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* MagnumOpusDissonance:
** ''Twilight Princess'' is one of the team's most popular [=LPs=], and several people have told Thorn it's their favorite. He can't even watch it due to hating his commentary and the lack of chemistry with some of his guest commentators, and he intends to remake it with the Wii U ''HD'' version.
** The first episode of ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonHeroOfLeafValley'' is the single most-viewed video on the channel, 2-3 times more than the otherwise most-viewed ''Punch-Out!!'' videos, and Thorn considers the LP one of his best. Very few fans took notice or interest in it during its run.
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* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: They've gotten flak from their viewers for having several Let's Plays running at one time, often with one or two [=LPs=] falling behind in the schedule. Whether their schedule remains consistent or not often depends on if they have school or work priorities, or if they are working on outside projects at the same time, (e.g. ''WebVideo/SgtFrogAbridged'').

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* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: They've gotten flak from their viewers for having several Let's Plays running at one time, often with one or two [=LPs=] falling behind in the schedule. Whether their schedule remains remained consistent or not often depends depended on if they have had school or work priorities, or if they are were working on outside projects at the same time, (e.g. ''WebVideo/SgtFrogAbridged''). This became less of a problem in 2017 after Thorn focused on the channel for his Patreon, at which point he and his guests made sure to record large LP backlogs so that schedules always remained consistent.



** Thorn also has a negative view of his ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' LP due to seeing his commentary and chemistry with his guests as poor. It's currently the only completed LP by the team that will be restarted, in this case with the ''HD'' Wii U version.
** A minor case, due to Thorn thinking they were all good [=LPs=], but he can no longer watch videos with an-artist-complex as co-commentator after they broke up, including ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonHeroOfLeafValley'' which he considers one of his best [=LPs=].

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** Thorn also has a negative view of his ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' LP due to seeing his commentary and chemistry with his guests as poor. It's currently the only completed LP by the team that will be restarted, has a planned remake, in this case with the ''HD'' Wii U version.
** A minor case, due to Thorn thinking they were all good [=LPs=], but he can no longer watch videos with his ex-girlfriend an-artist-complex as co-commentator after they broke up, including ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonHeroOfLeafValley'' which he considers one of his best [=LPs=].
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** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' [[RapeAsComedy ended up]]. He tones down the elements of Pibot he doesn't like when they bring the character back for ''VideoGame/TomodachiLife''.

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** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' [[RapeAsComedy ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' [[BlackComedyRape ended up]]. He tones down the elements of Pibot he doesn't like when they bring the character back for ''VideoGame/TomodachiLife''.
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** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' ended up. He tones down the elements of Pibot he doesn't like when they bring the character back for ''VideoGame/TomodachiLife''.

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** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' [[RapeAsComedy ended up.up]]. He tones down the elements of Pibot he doesn't like when they bring the character back for ''VideoGame/TomodachiLife''.
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** A minor case, due to Thorn thinking they were all good [=LPs=], but he can no longer watch videos with an-artist-complex as co-commentator after they broke up, including ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonHeroOfLeafValley'' which he considers one of his best [=LPs=].
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** Thorn also has a negative view of his ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' LP due to seeing his commentary as poor. It's currently the only completed LP by the team that will be restarted, in this case with the ''HD'' Wii U version.

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** Thorn also has a negative view of his ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' LP due to seeing his commentary and chemistry with his guests as poor. It's currently the only completed LP by the team that will be restarted, in this case with the ''HD'' Wii U version.
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* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: They've gotten flak from their viewers for having several Let's Plays running at one time, often with one or two [=LPs=] falling behind in the schedule. Whether their schedule remains consistent or not often depends on if they are working on outside projects at the same time, e.g. ''WebVideo/SgtFrogAbridged''.

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* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: They've gotten flak from their viewers for having several Let's Plays running at one time, often with one or two [=LPs=] falling behind in the schedule. Whether their schedule remains consistent or not often depends on if they have school or work priorities, or if they are working on outside projects at the same time, e.(e.g. ''WebVideo/SgtFrogAbridged''.''WebVideo/SgtFrogAbridged'').



** Neither Thorn or Yoshi are happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, with the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP being a tenuous exception. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems, and he later died as a result of those problems.

