History UsefulNotes / TheGoldenRule

7th Dec '17 11:23:33 PM Theriocephalus
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Also known as "the universal rule," '''The Golden Rule''' seem to exist in all cultures. Likely to predate written language, the earliest texts known to contain it are over 4,000 years old. Most religions and philosophers use one of the many different versions somewhere in their moral codes - see the [[Quotes/TheGoldenRule quotes page]].

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Also known as "the universal rule," '''The rule", '''the Golden Rule''' seem seems to exist in all cultures. Likely to predate written language, the earliest texts known to contain it are over 4,000 years old. Most religions and philosophers use one of the many different versions somewhere in their moral codes - -- see the [[Quotes/TheGoldenRule quotes page]].



While most people associate Christianity's take on The Golden Rule with Jesus' Sermon On The Mount, the principle is deeply rooted in the Old Testament as well. The law of Moses include "Love your neighbor as yourself", and in the new testament Jesus highlights this as the second most important commandment in the law (dwarfed only by the law to love God with all your heart.) [[note]]And some interpretations have those two laws as being equal, or both necessary for the fulfilment of the other i.e. you cannot love God if you do not love your neighbor, as love for God implies respect and care for his creation, of which humanity would be a subset.[[/note]] Apocrypha such as Tobit includes outright formulations of The Golden Rule.

Also, the rule "An [[PayEvilUntoEvil eye for an eye]], a tooth for a tooth" ''can'' be interpreted as a rule of mercy, and thus related to The Golden Rule:\\
Eschew DisproportionateRetribution, don't hurt your enemies ''more'' then they have already hurt you." Literature/TheTalmud states that the golden rule is "the greatest rule in the Torah".

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While most people associate Christianity's take on The Golden Rule with Jesus' Sermon On The on the Mount, the principle is deeply rooted in the Old Testament as well. The law of Moses include "Love your neighbor as yourself", and in the new testament Jesus highlights this as the second most important commandment in the law (dwarfed only by the law to love God with all your heart.) [[note]]And some interpretations have those two laws as being equal, or both necessary for the fulfilment of the other i.e. you cannot love God if you do not love your neighbor, as love for God implies respect and care for his creation, of which humanity would be a subset.[[/note]] Apocrypha such as Tobit includes outright formulations of The Golden Rule.

Also, the rule "An [[PayEvilUntoEvil eye for an eye]], a tooth for a tooth" ''can'' be interpreted as a rule of mercy, and thus related to The the Golden Rule:\\
Eschew DisproportionateRetribution, don't hurt your enemies ''more'' then they have already hurt you." Literature/TheTalmud states that the golden rule Golden Rule is "the greatest rule in the Torah".



There are many references to The Golden Rule in scriptures unique to Islam, and it should be noted that the old testament of the Bible as well as Jesus' sermon on the mount in the new testament counts as holy in Islam. (Muslims believe in Jesus, it's just that they consider him a mortal prophet of God - and thus feel that Christians insult Jesus when they claim that he ''is'' God.)

In Islam, Muhammed is considered the most important prophet because he was the ''last'' prophet. Ba'hai takes the same train of thought one step further, claiming that Muhammed was actually only the last prophet until the next prophet, and that there will always be new prophets. Perhaps more focused on TheGoldenRule then any other Abrahamaic religion, Ba'hai highlights the rule as a common ground for all prophets. They thus consider the struggle against racism, sexism etc. to be one of the most important ways of doing God's will. Many individual Jewish, Christian and Muslim congregations takes the same stand: what makes Ba'hai unique is that the entire religion highlights The Golden Rule in this way.

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There are many references to The the Golden Rule in scriptures unique to Islam, and it should be noted that the old testament of the Bible as well as Jesus' sermon Sermon on the mount Mount in the new testament counts as holy in Islam. (Muslims believe in Jesus, it's just that they consider him a mortal prophet of God - -- and thus feel that Christians insult Jesus when they claim that he ''is'' God.)

