History Trivia / DinoAttackRPG

23rd Jul '17 6:23:53 PM nombretomado
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** Most people refer to the Toys/{{BIONICLE}}[=/=][[Toys/LEGOExoForce Exo-Force]] crossover as the ''[[XMeetsY BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG]]'', as a reference to the fact that it had very little to do with the rest of ''Dino Attack RPG''.[[note]][[DontExplainTheJoke Note that "Dino Attack" is mentioned nowhere in "BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG".]][[/note]]

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** Most people refer to the Toys/{{BIONICLE}}[=/=][[Toys/LEGOExoForce Exo-Force]] crossover as the ''[[XMeetsY ''[[JustForFun/XMeetsY BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG]]'', as a reference to the fact that it had very little to do with the rest of ''Dino Attack RPG''.[[note]][[DontExplainTheJoke Note that "Dino Attack" is mentioned nowhere in "BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG".]][[/note]]
1st Jul '17 9:10:24 AM PeabodySam
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** And now that the Website/{{BZPower}} Forum Archive has been taken down following a hacking incident in February 2013, the entire original ''Dino Attack RPG'' has become an extreme case of this trope.[[note]]That's 224 pages, 8924 posts, and about five and a half years of MissingEpisode.[[/note]] Fortunately, over a third of the RPG was able to be recovered by players and compiled into [[http://www.mediafire.com/download/uu62g8o5utzamrw/Dino+Attack+RPG+Archive+v1.3.zip a downloadable archive]], but that leaves about two thirds of the RPG lost.

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** And now that the Website/{{BZPower}} Forum Archive has been taken down following a hacking incident in February 2013, the entire original ''Dino Attack RPG'' has become an extreme case of this trope.[[note]]That's 224 pages, 8924 posts, and about five and a half years of MissingEpisode.[[/note]] Fortunately, over a third of the RPG was able to be recovered by players and compiled into [[http://www.mediafire.com/download/uu62g8o5utzamrw/Dino+Attack+RPG+Archive+v1.3.com/file/b5dbl3k79z85czt/Dino_Attack_RPG_Archive_v2.0.zip a downloadable archive]], but that leaves about two thirds of the RPG lost.
10th Apr '17 9:12:51 AM PeabodySam
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* FollowTheLeader: ''Dino Attack RPG'' itself is an example, following the footsteps of ''Roleplay/AlphaTeamMissionDeepFreezeRPG''. Rather interestingly, most later LEGO [=RPGs=] ended up following ''Dino Attack RPG'''s example. This makes ''Dino Attack RPG'' a follower that eventually became a leader.
25th Dec '16 9:45:58 AM ADrago
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** And now that the Website/{{BZPower}} Forum Archive has been taken down following a hacking incident in February 2013, the entire original ''Dino Attack RPG'' has become an extreme case of this trope.[[note]]That's 224 pages, 8924 posts, and about five and a half years of MissingEpisode.[[/note]] Fortunately, over a third of the RPG was able to be recovered by players and compiled into [[http://www.mediafire.com/download/uu62g8o5utzamrw/Dino+Attack+RPG+Archive+v1.3.zip a downloadable archive]], but that leaves about two thirds of the RPG LostForever.

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** And now that the Website/{{BZPower}} Forum Archive has been taken down following a hacking incident in February 2013, the entire original ''Dino Attack RPG'' has become an extreme case of this trope.[[note]]That's 224 pages, 8924 posts, and about five and a half years of MissingEpisode.[[/note]] Fortunately, over a third of the RPG was able to be recovered by players and compiled into [[http://www.mediafire.com/download/uu62g8o5utzamrw/Dino+Attack+RPG+Archive+v1.3.zip a downloadable archive]], but that leaves about two thirds of the RPG LostForever.lost.
5th Sep '16 2:29:39 PM Drewsko
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* ShrugOfGod: Not even [=Andrewnuva199=] knows what Ata put in Zero's coffee, or if there even was anything put in there.

