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In Britain, Irish Travellers are legally considered a separate ethnicity from the settled Irish community. In Ireland, they are not. This is why references in Irish media are made to 'the Travelling community' and 'the Settled community'. All of this a political hot potato.

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In Britain, Irish Travellers are legally considered a separate ethnicity from the settled Irish community. In Ireland, they are not. This is why references in Irish media are made to 'the Travelling community' and 'the Settled community'. All of this is a political hot potato.
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* ''LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'': The murder at the heart of one episode was tied to an attempt to cover up a business deal between two families of Travellers. The deal being the arrangement of a marriage between two ten-year-olds so that a "dowry" could be exchanged to pay off some business debts.

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* ''LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'': ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'': The murder at the heart of one episode was tied to an attempt to cover up a business deal between two families of Travellers. The deal being the arrangement of a marriage between two ten-year-olds so that a "dowry" could be exchanged to pay off some business debts.
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** James May once scolded one of the other hosts for using a hammer to fix a car, saying that a hammer is "a pikey's tool," which goes a bit beyond [[UnfortunateImplications Unfortunate ]]''[[UnfortunateImplications Implications]]''. For shame.

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** James May once scolded one of the other hosts for using a hammer to fix a car, saying that a hammer is "a pikey's tool," which goes a bit beyond [[UnfortunateImplications Unfortunate ]]''[[UnfortunateImplications Implications]]''. For shame.tool".
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The traveling people are a common theme in Irish music. The gypsies are often portrayed romantically, making off with a lord's daughter or otherwise getting the better of their fellow men.

"The Irish Rover" doesn't fall under this category, as it follows the adventures of a ship called "The Irish Rover."

* Many traditional songs describe the life of the gypsy, including:
** "The Gypsy Rover"
** "The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy"
** "The Whistling Gypsy"

Some singers and songwriters have written one or more songs about the life of the tinker, including:
* Ewan MacColl ("The Forty-Foot Trailer", "(I'm a) Freeborn Man"
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** The Bringloidi aren't really based on Travellers, more on stereotypes of rural Irish people in general. The accent is all wrong, for one thing.
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* One infamous episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' had Irish Travelers [[RecycledInSpace in SPACE]] via a group of "neo-transcendentalist" colonists known as the Bringloidi (Bringloid being Irish Gaelic for "dream"). They're about as stereotypical as you can get: slovenly, ignorant, and disruptive, led by a drunkard trying to marry off his nagging daughter. The script was approved by an Irish-American, but plenty of other Irish folks weren't amused.

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* One infamous episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' had Irish Travelers [[RecycledInSpace in SPACE]] via a group of "neo-transcendentalist" colonists known as the Bringloidi (Bringloid (Bringlóid being Irish Gaelic for "dream"). They're about as stereotypical as you can get: slovenly, ignorant, and disruptive, led by a drunkard trying to marry off his nagging daughter. The script was approved by an Irish-American, but plenty of other Irish folks weren't amused.
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* The Irish children's series by Kenneth Bird about a talking dog called Himself, whose owner is a tinker. The ongoing prejudice against tinkers is brought up several times in the series.

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* * The Irish children's series by Kenneth Bird about a talking dog called Himself, whose owner is a tinker. The ongoing prejudice against tinkers is brought up several times in the series.
* In the book ''Steadfast'' of the ''Literature/ElementalMasters'' series, Katie Langford is half-Traveller. Her dancer mother was the Traveller, and her acrobat father a non-Traveller man that was living a similar lifestyle. The two eloped when the Traveller clan refused to let the two marry, and Katie's mother was then cast out from the clan.
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* One infamous episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' had Irish Travelers [[RecycledInSpace in SPACE]] via a group of "neo-transcendentalist" colonists known as the Bringloidi (Bringloid being Irish Gaelic for "dream"). They're about as stereotypical as you can get: slovenly, ignorant, and disruptive, led by a drunkard trying to marry off his nagging daughter. The script was approved by an Irish-American, but plenty of other Irish folks weren't amused.
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* In ''HotFuzz'', a group of Travellers is what ruins the original Village Of The Year contest for Sandford and drives Inspector Butterman's wife to suicide.

