History Trivia / UminekoWhenTheyCry

* FanNickname: Sea kittens. "''Umineko''" is the Japanese name for the black-tailed seagull, but the name literally translates to "sea cat". That, and it's a reference to a [[http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/ particularly stupid PETA campaign.]] More nicknames for characters and places can be found [[FanNickname/UminekoWhenTheyCry here]].

* FanNickname: Sea kittens. "''Umineko''" is the Japanese name for the black-tailed seagull, but the name literally translates to "sea cat". That, and it's a reference to a [[http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/ particularly stupid PETA campaign.]] More nicknames for characters and places can be found [[FanNickname/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi here]].

** [[Creator/DaisukeOno Battler]], [[Creator/TomokazuSugita Ronove]], [[Creator/MiyukiSawashiro Dlanor A. Knox]], [[Creator/AyakoKawasumi Lion]], [[Creator/AtsukoTanaka Kyrie]] and [[Creator/ShizukaIto Gertrude]] are all [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure part of another weird family that has connections with non-human beings]], while [[Creator/RikiyaKoyama Rudolf]], [[Creator/KojiYusa Juuza]], [[Creator/RieKugimiya Shannon]], [[Creator/RinaSato Ange]], [[Creator/SayakaOhara Beatrice]], [[Creator/NaoTouyama Piece]], [[Creator/KenNarita Okonogi]], [[Creator/EriKitamura Chiester 410]] and [[Creator/JurotaKosugi Krauss]] are allies to different members of said family in various works.
** [[Creator/MarinaINoue Jessica]], [[Creator/DaisukeOno Battler]], [[Creator/YuuKobayashi Kanon]] and [[Creator/TomokazuSugita Ronove]] are [[Manga/AttackOnTitan soldiers who fight for what has remained of humanity]]

** Via ''[[VideoGame/UminekoGoldenFantasia Ougon Musou Kyoku Cross]]'' including ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' references:

* CreatorsFavorite: Ryukishi specifically mentioned Lambdadelta and Erika as being among his favorite characters to write in an interview, and in another he said Beatrice was possibly his favorite character in all of ''When They Cry''.

* CreatorsFavorite: Ryukishi specifically mentioned Lambdadelta and Erika as being among his favorite characters to write in an interview.

** The direction and tone of the novels would have been very different if it weren't for the fact that Ryukishi's friend died. Other than CreatorBreakdown, his friend was his go-to guy for advice on the plot. Tellingly, both EP 6 and EP 7 center heavily around dealing with the fallout of a loved one passing away [[spoiler:(Beatrice in both cases]] and in the latter [[spoiler: a point is made of the person to uncover the whole truth of everything, hear Yasu's story as it is told, and understand her true character not being the person Yasu had hoped would be the one to do so, a possible reference to how BT died before Ryukishi could ever reveal to him the truth of Yasu and of the story as he'd planned out.]]

** Land of the Golden Witch. Originally, EP 3 was supposed to be much more difficult than the EP 3 we got (Banquet of the Golden Witch). And by much more difficult, I mean [[UpToEleven much harder in difficulty than both Legend and Turn.]] However, because Ryukishi found that many players were having trouble, he decided to lower the difficulty in order to give players more of a helping hand. This was explained in game as [[spoiler:Land being a message in a bottle, like Legend and Turn. However, unlike Legend and Turn, Land was never found, as revealed to Piece!Ange by Piece!Beato in EP 8.]] [[WordofGod Ryukishi has gone on record saying]] that he doesn't plan to release Land, as he says he incorporated all the clues that were in it into other arcs.
** One thing that was added to ''Banquet'' that wasn't in ''Land'' was the inclusion of Ronove and the inclusion of the [[UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat Cat Box]] as hinted by Virgilia. Originally, the Cat Box discussion would've been left for an Answer Arc, [[UpToEleven which would have made EPs 3 and 4 at the least really hard for Battler to solve.]] Some of the things that were to be included in ''Land'' were a character named "Virgilius" who was to be a guide for Battler (like Virgilia), but who acted like Erika as a rival detective. Another is that [[spoiler:part of ''Land'' was to be purportedly narrated from Yasu's point of view, as the "baby from 19 years ago" plot thread later repurposed for ''End'' was intended to be introduced here.]] It was said to also have had a few clues that were very important for the mystery but, because of ''Land''s exclusion, were introduced as late as EP 5 and 6 canonically. Had Ryukishi kept ''Land'' --and thus [[spoiler:Yasu]] and those "vital clues" -- he probably could have avoided [[spoiler:criticism for his execution of the mystery's answer and the mystery probably would have been considered [[FairPlayWhodunnit more fair]]]].