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* ShrugOfGod: Not even [=Andrewnuva199=] knows what Ata put in Zero's coffee, or if there even was anything put in there.coffee.
5th Sep '16 8:42:01 AM PeabodySam
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** More of an Author Allusion, but Sam Throramebi drew comparisons between [[Franchise/LEGOAlphaTeam Evil Ogel]] and [[Toys/{{BIONICLE}} Makuta Teridax]], who are two of Greg Farshtey's favorite villains to write.

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** More of an Author Allusion, but Sam Throramebi drew comparisons between [[Franchise/LEGOAlphaTeam [[Toys/LEGOAlphaTeam Evil Ogel]] and [[Toys/{{BIONICLE}} Makuta Teridax]], who are two of Greg Farshtey's favorite villains to write.



** The idea that there is a relationship between Kate and Wallace Bishop only came about after Atton Rand noticed they both had the same last name.
** Rex's physical appearance was based upon [[Franchise/LEGOAlphaTeam Alpha Team]] Special Agent Zed, who was [=PeabodySam=]'s Website/{{BZPower}} avatar when ''Dino Attack RPG'' was created. This was suggested by other members of the RPG during that time, who mentally linked [=PeabodySam=]'s avatar to Rex's appearance. Similarly, Frozeen's appearance was created by ''Roleplay/AlphaTeamMissionDeepFreezeRPG'' host Victor Draven, who imagined Frozeen with Pepper Roni's head.



* CreatorBacklash:
** "Backlash" might be putting it too strongly, but while [=PeabodySam=] considers ''Dino Attack RPG'' an overall success, he is also aware that it failed in several regards, and other LEGO [=TBRPGs=] that try too hard to emulate ''Dino Attack RPG'' end up suffering from these failures as well. One such failure was the way {{Story Arc}}s were handled; while they succeeded in bringing players together, they always suffered from ArcFatigue. With a group of devoted ''Dino Attack RPG'' players and a host who was able to attend to the RPG, this could be overcome, but when the formula was tried by ''Alpha Team RPG: Ogel's Last Stand'' and ''LEGO Universe RPG'', it failed miserably, with hosts too busy to attend to the RPG combined with players who quickly left the RPG following the initial NewbieBoom that all new [=RPGs=] face. As such, [=PeabodySam=] urges fellow TBRPG hosts to avoid emulating ''Dino Attack RPG'' or handling things a certain way just because ''Dino Attack RPG'' did it that way.
** Atton Rand has mixed feelings about Trigger. While he did have some fun going against the primary characters he used to play in other [=RPGs=] (young idealistic action girls, some of which may have gone into Mary Sue territory), he does somewhat regret handling the character the way he did.
** [=PeabodySam=] is not especially fond of how Talia Kaahs and Shannon Grimton were handled in the RPG and considers them some of the weakest elements of his writing, largely due to being [[SatelliteLoveInterest underdeveloped flat characters who only existed for the purpose of being love interests of other more-developed characters]]. Grimton in particular suffers from being a last-minute addition to the story, giving her very little time to develop and resulting in a very rushed RomanticPlotTumor. Kaahs, on the other hand, was introduced much earlier but was rarely given any screentime; her FishOutOfTemporalWater status was barely even touched upon, even though it could have been PlayedForDrama (much like Steve Rogers in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'') for some much-needed character development.
** Also see OldShame.