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* In ''HotFuzz'', a group of Travellers is what ruins the original Village Of The Year contest for Sandford and drives Inspector Butterman's wife to suicide. [[spoiler:[[DisproportionateRetribution The townspeople then kill them for that]]]].
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* In ''TheGoldenCompass'' (aka ''HisDarkMaterials''), an alternate universe counter-part of the Irish Travellers are called gyptians (derived from the word "Egyptian," and oddly their lingo is referred to as "fen-Dutch," so presumably their ethnicity is a blend). They spend their time traveling the waterways of the British Isles play a large role in helping the protagonist Lyra as she searches for her lost friend (many of their own children having been taken as well). Some Travellers take such a shine to her that she is generally considered an unofficial member of their people. The word "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} Gypsy]]" is derived from a mistaken belief that the Romani people were descended from Egyptians. Thus, "gyptian" is probably an alternate-universe derivation along much the same lines.

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* In ''TheGoldenCompass'' (aka ''HisDarkMaterials''), an alternate universe counter-part of the Irish Travellers are called gyptians (derived from the word "Egyptian," and oddly their lingo is referred to as "fen-Dutch," so presumably their ethnicity is a blend).blend, half of the Gyptian charaters have Greek names, the other half have Dutch-sounding ones). They spend their time traveling the waterways of the British Isles play a large role in helping the protagonist Lyra as she searches for her lost friend (many of their own children having been taken as well). Some Travellers take such a shine to her that she is generally considered an unofficial member of their people. The word "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} Gypsy]]" is derived from a mistaken belief that the Romani people were descended from Egyptians. Thus, "gyptian" is probably an alternate-universe derivation along much the same lines.
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* ''{{Chocolat}}'' has a band of Travellers living in riverboats, whose leader is played by JohnnyDepp. They are discriminated against by the townspeople and the conservative mayor denounces them as godless and a bad influence. The protagonist strives to overcome this prejudice, in accord with her role as the BlitheSpirit. In the book the film was based on, where the person inveighing against the Travellers is the local ultra-conservative priest, who basically rules the town through fear until the protagonist shows up, so his denunciations of godlessness have more force to them. Also, he sets fire to all of the Travellers' barges--twice. Even the chapters from his point of view, when contrasted with what the reader actually knows about the Travellers, show his bigotry to be hysterical, irrational and dead wrong.

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* ''{{Chocolat}}'' ''Film/{{Chocolat}}'' has a band of Travellers living in riverboats, whose leader is played by JohnnyDepp. They are discriminated against by the townspeople and the conservative mayor denounces them as godless and a bad influence. The protagonist strives to overcome this prejudice, in accord with her role as the BlitheSpirit. In the book the film was based on, where the person inveighing against the Travellers is the local ultra-conservative priest, who basically rules the town through fear until the protagonist shows up, so his denunciations of godlessness have more force to them. Also, he sets fire to all of the Travellers' barges--twice. Even the chapters from his point of view, when contrasted with what the reader actually knows about the Travellers, show his bigotry to be hysterical, irrational and dead wrong.
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** This has some basis in our reality as well, as many Medieval Histories of Ireland and Scotland traced the Gaelic Peoples as a whole ultimately back to an Egyptian Princess [Scoti] in much the same way Britain was traced back to Brutus.

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** This has some basis in our reality as well, as many Medieval Histories of Ireland and Scotland traced the Gaelic Peoples as a whole ultimately back to an Egyptian Princess [Scoti] in much the same way Britain was traced back to Brutus.Brutus of Troy.
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**This has some basis in our reality as well, as many Medieval Histories of Ireland and Scotland traced the Gaelic Peoples as a whole ultimately back to an Egyptian Princess [Scoti] in much the same way Britain was traced back to Brutus.

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First off, don't call a Traveller a "Gypsy." It's a derogatory word, and just about the most offensive way you can possibly refer to an Irish Traveller. Only the word "pikey" might be worse, but that only happens in Britain. "Knacker" is another well known derogatory term. Some Travellers today are significantly more offended by "knacker" than "gypsy". Older works might call them "Tinkers," from the fact that a lot of them used to be itinerant tinsmiths. This is also considered offensive. The proper word is "Pavee," not that you'll hear it used much.

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First off, don't call a Traveller a "Gypsy." It's a derogatory word, and just about the most offensive way you can possibly refer to an Irish Traveller. Only the word "pikey" might be worse, but that only happens in Britain. "Knacker" is another well known derogatory term. Some Travellers today are significantly more offended by "knacker" than "gypsy". Older works might call them "Tinkers," from the fact that a lot of them used to be itinerant tinsmiths. This is also considered offensive.offensive, if not so much. The proper word is "Pavee," not that you'll hear it used much.

