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* CreatorBacklash: In an interview in the book ''The Anatomy of Fear: Conversations with Cult Horror and Science Fiction Film Creators'', Glen Morgan had [[http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3416909/story-behind-missing-scenes-black-christmas-remake/ little nice to say]] about his experience working on the film, insisting that there was so much ExecutiveMeddling that the Weinstein brothers may as well have been the film's real creators. It was an additional sting because he was a huge fan of the original film.



* OldShame: In an interview in the book ''The Anatomy of Fear: Conversations with Cult Horror and Science Fiction Film Creators'', Glen Morgan had [[http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3416909/story-behind-missing-scenes-black-christmas-remake/ little nice to say]] about his experience working on the film, insisting that there was so much ExecutiveMeddling that the Weinstein brothers may as well have been the film's real creators. It was an additional sting because he was a huge fan of the original film.
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** The original version of this remake had, among other things, more {{character development}} and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.

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** The original version of this remake had, among other things, more {{character development}} and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.movie, and said that the executives might as well have been the real creators of the film.
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Misuse. Made back its budget.


* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $9 million (not counting marketing expenses), $30 million (counting them). Box office, $16,273,581 (domestic), $21,510,851 (worldwide). Was released straight-to-DVD in many overseas markets.
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* CreatorKiller: Glen Morgan, a writer and producer on ''Series/TheXFiles'', ''Series/SpaceAboveAndBeyond'', and ''Series/{{Millennium}}'', broke into film when he wrote the [[Film/FinalDestination1 first]] and [[Film/FinalDestination3 third]] ''Franchise/FinalDestination'' films, ''Film/TheOne'', and the 2003 remake of ''[[Literature/RatmansNotebooks Willard]]'' (which was also his directorial debut). However, he never wrote or directed another feature film after the ExecutiveMeddling he endured on this film and its subsequent critical mauling, which caused him to return to working in television.

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* CreatorKiller: Glen Morgan, a writer and producer on ''Series/TheXFiles'', ''Series/SpaceAboveAndBeyond'', and ''Series/{{Millennium}}'', ''Series/Millennium1996'', broke into film when he wrote the [[Film/FinalDestination1 first]] and [[Film/FinalDestination3 third]] ''Franchise/FinalDestination'' films, ''Film/TheOne'', and the 2003 remake of ''[[Literature/RatmansNotebooks Willard]]'' (which was also his directorial debut). However, he never wrote or directed another feature film after the ExecutiveMeddling he endured on this film and its subsequent critical mauling, which caused him to return to working in television.
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I meant to say Spared By The Cut. Not sure why I put Killed By Request.
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Being Killed Offscreen in one cut but not the our is not the same as being Killed By Request.


** [[spoiler: Lauren Hannon's original death scene involved Agnes sneaking into her room and gouging her eyes out with the glass unicorn in an homage to the original where Barbara Coard was stabbed to death with a glass unicorn by Billy.]] Her death scene is completely absent from the theatrical cut where her corpse is merely found by Kelli, Leigh, and Kyle. It was restored for the unrated version.

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* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler: Lauren Hannon's original death scene involved Agnes sneaking into her room and gouging her eyes out with the glass unicorn in an homage to the original where Barbara Coard was stabbed to death with a glass unicorn by Billy.]] Her death scene is completely absent from the theatrical cut where her corpse is merely found by Kelli, Leigh, and Kyle. It was restored for the unrated version.

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* SparedByTheCut: SparedByTheCut:
** [[spoiler:Melissa]] survives in the original script, but in the actual movie is KilledByRequest.
** [[spoiler:Leigh]] is still alive in the script and the first filmed ending but gets her neck snapped in a scene added for the final cut.
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[[spoiler: Lauren Hannon's original death scene involved Agnes sneaking into her room and gouging her eyes out with the glass unicorn in an homage to the original where Barbara Coard was stabbed to death with a glass unicorn by Billy.]] Her death scene is completely absent from the theatrical cut where her corpse is merely found by Kelli, Leigh, and Kyle. It was restored for the unrated version.
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** Melissa was written as Asian, but changed to white when Michelle Trachtenberg was cast. Lauren was then cast with a biracial actress Crystal Lowe (who is half Chinese).

