History UsefulNotes / IrishTravellers

25th Nov '17 3:38:29 AM ergeis
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Series/ThePrisoner'' has Number 6 escape the village and encounter a group of Travellers unaware of what they're saying. They give him food and part ways.

to:

* ''Series/ThePrisoner'' has Number 6 escape the village and encounter a group of what could be assumed as Travellers unaware of what they're saying. They give him food and part ways.
29th Oct '17 2:03:28 PM moloch
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Irish Travellers are a people who share the language Shelta, commonly known as Cant, derived from a mixture of intentionally-incomprehensible Irish slang and a few English, Romani, and other loanwords. They are tribal, like the UsefulNotes/{{Romani}}, and share the perception in media as being "evil outsiders", like the Romani, and some are nomadic, like some Romani, but that is it other than a shared passion for boxing.

to:

Irish Travellers are a people who share the language Shelta, commonly known as Traveller Cant, derived from a mixture of intentionally-incomprehensible Irish slang backslang and a few English, Romani, and other loanwords. They are tribal, like the UsefulNotes/{{Romani}}, and share the perception in media as being "evil outsiders", like the Romani, and some are nomadic, like some Romani, but that is it other than and share a shared passion for boxing.
boxing, but other than that, they're different from the Romani and don't appreciate being lumped into the same category.
29th Oct '17 1:59:24 PM moloch
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

** Fairly sure those are Romani gypsies rather than Irish Travellers, but willing to be proved wrong...
29th Sep '17 12:59:26 AM ergeis
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* ''Series/ThePrisoner'' has Number 6 escape the village and encounter a group of Travellers unaware of what they're saying. They give him food and part ways.
23rd Aug '17 8:12:58 AM Prime32
Is there an issue? Send a Message


First off, don't call a Traveller a "Gypsy." It's a derogatory word, and just about the most offensive way you can possibly refer to an Irish Traveller. Only the word "pikey" might be worse, but that only happens in Britain. "Knacker" is another well known derogatory term. Some Travellers today are significantly more offended by "knacker" than "gypsy". Older works might call them "Tinkers," from the fact that a lot of them used to be itinerant tinsmiths. This is also considered offensive, if not so much. The proper word is "Pavee," not that you'll hear it used much.

to:

First off, don't call a Traveller a "Gypsy." "Gypsy". It's a derogatory word, and just about the most offensive way you can possibly refer to an Irish Traveller. Only the word "pikey" might be worse, but that only happens in Britain. "Knacker" "Knacker"[[note]]Meaning a horse too old or sick for work, or a person who buys such animals for slaughter[[/note]] is another well known derogatory term. Some term; some Travellers today are significantly more offended by "knacker" than "gypsy". Older works might call them "Tinkers," "Tinkers", from the fact that a lot of them used to be itinerant tinsmiths. This is also considered offensive, if not so much. The proper word is "Pavee," "Pavee", not that you'll hear it used much.



In Britain, Irish Travellers are legally considered a separate ethnicity from the settled Irish community. In Ireland, they are not, though any discrimination legislation references membership of the travelling community in addition to race and religion. This is why references in Irish media are made to 'the Travelling community' and 'the Settled community'. All of this is a political hot potato.

to:

In Britain, Irish Travellers are have only legally been considered a separate ethnicity from the settled Irish community. In Ireland, they are not, community since 2000 (in Britain) and 2017 (in Ireland), though any Irish discrimination legislation references prior to that had referenced membership of the travelling community in addition to race and religion. This is why references in Irish media are made to 'the Travelling community' and 'the Settled community'. All of this is a political hot potato.
23rd Aug '17 1:18:44 AM PaulA
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In the book ''Steadfast'' of the ''Literature/ElementalMasters'' series, Katie Langford is half-Traveller. Her dancer mother was the Traveller, and her acrobat father a non-Traveller man that was living a similar lifestyle. The two eloped when the Traveller clan refused to let the two marry, and Katie's mother was then cast out from the clan.

to:

* In the book ''Steadfast'' of the ''Literature/ElementalMasters'' series, ''Literature/{{Steadfast}}'', Katie Langford is half-Traveller. Her dancer mother was the Traveller, and her acrobat father a non-Traveller man that was living a similar lifestyle. The two eloped when the Traveller clan refused to let the two marry, and Katie's mother was then cast out from the clan.
8th Jul '17 9:53:50 PM Skagit
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Irish Travellers are a people who share the language Shelta, commonly known as Cant, derived from a mixture of intentionally-incomprehensible Irish slang and a few English, Romani, and other loanwords. They are tribal, like the UsefulNotes/{{Romani}}, and share the perception in media as being "evil outsiders", like the Romani, and some are nomadic, like some Romani, but that is it.

to:

Irish Travellers are a people who share the language Shelta, commonly known as Cant, derived from a mixture of intentionally-incomprehensible Irish slang and a few English, Romani, and other loanwords. They are tribal, like the UsefulNotes/{{Romani}}, and share the perception in media as being "evil outsiders", like the Romani, and some are nomadic, like some Romani, but that is it.
it other than a shared passion for boxing.
8th Apr '17 11:27:11 AM StFan
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* A pair turned up in ''BoysFromTheBlackstuff'' where they proved to be sociopathic con-men.

to:

* A pair turned up in ''BoysFromTheBlackstuff'' ''Series/BoysFromTheBlackstuff'' where they proved to be sociopathic con-men.
25th Feb '17 3:42:58 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Series/TheRiches'' joins up an American Traveller family (in the DeepSouth) with a FishOutOfWater plot. Featuring EddieIzzard, no less.

to:

* ''Series/TheRiches'' joins up an American Traveller family (in the DeepSouth) with a FishOutOfWater plot. Featuring EddieIzzard, Creator/EddieIzzard, no less.
20th Jan '17 3:33:25 PM Luppercus
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* The Pilgrims in ''Film/WingCommander'' are a group of Space Nomads, notable for their ability to navigate without the help of computers. They suffer from prejudice and persecution from most of the society.
This list shows the last 10 events of 55. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=UsefulNotes.IrishTravellers