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** On the console modding side, while the [=PS4=] does allow mods, Sony only allows them if they don't use any new textures[[note]]The Xbox One allows them as long as they are under a certain file size; the Switch port, on the other hand, doesn't allow mods at all[[/note]], meaning that a large number of very popular mods can't be ported to the console. Strangely, this ban ''only'' applies to mods downloaded off of Bethesda.net, since content from Bethesda's Creation Club has no such problems.

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** On the console modding side, while the [=PS4=] does allow mods, Sony only allows them if they don't use any new textures[[note]]The Xbox One allows them as long as they are under a certain file size; the Switch port, on the other hand, doesn't allow mods at all[[/note]], meaning that a large number of very popular mods can't be ported to the console. Strangely, this ban ''only'' applies to mods downloaded off of Bethesda.net, since content from Bethesda's Creation Club has no such problems.problems, possibly because Sony considers them DLC.



** For whatever reason, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4adW20qUY most NPCs]] have the line "Oh, I don't believe those rumors, my friend. Besides, who would ever want to harm such beauty?" - while most of these suggest that someone else was supposed to take Asta's place during the Eldergleam quest at one point, for whatever reason it also includes some unique [=NPCs=], such as Brynjolf, Cicero, and ''Malacath'', who shouldn't have any reason to comment on the tree.
** Although Nazeem and his wife Ahlam lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existent house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location[[note]]factions for housing are used so NPCs can report the player trespassing[[/note]]), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm. Strangely, Acolyte Jensen ''also'' carries a key to this non-existent manor (and he would've also been a member of the custom faction as well), and this, combined with Nazeem and his wife having a strained marriage, suggests that Jensen and Ahlam would've been having an ''affair''.

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** For whatever reason, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4adW20qUY most NPCs]] have the line "Oh, I don't believe those rumors, my friend. Besides, who would ever want to harm such beauty?" - while most of these suggest that someone else was supposed to take Asta's place during the Eldergleam quest at one point, or it would've been your follower who would make the comment, for whatever reason it also includes some unique [=NPCs=], such as Brynjolf, Cicero, Brynjolf and ''Malacath'', who shouldn't have any reason to comment on the tree.
** Although Nazeem and his wife Ahlam lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existent house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location[[note]]factions for housing are used so NPCs can report the player trespassing[[/note]]), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm. Strangely, Acolyte Jensen ''also'' carries a key to this non-existent manor (and he would've also been a member of the custom faction as well), and this, combined with Nazeem and his wife having a strained marriage, suggests that Jensen and Ahlam would've been having an ''affair''.''affair''[[note]]although it's also possible - but rather unlikely - that it was ''Nazeem'' that was having the affair, given that he's AmbiguouslyBi[[/note]].
** As evident by how she greets the player after putting her husband's war horn at the Shrine of Talos in Whiterun Hold, at one point, the player would've been able to marry ''Elisif the Fair''. Presumably, Bethesda scrapped this idea because it would've made the Last Dragonborn High King of Skyrim if they sided with the Imperials.
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** Claudia Christian voices Legate Rikke, Aela the Huntress, the spirit of Queen Potema, Faleen in Markarth, and a few other characters.

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** Claudia Christian Creator/ClaudiaChristian voices Legate Rikke, Aela the Huntress, the spirit of Queen Potema, Faleen in Markarth, and a few other characters.
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* ChristmasRushed: It is very possible that this game suffers from it. When fans looked at the game-files with the Level Editor, it was revealed Bethesda had more expansive plans for the game than what was seen in the final product, most notably some complex quests and scripts that sadly did not make the final cut. Examples are a dynamic civil war, an arena in Windhelm, and a questline to help Mjoll the Lioness bring down the Thieves' Guild. Many of these were probably cut because the game had to be released on November 11, 2011, so the creators did not have enough time to implement all of their plans. As a result, many of the storylines in the game feel rushed when compared to earlier installments of the franchise. Fortunately, though, modders came to the rescue for PC players, and many of the cut quests have been restored, most notably the civil war and arena.