** An interview in a guidebook for Episode 8 shows that Ryukishi had planned for [[spoiler:Will to be consumed by Bernkastel's cats in order to let Lion escape, only to be brought back in [=EP8=] as Bernkastel's piece Black Will]], but then he realized that this would take away Battler's role.

** One thing that was added to Banquet that wasn't in Land was the inclusion of Ronove and the inclusion of the [[UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat Cat Box]] as hinted by Virgilia. Originally, the Cat Box discussion would've been left for an Answer Arc, [[UpToEleven which would have made EPs 3 and 4 at the least really hard for Battler to solve.]] Some of the things that were to be included in Land were apparently a character named "Virgilius" who was to be a guide for Battler (like Virgilia), but who acted like Erika. Another is that [[spoiler:part of Land was to be purportedly narrated from Yasu's point of view.]] It was said to also have had a few clues that were very important for the mystery but, because of Land's exclusion, were introduced as late as EP 5 and 6 canonically. Had Ryukishi kept Land --and thus [[spoiler:Yasu]] and those "vital clues" -- he probably could have avoided [[spoiler:criticism for his execution of the mystery's answer and the mystery probably would have been [[FairPlayWhodunnit more fair]]]].

* CreatorBreakdown: Whether there is any actual relation is unknown, but after Ryukishi's dear friend BT died, Umineko took on a very different tone from [=EP6=] onwards.

** The direction and tone of the novels would have been very different if it weren't for the fact that Ryukishi's friend died. Other than CreatorBreakdown, his friend was his go-to guy for advice on the plot.

** [[Creator/DaisukeOno Battler]], [[Creator/JurotaKosugi Krauss]], [[Creator/TomokazuSugita Ronove]], [[Creator/MiyukiSawashiro Dlanor A. Knox]], [[Creator/AyakoKawasumi Lion]], [[Creator/AtsukoTanaka Kyrie]] and [[Creator/ShizukaIto Gertrude]] are all [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure part of another weird family that has connections with non-human beings]].

* VaporWare: In 2018, an UpdatedRerelease, to be published by Catbox Creative, had been hyped for Switch and PS4, simply titled ''Umineko Gold Edition''. This version would do away with the poorly received Pachislot game art included in the Steam release, and replace it with the fan-favorite [=PS3=] artwork from Alchemist. It would also include a full English dub, the original Japanese voice acting, all-new content provided directly by Ryukishi07, and a free audiobook to be released on iTunes. It even boasted about one of the confirmed voice actors: Creator/LindaYoung, who voiced [[Manga/YuyuHakusho Genkai]]. Sadly, in early 2019, the Kickstarter campaign was "postponed" with a myriad of excuses, including health issues with Emily Fajardo, a mandate from 07th Expansion for silence regarding the Kickstarter campaign, and various issues. The last update was in mid-2019. There have been no updates since, and the project is presumed abandoned.

* VaporWare: In 2018, an UpdatedRerelease, to be published by Catbox Creative, had been hyped for Switch and PS4, simply titled ''Umineko Gold Edition''. This version would do away with the poorly received Pachislot game art included in the Steam release, and replace it with the fan-favorite PS3 artwork from Alchemist. It would also include a full English dub, the original Japanese voice acting, all-new content provided directly by Ryukishi07, and a free audiobook to be released on iTunes. It even boasted about one of the confirmed voice actors: Creator/LindaYoung, who voiced [[Manga/YuyuHakusho Genkai]]. Sadly, in early 2019, the Kickstarter campaign was "postponed" with a myriad of excuses, including health issues with Emily Fajardo, a mandate from 07th Expansion for silence regarding the Kickstarter campaign, and various issues. The last update was in mid-2019. There have been no updates since, and the project is presumed abandoned.

** [[Creator/RikiyaKoyama Rudolf]], [[Creator/RieKugimiya Shannon]], [[Creator/MiyukiSawashiro Dlanor A. Knox]] and [[Creator/AtsukoTanaka Kyrie]] are [[TheBigGuy Saejima]], [[TagAlongKid Har]][[IdolSinger uka]], [[DamselinDistress Makoto]] and [[TheBartender Reina]] respectively in the ''VideoGame/{{Yakuza}}'' series.

