons capable of reliably feeding hollowpoints are a relatively recent invention. Their upsides is their relatively low chance of over-penetration (and hitting something [[AccidentalMurder BEHIND]] ''[[AccidentalMurder behind]]'' your target) and of course increased stopping effectiveness.


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*** Depending on the instructor, a recruit may alternately be required to introduce themselves, or recite various other memorized information or answer questions. In addition to make sure they don't hold their breath, it ensures that they can keep a cool head under pressure. If they panic, or drop any of their gear, they get to try again. For obvious reasons, a nerve toxin attack is the last place you want to [[{{Pun}} lose your nerve]].
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*** With the gear off, they're ordered to sing the Star Spangled Banner. Because, hey, it shows just how detrimental the chemicals are.

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*** With the gear off, they're ordered to sing the Star Spangled Banner. Because, hey, it shows just how detrimental the chemicals are. Sarcasm aside, they are told to sing to make sure no one is holding their breath.
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Only those who actually fight are combatants. [[WouldNotShootACivilian Civilians are not legitimate targets]]. Furthermore, combatants who have laid down their arms or become ''[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown hors de combat]]'' must be treated humanely. However, should a combatant deliberately disguise themselves as a noncombatant or attempt to hide among noncombatants, they become categorized as Unlawful Combatants and the situation becomes much less pleasant.

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Only those who actually fight are combatants. [[WouldNotShootACivilian Civilians are not legitimate targets]]. Furthermore, combatants who have laid down their arms or become ''[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown hors de combat]]'' combat]]'', including those who [[SinkTheLifeBoats are leaving sinking ships or parachuting from planes]], must be treated humanely. However, should a combatant deliberately disguise themselves as a noncombatant or attempt to hide among noncombatants, they become categorized as Unlawful Combatants and the situation becomes much less pleasant. \n PlayingPossum is a war crime because it discourages people from obeying this law and custom.



It is a war crime to state that soldiers cannot surrender or not to take prisoners.

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It is a war crime to state that soldiers cannot surrender or [[LeaveNoSurvivors not to take prisoners.
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Once taken to a camp (these have to be designated in a way that aircraft can see them and should be well away from the front line), prisoners are to be well treated. They are allowed to write letters home and receive them, the Red Cross can send them parcels with food and religious freedom is allowed. You also are allowed pay in line with your rank. In addition, prisoners that attempt to escape are merely fulfilling their roles as prisoners: if they escape, it's because the prison was poorly designed, and if they don't, they are still prisoners, and therefore still protected.

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Once taken to a camp (these have to be designated in a way that aircraft can see them and should be well away from the front line), prisoners are to be well treated. They are allowed to write letters home and receive them, the Red Cross can send them parcels with food and religious freedom is allowed. You also are allowed pay in line with your rank. In addition, prisoners that attempt to escape are merely fulfilling their roles as prisoners: if they escape, it's because the prison was poorly designed, and if they don't, they are still prisoners, and therefore still protected.
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Once taken to a camp (these have to be designated in a way that aircraft can see them and should be well away from the front line), prisoners are to be well treated. They are allowed to write letters home and receive them, the Red Cross can send them parcels with food and religious freedom is allowed. You also are allowed pay in line with your rank.

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Once taken to a camp (these have to be designated in a way that aircraft can see them and should be well away from the front line), prisoners are to be well treated. They are allowed to write letters home and receive them, the Red Cross can send them parcels with food and religious freedom is allowed. You also are allowed pay in line with your rank.
rank. In addition, prisoners that attempt to escape are merely fulfilling their roles as prisoners: if they escape, it's because the prison was poorly designed, and if they don't, they are still prisoners, and therefore still protected.
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War is hell, but there are some things you just don't do. Many things are allowed as ruses, even the aforementioned FalseFlagOperations, but even in war, this doesn't fly. Certain symbols are completely OFF LIMITS unless you're using them legitimately. These ''especially'' include the Red Cross/Crescent/Crystal and the UN logo. Note that if the UN is running a military operation (e.g. TheKoreanWar), you're allowed to use their logo on your tank ... it's when the UN doesn't give you permission and you use it that you're running afoul of Article 38.

