History Trivia / HulkHogan

5th Nov '16 12:00:34 PM Morgenthaler
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** It backfired on him at 2000's ''Bash at the Beach'': when Hogan came out to the ring, JeffJarrett laid down on the mat, giving him the win by pinfall (because that never gets old). Wrestling/VinceRusso came out and swerved the audience by acknowledging the Creative Clause, the Fingerpoke of Doom, and Hogan's bad behavior (see [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-greatest-unscripted-disasters-in-pro-wrestling_p2/ this]] retrospective by ''Website/{{Cracked}}''). [[http://youtu.be/aixym1-uoh4 This is his version of events]].

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** It backfired on him at 2000's ''Bash at the Beach'': when Hogan came out to the ring, JeffJarrett Wrestling/JeffJarrett laid down on the mat, giving him the win by pinfall (because that never gets old). Wrestling/VinceRusso came out and swerved the audience by acknowledging the Creative Clause, the Fingerpoke of Doom, and Hogan's bad behavior (see [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-greatest-unscripted-disasters-in-pro-wrestling_p2/ this]] retrospective by ''Website/{{Cracked}}''). [[http://youtu.be/aixym1-uoh4 This is his version of events]].
4th Sep '16 12:45:11 AM KingClark
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* '''''[[FountainOfExpies Iconic Wrestler]]''''': Perhaps the most iconic of all time.
21st Aug '16 9:27:39 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** One of his stated claims to fame was discovering Wrestling/TheUndertaker while filming ''Film/SuburbanCommando.'' Actually, when the film was being shot, Mark Callaway was already under contract to the WWF, but hadn't been given a gimmick yet. Then, Pat Patterson dreamed up the Deadman character, and he debuted in late 1990, before the film was released.

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** One of his stated claims to fame was discovering Wrestling/TheUndertaker while filming ''Film/SuburbanCommando.'' Actually, when the film was being shot, Mark Callaway was already under contract to the WWF, but hadn't been given a gimmick yet. Then, Pat Patterson Wrestling/PatPatterson dreamed up up(took from AWA) the Deadman character, and he debuted in late 1990, before the film was released.
15th Jun '16 4:24:36 AM Briguy52748
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** During his first run in WWF, Vince [=McMahon=], Sr. wanted Hogan to dye his hair red (since Hogan is an Irish surname). He refused because he was already balding at the time.

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** During his first run in the WWF, Vince [=McMahon=], Sr. wanted Hogan to dye his hair red (since Hogan is an Irish surname). He refused because he was already balding at the time.time.
** Also during his first run in the WWF, there supposedly was a series of matches signed for Hogan to face Wrestling/BrunoSammartino, who in early 1980 was still one of the sport's top draws, if not the top draw. Sammartino, in an online interview, noted that these matches never took place because Hogan knew he would be beaten swiftly and surely in the ring. Which -- at this stage in the game in Hogan's career -- is likely true; indeed, Hogan no-showed for these events. What is unclear is who arranged for the no-shows, and one possible explanation is that it was Vince [=McMahon=] Sr. (still in charge in 1980), who knew that Sammartino was far-better conditioned and ring savvy than the (then) still relatively inexperienced Hogan, and that the elder Vince knew that Hogan's credibility as a serious if not dire threat to both Wrestling/BobBacklund, Wrestling/AndreTheGiant and future opponents -- and his overall credibility as a wrestler -- would be all but destroyed if a Sammartino-Hogan match were to have taken place. Keep in mind this was 1980, two years before Vince Jr. took over and also two years before the seeds of Hogan's rise to superstardom began (albeit in the rival [=AWA=].
26th Mar '16 7:24:57 AM SuperLurkerGuy
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** He was so fed up with wrestling in 1986 that he auditioned for the role of {{Music/Metallica}} bassist after Cliff Burton's death. (Although this may be a misquote - he claimed to have hung around with James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich and talked about playing bass in a band with them in the late 70s or early 80s. Given that he was a bass player who lived in the Bay Area, this is actually somewhat believable. Though Lars says he doesn't remember, he was trying to recall if he knew a Hogan, not a Terry Bollea).

