History UsefulNotes / GratuitousEnglishInJapan

5th Mar '15 6:56:43 PM N1KF
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Tends to result (from an Anglophone's point of view, anyway) in YouNoTakeCandle - or, at best, BuffySpeak.

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Tends to result (from an Anglophone's point of view, anyway) in YouNoTakeCandle - or, at best, BuffySpeak.BuffySpeak.

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1st Aug '13 3:00:25 AM SeptimusHeap
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For example, a schoolgirl who feels she has just received a stroke of good fortune might squeal "Rakki!" This originates from the English word "Lucky!" She is not "trying to speak English because it's cool" but simply saying what a Japanese person of that age and education level would say in that situation.[[hottip:*:The equivalent Japanese word has slightly different connotations, explaining why a foreign word was adopted to express this situation.]]

There are three kinds of English in Japan: English the foreign language, English that becomes Japanese, and Japanese-made English. Interestingly, the Japanese language has many loan words from English. Sometimes, an English word is used in place of an equivalent Japanese term. That's in contrast to Chinese or French, whose speakers favor making new words based on Chinese or French[[hottip:*:Only the French government thinks this, however. Using the French name for "CD" is a good way to elicit laughter in young Frenchmen.]] rather than using foreign words. Japanese-made English is something else. It often falls under Gratuitous English. One famous example of this is the "Walkman".

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For example, a schoolgirl who feels she has just received a stroke of good fortune might squeal "Rakki!" This originates from the English word "Lucky!" She is not "trying to speak English because it's cool" but simply saying what a Japanese person of that age and education level would say in that situation.[[hottip:*:The [[note]]The equivalent Japanese word has slightly different connotations, explaining why a foreign word was adopted to express this situation.]]

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There are three kinds of English in Japan: English the foreign language, English that becomes Japanese, and Japanese-made English. Interestingly, the Japanese language has many loan words from English. Sometimes, an English word is used in place of an equivalent Japanese term. That's in contrast to Chinese or French, whose speakers favor making new words based on Chinese or French[[hottip:*:Only French[[note]]Only the French government thinks this, however. Using the French name for "CD" is a good way to elicit laughter in young Frenchmen.]] [[/note]] rather than using foreign words. Japanese-made English is something else. It often falls under Gratuitous English. One famous example of this is the "Walkman".
8th Apr '13 10:49:41 AM Hadjorim
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Gratuitous English is so common in the Japanese language that it's said if a writer wants to pen a historical novel with accurate period dialog, it's going to be hard to do -- foreign loanwords now saturate the Japanese language and those loanwords have often displaced equivalent Japanese terms. Besides English, Japanese language also take many loanwords from Spanish, Portuguese, French and even other Asian languages like Chinese and Korean, The irony of this is that the Japanese have far fewer English speakers than South Korea and China.

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Gratuitous English is so common in the Japanese language that it's said if a writer wants to pen a historical novel with accurate period dialog, it's going to be hard to do -- foreign loanwords now saturate the Japanese language and those loanwords have often displaced equivalent Japanese terms. Besides English, Japanese language also take many loanwords from Spanish, Portuguese, French and even other Asian languages like Chinese and Korean, Korean. The irony of this is that the Japanese have far fewer English speakers than South Korea and China.
17th Feb '13 5:55:04 PM spongeboy1985
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This is not so much an [[JapaneseMediaTropes Japanese Media Trope]] as a feature of the Japanese language. It shows up prominently in anime and can easily be misunderstood by people who don't speak Japanese. The Japanese language includes many "foreign loan words" (Gairaigo). While a few of these words, like "tabako" (cigarettes) and "pan" (bread, borrowed from early Portuguese sailors), have been in use for over a hundred years, most date to the post-war period.

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This is not so much an a [[JapaneseMediaTropes Japanese Media Trope]] as it is a feature of the Japanese language. It shows up prominently in anime and can easily be misunderstood by people who don't speak Japanese. The Japanese language includes many "foreign loan words" (Gairaigo). While a few of these words, like "tabako" (cigarettes) and "pan" (bread, borrowed from early Portuguese sailors), have been in use for over a hundred years, most date to the post-war period.
1st Dec '12 8:27:29 AM TropeEater
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{{Anime Theme Song}}s are rife with GratuitousEnglish but these are tricky to put into the actual show, lest you have rampant {{narm}}s. Mind you, this doesn't stop many from ''trying'', and is especially common with characters that are [[{{Eagleland}} supposed to be American]].