In Islam, Muhammed is considered the most important prophet because he was the ''last'' prophet. Ba'hai takes the same train of thought one step further, claiming that Muhammed was actually only the last prophet until the next prophet, and that there will always be new prophets. Perhaps more focused on TheGoldenRule then any other Abrahamaic religion, Ba'hai highlights the rule as a common ground for all prophets. They thus consider the struggle against racism, sexism etc. to be one of the most important ways of doing God's will. Many individual Jewish, Christian and Muslim congregations takes the same stand: what makes Ba'hai unique is that the entire religion highlights The the Golden Rule in this way.



These religions believe in The Golden Rule not only as a law or moral principle, but ''also'' as an unstoppable force of nature. [[CallItKarma Karma]] works in mysterious ways, and all the good and bad things we do to others will come back to us if not in this life, then in the next one. Likewise, whatever happens to us now is a reflection of how we treated others in the past. If we are fortunate enough to be born to kind and affluent parents that give us a good childhood, then that's because we treated others well in the previous lifetime. But if we squander this reward on a selfish lifestyle, then we won't do so well the next time.

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These religions believe in The the Golden Rule not only as a law or moral principle, but ''also'' as an unstoppable force of nature. [[CallItKarma Karma]] works in mysterious ways, and all the good and bad things we do to others will come back to us -- if not in this life, then in the next one. Likewise, whatever happens to us now is a reflection of how we treated others in the past. If we are fortunate enough to be born to kind and affluent parents that give us a good childhood, then that's because we treated others well in the previous lifetime. But if we squander this reward on a selfish lifestyle, then we won't do so well the next time.time.
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7th Dec '17 11:19:11 PM Theriocephalus
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For the spirit of The Golden Rule to work in the more theoretical thinking of modern philosophy, it needed to be upgraded to a more advanced formulation. Immanuel Kant was the philosopher who took on this project, developing formulations designed to be more foolproof.

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For the spirit of The the Golden Rule to work in the more theoretical thinking of modern philosophy, it needed to be upgraded to a more advanced formulation. Immanuel Kant was the philosopher who took on this project, developing formulations designed to be more foolproof.



** Immanuel Kant, second formulation of the categorical imperative
** This formulation does away with a lot of possible semantic loopholes, including the first four strawman versions mentioned above. Of course the categorical imperative can be strawmanned as well, but it's not as easy.

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** Immanuel Kant, second formulation of the categorical imperative
imperative.
** This formulation does away with a lot of possible semantic loopholes, including the first four strawman versions mentioned above. Of course the The categorical imperative can be strawmanned as well, of course, but it's not as easy.



** According to Kant, this quote have the same meaning as the quotes above.

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** According to Kant, this quote have has the same meaning as the quotes above.



Also, the rule "An [[PayEvilUntoEvil eye for an eye]], a tooth for a tooth" ''can'' be interpreted as a rule of mercy, and thus related to The Golden Rule:

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Also, the rule "An [[PayEvilUntoEvil eye for an eye]], a tooth for a tooth" ''can'' be interpreted as a rule of mercy, and thus related to The Golden Rule: Rule:\\
24th Nov '17 10:22:40 AM nombretomado
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# Technically, you can treat others any way as long as you don't recognize that they are "others" in the sense of having anything in common with you. Psychopaths, who tend to believe other people are not real, can commit a murder or murders without going against the golden rule as they understand it. (Flaw: The Golden Rule stipulates that others exist, by its nature. For philosophies that admit the possibility that others do ''not'' exist, see UsefulNotes/{{Solipsism}} and certain forms of {{Existentialism}}.)

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# Technically, you can treat others any way as long as you don't recognize that they are "others" in the sense of having anything in common with you. Psychopaths, who tend to believe other people are not real, can commit a murder or murders without going against the golden rule as they understand it. (Flaw: The Golden Rule stipulates that others exist, by its nature. For philosophies that admit the possibility that others do ''not'' exist, see UsefulNotes/{{Solipsism}} and certain forms of {{Existentialism}}.UsefulNotes/{{Existentialism}}.)
11th Nov '15 6:55:21 AM Fireblood
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There are many references to The Golden Rule in scriptures unique to Islam, and it should be noted that the old testament of the Bible as well as Jesus' sermon on the mount in the new testament counts as holy in Islam. (Moslems believe in Jesus, it's just that they consider him a mortal prophet of God - and thus feel that Christians insult Jesus when they claim that he ''is'' God.)