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* ChristmasRushed: It is very possible that this game suffers from it. When fans looked at the game-files with the Level Editor, it was revealed Bethesda had more expansive plans for the game than what was seen in the final product, most notably some complex quests and scripts that sadly did not make the final cut. Examples are a dynamic civil war, an arena in Windhelm, and a questline to help Mjoll the Lioness bring down the Thieves' Guild. Many of these were probably cut because the game had to be released on November 11, 2011, so the creators developers did not have enough time to implement all of their plans. As a result, many of the storylines in the game feel rushed when compared to earlier installments of the franchise. Fortunately, though, modders came to the rescue for PC players, and many of the cut quests have been restored, most notably the civil war and arena.
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* ChristmasRushed: It is very possible that this game suffers from it. When fans looked at the game-files with the Level Editor, it was revealed the creators planned to implement complex quests and scripts that sadly did not make the final cut. Examples are a dynamic civil war, an arena in Windhelm, and a questline to help Mjoll the Lioness bring down the Thieves' Guild. Many of these were probably cut because the game had to be released on November 11, 2011, so the creators did not have enough time to implement all of their plans. As a result, many of the storylines in the game feel rushed when compared to earlier installments of the franchise. Fortunately, though, modders came to the rescue for PC players, and many of the cut quests have been restored, most notably the civil war and arena.

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* ChristmasRushed: It is very possible that this game suffers from it. When fans looked at the game-files with the Level Editor, it was revealed Bethesda had more expansive plans for the creators planned to implement game than what was seen in the final product, most notably some complex quests and scripts that sadly did not make the final cut. Examples are a dynamic civil war, an arena in Windhelm, and a questline to help Mjoll the Lioness bring down the Thieves' Guild. Many of these were probably cut because the game had to be released on November 11, 2011, so the creators did not have enough time to implement all of their plans. As a result, many of the storylines in the game feel rushed when compared to earlier installments of the franchise. Fortunately, though, modders came to the rescue for PC players, and many of the cut quests have been restored, most notably the civil war and arena.
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** Although Nazeem and his wife Ahlam lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existent house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location[[note]]factions for housing are used so NPCs can report the player trespassing[[/note]]), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm. Strangely, Acolyte Jensen ''also'' carries a key to this non-existent manor (and he would've also been a member of the custom faction as well), and this, combined with Nazeem and his wife having a strained marriage, suggests that Jenssen and Ahlam would've been having an ''affair''.

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** Although Nazeem and his wife Ahlam lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existent house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location[[note]]factions for housing are used so NPCs can report the player trespassing[[/note]]), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm. Strangely, Acolyte Jensen ''also'' carries a key to this non-existent manor (and he would've also been a member of the custom faction as well), and this, combined with Nazeem and his wife having a strained marriage, suggests that Jenssen Jensen and Ahlam would've been having an ''affair''.



*** Additionally, Mercer and Enthir share a voice actor (Stephen Russell). It's jarring to say the least during Thieves' Guild questline, given that Mercer [[spoiler: servers as the main antagonist]], while Enthir plays a critical role in taking him down.

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*** Additionally, Mercer and Enthir share a voice actor (Stephen Russell). It's jarring to say the least during Thieves' Guild questline, given that Mercer [[spoiler: servers serves as the main antagonist]], while Enthir plays a critical role in taking him down.

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** Claudia Christian voices Legate Rikke, Aela the Huntress, and a few other characters.
** It's kinda surreal to talk to Elisif's servant, Erdi, and then find out that Elisif herself sounds exactly like her.
*** This is why some fans headcanon that Erdi is either related to Elisif, or perhaps serves as some sort of impersonator for the Jarl in case of an emergency.

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** Claudia Christian voices Legate Rikke, Aela the Huntress, the spirit of Queen Potema, Faleen in Markarth, and a few other characters.
** It's kinda surreal to talk to Corri English voices Idgrod the Younger, Ingun Black-Briar, Nilsine Shatter-Shield, Brelyna Maryon, and Camilla Valerius, among others.
*** She also voices both Jarl Elisif the Fair ''and''
Elisif's servant, personal maid, Erdi, and then find out that Elisif herself sounds exactly like her.
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which can be a little weird if you speak to both of them in a short period of time. This is why some fans headcanon that Erdi is either related to Elisif, or perhaps Elisif or, perhaps, serves as some sort of impersonator for the Jarl in case of an emergency.