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War is hell, but there are some things you just don't do. Many things are allowed as ruses, even the aforementioned FalseFlagOperations, {{False Flag Operation}}s, but even in war, this doesn't fly. Certain symbols are completely OFF LIMITS unless you're using them legitimately. These ''especially'' include the Red Cross/Crescent/Crystal and the UN logo. Note that if the UN is running a military operation (e.g. TheKoreanWar), you're allowed to use their logo on your tank ... it's when the UN doesn't give you permission and you use it that you're running afoul of Article 38.
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There might be a clear winner or loser at the end of an armistice; what matters is that the sides have ''only'' agreed to stop fighting until further notice. Generally speaking, an armistice is when the war has ''clearly'' ended. Usually, [[PeaceConference peace talks]] and a peace treaty immediately follow but the term "peace treaty" is something of a misnomer: a peace treaty is actually about restoring (or establishing) diplomatic recognition and ties, as well as settling at least some of the disputes that led to the war in the first place (generally in the victor's favor).

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There might be a clear winner or loser at the end of an armistice; what matters is that the sides have ''only'' agreed to stop fighting until further notice. Generally speaking, an armistice is when the war has ''clearly'' ended. Usually, [[PeaceConference peace talks]] and a peace treaty immediately follow but the term "peace treaty" is something of a misnomer: a peace treaty is actually about restoring (or establishing) diplomatic recognition and ties, as well as settling at least some of the disputes that led to the war in the first place (generally ([[CaptainObvious generally in the victor's favor).favor]]).

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Some edits and additions - prisoners do not salute, especially the enemy.


Although the example points out the dum dum rounds as the specific example, the laws of war generally state that the user of altered projectiles is not permitted, including the use of glass projectiles.



Once the other side captures you, they are allowed to search you and restrain you. They can confiscate your horses (these are still used in Pakistan), weaponry and any military documents.

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Once the other side captures you, they are allowed to search you and restrain you. They can confiscate your horses (these are still used in Pakistan), weaponry and any military documents.
documents. However, a prisoner must be permitted to retain his personal protective equipment, such as helmets and gas masks. And, once a prison has been captured, his health, safety, and well-being is the responsibility of his captors.



The only things that you are obliged to tell the people capturing you are your name, rank, serial (or service) number and date of birth. The US permits provision of relevant health and welfare information too. Telling them more will probably result in a court-martial if and when you get home.

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The only things that you are obliged to tell the people capturing you are your name, rank, serial (or service) number and date of birth. The US permits provision of relevant health and welfare information too. Telling them more will probably may result in a court-martial if and when you get home.



Once taken to a camp (these have to be designated in a way that aircraft can see them and should be well away from the front line), prisoners are to be well treated. They are allowed to write letters home and receive them, the Red Cross can send them parcels with food in, and religious freedom is allowed. You also are allowed pay in line with your rank, but also salute your higher-ranked captors and the camp commandant.

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Once taken to a camp (these have to be designated in a way that aircraft can see them and should be well away from the front line), prisoners are to be well treated. They are allowed to write letters home and receive them, the Red Cross can send them parcels with food in, and religious freedom is allowed. You also are allowed pay in line with your rank, but also salute your higher-ranked captors and the camp commandant.
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* Medical and religious personnel are exempt from the requirement to attempt to escape, as their specialties are more valuable to the remaining prisoners than the harm done by their escape.
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The only things that you are obliged to tell the people capturing you are your name, rank, serial (or service) number and age. The US permits provision of relevant health and welfare information too. Telling them more will probably result in a court-martial if and when you get home.

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The only things that you are obliged to tell the people capturing you are your name, rank, serial (or service) number and age.date of birth. The US permits provision of relevant health and welfare information too. Telling them more will probably result in a court-martial if and when you get home.




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* In training for preparation for the eventual capture in Iraq, soldiers have been taught not to antagonize their interrogators and to give cooperative, although not helpful answers rather than lies, which may be used against the prisoners later.
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There are several quasi military jobs that were taken into uniformed services to give protection under the Geneva convention to those workers. Otherwise they were unlawful combatants and possibly spies. The Public Health and NOAA Corps are American examples of battlefield surverors and ambulence personal put in a uniform to give them protection on a battlefield.