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* CreatorBacklash:
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CreatorBacklash: "Backlash" might be putting it too strongly, but while [=PeabodySam=] considers ''Dino Attack RPG'' an overall success, he is also aware that it failed in several regards, and other LEGO [=TBRPGs=] that try too hard to emulate ''Dino Attack RPG'' end up suffering from these failures as well. One such failure was the way {{Story Arc}}s were handled; while they succeeded in bringing players together, they always suffered from ArcFatigue. With a group of devoted ''Dino Attack RPG'' players and a host who was able to attend to the RPG, this could be overcome, but when the formula was tried by ''Alpha Team RPG: Ogel's Last Stand'' and ''LEGO Universe RPG'', it failed miserably, with hosts too busy to attend to the RPG combined with players who quickly left the RPG following the initial NewbieBoom that all new [=RPGs=] face. As such, [=PeabodySam=] urges fellow TBRPG hosts to avoid emulating ''Dino Attack RPG'' or handling things a certain way just because ''Dino Attack RPG'' did it that way.
** Atton Rand has mixed feelings about Trigger. While he did have some fun going against the primary characters he used to play in other [=RPGs=] (young idealistic action girls, some of which may have gone into Mary Sue territory), he does somewhat regret handling the character the way he did.
** [=PeabodySam=] is not especially fond of how Talia Kaahs and Shannon Grimton were handled in the RPG and considers them some of the weakest elements of his writing, largely due to being [[SatelliteLoveInterest underdeveloped flat characters who only existed for the purpose of being love interests of other more-developed characters]]. Grimton in particular suffers from being a last-minute addition to the story, giving her very little time to develop and resulting in a very rushed RomanticPlotTumor. Kaahs, on the other hand, was introduced much earlier but was rarely given any screentime; her FishOutOfTemporalWater status was barely even touched upon, even though it could have been PlayedForDrama (much like Steve Rogers in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'') for some much-needed character development.
** Also see OldShame.
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** The first pages of ''DINO ATTACK: Saga of a Conflict'' were released on July 1, 2011, the 11-year anniversary of ''Dino Attack RPG''.



*** Rex's physical appearance was based upon [[Toys/LEGOAlphaTeam Alpha Team]] Special Agent Zed, who was [=PeabodySam=]'s Website/{{BZPower}} avatar when ''Dino Attack RPG'' was created. This was suggested by other members of the RPG during that time, who mentally linked [=PeabodySam=]'s avatar to Rex's appearance. Similarly, Frozeen's appearance was created by ''Roleplay/AlphaTeamMissionDeepFreezeRPG'' host Victor Draven, who imagined Frozeen with Pepper Roni's head.



** The main reason why Atton Rand abandoned [[Franchise/RockRaiders Axle's]] role in the RPG after his return from hiatus was because he was a bit embarrassed and wanted to focus more on characters he actually created, rather than just using ones already made by Franchise/{{LEGO}}, although most of Atton's later characters tended to be [[{{Expy}} expies]] of famous movie or television characters.

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** The main reason why Atton Rand abandoned [[Franchise/RockRaiders [[Toys/RockRaiders Axle's]] role in the RPG after his return from hiatus was because he was a bit embarrassed and wanted to focus more on characters he actually created, rather than just using ones already made by Franchise/{{LEGO}}, although most of Atton's later characters tended to be [[{{Expy}} expies]] of famous movie or television characters.



** Atton Rand has admitted to regretting certain choices he made in ''At War's End''. In particular he has admitted to regret abandoning the idea to have Firecracker perform a HeroicSacrifice in favor of a KarmaHoudini and even talked about writing a FixFic giving the character some sort of dignified closure. He has also regretted the way he handled Trigger and Snake, and isn't proud of Plastic Serpent. Also, despite having built TheReveal early on, he is somewhat embarrassed by the reveal of Jenny being Dr. Strangebrick's daughter.

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** Atton Rand has admitted to regretting certain choices he made in ''At War's End''. In particular he has admitted to regret abandoning the idea to have Firecracker perform a HeroicSacrifice in favor of a KarmaHoudini and even talked about writing a FixFic giving the character some sort of dignified closure. He has also regretted the way he handled Trigger (while he did have some fun going against the primary characters he used to play in other [=RPGs=] - young idealistic action girls, some of which may have gone into Mary Sue territory - he does somewhat regret handling the character the way he did) and Snake, and isn't proud of Plastic Serpent. Also, despite having built TheReveal early on, he is somewhat embarrassed by the reveal of Jenny being Dr. Strangebrick's daughter.