*** Additionally, Mercer and Enthir share a voice actor. It's jarring to say the least during Thieves' Guild questline, given that Mercer [[spoiler: servers as the main antagonist]], while Enthir plays a critical role in taking him down.
** Creator/GideonEmery is encountered twice in the Dark Brotherhood questline - he voices both Arcturus and Commander Maro's son Gaius. He also voices a few random Imperial archers who can be met on the road.

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*** Additionally, Mercer and Enthir share a voice actor.actor (Stephen Russell). It's jarring to say the least during Thieves' Guild questline, given that Mercer [[spoiler: servers as the main antagonist]], while Enthir plays a critical role in taking him down.
** Creator/GideonEmery is encountered twice in the Dark Brotherhood questline - he voices both Arcturus and Commander Maro's son Gaius. He also voices a few random Imperial archers who can be met on the road.road.
** Colleen Delaney voices Nenya (the steward in Falkreath), Ria of the Companions, Vittoria Vici, Keeper Carcette, and Aphia Velothi (from ''Dragonborn''), for starters.

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** Tullius' second-in-command, Legate Rikke, was also a serious female military officer... on a certain [[Series/{{Babylon 5}} space station]].

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** Tullius' Tullius's second-in-command, Legate Rikke, was also a serious female military officer... on a certain [[Series/{{Babylon 5}} space station]].



** Serana, the female vampire who accompanies you throughout most of the ''Dawnguard'' questline, is voiced by Creator/LauraBailey. This isn't the first time she's voiced a [[VideoGame/BloodRayne vampire]] or a [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft magic user]].

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** Serana, the female vampire necromancer who accompanies you throughout most of the ''Dawnguard'' questline, is voiced by Creator/LauraBailey. This isn't the first time she's voiced a [[VideoGame/BloodRayne vampire]] or a [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft magic user]].



** On the console modding side, while the [=PS4=] does allow mods...Sony only allows them if they don't use any new textures[[note]]The Xbox One allows them as long as they are under a certain file size; the Switch port, on the other hand, doesn't allow mods at all[[/note]], meaning that a large number of very popular mods can't be ported to the console. Strangely, this ban ''only'' applies from mods downloaded off of Bethesda.net, since content from Bethesda's Creation Club has no such problems.

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** On the console modding side, while the [=PS4=] does allow mods...mods, Sony only allows them if they don't use any new textures[[note]]The Xbox One allows them as long as they are under a certain file size; the Switch port, on the other hand, doesn't allow mods at all[[/note]], meaning that a large number of very popular mods can't be ported to the console. Strangely, this ban ''only'' applies from to mods downloaded off of Bethesda.net, since content from Bethesda's Creation Club has no such problems.



** Popeye Vogelsang voices Stenvar the mercenary, who can be hired as a follower at Candlehearth Hall in Windhelm; after he's been a follower, he becomes a possible spouse. Vogelsang also voices Argis the Bulwark, who is appointed housecarl to the Dragonborn if they become Thane of the Reach. Should the Dragonborn marry Stenvar, then move him into Vlindrel Hall in Markarth along with Argis, the two can sometimes be heard arguing with each other - usually about dropped items.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: It is quite evident that quite a lot of the content was planned for ''Skyrim'' didn't end up in the final version of the game, and some of it even made to a more or less finished state, but was ultimately DummiedOut, most likely due to the game being ChristmasRushed.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: It is quite evident that quite a lot of the content was planned for ''Skyrim'' didn't end up in the final version of the game, and some game. Some of it even made it to a more or less finished state, but was ultimately DummiedOut, most likely due to the game being ChristmasRushed.



** There is an absolute metric ton of lines and dialogue cut from the game, and it's not just a case they were taken out as they are all still there and easily modded back in. Instead of the standard "arrow in the knee" and WelcomeToCorneria comments followers and [=NPCs=] can have full on conversations with you, and each other.

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** There is an absolute metric ton of lines and dialogue cut from the game, and it's not just a case they were matter of them being taken out out, as they are all still there and easily modded put back in. in with mods. Instead of the standard "arrow in the knee" and WelcomeToCorneria comments comments, followers and [=NPCs=] can have full on conversations with you, and each other.