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First off, don't call a Traveller a "Gypsy." It's a derogatory word, and just about the most offensive way you can possibly refer to an Irish Traveller. Only the word "pikey" might be worse, but that only happens in Britain. "Knacker" is another well known derogatory term. Some Travellers today are significantly more offended by "knacker" than "gypsy". Older works might call them "Tinkers," from the fact that a lot of them used to be itinerant tinsmiths. This is also considered offensive. The proper word is "Pavee," not that you'll hear it used much.



An alternate term for Irish Travellers is "Pavee." Terms such as "gypsy," "pikey," and "knacker" are derogatory and will be taken as offensive by an Irish Traveller. The term "tinker" (from the Travellers' historical trade of tinsmithing) is seen as less derogatory by some, but not by all.

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* In ''TheGoldenCompass'' (aka ''HisDarkMaterials''), an alternate universe counter-part of the Irish Travellers are called gyptians (derived from the word "Egyptian," and oddly their lingo is referred to as "fen-Dutch," so presumably their ethnicity is a blend). They spend their time traveling the waterways of the British Isles play a large role in helping the protagonist Lyra as she searches for her lost friend (many of their own children having been taken as well). Some Travellers take such a shine to her that she is generally considered an unofficial member of their people.
** The word "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} Gypsy]]" is derived from a mistaken belief that the Romani people were descended from Egyptians. Thus, "gyptian" is probably an alternate-universe derivation along much the same lines.

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* In ''TheGoldenCompass'' (aka ''HisDarkMaterials''), an alternate universe counter-part of the Irish Travellers are called gyptians (derived from the word "Egyptian," and oddly their lingo is referred to as "fen-Dutch," so presumably their ethnicity is a blend). They spend their time traveling the waterways of the British Isles play a large role in helping the protagonist Lyra as she searches for her lost friend (many of their own children having been taken as well). Some Travellers take such a shine to her that she is generally considered an unofficial member of their people.
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people. The word "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} Gypsy]]" is derived from a mistaken belief that the Romani people were descended from Egyptians. Thus, "gyptian" is probably an alternate-universe derivation along much the same lines.
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* In ''Stand Off'' (original title ''Whole Lotta Sole'') Irish Travellers supply much of the humour and help to complicate the farcical proceedings. One of their children gets his head stuck between window bars and when the character played by Brendan Fraser uses soap to free him the boy does not know what it is.
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An alternate term for Irish Travellers is "Pavee." Terms such as "gypsy," "pikey," and "knacker" are derogatory and will be taken as offensive by an Irish Traveller.

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An alternate term for Irish Travellers is "Pavee." Terms such as "gypsy," "pikey," and "knacker" are derogatory and will be taken as offensive by an Irish Traveller. The term "tinker" (from the Travellers' historical trade of tinsmithing) is seen as less derogatory by some, but not by all.
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The fact that Irish Travellers are culturally ''different'' from most other Caucasians is where a lot of the media bias comes from.

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The fact that Irish Travellers are culturally ''different'' from most other Caucasians is White Europeans--including other ("Settled") Irish--is where a lot of the media bias comes from.

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First off, don't call a Traveller a "Gypsy." It's a derogatory word, and just about the most offensive way you can possibly refer to an Irish Traveller. Only the word "pikey" might be worse, but that only happens in Britain. "Knacker" is another well known derogatory term. Some Travellers today are significantly more offended by "knacker" than "gypsy". Older works might call them "Tinkers," from the fact that a lot of them used to be itinerant tinsmiths. This is also considered offensive. The proper word is "Pavee," not that you'll hear it used much.


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* In ''The Field'', a traveller woman shows up at a village dance and dares a man to "dance with the Tinker's daughter". She evenutally becomes the love interest of Tadgh.
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* There is a passing reference to Travellers in the novel TheBookOfKells. John goes back to the present and sees a family in Dublin that look like they could be descendants of Ailesh and himself.

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* There is a passing reference to Travellers in the novel TheBookOfKells.''The Book Of Kells'' by Creator/RAMacAvoy. John goes back to the present and sees a family in Dublin that look like they could be descendants of Ailesh and himself.
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* In ''Film/{{Snatch}}'', a clan of Travellers (and their champion bareknuckle fighter in particular) plays a big role. They're all liars and con-men, but so is every other character in the film. It's a GuyRitchie movie; if there's a moral high ground, the Travellers are probably the ones occupying it, especially considering that they're up against a LondonGangster who's a CompleteMonster.

