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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The original plan was to release ''Prince Caspian'' in December 2007 as a family film, like ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' had been two years earlier. However, Disney decided to delay its release to May 2008 and market it as a summer blockbuster. Its new release date landed directly between ''Film/IronMan1'' and ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'', both of which drew audiences away and left it grossing only about half of what ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' had done. (To be fair, May had supported three blockbuster movies before – such as 2003 and 2007 – and ''Film/IronMan1'' was hardly seen as a sure thing at the time.)

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The original plan was to release ''Prince Caspian'' in December 2007 as a family film, like ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' had been two years earlier. However, Disney decided to delay its release to May 2008 and market it as a summer blockbuster. Its new release date landed directly between ''Film/IronMan1'' and ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'', both of which drew audiences away and left it grossing only about half of what ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' had done. as much money as the first film. (To be fair, May had supported three blockbuster movies before – such as in 2003 and 2007 – and ''Film/IronMan1'' was hardly seen as a sure thing at the time.)
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney's marketing of the ''Film/PrinceCaspian''. Rather than release it in December as a family film (like ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' was), they decided to spend enormous amounts of money trying to sell it as a teen film and gave it a summer release, about a week apart from both ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'' and ''Film/IronMan1''. It should have been kept in December, because that's friendlier to this type of movie, but to be fair, May has shown it can expand just fine (see 2003 and 2007). And ''Film/IronMan1'' was hardly seen as a sure thing at the time. Basing the marketing around Ben Barnes may have been a dumb move, however.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney's marketing of the ''Film/PrinceCaspian''. Rather than The original plan was to release it ''Prince Caspian'' in December 2007 as a family film (like film, like ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' was), they had been two years earlier. However, Disney decided to spend enormous amounts of money trying delay its release to sell May 2008 and market it as a teen film and gave it a summer release, blockbuster. Its new release date landed directly between ''Film/IronMan1'' and ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'', both of which drew audiences away and left it grossing only about a week apart from both ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'' and ''Film/IronMan1''. It should have been kept in December, because that's friendlier to this type half of movie, but to what ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' had done. (To be fair, May has shown it can expand just fine (see had supported three blockbuster movies before – such as 2003 and 2007). And 2007 – and ''Film/IronMan1'' was hardly seen as a sure thing at the time. Basing the marketing around Ben Barnes may have been a dumb move, however.time.)
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** Glozelle was originally supposed to [[spoiler: die in the battle at the end along with Sopespian]]. His actor Pierfrancesco Favino suggested that [[spoiler: he survive and volunteer to go through the portal at the end]].

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** Glozelle was originally supposed to [[spoiler: die [[spoiler:die in the battle at the end along with Sopespian]]. His actor Pierfrancesco Favino suggested that [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he survive and volunteer to go through the portal at the end]].
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** Creator/PeterDinklage as Trumpkin; Dinklage is famous for turning down roles that often pigeon-hole actors with dwarfish such as fantasy dwarves; in contrast to Creator/WarwickDavis who's made his career by embracing it. So him playing Trumpkin was a bit of shock. He did however accept because he felt the character's cynicism made him a little different.

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** Creator/PeterDinklage as Trumpkin; Dinklage is famous for turning down roles that often pigeon-hole actors with dwarfish dwarfism such as fantasy dwarves; in contrast to Creator/WarwickDavis who's made his career by embracing it. So him playing Trumpkin was a bit of shock. He did however accept because he felt the character's cynicism made him a little different.
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* DawsonCasting: More so than the first film. Only one year has passed in the timeline but three years separated the releases of the films. William Moseley was twenty one playing a teenager and Anna Popplewell was twenty. Caspian's age isn't stated but he's implied to be a teenager and Ben Barnes was twenty six.

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* DawsonCasting: More so than the first film. Only one year has passed in the timeline but three years separated the releases of the films. William Moseley was twenty one playing a teenager and Anna Popplewell was twenty.were already in their twenties, still playing teenagers. Caspian's age isn't stated but he's implied to be a teenager and Ben Barnes was twenty six.



* YouLookFamiliar: Creator/WarwickDavis had portrayed Reepicheep in the BBC adaptation back in the 80s.

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** Tilda Swinton apparently cameos as a female centaur, as well as returning as Jadis for a scene.