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** Neither Thorn or Yoshi are happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, with the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon64'' LP being a tenuous exception. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems, and he later died as a result of those problems.



** Their time with [=FATLPs=], due variously to the low quality of the recordings, gameplay and commentary, and to their sour relationships with the teammates they left. Some games were re-LP'd for TSN, such as ''A Link to the Past'' and ''Ocarina of Time'', and the possibility of re-[=LPing=] others like ''Pikmin'' are up in the air.

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** Their time with [=FATLPs=], due variously to the low quality of the recordings, gameplay and commentary, and to their sour relationships with the teammates they left. Some games were re-LP'd for TSN, such as ''A Link to the Past'' and ''Ocarina of Time'', and the possibility of re-[=LPing=] others like the first ''Pikmin'' are up in the air.



*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' LP that Thorn started mid-way through ''Ocarina of Time''. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP, since it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after the jump to Something Awful.

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*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' LP that Thorn started mid-way through ''Ocarina of Time''. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall post-Woodfall Temple during the ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP, collection video, since it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after the jump to Something Awful.Awful with the ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP.

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** Thorn also has a negative view of his ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' LP due to seeing his commentary as poor. It's currently the only completed LP by the team that will be restarted, in this case with the ''HD'' Wii U version.



** ''Pikmin 2'' was started in early 2011, following on from Yoshi [=LPing=] the first game for [=FATLPs=], but recurring hardware and recording problems saw it end early. It was brought back and completed in 2012 after Yoshi got a better capture card.

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** ''Pikmin 2'' was started in early 2011, following on from Yoshi [=LPing=] the first game for [=FATLPs=], but recurring hardware and recording problems saw it end early. It was brought back and completed in 2012 after Yoshi got a better computer and capture card.
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** Their time with [=FATLPs=], due variously to the low quality of the recordings, gameplay and commentary, and to their sour relationships with the teammates they left. The possibility of re-[=LPing=] some of these games for TSN, such as ''A Link to the Past'' and ''Pikmin'', is up in the air.

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** Their time with [=FATLPs=], due variously to the low quality of the recordings, gameplay and commentary, and to their sour relationships with the teammates they left. The possibility of re-[=LPing=] some of these Some games were re-LP'd for TSN, such as ''A Link to the Past'' and ''Pikmin'', is ''Ocarina of Time'', and the possibility of re-[=LPing=] others like ''Pikmin'' are up in the air.



** ''Majora's Mask'' was an early LP attempted by TSN! in 2010 shortly after leaving [=FATLPs=] and the last before joining Something Awful with ''VideoGame/BombermanHero''. Thorn gave up on it after the jump to SA, due to feeling like it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after ''Hero'''s success. He restarted it after ''Skyward Sword'' spawned the memetic character name [=PizzaJoe=] that he and Yoshi desperately wanted to use, and the LP opens with him [[MythologyGag deleting the original LP's save file]].

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** ''Majora's Mask'' was an early LP attempted by TSN! TSN in 2010 shortly after leaving [=FATLPs=] and the last before joining Something Awful with ''VideoGame/BombermanHero''. Thorn gave up on it after the jump to SA, due to feeling like it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after ''Hero'''s success. He restarted it after ''Skyward Sword'' spawned the memetic character name [=PizzaJoe=] that he and Yoshi desperately wanted to use, and the LP opens with him [[MythologyGag deleting the original LP's save file]].



** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread was thus revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], that August.

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** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread was thus revived, revived that August, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], that August.[=LPs=].
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* [[PromotedFanboy Promoted Fangirl]]: [[AllLowercaseLetters an-artist-complex]] draws many fanart pictures for the group, and she was asked to draw their first official logo. She is also collaborating with Thorn on [[Webcomic/TheLegendOfZeldaBookOfTheTraitor a Zelda webcomic]], and they are currently dating.

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* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: They've gotten flak from their viewers for having several Let's Plays running at one time, often with one or two [=LPs=] falling behind in the schedule.

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* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: They've gotten flak from their viewers for having several Let's Plays running at one time, often with one or two [=LPs=] falling behind in the schedule. Whether their schedule remains consistent or not often depends on if they are working on outside projects at the same time, e.g. ''WebVideo/SgtFrogAbridged''.