** [=PeabodySam=] is not especially fond of how Talia Kaahs and Shannon Grimton were handled in the RPG and considers them some of the weakest elements of his writing, largely due to being [[SatelliteLoveInterest underdeveloped flat characters who only existed for the purpose of being love interests of other more-developed characters]]. Grimton in particular suffers from being a last-minute addition to the story, giving her very little time to develop and resulting in a very rushed RomanticPlotTumor. Kaahs, on the other hand, was introduced much earlier but was rarely given any screentime; her FishOutOfTemporalWater status was barely even touched upon, even though it could have been PlayedForDrama (much like Steve Rogers in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'') for some much-needed character development.
** that guy from that show does not look back fondly upon the romance of Hertz and Naomi.
* OrphanedReference: Frank Einstein was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally]] going to have a much weaker version of Zachary's power to control the Maelstrom. There was a small reference to this in ''Merciful Escape'', where Einstein was "concentrating incredibly hard" when he and Rex encountered a darkness-breed Mutant Lizard; it was intended that Einstein was using the Maelstrom to influence the Mutant Lizard into ignoring them. However, while this was meant to be foreshadowing a later scene in the RPG, that scene was ultimately cut, so this went nowhere.



** Much of ''The Madness of Agent Zero'' is based upon the concept of one writer's work being taken out of his hands and rewritten by others, which is what happened when Zero's story was subjected to retcons by [=PeabodySam=] and [=Andrewnuva199=] after his original writer, BZP Noob #30000, left the RPG. This short story shows what this is like from the perspective of in-universe characters.



* SleeperHit: Considering how Website/{{BZPower}} [[ItWillNeverCatchOn dismissed]] the Toys/LEGODinoAttack line, it is quite surprising that the ''Dino Attack RPG'' was met with huge popularity.

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** It took about four years, but ''The Madness of Agent Zero'' was finally finished in mid-2016.
* ShrugOfGod: Not even [=Andrewnuva199=] knows what Ata put in Zero's coffee, or if there even was anything put in there.
* SleeperHit: Considering how Website/{{BZPower}} [[ItWillNeverCatchOn dismissed]] the Toys/LEGODinoAttack line, plus the fact that LEGO General Discussion (and the later LEGO RPG subforum) doesn't get as much attention as the rest of the website, it is quite surprising that the ''Dino Attack RPG'' was met with huge popularity.lasted as long as it did.


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** The idea that there is a relationship between Kate and Wallace Bishop only came about after Atton Rand noticed they both had the same last name.
** A Dino Attack agent codenamed Pilot appears in ''The Madness of Agent Zero'' as a throwaway reference to ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront''. There is nothing in the story that explicitly makes him Letagi's primary character of the same name. When asked about it, [=Andrewnuva199's=] response was basically [[ShrugOfGod "Sure, why not?"]]
3rd Jul '16 5:16:24 PM nombretomado
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** More of an Author Allusion, but Sam Throramebi drew comparisons between [[Franchise/LEGOAlphaTeam Evil Ogel]] and [[Franchise/{{BIONICLE}} Makuta Teridax]], who are two of Greg Farshtey's favorite villains to write.

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** More of an Author Allusion, but Sam Throramebi drew comparisons between [[Franchise/LEGOAlphaTeam Evil Ogel]] and [[Franchise/{{BIONICLE}} [[Toys/{{BIONICLE}} Makuta Teridax]], who are two of Greg Farshtey's favorite villains to write.



*** Take two shots if it has anything to do with Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}.

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*** Take two shots if it has anything to do with Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}.Toys/{{BIONICLE}}.