In Islam, Muhammed is considered the most important prophet because he was the ''last'' prophet. Ba'hai takes the same train of thought one step further, claiming that Muhammed was actually only the last prophet until the next prophet, and that there will always be new prophets. Perhaps more focused on TheGoldenRule then any other abrahamitic religion, Ba'hai highlights the rule as a common ground for all prophets. They thus consider the struggle against racism, sexism et cetera to be one of the most important ways of doing God's will. Many individual Jewish, Christian and Muslim congregations takes the same stand: What makes Ba'hai unique is that the entire religion highlights The Golden Rule in this way.

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There are many references to The Golden Rule in scriptures unique to Islam, and it should be noted that the old testament of the Bible as well as Jesus' sermon on the mount in the new testament counts as holy in Islam. (Moslems (Muslims believe in Jesus, it's just that they consider him a mortal prophet of God - and thus feel that Christians insult Jesus when they claim that he ''is'' God.)

In Islam, Muhammed is considered the most important prophet because he was the ''last'' prophet. Ba'hai takes the same train of thought one step further, claiming that Muhammed was actually only the last prophet until the next prophet, and that there will always be new prophets. Perhaps more focused on TheGoldenRule then any other abrahamitic Abrahamaic religion, Ba'hai highlights the rule as a common ground for all prophets. They thus consider the struggle against racism, sexism et cetera etc. to be one of the most important ways of doing God's will. Many individual Jewish, Christian and Muslim congregations takes the same stand: What what makes Ba'hai unique is that the entire religion highlights The Golden Rule in this way.
6th Feb '14 2:30:01 PM slvstrChung
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# Technically, you can treat others any way as long as you don't recognize that they are "others" in the sense of having anything in common with you. Psychopaths, who tend to believe other people are not real, can commit a murder or murders without going against the golden rule as they understand it. (Flaw: The Golden Rule stipulates that others exist, by its nature. For philosophies that admit the possibility that others do ''not'' exist, see Solipsism and certain forms of {{Existentialism}}.)

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# Technically, you can treat others any way as long as you don't recognize that they are "others" in the sense of having anything in common with you. Psychopaths, who tend to believe other people are not real, can commit a murder or murders without going against the golden rule as they understand it. (Flaw: The Golden Rule stipulates that others exist, by its nature. For philosophies that admit the possibility that others do ''not'' exist, see Solipsism UsefulNotes/{{Solipsism}} and certain forms of {{Existentialism}}.)
24th Nov '13 2:23:15 PM TheBagel
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!!The worldview problem
Even with the advanced philosophical formulations, The Golden Rule only works if everyone involved can agree on the basics. For example, everyone except the most extreme Nazis agree that Jews, Homosexuals and the mentally handicapped are fellow human beings. Thus we won't accept their claims that the Holocaust was compatible with The Golden Rule (not that all, or even most, Nazi's advanced The Golden Rule in the first place of course). However, everyone except the most extreme [[AnimalWrongsGroup Animal Wrongs Group]] agree that pigs, dogs and cows are ''not'' fellow human beings. Thus [[BlueAndOrangeMorality their claims]] that we all break The Golden Rule [[GodwinsLaw just as badly as the Nazis]] falls on deaf ears.