** Neither Thorn or Yoshi are happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, with the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP being a tenuous exception. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems and later died as a result of those problems.

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** Neither Thorn or Yoshi are happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, with the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP being a tenuous exception. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems problems, and he later died as a result of those problems.



** Blip.tv deleted multiple channels in late 2014, including TSN's abandoned channel and their previous LP group [=FATLPs=]. All of the pre-''Bomberman Hero'' Let's Plays were lost including ''The Legend of Zelda'', ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'', ''Pikmin'', and everything else canceled early, as none of it was backed up anywhere. Only what is still on [=YouTube=] remains; for [=FATLPs=] it's almost entirely short preview clips that linked to the full-length video on Blip[[note]]Only the first video in an LP tended to be uploaded to [=YouTube=] in full[[/note]], and for TSN it's a handful of videos from their first attempts at ''Majora's Mask'' and ''Pikmin 2'', plus a reupload of their review of ''The Hero of Time'' from [=FATLPs=]. TSN's remaining videos are set to unlisted and only accessible from [[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuhyyy6nra7V2obNaeHGovlF003MaPKdE this playlist.]]

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** Blip.tv deleted multiple channels in late 2014, including TSN's the abandoned channel channels for TSN and their previous LP group [=FATLPs=]. All of the pre-''Bomberman Hero'' Let's Plays were lost including ''The Legend of Zelda'', ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'', ''Pikmin'', and everything else canceled early, as none of it was backed up anywhere. Only what is still on [=YouTube=] remains; for [=FATLPs=] it's almost entirely short preview clips that linked to the full-length video on Blip[[note]]Only the first video in an LP tended to be uploaded to [=YouTube=] in full[[/note]], and for TSN it's a handful of videos from their first attempts at ''Majora's Mask'' and ''Pikmin 2'', plus a reupload of their review of ''The Hero of Time'' from [=FATLPs=]. TSN's remaining videos are set to unlisted and only accessible from [[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuhyyy6nra7V2obNaeHGovlF003MaPKdE this playlist.]]



** Their time with [=FATLPs=], due variously to the low quality of the videos and commentary, and to their sour relationships with the teammates they left.
** Every LP they did before making the jump to Website/SomethingAwful, since most of it was [[AbortedArc canceled out of frustration]] and [[RuleOfFun lack of enjoyment]], or because they were [=FATLPS=] carry-overs. These include:[[note]]See also UnCanceled below, which applies to many of the following[[/note]]
*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' carry-over LP from [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before the Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.
*** The very short-lived ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' LP. Abandoned 5 parts in after it very quickly stopped being fun, which undermined the fact that it was mainly to [[TakeThat mock the game]].
*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP, since it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after the jump to Something Awful.

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** Thorn mentions in the first part of ''Survival Kids'' that he was actually [=LPing=] the game for the second time - the first time was on an old personal channel. The original was spurned on by WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}'s videos on a ''Survival Kids'' subtitle LP, which convinced Thorn that he could LP the game better. However, his videos suffered from being recorded live to an old laptop with constant audio desync and poor video/commentary quality. The original LP is long gone, and he hopes Retsupurae never saw it.
** Their time with [=FATLPs=], due variously to the low quality of the videos recordings, gameplay and commentary, and to their sour relationships with the teammates they left.
left. The possibility of re-[=LPing=] some of these games for TSN, such as ''A Link to the Past'' and ''Pikmin'', is up in the air.
** Every LP they did before making the jump to Website/SomethingAwful, since most of it was [[AbortedArc canceled out of frustration]] and [[RuleOfFun lack of enjoyment]], or because they were [=FATLPS=] carry-overs. Most of these are no longer available to watch due to Blip.tv shutting down. These include:[[note]]See also UnCanceled below, which applies to many of the following[[/note]]
*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' carry-over LP from [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before the Water Temple due to endless irreparable technical difficulties difficulties, including the footage for the Biggoron Sword sidequest corrupting and a loss of enjoyment.
only recording the audio. Thorn gave up on it shortly after.
*** The very short-lived ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' LP. Abandoned 5 parts in after it very quickly stopped being fun, which undermined the fact that it the LP was mainly to [[TakeThat mock the game]].
*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' LP that Thorn tried doing started mid-way through [=OoT=].''Ocarina of Time''. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP, since it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after the jump to Something Awful.