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** He was so fed up with wrestling in 1986 that he auditioned for the role of {{Music/Metallica}} bassist after Cliff Burton's death. (Although this may be a misquote - he claimed to have hung around with James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich and talked about playing bass in a band with them in the late 70s or early 80s. Given that he was a bass player who lived in on the Bay Area, opposite side of the country during this time period (Tampa and Downey, CA are very, very far from each other), this is actually somewhat believable. Though something of a stretch. Lars says has said he doesn't remember, he was trying to recall if he knew a Hogan, not a Terry Bollea). remember one way or another; apparently none of the members of Metallica were big wrestling fans.
20th Feb '16 5:23:20 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* OldShame: Hulk Hogan blames himself for the disastrous match he and Ultimate Warrior had at the 1998 ''Halloween Havoc'' and if one had seen it, they probably know why. The part that isn't Hogan's fault is that the next match, Diamond Dallas Paige vs Goldberg, called by some critics as the best match in the event's then eleven year history, was cut due to pay per view issues, meaning what was easily the worst match on the card was also the functional main event, making it that much more memorable.
9th Dec '15 4:05:40 AM bonesawisready
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--->'''[[http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/118-daily-updates/29402-missy-hyatt-talks-steroids-weight-cutting-in-pro-wrestling-and-mma Missy Hyatt]]''': I'm sure Hulk Hogan in his head thought if he denied extensive steroid usage in 1991, the media would move on. Who would have ever thought his denial would cause a steroid media buzz which attacked wrestling so fierce with major ramifications.

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--->'''[[http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/118-daily-updates/29402-missy-hyatt-talks-steroids-weight-cutting-in-pro-wrestling-and-mma Missy Hyatt]]''': I'm sure --->'''''[[http://bleacherreport.com/articles/536691-bret-hart-is-right-hogans-a-bum Bleacher Report]]''''': Okay, so he could work a crowd. He has never seemed to realize that it takes two to tango. There is no Hulk Hogan in his head thought if he denied extensive steroid usage in 1991, the media would move on. Who would have ever thought his denial would cause a steroid media buzz which attacked without Vince [=McMahon=]. Those two, yes both of them, put pro wrestling so fierce with major ramifications.on the mainstream map in the 80ís and early 90ís. But when Hoganís big run was over, he vanished. He wasnít the movie star he thought he would become. The WWE survived without him, probably [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun much to his dismay]].
9th Dec '15 3:57:01 AM bonesawisready
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** In 1988, there was a tournament to crown a new WWF Champion. Hogan was in it, but he and Andre the Giant got each other disqualified and eliminated in their quarter-final match. The two men who made it to the finals were Randy Savage (w/ Wrestling/MissElizabeth) and Wrestling/TedDiBiase (w/ Andre); Savage's valet Elizabeth decided that he needed help, so she ran to the back and came back with none other than Hulk Hogan, who whacked DiBiase with a chair while the ref's back was turned (as opposed to, say, brawling with Andre). This set [=DiBiase=] up to be hit with the Macho Man's FinishingMove, and Savage was the new champ. It was Savage's first ever world title in the WWF, which was undoubtedly a great night for him. But the way the finish was booked, it looked like he hadn't been able to do it without Hogan's assistance.\\\

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** In 1988, there was a tournament to crown a new WWF Champion. Hogan was in it, but he and Andre the Giant got each other disqualified and eliminated in their quarter-final match. The two men who made it to the finals were Randy Savage (w/ Wrestling/MissElizabeth) and Wrestling/TedDiBiase (w/ Andre); Savage's valet Elizabeth decided that he needed help, so she ran to the back and came back with none other than Hulk Hogan, who whacked DiBiase [=DiBiase=] with a chair while the ref's back was turned (as opposed to, say, brawling with Andre). This set [=DiBiase=] up to be hit with the Macho Man's FinishingMove, and Savage was the new champ. It was Savage's first ever world title in the WWF, which was undoubtedly a great night for him. But the way the finish was booked, it looked like he hadn't been able to do it without Hogan's assistance.\\\