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** Melissa was written as Asian, but changed to white when Michelle Trachtenberg was cast. Lauren was then cast with a biracial actress Crystal Lowe Creator/CrystalLowe (who is half Chinese).
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* Recut: At least three different cuts are known to exist: the R-rated theatrical cut released in the US, running 90 minutes, an unrated cut released on DVD, running 92 minutes, and a UK theatrical cut, running 86 minutes. The unrated cut is similar to the R-rated cut, but a few small bits were put back, most notably [[spoiler: Lauren's death]]. In the UK cut, both Melissa's death and the ending are completely different, and some brief dialogue scenes were cut or added.

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* Recut: {{Recut}}: At least three different cuts are known to exist: the R-rated theatrical cut released in the US, running 90 minutes, an unrated cut released on DVD, running 92 minutes, and a UK theatrical cut, running 86 minutes. The unrated cut is similar to the R-rated cut, but a few small bits were put back, most notably [[spoiler: Lauren's death]]. In the UK cut, both Melissa's death and the ending are completely different, and some brief dialogue scenes were cut or added.
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* Recut: At least three different cuts are known to exist: the R-rated theatrical cut released in the US, running 90 minutes, an unrated cut released on DVD, running 92 minutes, and a UK theatrical cut, running 86 minutes. The unrated cut is similar to the R-rated cut, but a few small bits were put back, most notably [[spoiler: Lauren's death]]. In the UK cut, both Melissa's death and the ending are completely different, and some brief dialogue scenes were cut or added.

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* ActingForTwo: Camera operator Dean Friss plays [[spoiler: both Billy and Agnes]], and had trouble differentiating his voice for the latter.



* CreatorCouple: Kristen Cloke, who plays Leigh, is Glen Morgan's wife.



* DeletedRole: Anne Marie [=DeLuise=] and Greg Kean filmed a scene as Kelli's parents that ended up cut.



** Creator/MaryElizabethWinstead was often cast as the wholesome GirlNextDoor, and would be the most likely of the cast to play a FinalGirl at the time. Heather is TheLoad of the group, and is made out to be an AssholeVictim.

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** Creator/MaryElizabethWinstead was often cast as the wholesome GirlNextDoor, and would be the most likely of the cast to play a FinalGirl at the time. Heather is TheLoad of the group, and is made out to be an AssholeVictim. In fact, she was offered the role of Kelli first but chose to play Heather to avoid being typecast.



* ProductionPosse: Glen Morgan directed Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Crystal Lowe in ''Film/FinalDestination3''. Jody Racicot was also in that film.



* SparedByTheCut: Lauren Hannon's original death scene involved Agnes sneaking into her room and gouging her eyes out with the glass unicorn in an homage to the original where Barbara Coard was stabbed to death with a glass unicorn by Billy. Her death scene is completely absent from the theatrical cut where her corpse is merely found by Kelli, Leigh, and Kyle. It was restored for the unrated version.

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* RealitySubtext: Melissa giving us Billy's backstory ends up paralleling Michelle Trachtenberg getting interested in serial killers while making the film. She'd apparently read about them during breaks.
* SparedByTheCut: [[spoiler: Lauren Hannon's original death scene involved Agnes sneaking into her room and gouging her eyes out with the glass unicorn in an homage to the original where Barbara Coard was stabbed to death with a glass unicorn by Billy. Billy.]] Her death scene is completely absent from the theatrical cut where her corpse is merely found by Kelli, Leigh, and Kyle. It was restored for the unrated version.version.
* ThrowItIn: [[spoiler: Dana's tears during her death scene]] were just Lacey Chabert's eyes watering from all the dirt in the crawl space.


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** Melissa was written as Asian, but changed to white when Michelle Trachtenberg was cast. Lauren was then cast with a biracial actress Crystal Lowe (who is half Chinese).
* WordOfGod: Producer James Wong {{Hand Wave}}d [[spoiler: Mrs Mac's seemingly implausible death by icicle]]. She was apparently a hockey player in her youth, was struck in the head and didn't get it checked out - allowing her head to soften and become vulnerable.