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** Tilda Swinton Creator/TildaSwinton apparently cameos as a female centaur, as well as returning as Jadis for a scene.



** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep was different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Film/MadMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].
* AdvertisedExtra: Aslan of course. His role compared to the first film is notably smaller, but the marketing didn't exactly say that.

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** Eddie Izzard's Creator/EddieIzzard's interpretation of Reepicheep was different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Film/MadMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].
* AdvertisedExtra: Aslan of course. His role compared to the first film is notably smaller, but the marketing didn't exactly say that.
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* CreatorCameo: Douglas Gresham, co-producer, is the voice that proclaims the birth of Miraz's son at the beginning. The audio commentary and behind the scenes features reveals that numerous minor roles were filled by crew members.



** Creator/AndrewGarfield auditioned for Prince Caspian, but he was deemed "not handsome enough".



* YouLookFamiliar: Warwick Davis had portrayed Reepicheep in the BBC adaptation back in the 80s.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Warwick Davis Creator/WarwickDavis had portrayed Reepicheep in the BBC adaptation back in the 80s.
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* {{Jossed}}: It was unknown how long had passed in Narnia between the two books, only a reference to 'centuries' in the text. In the film, a line between Susan and Caspian specifies that it was 1300 years.
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** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Film/MadMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].

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** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep was different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Film/MadMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].
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** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Franchise/MadMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].

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** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Franchise/MadMax Film/MadMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].
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** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Franchise/MaxMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].

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** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Franchise/MaxMax Franchise/MadMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].
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** Creator/PeterDinklage as Trumpin; Dinklage is famous for turning down roles that often pigeon-hole actors with dwarfish such as fantasy dwarves; in contrast to Creator/WarwickDavis who's made his career by embracing it. So him playing Trumpkin was a bit of shock. He did however accept because he felt the character's cynicism made him a little different.

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** Creator/PeterDinklage as Trumpin; Trumpkin; Dinklage is famous for turning down roles that often pigeon-hole actors with dwarfish such as fantasy dwarves; in contrast to Creator/WarwickDavis who's made his career by embracing it. So him playing Trumpkin was a bit of shock. He did however accept because he felt the character's cynicism made him a little different.
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** A GettingCrapPastTheRadar moment during the castle raid. Peter and Susan find Miraz's baby.

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** A GettingCrapPastTheRadar moment during the castle raid. Peter **Peter and Susan find Miraz's baby.

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* ActingForTwo: Tilda Swinton apparently cameos as a female centaur, as well as returning as Jadis for a scene.

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Tilda Swinton apparently cameos as a female centaur, as well as returning as Jadis for a scene.



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** Glozelle was originally supposed to [[spoiler: die in the battle at the end along with Sopespian]]. His actor Pierfrancesco Favino suggested that [[spoiler: he survive and volunteer to go through the portal at the end]].
** Eddie Izzard's interpretation of Reepicheep different from Andrew Adamson's original idea - who thought of the mouse as similar to Puss In Boots from ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek 2}}''. Eddie Izzard however interpreted the mouse as a combination of Franchise/MaxMax and a [[Franchise/StarWars Stormtrooper]].



* CreatorCameo: Douglas Gresham, co-producer, is the voice that proclaims the birth of Miraz's son at the beginning. Likewise the film's composer Harry Gregson Williams provides the voice of Pattertwig the squirrel.
** The audio commentary and behind the scenes features reveals that numerous minor roles were filled by crew members.

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* CaliforniaDoubling: The scenes in London at the start and end were filmed in New Zealand.
* CreatorCameo: Douglas Gresham, co-producer, is the voice that proclaims the birth of Miraz's son at the beginning. Likewise the film's composer Harry Gregson Williams provides the voice of Pattertwig the squirrel.
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The audio commentary and behind the scenes features reveals that numerous minor roles were filled by crew members.



* DescendedCreator: The film's composer Harry Gregson-Williams voices Pattertwig the squirrel.
* DyeingForYourArt: Ben Barnes had to shave twice a day to look younger, as well as grow out his hair during filming (it was still short at the start, so he wore extensions until it grew out).
* FakeNationality: Ben Barnes puts on a Spanish accent, which he based off Inigo Montoya from ''Film/ThePrincessBride''. By the time of the next film, he's using his normal voice.