** In 2010, Hogan interrupted a heartfelt speech from Jeff Jarrett, accusing him of being a glory hog who kept younger talent down in order to keep the spotlight on himself. This would be an accurate and legitimate criticism of Jarrett's career...if it hadn't come from ''Hogan'', the '''biggest''' primma donna in the history of professional wrestling. The audience of the Impact Zone was perfectly aware of this and didn't hesitate to boo Hogan out of the building.
9th Dec '15 3:56:04 AM bonesawisready
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** The general consensus amongst modern wrestling fans is that yes, Hogan today is very much an attention whore, both onscreen and in RealLife. Back in WCW, Hogan used to schedule his vacations during football season so the dip in the ratings could be blamed on him not being there, justifying his claim that new guys couldn't draw so that way he could keep the spotlight on himself.
--->''"Who sold out Shea Stadium? Who put 94,000 people in the Pontiac Silverdome? Who slammed [[Wrestling/AndreTheGiant a 700-pound giant?]]"''.
** But his leverage with Vince only goes so far; the breaking point being when a) Hogan vetoed a tag team run with Beefcake, saying it was beneath him, then b) decided at the 11th hour not to elevate Bret, claiming Bret wasn't in his league.

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** The general consensus amongst among modern wrestling fans is that yes, Hogan today is very much an attention whore, a prima donna, both onscreen and in RealLife. Back in WCW, Hogan used to schedule Many of his vacations BigDamnHeroes moments during football season so his 1980s prime would result in having his music, rather than that of the dip in the ratings could be blamed on him not wrestler(s) he had saved, being there, justifying his claim that new guys couldn't draw so that way he could keep the spotlight on himself.
--->''"Who sold out Shea Stadium? Who put 94,000 people in the Pontiac Silverdome? Who slammed [[Wrestling/AndreTheGiant a 700-pound giant?]]"''.
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played. This often happened with Randy Savage. But his leverage with Vince only goes so far; the breaking point being when a) Hogan vetoed a tag team run with Beefcake, saying it was beneath him, then b) decided at the 11th hour not to elevate Bret, claiming Bret wasn't in his league.league.
--->''"Who sold out Shea Stadium? Who put 94,000 people in the Pontiac Silverdome? Who slammed [[Wrestling/AndreTheGiant a 700-pound giant?]]"''.
** In 1988, there was a tournament to crown a new WWF Champion. Hogan was in it, but he and Andre the Giant got each other disqualified and eliminated in their quarter-final match. The two men who made it to the finals were Randy Savage (w/ Wrestling/MissElizabeth) and Wrestling/TedDiBiase (w/ Andre); Savage's valet Elizabeth decided that he needed help, so she ran to the back and came back with none other than Hulk Hogan, who whacked DiBiase with a chair while the ref's back was turned (as opposed to, say, brawling with Andre). This set [=DiBiase=] up to be hit with the Macho Man's FinishingMove, and Savage was the new champ. It was Savage's first ever world title in the WWF, which was undoubtedly a great night for him. But the way the finish was booked, it looked like he hadn't been able to do it without Hogan's assistance.\\\
Savage also had to share the spotlight with Hogan in his post-match victory celebration, as Hogan would stay in the ring with Macho until the show ended. It's one thing to, say, raise the new champion's hand and briefly congratulate him before getting out of the ring and letting him have his moment. It's another to spend like five minutes congratulating him, working the crowd, and not leaving the ring, thus drawing the crowd's attention away from the new champion and onto yourself!
** Similarly, when Hogan passed the torch a couple of years later to the Ultimate Warrior, he got at least as much time on camera as Warrior after the match, much of which showed him looking absolutely heartbroken over his loss. To put this in perspective, imagine if years later when Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin won the WWF Championship from Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, most of the attention after the match was on HBK and how upset he was over losing his title rather than on Austin. Then, once he composed himself, he got into the ring with Warrior and proceeded to congratulate him and work the crowd until the end of the show, just as he did with Macho. Once again, he arguably should have stepped aside and allowed the new champion to have his moment and, once again, he didn't.\\\
Hellwig would eventually migrate to WCW in 1998, where heel Hogan squashed him in what even Bischoff considers one of the worst PPV main events ever. [[TimeDelayedDeath The one WWF champ to never job to Hogan.]]
--->'''[[http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/1998083m.htm DDT]]''': Hogan says he's going to be the man who takes wrestling into the new millennium. The really scary thing is [[KarmaHoudini that he probably will.]] Bah.
** ''[=WrestleMania IX=]''. In kayfabe, Bret had a title shot against Yokozuna. Hogan had already competed earlier in the card, defeating Money Inc. Anyway, shenanigans occur. Yoko throws salt in Bret's eyes, blinding him. Hulk Hogan comes out and is all ''"Bret the Bret-man Hart that isn't the right dude, somebody needs to step up for the USA".'' Bret [[OnlyICanKillHim points weakly]] toward the ring, Hulk runs out and pins Yokozuna in a matter of seconds, making both Yoko and Bret look like complete pushovers. Everybody sells it like it's wonderful and he celebrates in the ring for what feels like an hour and nobody mentions Bret Hart at all. This match was ''supposed'' to set up Hogan vs. Hart as a torch-passing thing, but then Hogan went all Hogan; this was followed by him leaving the company, fleeing to Japan, and blowing the lid on WWF's steroid abuse, so we can assume the backstage fallout from [=W9=] was bad.