** [[Creator/RikiyaKoyama Rudolf]] and [[Creator/RieKugimiya Shannon]] are [[TheBigGuy Saejima]] and [[TagAlongKid Har]][[IdolSinger uka]] respectively in the ''VideoGame/{{Yakuza}}'' series. In the [[VideoGame/{{Yakuza0}} prequel]], [[Creator/MiyukiSawashiro Dlanor A. Knox]] is Makoto, a blind girl protected by Saejima's sworn brother.

** [[Creator/RikiyaKoyama Rudolf]] and [[Creator/RieKugimiya Shannon]] are TheBigGuy and TagAlongKid turned IdolSinger respectively in a [[VideoGame/{{Yakuza}} video game series about the Japanese criminal underworld]].

* {{Jossed}}: With all the AdaptationExpansion in the Episode 8 manga, the [[spoiler:Rosatrice]] theory has been pretty much buried six feet under.

* VaporWare: In 2018, an UpdatedRerelease, to be published by Catbox Creative, had been hyped for Switch and PS4, simply titled ''Umineko Gold Edition''. This version would do away with the poorly received Pachislot game art included in the Steam release, and replace it with the fan-favorite PS3 artwork from Alchemist. It would also include a full English dub, the original Japanese voice acting, all-new content provided directly by Ryukishi07, and a free audiobook to be released on iTunes. It even boasted about one of the confirmed voice actors: Creator/LindaYoung, who voiced [[Manga/YuyuHakusho Genkai]]. Sadly, in early 2019, the Kickstarter campaign was "postponed" with a myriad of excuses, including health issues with Emily Fajardo, a mandate from 07th Expansion for silence regarding the Kickstarter campaign, and various issues. The last update was in mid-2019. There have been no updates since, and the project is presumed abandoned--and a grim, cautionary tale against the dangers of Kickstarter and bragging about things you can't provide.

** This is actually an anachronism, as the series debuted 1996 - ten years after the story takes place. However, a similar anachronism was made in Higurashi, making it also a MythologyGag.

** Many of the older volumes in the English release of the manga are also currently out of print (at least as of 2020), the prices aren't as bad as the Blu-Rays of the anime, but Volume 1 alone can be pretty expensive depending on where you're buying.
* LyingCreator: Supporters of the [[spoiler:Rosatrice]] theory often suspect this from the author (who more or less confirms the [[spoiler:Shkanontrice]] theory in his interviews and in the manga).

** The US release of the manga is also currently out of print (at least as of 2020), the prices aren't as bad as the Blu-Rays of the anime, but Volume 1 alone can be pretty expensive depending on where you're buying.

** If you listen closely to both [[Creator/EmiShinohara Natsuhi]] and [[Creator/MikiIto Eva]], you might notice how sour they are towards each other. Contrast that with their roles as Youko and Sachiko respectively in ''LightNovel/MariaSamaGaMiteru''.

** The direction and tone of the novels would have been very different if it weren't for the fact that Ryukishi's friend died. Other than CreatorBreakdown, his friend was his go-to guy for advice on the plot.

** The direction and tone of the novels would have been very different if it weren't for the fact that Ryukishi's friend died. Other than CreatorBreakdown, his friend was his go-to guy for advice on the plot.
** Ryukishi had planned to write a short story about Will during his rookie days at the SSVD, but he eventually shelved it. He had also originally planned for [[spoiler:Will to be consumed by Bernkastel's cats in order to let Lion escape, only to be brought back in [=EP8=] as Bernkastel's piece Black Will]], but then he realized that this would take away Battler's role.
** In the epilogue, Ryukishi had originally planned [[spoiler:for the real Tooya Hachijou (formerly known as Battler) and Ikuko Hachijou to be married, but he ended up [[ImpliedLoveInterest making their relationship more ambiguous]].]]

* VaporWare: In 2018, an UpdatedRerelease, to be published by Catbox Creative, had been hyped for Switch and PS4, simply titled ''Umineko Gold Edition''. This version would do away with the poorly received Pachislot game art included in the Steam release, and replace it with the fan-favorite PS3 artwork from Alchemist. It would also include a full English dub, the original Japanese voice acting, all-new content provided directly by Ryukishi07, and a free audiobook to be released on iTunes. It even boasted about one of the confirmed voice actors: Creator/LindaYoung, who voiced [[Manga/YuyuHakusho Genkai]]. Sadly, in early 2019, the Kickstarter campaign was "postponed" with a myriad of excuses, including health issues with Emily Fajardo, a mandate from 07th Expansion for silence regarding the Kickstarter campaign, and various issues. The last update was in mid-2019. There have been no updates since, and the project is presumed abandoned- and a grim, cautionary tale against the dangers of Kickstarter and bragging about things you can't provide.