** Michael Kirkbride said in a Reddit post that the banning of Talos would have a very devastating cosmic effect on Nirn. Namely, any attempt to depict the Red Diamond emblem in any form will have horrific consequences. A painter who paints it will have his painting turned into that of a 2D explosion. A blacksmith who forges it will have his work crumble after a while. A singer who describes the symbol in a song will cause anyone who listens to it to have their head exploded. Apparently, this was going to become a minor plot point, with Talos worshipers trying to figure out how to safely depict his emblem. Though the effect didn't make it into the game, the cracked Red Dragon symbol is a nod to this, and Kirkbride confirmed that the effect might appear in future titles.
** Serana's voiceset includes a dying scream, despite Serana being forever flagged essential, even after full completion of the ''Dawnguard'' questline. It hints that, at some point in the game development, her death was possible.
** One loading screen mentions users of the Lady Stone "regenerate their health and stamina much faster ''for awhile''", implying the Lady Stone was initially planned to grant an active ability instead of a passive, permanent buff.

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** Michael Kirkbride said in a Reddit post that the banning of Talos would have a very devastating cosmic effect on Nirn. Namely, any attempt to depict the Red Diamond emblem in any form will have horrific consequences. A painter who paints it will have his painting turned into that of a 2D explosion. A blacksmith who forges it will have his work crumble after a while. A singer who describes the symbol in a song will cause anyone who listens to it to have their head exploded.explode. Apparently, this was going to become a minor plot point, with Talos worshipers trying to figure out how to safely depict his emblem. Though the effect didn't make it into the game, the cracked Red Dragon symbol is a nod to this, and Kirkbride confirmed that the effect might appear in future titles.
** Serana's voiceset includes a dying scream, despite Serana being forever flagged essential, even after full completion of the ''Dawnguard'' questline. It This hints that, at some point in the game development, her death was possible.
** One loading screen mentions that users of the Lady Stone "regenerate their health and stamina much faster ''for awhile''", implying a while''." This implies that the Lady Stone was initially planned to grant an active ability instead of a passive, permanent buff.



** The idea that the Champion of Cyrodiil is Sheogorath in Skyrim has been {{Jossed}} by Michael Kirkbride in a Reddit [[https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2ya7et/did_the_champion_of_cyrodiil_become_sheogorath/cp8c2ld/ post]]. However, Kirkbride said so based on the design documents of Oblivion and stopped working for Bethesda after that game, so he didn't know if it still held true by the time of Skyrim and encouraged players to make up their own conclusions.

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** The idea that the Champion of Cyrodiil is Sheogorath in Skyrim ''Skyrim'' has been {{Jossed}} by Michael Kirkbride in a Reddit [[https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2ya7et/did_the_champion_of_cyrodiil_become_sheogorath/cp8c2ld/ post]]. However, Kirkbride said so based on the design documents of Oblivion ''Oblivion'', and stopped working for Bethesda after that game, so he didn't know if it still held true by the time of Skyrim ''Skyrim'' and encouraged players to make up their own conclusions.


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** Popeye Vogelsang voices Farkas of the Companions, the Riften blacksmith Balimund, the Markarth housecarl Argis the Bulwark, Yngvar the Singer, Stenvar the mercenary in Windhelm, and a handful of other [=NPCs=].
** Claudia Christian voices Legate Rikke, Aela the Huntress, and a few other characters.

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* ChristmasRushed: It is very possible that this game suffers from it. When fans looked at the game-files with the Level Editor, it was revealed the creators planned to implement complex quests and scripts that sadly did not make the final cut. Examples are a dynamic civil war, an arena in Windhelm, and a questline to help Mjoll the Lioness bring down the Thieves' Guild. Many of these were probably cut because the game had to be released on November the 11th 2011, so the creators did not have enough time to implement all of their plans. As a result, many of the storylines in the game feel rushed when compared to earlier installments of the franchise. Fortunately, though, modders came to the rescue, and many of the cut quests have been restored, most notably the civil war and arena.

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* ChristmasRushed: It is very possible that this game suffers from it. When fans looked at the game-files with the Level Editor, it was revealed the creators planned to implement complex quests and scripts that sadly did not make the final cut. Examples are a dynamic civil war, an arena in Windhelm, and a questline to help Mjoll the Lioness bring down the Thieves' Guild. Many of these were probably cut because the game had to be released on November the 11th 11, 2011, so the creators did not have enough time to implement all of their plans. As a result, many of the storylines in the game feel rushed when compared to earlier installments of the franchise. Fortunately, though, modders came to the rescue, rescue for PC players, and many of the cut quests have been restored, most notably the civil war and arena.



