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** Rogue Two is played by Christopher Malcolm, who would later play Kirk Matunas in ''Film/{{Highlander}}'', and also originated the role of Brad Majors in ''Theatre/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow''.

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** Rogue Two is played by Christopher Malcolm, who would later play the vigilante Kirk Matunas in ''Film/{{Highlander}}'', and also originated the role of Brad Majors in ''Theatre/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow''.
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** BillyDeeWilliams (Lando) would later appear in the TimBurton ''Film/{{Batman}}'' film.

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** BillyDeeWilliams (Lando) would later appear in the TimBurton Creator/TimBurton ''Film/{{Batman}}'' film.
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** Rogue Two is played by Christopher Malcolm, who would later play Kirk Matunas in ''Film/{{Highlander}}''. The gun nut.
** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.

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** Rogue Two is played by Christopher Malcolm, who would later play Kirk Matunas in ''Film/{{Highlander}}''. The gun nut.
''Film/{{Highlander}}'', and also originated the role of Brad Majors in ''Theatre/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow''.
** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.
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** Rogue Two is played by Christopher Malcolm, who would later play Kirk Matunas in ''{{Highlander}}''. The gun nut.

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** Rogue Two is played by Christopher Malcolm, who would later play Kirk Matunas in ''{{Highlander}}''.''Film/{{Highlander}}''. The gun nut.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In Leigh Brackett's initial script draft, Vader is explicitly ''not'' Luke's father; Anakin appears to Luke on Dagobah as a Force Ghost, alongside Obi-Wan. As well, it's revealed that Luke has a twin sister: not Leia, but someone else called Nellith. She's mentioned but never seen, in what was intended as a SequelHook for later episodes (note the plural). This was probably what Lucas had in mind when he inserted the "there is another" line. Then Brackett died, and the filming on ''Empire'' was so chaotic that he decided to wrap up the saga with only one more film, which led him to make the "other" into somebody we already knew and turn Vader into Anakin (while also developing BackStory that would later inspire the prequels).

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In Leigh Brackett's Creator/LeighBrackett's initial script draft, Vader is explicitly ''not'' Luke's father; Anakin appears to Luke on Dagobah as a Force Ghost, alongside Obi-Wan. As well, it's revealed that Luke has a twin sister: not Leia, but someone else called Nellith. She's mentioned but never seen, in what was intended as a SequelHook for later episodes (note the plural). This was probably what Lucas had in mind when he inserted the "there is another" line. Then Brackett died, and the filming on ''Empire'' was so chaotic that he decided to wrap up the saga with only one more film, which led him to make the "other" into somebody we already knew and turn Vader into Anakin (while also developing BackStory that would later inspire the prequels).
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** This could also just be either George trolling again, or the quote was taken out of context. Which, consider this fandom, would not be surprising.

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** This could also just be either George trolling again, or the quote was taken out of context. Which, consider considering this fandom, would not be surprising.
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*** More like Fozzie Bear.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In Leigh Brackett's initial script draft, Vader is explicitly ''not'' Luke's father; Anakin appears to Luke on Dagobah as a Force Ghost, alongside Obi-Wan. As well, it's revealed that Luke has a twin sister: not Leia, but someone else called Nellith. She's mentioned but never seen, in what was intended as a SequelHook for later episodes (note the plural). This was probably what Lucas had in mind when he inserted the "there is another" line. However, the filming on ''Empire'' was so chaotic that he decided to wrap up the saga with only one more film, which led him to make the "other" into somebody we already knew.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In Leigh Brackett's initial script draft, Vader is explicitly ''not'' Luke's father; Anakin appears to Luke on Dagobah as a Force Ghost, alongside Obi-Wan. As well, it's revealed that Luke has a twin sister: not Leia, but someone else called Nellith. She's mentioned but never seen, in what was intended as a SequelHook for later episodes (note the plural). This was probably what Lucas had in mind when he inserted the "there is another" line. However, Then Brackett died, and the filming on ''Empire'' was so chaotic that he decided to wrap up the saga with only one more film, which led him to make the "other" into somebody we already knew.knew and turn Vader into Anakin (while also developing BackStory that would later inspire the prequels).
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** Rogue Two is played by Christopher Malcolm, who would later play Kirk Matunas in ''{{Highlander}}''. The gun nut.
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** This could also just be either George trolling again, or the quote was taken out of context. Which, consider this fandom, would not be surprising.
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** Hobbie is voiced by CoreyBurton, a.k.a. [[StarWarsTheCloneWars Count Dooku]]!