* PlayingAgainstType:
** Creator/PeterDinklage as Trumpin; Dinklage is famous for turning down roles that often pigeon-hole actors with dwarfish such as fantasy dwarves; in contrast to Creator/WarwickDavis who's made his career by embracing it. So him playing Trumpkin was a bit of shock. He did however accept because he felt the character's cynicism made him a little different.
** It's also mildly different for Warwick Davis to play such a devious and treacherous character. He did play the villain in ''{{Film/Leprechaun}}'' but that was more comedic.
** Sergio Castellitto had not played a villain before, and Miraz was very different for him.



* PlayingAgainstType: Creator/PeterDinklage as Trumpin; Dinklage is famous for turning down roles that often pigeon-hole actors with dwarfish such as fantasy dwarves; in contrast to Creator/WarwickDavis who's made his career by embracing it. So him playing Trumpkin was a bit of shock.


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** At one point early in production, they considered making the Telmarines a FantasyCounterpartCulture of the French - due to the history of English-French battles (England being represented by the Pevensies). They had intended to use Chateau de Perrefonds as Miraz's lair but, when they were unable to, went for a more Spanish feel for the Telmarines.


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* YouLookFamiliar: Warwick Davis had portrayed Reepicheep in the BBC adaptation back in the 80s.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney's marketing of the ''Film/PrinceCaspian''. Rather than release it in December as a family film (like ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' was), they decided to spend enormous amounts of money trying to sell it as a teen film and gave it a summer release, about a week apart from both ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'' and ''Film/IronMan''. It should have been kept in December, because that's friendlier to this type of movie, but to be fair, May has shown it can expand just fine (see 2003 and 2007). And ''IronMan'' was hardly seen as a sure thing at the time. Basing the marketing around Ben Barnes may have been a dumb move, however.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney's marketing of the ''Film/PrinceCaspian''. Rather than release it in December as a family film (like ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' was), they decided to spend enormous amounts of money trying to sell it as a teen film and gave it a summer release, about a week apart from both ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'' and ''Film/IronMan''.''Film/IronMan1''. It should have been kept in December, because that's friendlier to this type of movie, but to be fair, May has shown it can expand just fine (see 2003 and 2007). And ''IronMan'' ''Film/IronMan1'' was hardly seen as a sure thing at the time. Basing the marketing around Ben Barnes may have been a dumb move, however.
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* {{Jossed}}: It was unknown how long had passed in Narnia between the two books, only a reference to 'centuries' in the text. This film confirms it is 1300 years, from a line between Susan and Caspian.

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* {{Jossed}}: It was unknown how long had passed in Narnia between the two books, only a reference to 'centuries' in the text. This film confirms it is 1300 years, from In the film, a line between Susan and Caspian.Caspian specifies that it was 1300 years.
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* FranchiseKiller: A rather convoluted case. While it wasn't a complete BoxOfficeBomb, the movie's below-target performance was seen as a disappointment by Disney and caused them to cancel the series. 20th Century Fox would later take over adapting the remaining books, but then in 2019 they were bought out by Disney, meaning that Disney once again owns the rights to all three Narnia films.
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* PlayingAgainstType: Creator/PeterDinklage as Trumpin; Dinklage is famous for turning down roles that often pigeon-hole actors with dwarfish such as fantasy dwarves; in contrast to Creator/WarwickDavis who's made his career by embracing it. So him playing Trumpkin was a bit of shock.
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** An odd example with Shane Rangi, a professional suit actor who provided the suit acting and motion capture for at least six different non-human characters throughout the film (he's only officially credited for two).

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** An odd unusual example with Shane Rangi, a professional suit actor who provided the suit acting and motion capture for at least six different non-human characters throughout the film (he's only officially credited for two).



** Watching the audio commentary and the behind the scenes features reveals that numerous minor roles were filled by crew members.

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** Watching the The audio commentary and the behind the scenes features reveals that numerous minor roles were filled by crew members.
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** An odd example with Shane Rangi, a professional suit actor who provided the suit acting and motion capture for at least six different non-human characters throughout the film (he's only officially credited for two).


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** Watching the audio commentary and the behind the scenes features reveals that numerous minor roles were filled by crew members.
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* HeyItsThatGuy:
** Trumpkin the dwarf looks an awful lot like [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]].
** Nikabrik looks a lot like Willow. Reepicheep from the BBC version sounds like him, too.