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{{Anime Theme Song}}s are rife with GratuitousEnglish but these are tricky to put into the actual show, lest you have rampant {{narm}}s. Mind you, this doesn't stop many from ''trying'', and is especially common with characters that are [[{{Eagleland}} supposed to be American]].
{{Eagleland}}ers.
3rd Jun '12 10:47:54 PM BlackHumor
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For example, a schoolgirl who feels she has just received a stroke of good fortune might squeal "Rakki!" This originates from the English word "Lucky!" She is not "trying to speak English because it's cool" but simply saying what a Japanese person of that age and education level would say in that situation.[[hottip:*:The Japanese have traditionally perceived luck/good fortune in a different light from Westerners, explaining why a foreign word was adopted to express this situation.]]

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For example, a schoolgirl who feels she has just received a stroke of good fortune might squeal "Rakki!" This originates from the English word "Lucky!" She is not "trying to speak English because it's cool" but simply saying what a Japanese person of that age and education level would say in that situation.[[hottip:*:The equivalent Japanese have traditionally perceived luck/good fortune in a word has slightly different light from Westerners, connotations, explaining why a foreign word was adopted to express this situation.]]
9th Feb '12 9:59:58 AM lebrel
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GratuitousEnglish as used in Japan.
9th Feb '12 9:53:15 AM lebrel
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This is not so much an [[JapaneseMediaTropes Japanese Media Trope]] as a feature of the Japanese language. It shows up prominently in anime and can easily be misunderstood by people who don't speak Japanese. The Japanese language includes many "foreign loan words" (Gairaigo). While a few of these words, like "tabako" (cigarettes) and "pan" (bread, borrowed from early Portuguese sailors), have been in use for over a hundred years, most date to the post-war period.

They are a common, everyday part of Japanese language with their own usage and meaning (often slightly different from the source, sometimes very different), appear in dictionaries alongside normal words (the same way that the word burrito appears in an English dictionary), etc. etc.

For example, a schoolgirl who feels she has just received a stroke of good fortune might squeal "Rakki!" This originates from the English word "Lucky!" She is not "trying to speak English because it's cool" but simply saying what a Japanese person of that age and education level would say in that situation.[[hottip:*:The Japanese have traditionally perceived luck/good fortune in a different light from Westerners, explaining why a foreign word was adopted to express this situation.]]

There are three kinds of English in Japan: English the foreign language, English that becomes Japanese, and Japanese-made English. Interestingly, the Japanese language has many loan words from English. Sometimes, an English word is used in place of an equivalent Japanese term. That's in contrast to Chinese or French, whose speakers favor making new words based on Chinese or French[[hottip:*:Only the French government thinks this, however. Using the French name for "CD" is a good way to elicit laughter in young Frenchmen.]] rather than using foreign words. Japanese-made English is something else. It often falls under Gratuitous English. One famous example of this is the "Walkman".

Occasionally, gratuitous English will be applied in an effort to give something an exotic flair, usually resulting in a lot of ForeignSoundingGibberish. It can also appear on signs, books and particularly T-shirts (this is true of T-shirts in nearly every country, however, such as in English-speaking countries who put gratuitous Asian words on t-shirts). Sometimes this use is grammatically proper, and sometimes it's just bizarre. [[http://www.engrish.com/ Engrish.com]] has dozens, nay hundreds, of examples. What's odd is that Japanese consumer products have ''English'' not because it saves money on international sales, it's because [[RuleOfCool it just looks cool]]. Japanese stereos have "Volume", "Bass" and "Treble" labels while they could've used the Japanese words for those. This can be extended to other "exotic" languages, but English is the most common. It's roughly the same reason why some Westerners tattoo themselves with "Asian" signs (with about the same level of grammatic and syntactic success, but much more ''permanence''). It should be noted that Gratuitous English is more ubiquitous, however.

Sometimes using Gratuitous English can be convenient for {{Kotobagari}}. Foreign words can provide [[ForeignCussWord useful euphemisms for potentially offensive words]]. Gratuitous English can also be used in an attempt to add verisimilitude to a token foreign or [[ButNotTooForeign foreign-raised]] character, as real people almost invariably revert to their native tongues when they are counting, cursing, startled, or otherwise stressed.

Gratuitous English is so common in the Japanese language that it's said if a writer wants to pen a historical novel with accurate period dialog, it's going to be hard to do -- foreign loanwords now saturate the Japanese language and those loanwords have often displaced equivalent Japanese terms. Besides English, Japanese language also take many loanwords from Spanish, Portuguese, French and even other Asian languages like Chinese and Korean, The irony of this is that the Japanese have far fewer English speakers than South Korea and China.

{{Anime Theme Song}}s are rife with GratuitousEnglish but these are tricky to put into the actual show, lest you have rampant {{narm}}s. Mind you, this doesn't stop many from ''trying'', and is especially common with characters that are [[{{Eagleland}} supposed to be American]].

Tends to result (from an Anglophone's point of view, anyway) in YouNoTakeCandle - or, at best, BuffySpeak.
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