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** Hobbie is voiced by CoreyBurton, Creator/CoreyBurton, a.k.a. [[StarWarsTheCloneWars Count Dooku]]!
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* CreatorBacklash: GeorgeLucas called ''Empire'' "the worst ''Star Wars'' film". [[http://thisisanadventure.com/2011/02/george-lucas-reconsidered/ Yes, really.]] Though, then again, problems with filming and it's original reception need to be remembered, since at the time of its release the film was considered worse than the original by critics and many moviegoers.

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* CreatorBacklash: GeorgeLucas Creator/GeorgeLucas called ''Empire'' "the worst ''Star Wars'' film". [[http://thisisanadventure.com/2011/02/george-lucas-reconsidered/ Yes, really.]] Though, then again, problems with filming and it's its original reception need to be remembered, since at the time of its release the film was considered worse than the original by critics and many moviegoers.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]] as Yoda!

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** Hobbie is voiced by CoreyBurton, a.k.a. [[StarWarsTheCloneWars Count Dooku]]!
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Like I said, I don\'t think Lucas hates Empire, I just think that people are blowing that one comment out of proportions.


* OldShame: See CreatorBacklash, and is pretty much the only non-ExpandedUniverse related StarWars work that Lucas expressed distaste at besides TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial.

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I don\'t think so, and I don\'t think Lucas hates this movie at all. Anywhere outside of that article he has nothing but praise for the movie and its the movie that has recieved the least amount of changes out of the Original Trilogy. And Kershner was a very good friend of his as well.


* CreatorBacklash: GeorgeLucas called ''Empire'' "the worst ''Star Wars'' film". [[http://thisisanadventure.com/2011/02/george-lucas-reconsidered/ Yes, really.]] Though, then again, problems with filming and it's original reception need to be remembered.
** The fact that Lucas had little involvement in ''Empire'' was probably also one of the reasons for his comment as well.

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* CreatorBacklash: GeorgeLucas called ''Empire'' "the worst ''Star Wars'' film". [[http://thisisanadventure.com/2011/02/george-lucas-reconsidered/ Yes, really.]] Though, then again, problems with filming and it's original reception need to be remembered.
** The fact that Lucas had little involvement in ''Empire''
remembered, since at the time of its release the film was probably also one of considered worse than the reasons for his comment as well.original by critics and many moviegoers.
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Then it doesn\'t really belong anymore.


** LukeIAmYourIndex (now known as FamilyTwistsIndex)
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* TropeNamer For:
** DontMakeMeDestroyYou
** LukeIAmYourFather ([[BeamMeUpScotty a misquote]])
** LukeIAmYourIndex (now known as FamilyTwistsIndex)
** NeverTellMeTheOdds
** ThereIsAnother
** ThereIsNoTry
** YouAreInCommandNow
** YouHaveFailedMe
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** The fact that Lucas had little involvement in ''Empire'' was probably also one of the reasons for his comment as well.


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* OldShame: See CreatorBacklash, and is pretty much the only non-ExpandedUniverse related StarWars work that Lucas expressed distaste at besides TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial.

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* LastSecondWordSwap: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, MarkHamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan, and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.

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* LastSecondWordSwap: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Ben Obi-Wan killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, MarkHamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan, and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.


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** Also, an earlier draft had Luke's reason for not leaving with Lando & Chewie at the end being that his Jedi training was more important. Believing that this would make Luke seem less sympathetic, Irvin Kershner had it changed to where Luke was still recovering from his injuries and that rescuing Han would be his first priority once he was fully recovered.
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* CreatorBacklash: GeorgeLucas called ''Empire'' "the worst ''Star Wars'' film". [[http://thisisanadventure.com/2011/02/george-lucas-reconsidered/ Yes, really.]] Though, then again, problems with filming and it's original reception need to be remembered.
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** John Ratzenberger {''{{Cheers}}''' Cliff Clavin is Rebel Major Derlin: "Everybody to their stations! Let's go!"