** In 1988, there was a tournament to crown a new WWF Champion. Hogan was in it, but he and Andre the Giant got each other disqualified and eliminated in their quarter-final match. The two men who made it to the finals were Randy Savage and Wrestling/TedDiBiase. The Million Dollar Man was accompanied to the ring by Andre, who interfered a bit on his behalf. Savage's valet Wrestling/MissElizabeth decided that Savage needed help, so she ran to the back and came back with none other than Hulk Hogan, who [[MoralDissonance whacked DiBiase with a chair while the ref's back was turned]] (as opposed to, say, brawling with Andre in order to stop him from helping [=DiBiase=] any more). This set [=DiBiase=] up to be hit with the Macho Man's FinishingMove, and Savage was the new champ. It was Savage's first ever world title in the WWF, which was undoubtedly a great night for him. But the way the finish was booked, it looked like he hadn't been able to do it without Hogan's assistance. Savage also had to share the spotlight with Hogan in his post-match victory celebration, as Hogan would stay in the ring with Macho until the show ended. It's one thing to, say, raise the new champion's hand and briefly congratulate him before getting out of the ring and letting him have his moment. It's another to spend like five minutes congratulating him, working the crowd, and not leaving the ring, thus drawing the crowd's attention away from the new champion and onto yourself.
** Similarly, when Hogan passed the torch a couple of years later to the Ultimate Warrior, he got at least as much time on camera as Warrior after the match, much of which showed him looking absolutely heartbroken over his loss. To put this in perspective, imagine if years later when Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin won the WWF Championship from Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, most of the attention after the match was on HBK and how upset he was over losing his title rather than on Austin. Then, once he composed himself, he got into the ring with Warrior and proceeded to congratulate him and work the crowd until the end of the show, just as he did with Macho. Once again, he arguably should have stepped aside and allowed the new champion to have his moment and, once again, he didn't. Hellwig would eventually migrate to WCW in 1998, where heel Hogan squashed him in what even Bischoff considers one of the worst PPV main events ever. [[TimeDelayedDeath The one WWF champ to never job to Hogan.]]
--->'''[[http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/1998083m.htm DDT]]''': Hogan says he's going to be the man who takes wrestling into the new millenium. The really scary thing is [[KarmaHoudini that he probably will.]] Bah.
** Wrestlemania IX. In kayfabe, Bret had a title shot against Yokozuna. Hogan had already competed earlier in the card, defeating Money Inc. Anyway, shenanigans occur. Yoko throws salt in Bret's eyes, blinding him. Hulk Hogan comes out and is all ''"Bret the Bret-man Hart that isn't the right dude, somebody needs to step up for the USA".'' Bret [[OnlyICanKillHim points weakly]] toward the ring, Hulk runs out and pins Yokozuna in a matter of seconds, making both Yoko and Bret look like complete pushovers. Everybody sells it like it's wonderful and he celebrates in the ring for what feels like an hour and nobody mentions Bret Hart at all.
*** It was supposed to set up Hogan vs. Hart as a torch-passing thing, but then Hogan went all Hogan. This was followed by him leaving the company, fleeing to Japan, and blowing the lid on WWF's steroid abuse, so we can assume the backstage fallout from [=W9=] was bad.