** Most people refer to the Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}[=/=][[Toys/LEGOExoForce Exo-Force]] crossover as the ''[[XMeetsY BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG]]'', as a reference to the fact that it had very little to do with the rest of ''Dino Attack RPG''.[[note]][[DontExplainTheJoke Note that "Dino Attack" is mentioned nowhere in "BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG".]][[/note]]

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** Most people refer to the Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}[=/=][[Toys/LEGOExoForce Toys/{{BIONICLE}}[=/=][[Toys/LEGOExoForce Exo-Force]] crossover as the ''[[XMeetsY BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG]]'', as a reference to the fact that it had very little to do with the rest of ''Dino Attack RPG''.[[note]][[DontExplainTheJoke Note that "Dino Attack" is mentioned nowhere in "BIONICLE Meets Exo-Force RPG".]][[/note]]
21st Jun '16 6:01:14 PM PeabodySam
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** And now that the Website/{{BZPower}} Forum Archive has been taken down following a hacking incident in February 2013, the entire original ''Dino Attack RPG'' has become an extreme case of this trope.[[note]]That's 224 pages, 8924 posts, and about five and a half years of MissingEpisode.[[/note]] Fortunately, over a third of the RPG was able to be recovered by players and compiled into [[http://www.mediafire.com/download/okzo0bk9seb2odk/Dino_Attack_RPG_Archive.zip a downloadable archive]], but that leaves about two thirds of the RPG LostForever.

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** And now that the Website/{{BZPower}} Forum Archive has been taken down following a hacking incident in February 2013, the entire original ''Dino Attack RPG'' has become an extreme case of this trope.[[note]]That's 224 pages, 8924 posts, and about five and a half years of MissingEpisode.[[/note]] Fortunately, over a third of the RPG was able to be recovered by players and compiled into [[http://www.mediafire.com/download/okzo0bk9seb2odk/Dino_Attack_RPG_Archive.com/download/uu62g8o5utzamrw/Dino+Attack+RPG+Archive+v1.3.zip a downloadable archive]], but that leaves about two thirds of the RPG LostForever.
21st Jun '16 5:58:06 PM PeabodySam
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** The RPG ended on [[MayanDoomsday December 21, 2012]]. Coincidentally, ''Roleplay/AlphaTeamMissionDeepFreeze'' (the direct inspiration for ''Dino Attack RPG'') started on December 21, 2004, turning this into a case of BookEnds as well.

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** The RPG ended on [[MayanDoomsday December 21, 2012]]. Coincidentally, ''Roleplay/AlphaTeamMissionDeepFreeze'' ''Roleplay/AlphaTeamMissionDeepFreezeRPG'' (the direct inspiration for ''Dino Attack RPG'') started on December 21, 2004, turning this into a case of BookEnds as well.
16th Jun '16 9:20:47 AM PeabodySam
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* DearNegativeReader: An odd example, where it isn't directed at negative readers of the RPG, but rather negative readers of this TV Tropes page. [=PeabodySam=] has expressed disappointment on numerous occasions that people criticize ''Dino Attack RPG'' for its presence on this website, rather than offering any constructive criticism about the RPG itself. In response, Brikman [=McStudz=] and that guy from that show have stated that there is NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity.



* MeaningfulReleaseDate:
** The RPG ended on [[MayanDoomsday December 21, 2012]]. Coincidentally, ''Roleplay/AlphaTeamMissionDeepFreeze'' (the direct inspiration for ''Dino Attack RPG'') started on December 21, 2004, turning this into a case of BookEnds as well.
** The epilogue to ''Dino Attack in a Nutshell'' was uploaded on July 1, 2015, the 10-year anniversary of ''Dino Attack RPG''.