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** John Ratzenberger {''{{Cheers}}''' (''{{Cheers}}''' Cliff Clavin Clavin) is Rebel Major Derlin: "Everybody to their stations! Let's go!"
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** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJones and the [[IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade Last Crusade]]''.

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** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''ForYourEyesOnly'' ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJones and the [[IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade Last Crusade]]''.''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.



** [[{{Cheers}} Cliff Clavin]] is Rebel Major Derlin: "Everybody to their stations! Let's go!"

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** [[{{Cheers}} John Ratzenberger {''{{Cheers}}''' Cliff Clavin]] Clavin is Rebel Major Derlin: "Everybody to their stations! Let's go!"



* LastSecondWordSwap: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, Mark Hamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan, and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.
* TheOtherDarrin / ReCut: The original Emperor hologram was a woman with superimposed chimpanzee eyes and the voice of Clive Revill. The DVD changed him to Ian [=McDiarmid=], who played the Emperor in the other films. (and was one of the few changes no one complained about!)

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* LastSecondWordSwap: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, Mark Hamill MarkHamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan, and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.
* TheOtherDarrin / ReCut: TheOtherDarrin[=/=]ReCut: The original Emperor hologram was a woman with superimposed chimpanzee eyes and the voice of Clive Revill. The DVD changed him to Ian [=McDiarmid=], who played the Emperor in the other films. (and was one of the few changes no one complained about!)
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** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJones and the LastCrusade''.

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** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJones and the LastCrusade''.[[IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade Last Crusade]]''.



* LastMinuteWordSwap: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, Mark Hamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan, and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.

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* LastMinuteWordSwap: LastSecondWordSwap: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, Mark Hamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan, and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.

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** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.

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** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.''IndianaJones and the LastCrusade''.



* HeyItsThatVoice: [[TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]] as Yoda!
* LastMinuteWordSwap: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, Mark Hamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan, and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.
* TheOtherDarrin / ReCut: The original Emperor hologram was a woman with superimposed chimpanzee eyes and the voice of Clive Revill. The DVD changed him to Ian [=McDiarmid=], who played the Emperor in the other films. (and was one of the few changes no one complained about!)
* TroubledProduction: It went over budget and behind schedule, and the Hoth location shoot in Norway was plagued by a strong snowstorm and overcharges by the locals (who knew they had to cash in, given the success of the predecessor; Lucas shot ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' under a fake name to avert this price gouging).



* LastMinuteWordChange: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, the body actor said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. However, at the last minute, the line was changed to say "No, I am your father", so that way no one could ruin the surprise twist because no one KNEW the surprise twist.
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** Julian Glover(General Veers) would play villains Kristatos in ''ForYourEyesOnly'' and Donovan in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.
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* [[{{Cheers}} Cliff Clavin]] is Rebel Major Derlin: "Everybody to their stations! Let's go!"

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* ** [[{{Cheers}} Cliff Clavin]] is Rebel Major Derlin: "Everybody to their stations! Let's go!"
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* [[{{Cheers}} Cliff Clavin]] is Rebel Major Derlin: "Everybody to their stations! Let's go!"
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* LastMinuteWordChange: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, the body actor said "No, Ben killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. However, at the last minute, the line was changed to say "No, I am your father", so that way no one could ruin the surprise twist because no one KNEW the surprise twist.
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** MichaelSheard (AdolfHitler in ''IndianaJones'', SadistTeacher Mr Bronson in ''GrangeHill'', and various roles in ''DoctorWho'') is Admiral Ozzel.

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** MichaelSheard (AdolfHitler in ''IndianaJones'', SadistTeacher Mr Bronson in ''GrangeHill'', and various roles in ''DoctorWho'') ''Series/DoctorWho'') is Admiral Ozzel.
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** MichaelSheard (AdolfHitler in ''IndianaJones'', SadistTeacher Mr Bronson in ''GrangeHill'', and various roles in ''DoctorWho'') is Admiral Ozzel.
** BillyDeeWilliams (Lando) would later appear in the TimBurton ''Film/{{Batman}}'' film.

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