** ''Ocarina of Time'' was the main carry-over from [=FATLPs=], and it was canceled before the Water Temple due to repeated recording failure. Thorn refused to LP it again unless he got a 3DS capture device and played the 3D remake instead, which happened in December 2014 and was completed in Summer 2015.
** ''Majora's Mask'' was an early LP attempted by TSN! in 2010 after leaving [=FATLPs=] and the last before joining Something Awful with ''VideoGame/BombermanHero''. Thorn gave up on it after the jump to SA, due to feeling like it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after ''Hero'''s success. He restarted it after ''Skyward Sword'' spawned the memetic character name [=PizzaJoe=] that he and Yoshi desperately wanted to use, and the LP opens with him [[MythologyGag deleting the original LP's save file]].
** ''Pikmin 2'' was started in early 2011, following on from Yoshi [=LPing=] the first game for [=FATLPs=], but recurring hardware and recording problems saw it end early. It was brought back and completed in 2012.
** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread was thus revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], in August.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When Thorn was [=LPing=] ''VideoGame/BombermanJetters'', many fans from both [=YouTube=] and Something Awful requested that he also play ''VideoGame/BombermanGeneration'', primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.

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** ''Ocarina of Time'' was the main carry-over from [=FATLPs=], and it was canceled before the Water Temple due to repeated recording failure. Thorn refused to LP it again unless he got a 3DS capture device and played the 3D remake instead, which happened in December 2014 and was completed in 2014. He managed this LP without issue through Summer 2015.
** ''Majora's Mask'' was an early LP attempted by TSN! in 2010 shortly after leaving [=FATLPs=] and the last before joining Something Awful with ''VideoGame/BombermanHero''. Thorn gave up on it after the jump to SA, due to feeling like it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after ''Hero'''s success. He restarted it after ''Skyward Sword'' spawned the memetic character name [=PizzaJoe=] that he and Yoshi desperately wanted to use, and the LP opens with him [[MythologyGag deleting the original LP's save file]].
** ''Pikmin 2'' was started in early 2011, following on from Yoshi [=LPing=] the first game for [=FATLPs=], but recurring hardware and recording problems saw it end early. It was brought back and completed in 2012.
2012 after Yoshi got a better capture card.
** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread was thus revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], in that August.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** During some Let's Plays, the guys sometimes tease future [=LPs=] that never come about, including the ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' series and ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' co-op.
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When Thorn was [=LPing=] ''VideoGame/BombermanJetters'', many fans from both [=YouTube=] and Something Awful requested that he also play ''VideoGame/BombermanGeneration'', primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.
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*** The original 2010 attempt at the ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2'' LP died with only 5 parts due to recurring hardware issues.

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*** The original 2010 2011 attempt at the ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2'' LP died with only 5 parts due to recurring hardware issues.

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* MissingEpisode: Blip.tv deleted multiple channels in late 2014, including TSN's abandoned channel and their previous LP group [=FATLPs=]. All of the pre-''Bomberman Hero'' Let's Plays were lost including ''The Legend of Zelda'', ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'', ''Pikmin'', and everything else canceled early, as none of it was backed up anywhere. Only what is still on [=YouTube=] remains; for [=FATLPs=] it's almost entirely short preview clips that linked to the full-length video on Blip[[note]]Only the first video in an LP tended to be uploaded to YouTube in full[[/note]], and for TSN it's a handful of videos from their first attempts at ''Majora's Mask'' and ''Pikmin 2'', plus a reupload of their review of ''The Hero of Time'' from [=FATLPs=]. TSN's remaining videos are set to unlisted and only accessible from [[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuhyyy6nra7V2obNaeHGovlF003MaPKdE this playlist.]]