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* In ''Film/{{Snatch}}'', a clan of Travellers (and their champion bareknuckle fighter in particular) plays a big role. They're all liars and con-men, but so is every other character in the film. It's a GuyRitchie movie; if there's a moral high ground, the Travellers are probably the ones occupying it, especially considering that they're up against a LondonGangster who's a CompleteMonster.LondonGangster.

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* Despite the name, the RealityShow ''BigFatGypsyWeddings'' actually tends to depict Irish Travellers, though it has followed people of UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} descent on occasion.
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* The Irish children's series by Kenneth Bird about a talking dog called Himself, whose owner is a tinker. The ongoing prejudice against tinkers is brought up several times in the series.
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** The word "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romnia}} Gypsy]]" is derived from a mistaken belief that the Romani people were descended from Egyptians. Thus, "gyptian" is probably an alternate-universe derivation along much the same lines.

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** The word "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romnia}} "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} Gypsy]]" is derived from a mistaken belief that the Romani people were descended from Egyptians. Thus, "gyptian" is probably an alternate-universe derivation along much the same lines.
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* In ''{{Snatch}}'', a clan of Travellers (and their champion bareknuckle fighter in particular) plays a big role. They're all liars and con-men, but so is every other character in the film. It's a GuyRitchie movie; if there was a moral high ground, the Travellers were probably the ones occupying it.

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* In ''{{Snatch}}'', ''Film/{{Snatch}}'', a clan of Travellers (and their champion bareknuckle fighter in particular) plays a big role. They're all liars and con-men, but so is every other character in the film. It's a GuyRitchie movie; if there was there's a moral high ground, the Travellers were are probably the ones occupying it.it, especially considering that they're up against a LondonGangster who's a CompleteMonster.
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First off, don't call a Traveller a "Gypsy." It's a derogatory word, and just about the most offensive way you can possibly refer to an Irish Traveller. Only the word "pikey" might be worse, but that only happens in Britain. "Knacker" is another well known derogatory term. Some Travellers today are significantly more offended by "knacker" than "gypsy". Older works might call them "Tinkers," from the fact that a lot of them used to be itinerant tinsmiths. This is also considered offensive. The proper word is "Pavee," not that you'll hear it used much.

Irish Travellers are a people who share the language Shelta, commonly known as Cant, derived from a mixture of intentionally-incomprehensible Irish slang and a few English, Romani, and other loanwords. They are tribal, like the UsefulNotes/{{Romani}}, and share the perception in media as being "evil outsiders", like the Romani, and some are nomadic, like some Romani, but that is it.

The fact that Irish Travellers are culturally ''different'' from most other Caucasians is where a lot of the media bias comes from.

In Britain, Irish Travellers are legally considered a separate ethnicity from the settled Irish community. In Ireland, they are not. This is why references in Irish media are made to 'the Travelling community' and 'the Settled community'. All of this a political hot potato.

There is a population of about 7,000 Travellers in the United States, concentrated in the DeepSouth. Some have settled down, but others still maintain the Travelling lifestyle, albeit in [=RVs=] rather than the more traditional covered wagons.

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!!Irish Travellers in fiction:

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* ''TheMadScientistWars'' suggests that one of Andrew Tinker's MadScientist grandfathers, Dr. Io, is an Irish Traveller. It hasn't been gone into too much, but Dr. Io is presented as a kind, good person, so it's a positive portrayal.

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* ''{{Chocolat}}'' has a band of Travellers living in riverboats, whose leader is played by JohnnyDepp. They are discriminated against by the townspeople and the conservative mayor denounces them as godless and a bad influence. The protagonist strives to overcome this prejudice, in accord with her role as the BlitheSpirit. In the book the film was based on, where the person inveighing against the Travellers is the local ultra-conservative priest, who basically rules the town through fear until the protagonist shows up, so his denunciations of godlessness have more force to them. Also, he sets fire to all of the Travellers' barges--twice. Even the chapters from his point of view, when contrasted with what the reader actually knows about the Travellers, show his bigotry to be hysterical, irrational and dead wrong.
* In ''{{Snatch}}'', a clan of Travellers (and their champion bareknuckle fighter in particular) plays a big role. They're all liars and con-men, but so is every other character in the film. It's a GuyRitchie movie; if there was a moral high ground, the Travellers were probably the ones occupying it.
* ''Into the West'', a MagicalRealism story about two Traveller boys escaping from the grimness and poverty of early '90s Dublin.
* ''Pavee Lackeen'' (which is Cant for ''The Traveller Girl'') is a pseudo-docu-drama about a family of Travellers, the Maughans, who play versions of themselves coping with the everyday reality of being Travellers. It portrays them as well rounded people, but is by no means rose-tinted: it shows, among other things, children sniffing petrol, stealing clothes from charity bins, fighting in the street, etc. Alas, it's held back from being engaging by a complete lack of plot.
* In ''HotFuzz'', a group of Travellers is what ruins the original Village Of The Year contest for Sandford and drives Inspector Butterman's wife to suicide.