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* CameoProp: During one scene the famous "leg lamp" from ''Film/AChristmasStory'' can be seen in the background. This may be a reference to Bob Clark, the director of the original film.
* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/MaryElizabethWinstead was initially offered the role Kelli Pressley but insisted on taking the role of victim Heather Fitzgerald to avoid being typecast.



** The original version of this remake had, among other things, more character development and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.

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** The original version of this remake had, among other things, more character development {{character development}} and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.



* InMemoriam: The words "Goodbye Shirley" can be seen early on in the credits in honor of composer Shirley Walker. This was the last film she worked on before her passing.

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* HeyItsThatPlace: The hospital at the end of the film is the same hospital used on ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' also starring Creator/KatieCassidy.
* InMemoriam: The words "Goodbye Shirley" can be seen early on in the credits in honor of composer Shirley Walker. Music/ShirleyWalker. This was the last film she worked on before her passing.passing.
* IronyAsSheIsCast: The "ugly duckling" sorority sister Eve was played by Kathleen Kole was a model at the time of her being cast in the movie. This is her only film credit.



* MeaningfulReleaseDate: The remake opened in the US on December 25, 2006. The UK got it ten days earlier, on December 15th.

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* LoopingLines: Ariana Dubynin did a lot of ADR for the screaming in the scenes when the girls were being killed.
* MeaningfulReleaseDate: The remake film opened in the US on December 25, 2006. The UK got it ten days earlier, on December 15th.



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** Mary Elizabeth Winstead was often cast as the wholesome GirlNextDoor, and would be the most likely of the cast to play a FinalGirl at the time. Heather is TheLoad of the group, and is made out to be an AssholeVictim.

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** Mary Elizabeth Winstead Creator/MaryElizabethWinstead was often cast as the wholesome GirlNextDoor, and would be the most likely of the cast to play a FinalGirl at the time. Heather is TheLoad of the group, and is made out to be an AssholeVictim.


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* PromotedFangirl: Glen Morgan approached Creator/MaryElizabethWinstead about the movie at 4 AM in the airport after finishing ''Film/FinalDestination3'' with her. After being hesitant at first after only just finishing a horror movie, she agreed to the role of Heather because she is a fan of the 1974 version.
* SparedByTheCut: Lauren Hannon's original death scene involved Agnes sneaking into her room and gouging her eyes out with the glass unicorn in an homage to the original where Barbara Coard was stabbed to death with a glass unicorn by Billy. Her death scene is completely absent from the theatrical cut where her corpse is merely found by Kelli, Leigh, and Kyle. It was restored for the unrated version.


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** Creator/AmandaSeyfried auditioned for the lead role of Kelli, but lost to Creator/KatieCassidy. The filmmakers stated that they turned her down because they didn't want two Film/MeanGirls, Seyfried and Creator/LaceyChabert, to star in the film.
** Creator/AmberTamblyn turned down the role of Heather due to scheduling conflict with ''Film/TheGrudge2''.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Bob Clark, who directed the original, gave Glen Morgan his approval.



* ExecutiveMeddling: The original version of this remake had, among other things, more character development and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: ExecutiveMeddling:
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The original version of this remake had, among other things, more character development and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.movie.
** Having Agnes as a second killer was also forced by executives, as well as the cast being full of "kids from ''Series/TheOC''."



* KilledByRequest: Melissa originally survived the film. Creator/MichelleTrachtenberg, having finished ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', was reluctant to do a horror film. She agreed on the condition that she be killed off.

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* KilledByRequest: [[spoiler: Melissa originally survived the film. Creator/MichelleTrachtenberg, having finished ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', was reluctant to do a horror film. She agreed on the condition that she be killed off.]]