** Many of his BigDamnHeroes moments during his 1980s prime would result in having his music, rather than that of the wrestler(s) he had saved, being played. This often happened with Randy Savage.



--->"Iíd go with Wrestling/JamesStorm all day long. '''Mainstream''', brother! Cowboy hat, beer drinking, middle America, Nascar, Walmart, Country Western. I mean all day long, itís a no brainer. Thatís me. Thatís my opinion. So, I mean, Bobby Roodeís a tremendous athlete--[[BaitAndSwitchComment I would change.]] Iíd bill him from Venice Beach, California or Omaha, Nebraska instead of, I dunno, '[[CanadaEh Canada, eh!]]'"
*** After he'd finished with his head-chopping mission (half of TNA's midcarders were shown the door) and bled the company dry with his huge salary, Hogan chose not to re-sign with them. This rarely happens once. [[{{Wrestling/WCW}} To happen twice...]]

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--->"Iíd go with Wrestling/JamesStorm all day long. '''Mainstream''', brother! Cowboy hat, beer drinking, middle America, Nascar, Walmart, Country Western. I mean all day long, itís a no brainer. Thatís me. Thatís my opinion. So, I mean, Bobby Roodeís a tremendous athlete--[[BaitAndSwitchComment athlete--[[BaitTheDog I would change.]] Iíd bill him from Venice Beach, California or Omaha, Nebraska instead of, I dunno, '[[CanadaEh Canada, eh!]]'"
*** After he'd finished with his head-chopping mission (half of TNA's midcarders were shown the door) and bled the company dry with his huge salary, Hogan chose not to re-sign with them. This rarely happens once. [[{{Wrestling/WCW}} To happen twice...]]
eh!]]'"



*** Unless that was Hulk Hogan's final match of all time (which it wasn't), then it can only be interpreted as Main-Eventer Disease. At most, this would have caused the rematch to be postponed, not canceled entirely. In addition, it would not have prevented him from losing the match he did have with HBK and giving up his own victory match.

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*** Unless that was Hulk Hogan's final match of all time (which it wasn't), then it can only be interpreted as [[IHaveToIronMyDog Main-Eventer Disease.Disease]]. At most, this would have caused the rematch to be postponed, not canceled entirely. In addition, it would not have prevented him from losing the match he did have with HBK and giving up his own victory match.



** It really says something when the politicking of Wrestling/TripleH, the man who married the boss's daughter and was the mastermind behind the infamous "Reign of Terror" in '03-'05, is considered small potatoes to what the Hulkster has done over the years. While Hunter does have a lot of leeway over storylines, everything is ultimately up to Vince and try as he might, he'll never question his father-in-law (except for the Katie Vick thing, but that's understable), and is utterly devoted to the business. Hulk Hogan didn't just demand that he feud with guys his own age -- he used it as an excuse to claim that he was the only one that could draw. Back in WCW, his vacations would coincide with Monday Night Football, so that way he could claim that ratings dropped because he wasn't there and that new guys couldn't draw. Wrestling/EricBischoff, being a complete Hogan mark, all but revered his word as gospel; Vince, who has been in wrestling longer than Bischoff and nowhere near as dumb as him, wouldn't stand for it.