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* There is a passing reference to Travellers in the novel TheBookOfKells. John goes back to the present and sees a family in Dublin that look like they could be descendants of Ailesh and himself.
* One of the main characters in CathyCassidy's book ''{{Scarlet}}'' is a Traveller named [[TroubledButCute Kian]], who the titular [[BrattyTeenageDaughter Scarlett]] falls in love with.
* One of the main characters in AnneMcCaffrey's book ''{{Dragonsdawn}}'' is a Traveller named Sean Connell.
* In Shirley Rousseau Murphy's ''Cat to the Dogs'', some disreputable Travellers cause trouble for their less disreputable relatives.
* In ''TheGoldenCompass'' (aka ''HisDarkMaterials''), an alternate universe counter-part of the Irish Travellers are called gyptians (derived from the word "Egyptian," and oddly their lingo is referred to as "fen-Dutch," so presumably their ethnicity is a blend). They spend their time traveling the waterways of the British Isles play a large role in helping the protagonist Lyra as she searches for her lost friend (many of their own children having been taken as well). Some Travellers take such a shine to her that she is generally considered an unofficial member of their people.
** The word "[[UsefulNotes/{{Romnia}} Gypsy]]" is derived from a mistaken belief that the Romani people were descended from Egyptians. Thus, "gyptian" is probably an alternate-universe derivation along much the same lines.
* In Mary Beth Keane's ''The Walking People'' One of the main characters is an Irish Traveller. The Walking People is another name for Irish Traveller.
* ''SeeYouDownTheRoad'' is about Travellers.
* ''TheWheelOfTime'' series has the "Tinkers" or Traveling People. They are a FantasyCounterpartCulture to these as they might have existed in medieval/Renaissance times, but with the addition that they are {{Actual Pacifist}}s whose highest value is ThouShallNotKill. [[spoiler: This is the group the original [[ProudWarriorRace Aiel]] people splintered off from.]]

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* ''LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'': The murder at the heart of one episode was tied to an attempt to cover up a business deal between two families of Travellers. The deal being the arrangement of a marriage between two ten-year-olds so that a "dowry" could be exchanged to pay off some business debts.
* ''TheRiches'' joins up an American Traveller family (in the DeepSouth) with a FishOutOfWater plot. Featuring EddieIzzard, no less.
* The family of con artists in the ''LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' episode "Taken" have all the earmarks of Irish Travellers, but are never referred to as such in the episode.
* ''TopGear'':
** James May once scolded one of the other hosts for using a hammer to fix a car, saying that a hammer is "a pikey's tool," which goes a bit beyond [[UnfortunateImplications Unfortunate ]]''[[UnfortunateImplications Implications]]''. For shame.
** Richard Hammond also described a model of car by using the term "pikey" as a pejorative (albeit by [[SarcasmMode subtly]] cutting the camera to show [[VisualPun a "pie" next to a "key"]]).
* Providing an example of Irish Travellers in an actual Irish work, ''SingleHanded'', a three-part police drama, has the son of a pair of them go missing in its second part.
* A pair turned up in ''BoysFromTheBlackstuff'' where they proved to be sociopathic con-men.
* Despite the name, the RealityShow ''BigFatGypsyWeddings'' actually tends to depict Irish Travellers, though it has followed people of UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} descent on occasion.
* There's a documentary series in the UK called ''My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding'', which challenges the stereotypes about Irish Travellers and UsefulNotes/{{Romani}}, as it shows several different aspects of Traveller life. However, in showing the truth about several stereotypes, it also [[GoneHorriblyRight showed something about Traveller communities that has become another stereotype]]: [[PimpedOutDress their extravagant wedding dresses.]]

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* Irish Travellers are very much a staple of Irish theater, from the 1908 comedy ''The Tinker's Wedding'' by J. M. Synge onwards. Marina Carr's ''By the Bog of Cats'' (1998) is probably the best known work internationally.
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