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There are several quasi military jobs that were taken into uniformed services to give protection under the Geneva convention to those workers. Otherwise they were unlawful combatants and possibly spies. The Public Health and NOAA Corps are American examples of battlefield surverors surveyors and ambulence ambulance personal put in a uniform to give them protection on a battlefield.
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War is hell, but there are some things you just don't do. Many things are allowed as ruses, even the aforementioned false flag operations, but even in war, this doesn't fly. Certain symbols are completely OFF LIMITS unless you're using them legitimately. These ''especially'' include the Red Cross/Crescent/Crystal and the UN logo. Note that if the UN is running a military operation (e.g. TheKoreanWar), you're allowed to use their logo on your tank ... it's when the UN doesn't give you permission and you use it that you're running afoul of Article 38.

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War is hell, but there are some things you just don't do. Many things are allowed as ruses, even the aforementioned false flag operations, FalseFlagOperations, but even in war, this doesn't fly. Certain symbols are completely OFF LIMITS unless you're using them legitimately. These ''especially'' include the Red Cross/Crescent/Crystal and the UN logo. Note that if the UN is running a military operation (e.g. TheKoreanWar), you're allowed to use their logo on your tank ... it's when the UN doesn't give you permission and you use it that you're running afoul of Article 38.
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* However, as Lawful Combatants can still be tried for any criminal offences they commit in the execution of their duty (rape, theft ect) if they use uniforms other than their own to gather intelligence/spread despondency or falsehoods within the ranks of their enemies, they may be tried for espionage and, if found guilty, shot or otherwise punished as per the laws of the nation that has captured them.

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* However, as Lawful Combatants can still be tried for any criminal offences they commit in the execution of their duty (rape, theft ect) theft, etc.) if they use uniforms other than their own to gather intelligence/spread despondency or falsehoods within the ranks of their enemies, they may be tried for espionage and, if found guilty, shot or otherwise punished as per the laws of the nation that has captured them.
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-->The (Third) Geneva Convention (of 12 August 1949), Article 4.A(2), defines a Lawful Combatant as "(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; (b) that of having fixed distinctive insignia recognizable at a distance; (c) that of carrying arms openly; and (d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar the laws and customs of war]]."

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-->The (Third) Geneva Convention (of 12 August 1949), Article 4.A(2), defines a Lawful Combatant as "(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; (b) that of having fixed distinctive insignia recognizable at a distance; (c) that of carrying arms openly; and (d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar [[TitleDrop the laws and customs of war]]."
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* Since the experience of American POWs in the Vietnam War, it has been recognized that pretty much anyone under torture ''will'' break at some point, even if only to make up crap to make it stop. Many military forces now teach their troops to not give anything the enemy anything more than legally required, and if tortured to try and minimize the information they give but not at the cost of their own lives.
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Match grade ammunition (such as Sierra Match-King) often contains a thin hollow nose for ballistics reasons, but since it's wound profile is not noticeably different from a normal FMJ wound, the U.S. military has authorized its use.

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Match grade ammunition (such as Sierra Match-King) often contains a thin hollow nose for ballistics reasons, but since it's its wound profile is not noticeably different from a normal FMJ wound, the U.S. military has authorized its use.

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\"No quarter\" flags were actually red.


In 1899, the Hague Convention stipulated that bullets must have a FullMetalJacket, banning dum-dums and other un/semi jacketed rounds.

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In 1899, the Hague Convention stipulated that bullets must have not be designed to expand or flatten within the body, causing grievous harm. This has been a FullMetalJacket, banning dum-dums contentious point, as modern rifle calibers often yaw or tumble within tissue due to their velocity and other un/semi jacketed rounds.
shape, and this behavior has been encouraged with both 5.56x45mm NATO and 5.45x39 rounds by selectively weakening the full metal jacket in certain portions or the addition of an air pocket.