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* MissingEpisode: MissingEpisode:
**
Blip.tv deleted multiple channels in late 2014, including TSN's abandoned channel and their previous LP group [=FATLPs=]. All of the pre-''Bomberman Hero'' Let's Plays were lost including ''The Legend of Zelda'', ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'', ''Pikmin'', and everything else canceled early, as none of it was backed up anywhere. Only what is still on [=YouTube=] remains; for [=FATLPs=] it's almost entirely short preview clips that linked to the full-length video on Blip[[note]]Only the first video in an LP tended to be uploaded to YouTube [=YouTube=] in full[[/note]], and for TSN it's a handful of videos from their first attempts at ''Majora's Mask'' and ''Pikmin 2'', plus a reupload of their review of ''The Hero of Time'' from [=FATLPs=]. TSN's remaining videos are set to unlisted and only accessible from [[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuhyyy6nra7V2obNaeHGovlF003MaPKdE this playlist.]]]]
** Many live streams were never recorded, although some still remain notorious to the team or viewers who were there, such as Travis' ''Dark Souls'' shield-only stream where he beat the Asylum Demon and Taurus Demon with a wooden shield he dubbed "Spank Plank".[[note]]Thorn recorded the Skype call and uploaded it to [=YouTube=], but the video itself was not recorded.[[/note]]
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** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread was thus be revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], in August.

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** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread was thus be revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], in August.

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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, with the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP being a tenuous exception. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems and later died as a result of those problems.

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* CreatorBacklash: CreatorBacklash:
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Neither Thorn or Yoshi are happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, with the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP being a tenuous exception. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems and later died as a result of those problems.problems.
** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' ended up. He tones down the elements of Pibot he doesn't like when they bring the character back for ''VideoGame/TomodachiLife''.
* MissingEpisode: Blip.tv deleted multiple channels in late 2014, including TSN's abandoned channel and their previous LP group [=FATLPs=]. All of the pre-''Bomberman Hero'' Let's Plays were lost including ''The Legend of Zelda'', ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'', ''Pikmin'', and everything else canceled early, as none of it was backed up anywhere. Only what is still on [=YouTube=] remains; for [=FATLPs=] it's almost entirely short preview clips that linked to the full-length video on Blip[[note]]Only the first video in an LP tended to be uploaded to YouTube in full[[/note]], and for TSN it's a handful of videos from their first attempts at ''Majora's Mask'' and ''Pikmin 2'', plus a reupload of their review of ''The Hero of Time'' from [=FATLPs=]. TSN's remaining videos are set to unlisted and only accessible from [[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuhyyy6nra7V2obNaeHGovlF003MaPKdE this playlist.]]



*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP.
*** The original 2010 attempt at the ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2'' LP (which only reached 5 parts) was outshined by the 2012 LP in every possible way.
** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' ended up.

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*** The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP.
LP, since it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after the jump to Something Awful.
*** The original 2010 attempt at the ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2'' LP (which died with only reached 5 parts) was outshined by the 2012 LP in every possible way.
** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' ended up.
parts due to recurring hardware issues.



** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread will thus be revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], in August.

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** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread will was thus be revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], in August.

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** Every LP they did before making the jump to Website/SomethingAwful, since most of it was [[AbortedArc canceled out of frustration]] and [[RuleOfFun lack of enjoyment]], or because they were [=FATLPS=] carry-overs. These include:
*** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] carry-over LP from [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.
*** The very short-lived VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 LP. Abandoned 5 parts in after it very quickly stopped being fun, which undermined the fact that it was mainly to [[TakeThat mock the game]].
*** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]] LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the [[VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} Bomberman Hero]] LP. He restarted it in November 2013.
*** The original 2010 attempt at the VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) was outshined by the 2012 LP in every possible way.
** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot ended up.

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** Every LP they did before making the jump to Website/SomethingAwful, since most of it was [[AbortedArc canceled out of frustration]] and [[RuleOfFun lack of enjoyment]], or because they were [=FATLPS=] carry-overs. These include:
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*** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] Time]]'' carry-over LP from [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before the Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.
*** The very short-lived VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' LP. Abandoned 5 parts in after it very quickly stopped being fun, which undermined the fact that it was mainly to [[TakeThat mock the game]].
*** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]] Mask]]'' LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the [[VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} Bomberman Hero]] LP. He restarted it in November 2013.
''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' LP.
*** The original 2010 attempt at the VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2 ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2'' LP (which only reached 5 parts) was outshined by the 2012 LP in every possible way.
** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot from ''Bomberman Hero'' ended up.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When Thorn was [=LPing=] Jetters, many fans from both [=YouTube=] and Something Awful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.