* OldShame: In an interview in the book ''The Anatomy of Fear: Conversations with Cult Horror and Science Fiction Film Creators'', Glen Morgan had [[http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3416909/story-behind-missing-scenes-black-christmas-remake/ little nice to say]] about his experience working on the film, insisting that there was so much ExecutiveMeddling that the Weinstein brothers may as well have been the film's real creators.

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* OldShame: In an interview in the book ''The Anatomy of Fear: Conversations with Cult Horror and Science Fiction Film Creators'', Glen Morgan had [[http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3416909/story-behind-missing-scenes-black-christmas-remake/ little nice to say]] about his experience working on the film, insisting that there was so much ExecutiveMeddling that the Weinstein brothers may as well have been the film's real creators. It was an additional sting because he was a huge fan of the original film.
* PlayingAgainstType:
** Mary Elizabeth Winstead was often cast as the wholesome GirlNextDoor, and would be the most likely of the cast to play a FinalGirl at the time. Heather is TheLoad of the group, and is made out to be an AssholeVictim.
** Katie Cassidy had played the AlphaBitch in the remake of ''Film/WhenAStrangerCalls'' previously. Here, she's the closest thing the movie has to a FinalGirl.



** Originally, the big twist was that Billy had died at the asylum and it was Agnes doing all the murders. Agnes was only his half-sister, not his sister/daughter; Leigh was supposed to live at the end, and the movie was supposed to end in a similar manner to the original with Leigh and Kelli getting a phone call from Kyle's cell. This specific ending was actually filmed, but eventually discarded in favor of the current one.

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** Originally, the big twist was that Billy had died at the asylum and it was Agnes doing all the murders. Agnes was only his half-sister, not his sister/daughter; [[spoiler: Leigh was supposed to live at the end, and the movie was supposed to end in a similar manner to the original with Leigh and Kelli getting a phone call from Kyle's cell. cell.]] This specific ending was actually filmed, but eventually discarded in favor of the current one.
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* GenreKiller: The film's extremely negative reviews and lackluster box office killed off the [[HorrorDoesntSettleForSimpleTuesday Christmas Horror]] genre for nearly a decade.

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* GenreKiller: The film's extremely negative reviews and lackluster box office killed off the [[HorrorDoesntSettleForSimpleTuesday Christmas Horror]] genre for nearly a decade. It took ''Film/{{Krampus}}'' to resurrect to notion of the genre as theatrically viable - however, the underperformance of ''Film/BlackChristmas2019'' may have put it right back in jeopardy.
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** Originally, the big twist was that Billy had died at the asylum and it was Agnes doing all the murders. Agnes was only his half-sister, not his sister/daughter; Leigh was supposed to live at the end; and the movie was supposed to end in a similar manner to the original with Leigh and Kelli getting a phone call from Kyle's cell. This specific ending was actually filmed, but eventually discarded in favor of the current one.
** Glen Morgan wanted Creator/AndreaMartin or Creator/MargotKidder, who played EnsembleDarkhorse Barb from the original, to play the house mother. The house mother in the remake's first name is Barbara, an obvious homage to Kidder's character, despite Martin playing the role.

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** Originally, the big twist was that Billy had died at the asylum and it was Agnes doing all the murders. Agnes was only his half-sister, not his sister/daughter; Leigh was supposed to live at the end; end, and the movie was supposed to end in a similar manner to the original with Leigh and Kelli getting a phone call from Kyle's cell. This specific ending was actually filmed, but eventually discarded in favor of the current one.
** Glen Morgan wanted Creator/AndreaMartin or Creator/MargotKidder, who played EnsembleDarkhorse Barb from in the original, to play the house mother. The house mother in the remake's first name is Barbara, an obvious homage to Kidder's character, despite Martin playing the role.
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* ReCut: There are three cuts of the film. There's the 91-minute North American cut, the 95-minute unrated cut with extra footage, and the 84-minute European cut with some different footage, including a different death for Melissa.
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* GenreKiller: While it did well at the box office, the extremely negative reviews this film got killed off the [[HorrorDoesntSettleForSimpleTuesday Christmas Horror]] genre for nearly a decade.