* NamesTheSame:
** When you say Kate Bishop are you referring to the comic book superhero, the Victorian-era actress, or the teenaged rookie in the Dino Attack Team?
** Even better, [[http://www.sarah-bishop.com/ her mother]] shares a name with a famous Australian painter.
** Barry Jackson's name was meant to be a shout-out to actor [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001608/ Barry Pepper]], but [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Jackson according to Wikipedia]], he is also an actor, several athletes in different sports, a theatre director, and a production designer.
*** Of course, to be fair, Jackson is a fairly common last name, so such coincidences are inevitable.
** Also [[http://www.alanspierce.com/attorney-profiles/alan-s-pierce.html Alan Pierce is an attorney.]]
** Despite popular belief, agent Kevin "Knuckles" Kabrinsky is ''not'' named after Knuckles the Echidna from ''SonicTheHedgehog''.
** Get this. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Alexander Dr. Rex Alexander]] is a former college basketball coach. Now, would we say that his Name's the Same as Rex Alexander or Dr. "Rex" Alexander? [[TakeAThirdOption Or both?]]
** In some instances, there are characters in ''Dino Attack RPG'' who have the same names and analogous roles as characters in official LEGO canon, but are intended to be separate characters. For example, there's a pirate named Greybeard who was once a member of Captain Redbeard's crew, and then there's another pirate named Greybeard who was once a member of Captain Redbeard's crew... and his soccer team. There's also a diver named Dan who helped out in recovering the lost Constructopedia pages in the sea where LEGO Island once was, and then there's a diver named Dan who lives in LEGO Town.
** The name "El Paso" for the town where Clint and Angel Eyes were to meet was chosen partially at random as it seemed to have a suitable Western vibe for the environment. It turns out that is also the name of an actual city in Texas, making the connection surprisingly stronger.

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* NamesTheSame:
** When you say Kate Bishop are you referring to the comic book superhero, the Victorian-era actress, or the teenaged rookie in the Dino Attack Team?
** Even better, [[http://www.sarah-bishop.com/ her mother]] shares a name with a famous Australian painter.
** Barry Jackson's name was meant to be a shout-out to actor [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001608/ Barry Pepper]], but [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Jackson according to Wikipedia]], he is also an actor, several athletes in different sports, a theatre director, and a production designer.
*** Of course, to be fair, Jackson is a fairly common last name, so such coincidences are inevitable.
** Also [[http://www.alanspierce.com/attorney-profiles/alan-s-pierce.html Alan Pierce is an attorney.]]
** Despite popular belief, agent Kevin "Knuckles" Kabrinsky is ''not'' named after Knuckles the Echidna from ''SonicTheHedgehog''.
** Get this. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Alexander Dr. Rex Alexander]] is a former college basketball coach. Now, would we say that his Name's the Same as Rex Alexander or Dr. "Rex" Alexander? [[TakeAThirdOption Or both?]]
**
NamesTheSame: In some instances, there are characters in ''Dino Attack RPG'' who have the same names and analogous roles as characters in official LEGO canon, but are intended to be separate characters. For example, there's a pirate named Greybeard who was once a member of Captain Redbeard's crew, and then there's another pirate named Greybeard who was once a member of Captain Redbeard's crew... and his soccer team. There's also a diver named Dan who helped out in recovering the lost Constructopedia pages in the sea where LEGO Island once was, and then there's a diver named Dan who lives in LEGO Town.
** The name "El Paso" for the town where Clint and Angel Eyes were to meet was chosen partially at random as it seemed to have a suitable Western vibe for the environment. It turns out that is also the name of an actual city in Texas, making the connection surprisingly stronger.
Town.



* TooSoon: After poking humor at Engineer's (very recent) death, Zach immediately backpedaled a little and noted that his joke might have been distasteful.

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* TooSoon: After poking humor at Engineer's (very recent) death, Zach immediately backpedaled a little and noted that his joke might have been distasteful.TributeToFido: Sereve's dog Bailey is named after Sand Hawk 1's dog.



* WorkingTitle: ''Merciful Escape'' and ''First Assignment'' were written under the title "HTTYML", which stood for "[[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon How To Train Your Mutant Lizard]]".

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* WorkingTitle: WorkingTitle:
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''Merciful Escape'' and ''First Assignment'' were written under the title "HTTYML", which stood for "[[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon How To Train Your Mutant Lizard]]".Lizard]]".
** ''Dino Attack: Legacy'' previews were released under the name "Project LEGACY".
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