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* UnCanceled: Multiple [=LPs=] were cut short in the first few years but were eventually revived and completed later on:
** ''Ocarina of Time'' was the main carry-over from [=FATLPs=], and it was canceled before the Water Temple due to repeated recording failure. Thorn refused to LP it again unless he got a 3DS capture device and played the 3D remake instead, which happened in December 2014 and was completed in Summer 2015.
** ''Majora's Mask'' was an early LP attempted by TSN! in 2010 after leaving [=FATLPs=] and the last before joining Something Awful with ''VideoGame/BombermanHero''. Thorn gave up on it after the jump to SA, due to feeling like it wasn't good enough to warrant continuing after ''Hero'''s success. He restarted it after ''Skyward Sword'' spawned the memetic character name [=PizzaJoe=] that he and Yoshi desperately wanted to use, and the LP opens with him [[MythologyGag deleting the original LP's save file]].
** ''Pikmin 2'' was started in early 2011, following on from Yoshi [=LPing=] the first game for [=FATLPs=], but recurring hardware and recording problems saw it end early. It was brought back and completed in 2012.
** The ''VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}'' Megathread from 2012-2014 ended after only three games were completed due to a lack of support and enthusiasm. In 2015, Thorn set up a personal Patreon which included new Bomberman [=LPs=] as a milestone goal, which was passed within days. The Megathread will thus be revived, albeit condensed and focused on Thorn's promised [=LPs=], in August.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When Thorn was [=LPing=] Jetters, ''VideoGame/BombermanJetters'', many fans from both [=YouTube=] and Something Awful requested that he also play Generation, ''VideoGame/BombermanGeneration'', primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.
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* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: They've gotten flak from their viewers for having several Let's Plays running at one time, often with one or two [=LPs=] falling behind in the schedule.
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** Thorn noted in a podcast with the group's Patreon patrons that he openly regrets how his and Travis' characterization of Pibot ended up.

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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems and later died as a result of those problems.
* OldShame: Practically everything they did before making the jump to SomethingAwful, since most of it before then [[AbortedArc was canceled out of frustration and]] [[RuleOfFun lack of enjoyment]]. These include:
** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] carry-over LP from their days with [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.
*** Their time with [=FATLPs=] is equally Old Shame-ey, but at least they actually completed the games back then.
** The very short-lived VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 LP. Abandoned 5 parts in after it very quickly stopped being fun, which undermined the fact that it was mainly to [[TakeThat mock the game]].
** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]] LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the [[VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} Bomberman Hero]] LP. It was revived in November 2013.
** The original attempt at the VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.
* [[PromotedFanboy Promoted Fangirl]]: [[AllLowercaseLetters an-artist-complex]] draws many fanart pictures for the group, and she was asked to draw their first official logo. She is also collaborating with Thorn on [[Webcomic/TheLegendOfZeldaBookOfTheTraitor a Zelda webcomic]].
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Back when Thorn was [=LPing=] Jetters, many fans from both [=YouTube=] and Something Awful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.

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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe with the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP.LP being a tenuous exception. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems and later died as a result of those problems.
* OldShame: Practically everything OldShame:
** Their time with [=FATLPs=], due variously to the low quality of the videos and commentary, and to their sour relationships with the teammates they left.
** Every LP
they did before making the jump to SomethingAwful, Website/SomethingAwful, since most of it before then was [[AbortedArc was canceled out of frustration and]] frustration]] and [[RuleOfFun lack of enjoyment]].enjoyment]], or because they were [=FATLPS=] carry-overs. These include:
** *** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] carry-over LP from their days with [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.
*** Their time with [=FATLPs=] is equally Old Shame-ey, but at least they actually completed the games back then.
**
The very short-lived VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 LP. Abandoned 5 parts in after it very quickly stopped being fun, which undermined the fact that it was mainly to [[TakeThat mock the game]].
** *** The [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]] LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the [[VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} Bomberman Hero]] LP. It was revived He restarted it in November 2013.
** *** The original 2010 attempt at the VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is was outshined by the new one 2012 LP in every possible way.
* [[PromotedFanboy Promoted Fangirl]]: [[AllLowercaseLetters an-artist-complex]] draws many fanart pictures for the group, and she was asked to draw their first official logo. She is also collaborating with Thorn on [[Webcomic/TheLegendOfZeldaBookOfTheTraitor a Zelda webcomic]].
webcomic]], and they are currently dating.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Back when When Thorn was [=LPing=] Jetters, many fans from both [=YouTube=] and Something Awful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.