* NewbieBoom: ''Skyrim'' is the best-selling ''Elder Scrolls'' game of all time, and introduced an entire generation of gamers to Bethesda's style of open-world RPG. It created an even bigger newbie explosion in TES than ''Morrowind'' did.



* NewbieBoom: ''Skyrim'' is the best-selling Elder Scrolls game of all time, and introduced an entire generation of gamers to Bethesda's style of open-world RPG. It created an even bigger newbie explosion in TES than ''Morrowind'' did.



* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The original Skyrim, otherwise called "The Legendary Edition", is, as of 2017, delisted for Steam, and while it can still be bought for those who didn't own it, it isn't eligible for price cuts at all and must be bought with the [=DLCs=] separately.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The original Skyrim, ''Skyrim'', otherwise called "The Legendary Edition", is, as of 2017, delisted for Steam, and Steam; while it can still be bought for those who didn't own it, it isn't eligible for price cuts at all and must be bought with the [=DLCs=] separately.



** Stephen Russell voices both Clavicus Vile and Barbas.
*** Considering that they are two aspects of the same entity, this works pretty well.

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** Stephen Russell voices both Clavicus Vile and Barbas.
*** Considering
Barbas. Of course, considering that they are two aspects of the same entity, this works pretty well.



** It seems that the Civil War was originally going to have several new features, such as all five main holds being attacked by their opposing side, as well as new radiant quests. At least some of these features were restored with apollodown's popular Civil War Overhaul mod. Sadly, this mod was taken down by the creator out of irritation that some people complained about making both armies more diverse.

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** It seems that the Civil War was originally going to have several new features, such as all five main holds being attacked by their opposing side, as well as new radiant quests. At least some of these features were restored with apollodown's popular Civil "Civil War Overhaul Overhaul" mod. Sadly, this mod was taken down by the creator out of irritation that some people complained about making both armies more diverse.



** Michael Kirkbride said in a Reddit post that the banning of Talos would have a very devastating cosmic effect on Nirn. Namely, any attempt to depict the Red Diamond emblem in any form will have horrific consequences. A painter who paints it will have his painting turned into that of a 2D explosion. A blacksmith who forges it will have his work crumble after a while. A singer who describes the symbol in a song will cause anyone who listens to it to have their head exploded. Apparently, this was going to become a minor plot point, with Talos worshippers trying to figure out how to safely depict his emblem. Though the effect didn't make it into the game, the cracked Red Dragon symbol is a nod to this, and Kirkbride confirmed that the effect might appear in future titles.

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** Michael Kirkbride said in a Reddit post that the banning of Talos would have a very devastating cosmic effect on Nirn. Namely, any attempt to depict the Red Diamond emblem in any form will have horrific consequences. A painter who paints it will have his painting turned into that of a 2D explosion. A blacksmith who forges it will have his work crumble after a while. A singer who describes the symbol in a song will cause anyone who listens to it to have their head exploded. Apparently, this was going to become a minor plot point, with Talos worshippers worshipers trying to figure out how to safely depict his emblem. Though the effect didn't make it into the game, the cracked Red Dragon symbol is a nod to this, and Kirkbride confirmed that the effect might appear in future titles.



** For whatever reason, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4adW20qUY most NPCs]] have the line "Oh, I don't believe those rumors my friend. Besides, who would ever want to harm such beauty?" - while most of these suggest that someone else was supposed to take Asta's place during the Eldergleam quest at one point, for whatever reason it also includes some unique [=NPCs=], such as Brynjolf, Cicero, and ''Malacath'', who shouldn't have any reason to comment on the tree.
** Although Nazeem and his wife Ahlam lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existant house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location[[note]]factions for housing are used so NPCs can report the player trespassing[[/note]]), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm. Strangely, Acolyte Jensen ''also'' carries a key to this non-existant manor (and he would've also been a member of the custom faction as well), and this, combined with Nazeem and his wife having a strained marriage, suggests that Jenssen and Ahlam would've been having an ''affair''.