These bullets, which expand in a person's body, are prohibited in formal warfare, but allowed in domestic law enforcement and actually required in some jurisdictions for hunting. Their downsides are that they have poor performance against armor and barriers as well as sometimes not expanding correctly. Their upsides is their relatively low chance of over-penetration (and hitting something [[AccidentalMurder BEHIND]] your target) and of course increased stopping effectiveness.

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These bullets, which expand in a person's body, are prohibited in formal warfare, but allowed in domestic law enforcement and actually required in some jurisdictions for hunting. Their downsides are that they have poor performance against armor and barriers as well as sometimes not expanding correctly. In addition, automatic or semi-automatic weapons capable of reliably feeding hollowpoints are a relatively recent invention. Their upsides is their relatively low chance of over-penetration (and hitting something [[AccidentalMurder BEHIND]] your target) and of course increased stopping effectiveness.
effectiveness.

Match grade ammunition (such as Sierra Match-King) often contains a thin hollow nose for ballistics reasons, but since it's wound profile is not noticeably different from a normal FMJ wound, the U.S. military has authorized its use.



* It is, interestingly enough, perfectly OK to use tear gas on your OWN troops, for training purposes. As an example, both the US Army and Air Force have trainees stand in a gas chamber pumping out tear gas to show them that their chemical warfare protective gear will protect them.

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* It is, interestingly enough, perfectly OK to use tear gas on your OWN troops, for training purposes. As an example, both all branches of the US Army and Air Force military have trainees stand in a gas chamber pumping out tear gas to show them that their chemical warfare protective gear will protect them.



There are several quasi military jobs that were taken into uniformed services to give protection under the geneva convention to those workers. Otherwise they were unlawful combatants and possibly spies. The Public Health and NOAA Corps are American examples of battlefield surverors and ambulence personal put in a uniform to give them protection on a battlefield.

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There are several quasi military jobs that were taken into uniformed services to give protection under the geneva Geneva convention to those workers. Otherwise they were unlawful combatants and possibly spies. The Public Health and NOAA Corps are American examples of battlefield surverors and ambulence personal put in a uniform to give them protection on a battlefield.



* Black flags are often used for this purpose. This caused some awkwardness when Iraqis tried to surrender to Americans who were unaware of the custom. (mostly because it mean "No Mercy" in Europe, hence why pirate flags are black)

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* Black flags are often used for this purpose. This caused some awkwardness when Iraqis tried to surrender to Americans who were unaware of the custom. (mostly because it mean "No Mercy" in Europe, hence why pirate flags are black)\n
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*** With the gear off, they're ordered to sing the Star Spangled Banner. Because, hey, it shows just how detrimental the chemicals are.
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There are several quasi military jobs that were taken into uniformed services to give protection under the geneva convention to those workers. Otherwise they were unlawful combatants and possibly spies. The Public Health and NOAA Corps are American examples of battlefield surverors and ambulence personal put in a uniform to give them protection on a battlefield.
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The 1949 version also covers spontaneous resistance movements, even not in uniform, if their conduct abides by the laws and customs of war. So captured members of LaResistance, provided they themselves avoid the usage of terror tactics proscribed under the Geneva Conventions, are also supposed to be treated as legitimate [=POWs=].

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The 1949 version also covers spontaneous resistance movements, even not in uniform, if their conduct abides by the laws and customs of war. So captured members of LaResistance, provided However, they themselves are not exempt from the four basic requirements at the top of this subheading and most classic resistance movements deliberately avoid the usage of terror tactics proscribed under the Geneva Conventions, are also supposed using uniforms or identifying symbols, thus forfeiting their protection and leaving them liable to be treated shot as legitimate [=POWs=].
spies or saboteurs. Many resistance actions, such as sabotage or bombing, also fail to be 'carrying arms openly'. A resistance movement that did fulfill all the requirements, even just to the point of using colored armbands during their overt attacks, should still qualify.
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Geneva III, Article 4, subsection A2


Only those who actually fight are combatants. [[WouldNotShootACivilian Civilians are not legitimate targets]]. Furthermore, combatants who have laid down their arms or become ''[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown hors de combat]]'' must be treated humanely. However, should a civilian take up weapons and become a combatant, or a combatant deliberately disguise themselves as a civilian, they become categorized as Unlawful Combatants and the situation becomes much less pleasant.
* The first part of that last sentence is a uniquely Bush-era American view on the Geneva Conventions. The full text of the Conventions states that it is perfecly OK for a civilian to take up arms against an invading army.