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** It really says something when the politicking of Wrestling/TripleH, the man who married the boss's daughter and was the mastermind behind the infamous "Reign of Terror" in '03-'05, is considered small potatoes to what the Hulkster has done over the years. While Hunter does have a lot of leeway over storylines, everything is ultimately up to Vince and try as he might, he'll never question his father-in-law (except for the Katie Vick thing, but that's understable), and is utterly devoted to the business. Hulk Hogan didn't just demand that he feud with guys his own age -- he used it as an excuse to claim that he was the only one that could draw. Back in WCW, his vacations would coincide with Monday Night Football, so that way he could claim that ratings dropped because he wasn't there and that new guys couldn't draw. Wrestling/EricBischoff, being a complete Hogan mark, all but revered his word as gospel; Vince, who has been in wrestling longer than Bischoff and nowhere near as dumb as him, wouldn't stand for it. (Then Hogan/Bischoff went and pulled the exact same shit in TNA.)
4th Nov '15 12:27:52 PM JamesAustin
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*** After he'd finished with his head-chopping mission (half of TNA's midcarders were shown the door) and bled the company dry with his huge salary, Hogan chose not to re-sign with them. This rarely happens once. [[{{Wrestling/WCW}} To happen twice...].

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*** After he'd finished with his head-chopping mission (half of TNA's midcarders were shown the door) and bled the company dry with his huge salary, Hogan chose not to re-sign with them. This rarely happens once. [[{{Wrestling/WCW}} To happen twice...].]]



** It backfired on him at 2000's "Bash at the Beach": when Hogan came out to the ring, JeffJarrett laid down on the mat, giving him the win by pinfall (because that never gets old). Wrestling/VinceRusso came out and swerved the audience by acknowledging the Creative Clause, the Fingerpoke of Doom, and Hogan's bad behavior (see [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-greatest-unscripted-disasters-in-pro-wrestling_p2/ this]] retrospective by ''Website/{{Cracked}}''). [[http://youtu.be/aixym1-uoh4 This is his version of events]].
** It blew up in his face a ''second'' time during the infamous ''Summerslam'' match with Wrestling/ShawnMichaels. While it was initially agreed upon that the two would trade victories in two matches, Hogan managed to use his bad knee as reason to nix HBK's victory match altogether. As a result, HBK [[DeathThrows hilariously oversold everything]](!!), making Hogan's offense look like a joke.
*** It also made Shawn look like a completely unprofessional ass, as it cannot be disproved that Hogan really ''wasn't'' having troubles with the knee since his bones have collectively turned to glass powder.

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** It backfired on him at 2000's "Bash ''Bash at the Beach": Beach'': when Hogan came out to the ring, JeffJarrett laid down on the mat, giving him the win by pinfall (because that never gets old). Wrestling/VinceRusso came out and swerved the audience by acknowledging the Creative Clause, the Fingerpoke of Doom, and Hogan's bad behavior (see [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-greatest-unscripted-disasters-in-pro-wrestling_p2/ this]] retrospective by ''Website/{{Cracked}}''). [[http://youtu.be/aixym1-uoh4 This is his version of events]].
** It blew up in his face a ''second'' time during the infamous ''Summerslam'' match with Wrestling/ShawnMichaels. While it was initially agreed upon that the two would trade victories in two matches, Hogan managed to use his bad knee as reason to nix HBK's victory match altogether. As a result, HBK [[DeathThrows hilariously oversold everything]](!!), making Hogan's offense look like a joke.
*** It also made Shawn look like a completely unprofessional ass, as
altogether (granted, it cannot be disproved that Hogan really ''wasn't'' having troubles with the knee since his bones have collectively turned to glass powder.powder). As a result, HBK [[DeathThrows hilariously oversold everything]](!!), making Hogan's offense look like a joke.



** In 2010, Hogan interrupted a heartfelt speech from Jeff Jarrett, accusing him of being a glory hog who kept younger talent down in order to keep the spotlight on himself. This would be an accurate and legitimate criticism of Jarrett's career...if it hadn't come from ''Hogan'', the '''biggest''' primma donna n the history of professional wrestling. The audience of the Impact Zone was perfectly aware of this and didn't hesitate to boo Hogan out of the building.

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** In 2010, Hogan interrupted a heartfelt speech from Jeff Jarrett, accusing him of being a glory hog who kept younger talent down in order to keep the spotlight on himself. This would be an accurate and legitimate criticism of Jarrett's career...if it hadn't come from ''Hogan'', the '''biggest''' primma donna n in the history of professional wrestling. The audience of the Impact Zone was perfectly aware of this and didn't hesitate to boo Hogan out of the building.
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