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** For whatever reason, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4adW20qUY most NPCs]] have the line "Oh, I don't believe those rumors rumors, my friend. Besides, who would ever want to harm such beauty?" - while most of these suggest that someone else was supposed to take Asta's place during the Eldergleam quest at one point, for whatever reason it also includes some unique [=NPCs=], such as Brynjolf, Cicero, and ''Malacath'', who shouldn't have any reason to comment on the tree.
** Although Nazeem and his wife Ahlam lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existant non-existent house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location[[note]]factions for housing are used so NPCs can report the player trespassing[[/note]]), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm. Strangely, Acolyte Jensen ''also'' carries a key to this non-existant non-existent manor (and he would've also been a member of the custom faction as well), and this, combined with Nazeem and his wife having a strained marriage, suggests that Jenssen and Ahlam would've been having an ''affair''.



** Creator/GideonEmery is encountered twice in the Dark Brotherhood questline - he voices both Arcturus and Commander Maro's son Gaius. He also voices a few random Imperial archers who can be met on the road.
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** Creator/GideonEmery is encountered twice in the Dark Brotherhood questline - he voices both Arcturus and Commander Maro's son Gaius. He also voices a few random Imperial archers who can be met on the road.
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** Although Nazeem and his wife lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existant house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm.

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** Although Nazeem and his wife Ahlam lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existant house called Wintersand Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location), location[[note]]factions for housing are used so NPCs can report the player trespassing[[/note]]), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm.Farm. Strangely, Acolyte Jensen ''also'' carries a key to this non-existant manor (and he would've also been a member of the custom faction as well), and this, combined with Nazeem and his wife having a strained marriage, suggests that Jenssen and Ahlam would've been having an ''affair''.
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** Although Nazeem and his wife lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existant house called Wintersand Manor, suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live.

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** Although Nazeem and his wife lack a house in the final game, if one pickpockets them and opens up their inventory, both are carrying a key to a non-existant house called Wintersand Manor, Manor (and both belong to a faction associated with said location), suggesting that was the location both were originally going to live.live - while the mod Cutting Room Floor restores the mod, the location file suggests it was going to be inside Whiterun, whereas the [=CRF=] mod puts it next to Chillfurrow Farm.
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** For whatever reason, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4adW20qUY most NPCs]] have the line "Oh, I don't believe those rumors my friend. Besides, who would ever want to harm such beauty?" - while most of these suggest that someone else was supposed to take Asta's place during the Eldergleam quest at one point, for whatever reason it also includes some unique NPCs, such as Brynjolf, Cicero, and ''Malacath'', who shouldn't have any reason to comment on the tree.

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** For whatever reason, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4adW20qUY most NPCs]] have the line "Oh, I don't believe those rumors my friend. Besides, who would ever want to harm such beauty?" - while most of these suggest that someone else was supposed to take Asta's place during the Eldergleam quest at one point, for whatever reason it also includes some unique NPCs, [=NPCs=], such as Brynjolf, Cicero, and ''Malacath'', who shouldn't have any reason to comment on the tree.
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** For whatever reason, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4adW20qUY most NPCs]] have the line "Oh, I don't believe those rumors my friend. Besides, who would ever want to harm such beauty?" - while most of these suggest that someone else was supposed to take Asta's place during the Eldergleam quest at one point, for whatever reason it also includes some unique NPCs, such as Brynjolf, Cicero, and ''Malacath'', who shouldn't have any reason to comment on the tree.

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* FanNickname: "Odie" for Odahviing. Similarly, we have "Paarthy" (or just "Paarth") for Paarthurnax.

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"Odie" for Odahviing. Similarly, we have "Paarthy" (or just "Paarth") Odahviing.
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** On the console modding side, while the PS4 does allow mods...Sony only allows them if they don't use any new textures[[note]]The Xbox One allows them as long as they are under a certain file size; the Switch port, on the other hand, doesn't allow mods at all[[/note]], meaning that a large number of very popular mods can't be ported to the console. Strangely, this ban ''only'' applies from mods downloaded off of Bethesda.net, since content from Bethesda's Creation Club has no such problems.