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* ActingForTwo: Tilda Swinton apparently cameos as a female centaur, as well as returning as Jadis for a scene.
* AdvertisedExtra: Aslan of course. His role compared to the first film is notably smaller, but the marketing didn't exactly say that.
* CreatorCameo: Douglas Gresham, co-producer, is the voice that proclaims the birth of Miraz's son at the beginning. Likewise the film's composer Harry Gregson Williams provides the voice of Pattertwig the squirrel.



* HeyItsThatGuy: Trumpkin the dwarf looks an awful lot like [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]].

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** After the Pevensies first arrive, Peter gives Lucy an apple from the orchard and the rest of them say they forgot to bring their lunches.
** Early on in the film, the Pevensies would witness a dryad dying painfully as her tree was cut down, similar to something that Tirian and Jewel see in ''Literature/TheLastBattle''.
** A scene humanising Miraz somewhat, where Prunaprismia is tending to the baby and wonders where Caspian could be (as she does not know he has run away).
** A few extra seconds introducing Aslan's How.
** A moment before the raid on Miraz's castle, where a centaur would be seen saying goodbye to his wife (the same one who bursts into tears after they return). Lucy glares at Peter before walking off, showing she still doesn't approve of the plan.
** A GettingCrapPastTheRadar moment during the castle raid. Peter and Susan find Miraz's baby.
--> '''Peter:''' Where did that come from?
--> '''Susan:''' Mum never had [[TheTalk that talk]] with you?
** Susan would be practising with her bow, Caspian would flirt with her and the two would spot a sentry. This is replaced with a faun seeing the sentry in the final cut.
** A scene before the duel, where Reepicheep and Bulgy Bear would argue over who gets to be Peter's second.
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Trumpkin the dwarf looks an awful lot like [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]].


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* {{Jossed}}: It was unknown how long had passed in Narnia between the two books, only a reference to 'centuries' in the text. This film confirms it is 1300 years, from a line between Susan and Caspian.


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* WagTheDirector: Anna Popplewell was disappointed that she didn't get to use her bow too much in the previous film. So she asked the director to change that; the script was changed to have more instances of Susan using her bow.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Producers had much more trouble adapting this book than the previous one. The book has the Pevensies arriving in Narnia and Trumpkin telling them everything that happened in the story up until Miraz's forces advanced on Beruna. As such they considered simply skipping it and adapting ''Literature/TheVoyageOfTheDawnTreader'' instead. Likewise they also considered - as the BBC adaptations had - combining two books into one.
** The romance between Susan and Caspian was much more detailed in the original script. It was cut down to a more chaste crush and flirting, to avoid a RomanticPlotTumor.
* WordOfGod: Anyone inside the circle drawn to resurrect Jadis is seduced by her powers. This is only hinted at by the fact that fumes come out of Caspian and Peter's mouths. It explains why the two of them come close to freeing her.
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* DawsonCasting: More so than the first film. Only one year has passed in the timeline but three years separated the releases of the films. William Moseley was twenty one playing a teenager and Anna Popplewell was twenty. Caspian's age isn't stated but he's implied to be a teenager and Ben Barnes was twenty six.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney's marketing of the ''Film/PrinceCaspian''. Rather than release it in December as a family film (like ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' was), they decided to spend enormous amounts of money trying to sell it as a teen film and gave it a summer release, about a week apart from both ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'' and ''Film/IronMan''. It should have been kept in December, because that's friendlier to this type of movie, but to be fair, May has shown it can expand just fine (see 2003 and 2007). And ''IronMan'' was hardly seen as a sure thing at the time. Basing the marketing around Ben Barnes may have been a dumb move, however.
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** Nikabrik looks a lot like Willow. Reepacheep from the BBC version sounds like him, too.

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** Nikabrik looks a lot like Willow. Reepacheep Reepicheep from the BBC version sounds like him, too.
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** Nikabrik looks a lot like Willow. Reepacheep from the BBC version sounds like him, too.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Trumpkin the dwarf looks an awful lot like [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]].

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Trumpkin the dwarf looks an awful lot like [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]].Lannister]].

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Trumpkin the dwarf looks an awful lot like [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]].

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