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* GenreKiller: While it did well at the box office, the The film's extremely negative reviews this film got and lackluster box office killed off the [[HorrorDoesntSettleForSimpleTuesday Christmas Horror]] genre for nearly a decade.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $9 million (not counting marketing expenses), $30 million (counting them). Box office, $16,273,581 (domestic), $21,510,851 (worldwide). Was released straight-to-DVD in many overseas markets.
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* GenreKiller: While it did well at the box office, the extremely negative reviews this film got killed off the ChristmasHorror genre for nearly a decade.

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* GenreKiller: While it did well at the box office, the extremely negative reviews this film got killed off the ChristmasHorror [[HorrorDoesntSettleForSimpleTuesday Christmas Horror]] genre for nearly a decade.
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* GenreKiller: While it did well at the box office, the extremely negative reviews this film got killed off the ChristmasHorror genre for nearly a decade.
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* ReCut: There are three cuts of the film. There's the 91-minute North American cut, the 95-minute unrated cut with extra footage, and the 84-minute European cut with some different footage, including a different death for Melissa.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original version of the remake had, among other things, more character development and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The original version of the this remake had, among other things, more character development and deaths more akin to the original; Dimension Films stepped in and started demanding rewrites and re-shoots (they're infamous for this sort of thing, see ''Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers'' and ''Film/HellraiserBloodline'') to the point that director Glen Morgan has gone on record to say he '''hated''' the movie.
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* MissingTrailerScene: Due to ExecutiveMeddling, the trailers were loaded with footage shot specifically for promotional purposes because the producers didn't think the film itself was marketable enough. This didn't sit well with the director.

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* MissingTrailerScene: Due to ExecutiveMeddling, the trailers were loaded with footage shot specifically for promotional purposes because the producers didn't think the film itself was marketable enough. This didn't sit well with the director. All of them can be viewed ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7QFJRcYwlI here]]''.

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* CreatorKiller: Morgan's career after this has been ''exclusively'' in TV.

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* CreatorKiller: Morgan's career Glen Morgan, a writer and producer on ''Series/TheXFiles'', ''Series/SpaceAboveAndBeyond'', and ''Series/{{Millennium}}'', broke into film when he wrote the [[Film/FinalDestination1 first]] and [[Film/FinalDestination3 third]] ''Franchise/FinalDestination'' films, ''Film/TheOne'', and the 2003 remake of ''[[Literature/RatmansNotebooks Willard]]'' (which was also his directorial debut). However, he never wrote or directed another feature film after the ExecutiveMeddling he endured on this has been ''exclusively'' film and its subsequent critical mauling, which caused him to return to working in TV.television.



* KilledByRequest: Melissa originally survived the film. Creator/MichelleTrachtenberg, having finished ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', was reluctant to do a horror film. She agreed on the condition that she be killed off.



* OldShame: In an interview in the book ''The Anatomy of Fear: Conversations with Cult Horror and Science Fiction Film Creators'', Morgan had [[http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3416909/story-behind-missing-scenes-black-christmas-remake/ little nice to say]] about his experience working on the film, insisting that there was so much ExecutiveMeddling that the Weinstein brothers may as well have been the film's real creators.

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* NoStuntDouble: All the girls did their own stunts.
* OldShame: In an interview in the book ''The Anatomy of Fear: Conversations with Cult Horror and Science Fiction Film Creators'', Glen Morgan had [[http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3416909/story-behind-missing-scenes-black-christmas-remake/ little nice to say]] about his experience working on the film, insisting that there was so much ExecutiveMeddling that the Weinstein brothers may as well have been the film's real creators.



** Glen Morgan wanted Creator/AndreaMartin or Creator/MargotKidder, who played EnsembleDarkhorse Barb from the original, to play the house mother. The house mother in the remake's first name is Barbara, an obvious homage to Kidder's character, despite Martin playing the role.

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** Glen Morgan wanted Creator/AndreaMartin or Creator/MargotKidder, who played EnsembleDarkhorse Barb from the original, to play the house mother. The house mother in the remake's first name is Barbara, an obvious homage to Kidder's character, despite Martin playing the role.role.
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