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** On the console modding side, while the PS4 [=PS4=] does allow mods...Sony only allows them if they don't use any new textures[[note]]The Xbox One allows them as long as they are under a certain file size; the Switch port, on the other hand, doesn't allow mods at all[[/note]], meaning that a large number of very popular mods can't be ported to the console. Strangely, this ban ''only'' applies from mods downloaded off of Bethesda.net, since content from Bethesda's Creation Club has no such problems.
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** The Amulet of Articulation has 7 different versions, and the fact that the stats are different suggests it was originally going to be leveled, but for whatever reason, it's instead randomized.
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** On the console modding side, while the PS4 does allow mods...Sony only allows them if they don't use any new textures[[note]]The Xbox One allows them as long as they are under a certain file size; the Switch port, on the other hand, doesn't allow mods at all[[/note]], meaning that a large number of very popular mods can't be ported to the console. Strangely, this ban ''only'' applies from mods downloaded off of Bethesda.net, since content from Bethesda's Creation Club has no such problems.
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*** Additionally, Mercer and Enthir share a voice actor. It's jarring to say the least during Thieves' Guild questline, given that Mercer [[spoiler: servers as the main atagonist]], while Enthir plays a critical role in taking him down.

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*** Additionally, Mercer and Enthir share a voice actor. It's jarring to say the least during Thieves' Guild questline, given that Mercer [[spoiler: servers as the main atagonist]], antagonist]], while Enthir plays a critical role in taking him down.
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** The idea that the Champion of Cyrodiil is Sheogorath in Skyrim has been {{Jossed}} by Michael Kirkbride in a Reddit [[https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2ya7et/did_the_champion_of_cyrodiil_become_sheogorath/cp8c2ld/ post]]. However, Kirkbride said so based on the design documents of Oblivion and stopped working for Bethesda after said game, so he didn't know if it still held true by the time of Skyrim and encouraged players to make up their own conclusions.

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** The idea that the Champion of Cyrodiil is Sheogorath in Skyrim has been {{Jossed}} by Michael Kirkbride in a Reddit [[https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2ya7et/did_the_champion_of_cyrodiil_become_sheogorath/cp8c2ld/ post]]. However, Kirkbride said so based on the design documents of Oblivion and stopped working for Bethesda after said that game, so he didn't know if it still held true by the time of Skyrim and encouraged players to make up their own conclusions.

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* WordOfSaintPaul: The idea that the Thalmor want to end Talos worship as part of a plot to destroy the mortal world and AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence doesn't actually appear in-game (beyond some strong hints from Esbern), but comes from [[http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride forum posts by Michael Kirkbride]]. While responsible for a lot of Elder Scrolls lore (especially ''Morrowind'') and the creation of the Thalmor originally (they are referenced in the first ''Pocket Guide to the Empire'' that was packaged with ''Redguard''), he was not directly involved in writing the plot of ''Skyrim'' beyond the initial idea stages (that happened during ''Morrowind'' and early ''Oblivion'').

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The idea that the Thalmor want to end Talos worship as part of a plot to destroy the mortal world and AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence doesn't actually appear in-game (beyond some strong hints from Esbern), but comes from [[http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride forum posts by Michael Kirkbride]]. While responsible for a lot of Elder Scrolls lore (especially ''Morrowind'') and the creation of the Thalmor originally (they are referenced in the first ''Pocket Guide to the Empire'' that was packaged with ''Redguard''), he was not directly involved in writing the plot of ''Skyrim'' beyond the initial idea stages (that happened during ''Morrowind'' and early ''Oblivion'').''Oblivion'').
** The idea that the Champion of Cyrodiil is Sheogorath in Skyrim has been {{Jossed}} by Michael Kirkbride in a Reddit [[https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2ya7et/did_the_champion_of_cyrodiil_become_sheogorath/cp8c2ld/ post]]. However, Kirkbride said so based on the design documents of Oblivion and stopped working for Bethesda after said game, so he didn't know if it still held true by the time of Skyrim and encouraged players to make up their own conclusions.
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** Serana's voiceset includes a dying scream, despite Serana being forever flagged essential, even after full completion of the ''Dawnguard'' questline. It hints that, at some point in the game development, her death was possible.
** One loading screen mentions users of the Lady Stone "regenerate their health and stamina much faster ''for awhile''", implying the Lady Stone was initially planned to grant an active ability instead of a passive, permanent buff.
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*** Additionally, Mercer and Enthir share a voice actor. It's jarring to say the least during Thieves' Guild questline, given that Mercer [[spoiler: servers as the main atagonist]], while Enthir plays a critical role in taking him down.
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* ReferencedBy: The ForcedMeme that all the town Guardsmen are retired adventurers who got shot in the knee is referenced by the manga ''[[OverlyLongTitle The Strongest Wizard Becomes a Countryside Guardsman After Taking an Arrow to the Knee.]]'' (Phew, what a mouthful).
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** Michael Kirkbride said in a Reddit post that the banning of Talos would have a very devastating cosmic effect on Nirn. Namely, any attempt to depict the Red Diamond emblem in any form will have horrific consequences. A painter who paints it will have his painting turned into that of a 2D explosion. A blacksmith who forges it will have his work crumble after a while. A singer who describes the symbol in a song will cause anyone who listens to it to have their head exploded. Apparently, this was going to become a minor plot point, with Talos worshippers trying to figure out how to safely depict his emblem. Though the effect didn't make it into the game, the cracked Red Dragon symbol is a nod to this, and Kirkbride confirmed that the effect might appear in future titles.
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** Much of it is there for those instances when you can see beyond Skyrim from within the game's proper map. There are plenty of places inside Skyrim that do this, too. If you no clip through the walls of a city, you'll see a partially detailed map of the city again to provide the detail you'd see from certain vantage points even though the city interior is a different map. Likewise, when you're within a city, the exterior of Tamriel is all detailed this way, again to provide what you'd be able to see from within city walls. There's a mod called "Open Cities" that moves some of those cities into the Tamriel map. The ''Dragonborn'' DLC takes place in Solstheim, the island just north of Vvardenfell, where the events of [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]] took place.