Aircrew escaping from a doomed plane are not to be fired upon, as they are already out of the fight and now completely helpless to defend themselves. In the European Theatre in WWII, any pilot who intentionally fired at parachuting aircrews in sight of the enemy effectively [[BerserkButton signed their own death warrant]]. Any enemy fighter pilots in the area would ditch all other priorities just to take the son of a bitch down

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Only those who actually fight are combatants. [[WouldNotShootACivilian Civilians are not legitimate targets]]. Furthermore, combatants who have laid down their arms or become ''[[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown hors de combat]]'' must be treated humanely. However, should a civilian take up weapons and become a combatant, or a combatant deliberately disguise themselves as a civilian, noncombatant or attempt to hide among noncombatants, they become categorized as Unlawful Combatants and the situation becomes much less pleasant.
* The first part of that last sentence is a uniquely Bush-era American view on
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While civilians are allowed by
the Geneva Conventions. The full text of the Conventions states that it is perfecly OK for a civilian to take up arms as militia against an invading army.

army, they must still abide by the Geneva Conventions in their own behavior, be "carrying arms openly", and do their best to have "a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance" in order to still enjoy the protection of the Geneva Conventions for themselves. The intent of this particular section of the Geneva Conventions is to make the distinction between 'combatant' and 'noncombatant' immediately obvious at a distance; to try and minimize noncombatant casualties by letting the enemy be able to know which people are fighting him and which ones are just bystanders. The 'illegal combatant' distinction generally comes into play when that distinction is deliberately being abused.

Aircrew escaping from a doomed plane are not to be fired upon, as they are already out of the fight and now completely helpless to defend themselves. In the European Theatre in WWII, any pilot who intentionally fired at parachuting aircrews in sight of the enemy effectively [[BerserkButton signed their own death warrant]]. Any enemy fighter pilots in the area would ditch all other priorities just to take the son of a bitch down
down.
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Let\'s not go there, SG_man_forever.


* However, as has been made publicly known, the Bush Administration decided to use waterboarding on captured enemy combatants, and have given rather [[RichardNixon Nixonian]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem answers]] as to why [[EnhancedInterrogationTechniques it isn't torture]], cheifly amongst them Condoleeza Rice's explanation: "We were told, [[BlatantLies nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]. [[{{Wallbanger}} And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president]], [[YouFailLogicForever it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]."

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* However, as has been made publicly known, the Bush Administration decided to use waterboarding on captured enemy combatants, and have given rather [[RichardNixon Nixonian]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem answers]] as to why [[EnhancedInterrogationTechniques it isn't torture]], cheifly amongst them Condoleeza Rice's explanation: "We were told, [[BlatantLies nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]. [[{{Wallbanger}} And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president]], [[YouFailLogicForever it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]."
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Aircrew escaping from a doomed plane are not to be fired upon, as they are already out of the fight and now completely helpless to defend themselves. In the European Theatre in WWII, any pilot who intentionally fired at parachuting aircrews in sight of the enemy effectively [[BerzerkButton signed their own death warrant]]. Any enemy fighter pilots in the area would ditch all other priorities just to take the son of a bitch down

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Aircrew escaping from a doomed plane are not to be fired upon, as they are already out of the fight and now completely helpless to defend themselves. In the European Theatre in WWII, any pilot who intentionally fired at parachuting aircrews in sight of the enemy effectively [[BerzerkButton [[BerserkButton signed their own death warrant]]. Any enemy fighter pilots in the area would ditch all other priorities just to take the son of a bitch down
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It\'s not that shooting is to kill as much as that a wound doesn\'t stop someone well.


These bullets, which expand in a person's body, are prohibited in formal warfare, but allowed in domestic law enforcement and actually required in some jurisdictions for hunting. Their downsides are that they have poor performance against armor and barriers as well as sometimes not expanding correctly. Their upsides is their relatively low chance of over-penetration (and hitting something [[AccidentalMurder BEHIND]] your target) and of course increased lethality (formal firearms training prohibits shooting to wound, as a firearm is a lethal weapon.)