Obviously, {{Flame War}}s can result from this, as various radicals try to convince you that your definition of "humanity" is inaccurate and you do the same to them. The only surefire way to defuse this (aside from {{Brainwashing}}) is to AgreeToDisagree: everyone has to recognize that "I have my beliefs, and you have yours." See strawman #4 above.
4th Jul '13 10:05:21 AM 313Bluestreak
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Also, the rule "An EyeForAnEye, a tooth for a tooth" ''can'' be interpreted as a rule of mercy, and thus related to The Golden Rule:

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Also, the rule "An EyeForAnEye, [[PayEvilUntoEvil eye for an eye]], a tooth for a tooth" ''can'' be interpreted as a rule of mercy, and thus related to The Golden Rule:
28th May '13 8:04:14 PM Specialist290
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While most people associate Christianity's take on The Golden Rule with Jesus' Sermon On The Mount, the principle is deeply rooted in the Old Testament as well. The law of Moses include "Love your neighbor as yourself", and in the new testament Jesus highlights this as the second most important commandment in the law (dwarfed only by the law to love God with all your heart [[hottip:*:and some interpretations have those two laws as being equal, or both necessary for the fulfilment of the other i.e. you cannot love God if you do not love your neighbor, as love for God implies respect and care for his creation, of which humanity would be a subset.]] .) Apocrypha such as Tobit includes outright formulations of The Golden Rule.

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While most people associate Christianity's take on The Golden Rule with Jesus' Sermon On The Mount, the principle is deeply rooted in the Old Testament as well. The law of Moses include "Love your neighbor as yourself", and in the new testament Jesus highlights this as the second most important commandment in the law (dwarfed only by the law to love God with all your heart [[hottip:*:and heart.) [[note]]And some interpretations have those two laws as being equal, or both necessary for the fulfilment of the other i.e. you cannot love God if you do not love your neighbor, as love for God implies respect and care for his creation, of which humanity would be a subset.]] .) [[/note]] Apocrypha such as Tobit includes outright formulations of The Golden Rule.
28th May '13 8:03:18 PM Specialist290
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While most people associate Christianity's take on The Golden Rule with Jesus' Sermon On The Mount, the principle is deeply rooted in the Old Testament as well. The law of Moses include "Love your neighbor as yourself", and in the new testament Jesus highlights this as the second most important commandment in the law (dwarfed only by the law to love God with all your heart [[hottip:*:and some interpretations have those two laws as being equal, or both necessary for the fulfilment of the other i.e. you cannot love God if you do not love your neighbor]] .) Apocrypha such as Tobit includes outright formulations of The Golden Rule.

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While most people associate Christianity's take on The Golden Rule with Jesus' Sermon On The Mount, the principle is deeply rooted in the Old Testament as well. The law of Moses include "Love your neighbor as yourself", and in the new testament Jesus highlights this as the second most important commandment in the law (dwarfed only by the law to love God with all your heart [[hottip:*:and some interpretations have those two laws as being equal, or both necessary for the fulfilment of the other i.e. you cannot love God if you do not love your neighbor]] .neighbor, as love for God implies respect and care for his creation, of which humanity would be a subset.]] .) Apocrypha such as Tobit includes outright formulations of The Golden Rule.
21st Apr '13 2:31:46 PM memememememe
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When judging the morality of the Golden Rule, one can look to many perspectives. Maybe it's because of [[TheDeontologist the principle behind acting according to the Golden Rule]]. Maybe it's because [[ForHappiness of the consequences of following it, as in treating kindness with kindness leads to greater net prosperity]]. Maybe it's a way to apply [[EquivalentExchange one of the most important and undeniable laws of science]] to justice and ethics. Or maybe because it's just social and psychological custom to reward your benefactors appropriately. For morality based on principles, the golden rule is the most common principle to base the morality on.

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When judging the morality of the Golden Rule, one can look to many perspectives. Maybe it's because of [[TheDeontologist the principle behind acting according to the Golden Rule]]. Maybe it's because [[ForHappiness of the consequences of following it, as in treating kindness with kindness leads to greater net prosperity]].prosperity and less suffering]]. Maybe it's a way to apply [[EquivalentExchange one of the most important and undeniable laws of science]] to justice and ethics. Or maybe because it's just social and psychological custom to reward your benefactors appropriately. For morality based on principles, the golden rule is the most common principle to base the morality on.
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