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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems.

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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems and later died as a result of those problems.



** The MajorasMask LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the [[VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} Bomberman Hero]] LP.
** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Back when Thorn was [=LPing=] Jetters, many fans from both YouTube and SomethingAwful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.

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** The MajorasMask [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]] LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the [[VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} Bomberman Hero]] LP.
LP. It was revived in November 2013.
** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.
* [[PromotedFanboy Promoted Fangirl]]: [[AllLowercaseLetters an-artist-complex]] draws many fanart pictures for the group, and she was asked to draw their first official logo. She is also collaborating with Thorn on [[Webcomic/TheLegendOfZeldaBookOfTheTraitor a Zelda webcomic]].
*
WhatCouldHaveBeen: Back when Thorn was [=LPing=] Jetters, many fans from both YouTube [=YouTube=] and SomethingAwful Something Awful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.
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* MythologyGag: During his second attempt at Lets Playing Majora's Mask, Thorn opens the video by deleting the save file from the original LP.
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* MythologyGag: During his second attempt at Lets Playing Majora's Mask, Thorn opens the video by deleting the save file from the original LP.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Back when Thorn was LPing Jetters, many fans from both YouTube and SomethingAwful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Back when Thorn was LPing [=LPing=] Jetters, many fans from both YouTube and SomethingAwful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.
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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the most-recent, scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP.

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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the most-recent, scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP.LP. However even that one is HarsherInHindsight by Thorn's admission, since he played it as a joke intervention, and within a year Fail had to give up alcohol because of liver problems.
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** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.

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** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.way.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Back when Thorn was LPing Jetters, many fans from both YouTube and SomethingAwful requested that he also play Generation, primarily to hear Travis' reactions to Constructor-X and Assault Bomber. Though Thorn eventually played it, Travis was absent for the video that covered both battles.
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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their {{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the most-recent, scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP.

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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their {{Retsupurae}}s, WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the most-recent, scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP.
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** The OcarinaOfTime carry-over LP from their days with [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.

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** The OcarinaOfTime [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] carry-over LP from their days with [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.
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Someone put that on the Sgt Frog Abridged page as well, so I\'ll reiterate: I think this only applies to actual celebrities, and I\'m not a celebrity


** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.
* OneOfUs: Just look at Thorn Brain's potholed name on the main Strawhat NO page, it's to his TV Tropes account.

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** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.
* OneOfUs: Just look at Thorn Brain's potholed name on the main Strawhat NO page, it's to his TV Tropes account.
way.
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** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.

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** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.way.
* OneOfUs: Just look at Thorn Brain's potholed name on the main Strawhat NO page, it's to his TV Tropes account.
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* CreatorBacklash: Neither Thorn or Yoshi are very happy with their {{Retsupurae}}s, except maybe the most-recent, scripted one of [=MrFailGame's=] VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 LP.
* OldShame: Practically everything they did before making the jump to SomethingAwful, since most of it before then [[AbortedArc was canceled out of frustration and]] [[RuleOfFun lack of enjoyment]]. These include:
** The OcarinaOfTime carry-over LP from their days with [=FATLPs=]. Abandoned before Water Temple due to endless technical difficulties and a loss of enjoyment.
*** Their time with [=FATLPs=] is equally Old Shame-ey, but at least they actually completed the games back then.
** The very short-lived VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 LP. Abandoned 5 parts in after it very quickly stopped being fun, which undermined the fact that it was mainly to [[TakeThat mock the game]].
** The MajorasMask LP that Thorn tried doing mid-way through [=OoT=]. Ultimately abandoned after the Woodfall Temple during the [[VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} Bomberman Hero]] LP.
** The original attempt at the {{Pikmin}} 2 LP (which only reached 5 parts) is outshined by the new one in every possible way.

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