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These bullets, which expand in a person's body, are prohibited in formal warfare, but allowed in domestic law enforcement and actually required in some jurisdictions for hunting. Their downsides are that they have poor performance against armor and barriers as well as sometimes not expanding correctly. Their upsides is their relatively low chance of over-penetration (and hitting something [[AccidentalMurder BEHIND]] your target) and of course increased lethality (formal firearms training prohibits shooting to wound, as a firearm is a lethal weapon.)
stopping effectiveness.
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\n* The first part of that last sentence is a uniquely Bush-era American view on the Geneva Conventions. The full text of the Conventions states that it is perfecly OK for a civilian to take up arms against an invading army.
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* However, as has been made publicly known, the Bush Administration decided to use waterboarding on captured enemy combatants, and have given rather [[RichardNixon Nixonian]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem answers]] as to why [[EnhancedInterrogationTechniques it isn't torture]], cheifly amongst them Condoleeza Rice's explanation: "We were told, nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture. [[Wallbanger And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president]], [[YouFailLogicForever it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]."

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* However, as has been made publicly known, the Bush Administration decided to use waterboarding on captured enemy combatants, and have given rather [[RichardNixon Nixonian]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem answers]] as to why [[EnhancedInterrogationTechniques it isn't torture]], cheifly amongst them Condoleeza Rice's explanation: "We were told, [[BlatantLies nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture. [[Wallbanger Torture]]. [[{{Wallbanger}} And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president]], [[YouFailLogicForever it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]."
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** However, as has been made publicly known, the Bush Administration decided to use waterboarding on captured enemy combatants, and have given rather [[RichardNixon Nixonian]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem answers]] as to why [[EnhancedInterrogationTechniques it isn't torture]], cheifly amongst them Condoleeza Rice's explanation: "We were told, nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture. [[Wallbanger And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president]], [[YouFailLogicForever it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]."

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** * However, as has been made publicly known, the Bush Administration decided to use waterboarding on captured enemy combatants, and have given rather [[RichardNixon Nixonian]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem answers]] as to why [[EnhancedInterrogationTechniques it isn't torture]], cheifly amongst them Condoleeza Rice's explanation: "We were told, nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture. [[Wallbanger And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president]], [[YouFailLogicForever it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]."
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** However, as has been made publicly known, the Bush Administration decided to use waterboarding on captured enemy combatants, and have given rather [[RichardNixon Nixonian]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem answers]] as to why [[EnhancedInterrogationTechniques it isn't torture]], cheifly amongst them Condoleeza Rice's explanation: "We were told, nothing that violates our obligations under the Convention Against Torture. [[Wallbanger And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president]], [[YouFailLogicForever it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture]]."
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Note that war has usually been governed by some sort of law or custom throughout history, but they differ in various times and places. As noted below, the Geneva Conventions recognize the right of a POW to attempt to escape. During the Napoleonic Wars, as an example, if a captured officer swore an oath to his captors that he would return home and no longer participate in the war until its resolution, he was honour-bound to keep his word. Many imperialist victories throughout history can be attributed to two different sets of customs regarding war coming to a head.

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Note that war has usually been governed by some sort of law or custom throughout history, but they differ in various times and places. As noted below, the Geneva Conventions recognize the right of a POW to attempt to escape. During the Napoleonic Wars, as an example, if a captured officer swore [[ThePromise an oath oath]] to his captors that he would return home and no longer participate in the war until its resolution, he was honour-bound to [[IGaveMyWord keep his word.word]]. Many imperialist victories throughout history can be attributed to two different sets of customs regarding war coming to a head.
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Note that war has usually been governed by some sort of law or custom throughout history, but they differ in various times and places. As noted below, the Geneva Conventions recognize the right of a POW to attempt to escape. During the Napoleonic Wars, as an example, if a captured officer swore an oath to his captors that he would return home and no longer participate in the war until its resolution, he was honour-bound to keep his word. Many imperialist victories throughout history can be attributed to two different sets of customs regarding war coming to a head.

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