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** *** Much of it is there for those instances when you can see beyond Skyrim from within the game's proper map. There are plenty of places inside Skyrim that do this, too. If you no clip through the walls of a city, you'll see a partially detailed map of the city again to provide the detail you'd see from certain vantage points even though the city interior is a different map. Likewise, when you're within a city, the exterior of Tamriel is all detailed this way, again to provide what you'd be able to see from within city walls. There's a mod called "Open Cities" that moves some of those cities into the Tamriel map. The ''Dragonborn'' DLC takes place in Solstheim, the island just north of Vvardenfell, where the events of [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]] took place.
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** For unknown reasons, if you [[http://web.archive.org/web/20131102004340/http://ppsh-41.com/post/13145143504/entire-tamriel-landmass-built-into-skyrim no-clip past the borders of Skyrim]], you'll find you can walk all the way to ''Morrowind and Cyrodiil''. They're not at all detailed, just height maps with generic textures and a few landmarks (like the White Gold Tower), but they're still there... even though you'll never be able to reach them without cheats or, theoretically, {{Game Mod}}s.
** Much of it is there for those instances when you can see beyond Skyrim from within the game's proper map. There are plenty of places inside Skyrim that do this, too. If you no clip through the walls of a city, you'll see a partially detailed map of the city again to provide the detail you'd see from certain vantage points even though the city interior is a different map. Likewise, when you're within a city, the exterior of Tamriel is all detailed this way, again to provide what you'd be able to see from within city walls. There's a mod called "Open Cities" that moves some of those cities into the Tamriel map. The ''Dragonborn'' DLC takes place in Solstheim, the island just north of Vvardenfell, where the events of [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]] took place.
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: A story was floating around social media for awhile that "taking an arrow to the knee" was an old Norse euphemism for getting married, meaning the guards were really just saying they'd settled down. This started life as a joke, but thanks to being widely shared it quickly got out of hand.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The original Skyrim, otherwise called "The Legendary Edition", is, as of 2017, delisted for Steam, and while it can still be bought for those who didn't own it, it isn't eligible for price cuts at all and must be bought with the [=DLCs=] separately.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:WhatCouldHaveBeen: It is quite evident that quite a lot of the content was planned for ''Skyrim'' didn't end up in the final version of the game, and some of it even made to a more or less finished state, but was ultimately DummiedOut, most likely due to the game being ChristmasRushed.
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** There is an absolute metric ton of lines and dialogue cut from the game, and it's not just a case they were taken out as they are all still there and easily modded back in. Instead of the standard "arrow in the knee" and WelcomeToCorneria comments followers and NPCs can have full on conversations with you, and each other.

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** There is an absolute metric ton of lines and dialogue cut from the game, and it's not just a case they were taken out as they are all still there and easily modded back in. Instead of the standard "arrow in the knee" and WelcomeToCorneria comments followers and NPCs [=NPCs=] can have full on conversations with you, and each other.

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