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* Adult [[WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine Thomas]] Wooden Railway fans and collectors have not taken kindly to the "Thomas Wood" range that replaced the former range in late 2017, namely the compacted models of bigger engines, how certain parts of engines remained unpainted, and a new track system that is incompatible with track from Thomas Wooden Railway and other third-party brands (though adapters were included for a short time). If the reviews on the Toys R Us website are anything to go by, parents who purchased them for their children have not taken kindly to them, either.
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* Adult [[WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine [[WesternAnimation/ThomasAndFriends Thomas]] Wooden Railway fans and collectors have not taken kindly to the "Thomas Wood" range that replaced the former range in late 2017, namely the compacted models of bigger engines, how certain parts of engines remained unpainted, and a new track system that is incompatible with track from Thomas Wooden Railway and other third-party brands (though adapters were included for a short time). If the reviews on the Toys R Us website are anything to go by, parents who purchased them for their children have not taken kindly to them, either.
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*** Double-bewel gears taking over and nearly completely replacing the classic ones. While some of the bewel gears really are tougher, more fit for heavy duty and can be used in both planar and angular transmissions, the classic gears are all based around the number 8 which makes it easier to get the desired ratio, and often feature pinholes to attach different parts to them. Plus the classic ones look better.
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** The price of small-scale LEGO sets have [[CrackIsCheaper dramatically increased]], but so many consider it corporate suicide.
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** ''Technic'' going nearly completely ''studless''. Now you cannot build anything without the ''pins''. [[UpToEleven Metric trucktons of pins.]] The builds are also more rickety due to this.
*** Older ''Technic'' offered a wider variety of machines and even universal sets. Now it's almost all ''cars''. '''Licensed brand cars.'''
** The price of small-scale LEGO sets have [[CrackIsCheaperdramatically increased]], but increased so dramatically]], many consider it corporate suicide.suicide.
*** Making ''licensed'' sets turned it UpToEleven and now the corporate suicide may actually [[FranchiseKiller become a real thing]].
*** Older ''Technic'' offered a wider variety of machines and even universal sets. Now it's almost all ''cars''. '''Licensed brand cars.'''
** The price of small-scale LEGO sets have [[CrackIsCheaper
*** Making ''licensed'' sets turned it UpToEleven and now the corporate suicide may actually [[FranchiseKiller become a real thing]].
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** The "[[FanNickname Bley]]" scandal. When [[PeripheryDemographic AFOLs]] ordered additional grey parts from LEGO in 2004 because they ran out of them while building e.g. spaceship models, they discovered that LEGO had completely discontinued the old grey and replaced it with a new, more bluish tone without any announcement. New grey parts weren't compatible with older ones anymore, so if these fans wanted to continue working on their models, they would have had to replace all grey parts with bley ones--and pretty much buy their entire stock of grey parts once more in bley. This caused the biggest InternetBacklash against LEGO so far.
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** The "[[FanNickname Bley]]" scandal. When [[PeripheryDemographic AFOLs]] ordered additional grey parts from LEGO in 2004 because they ran out of them while building e.g. spaceship models, they discovered that LEGO had completely discontinued the old grey and replaced it with a new, more bluish tone without any announcement. New grey parts weren't compatible with older ones anymore, so if these fans wanted to continue working on their models, they would have had to replace all grey parts with bley ones--and pretty much buy their entire stock of grey parts once more in bley. This caused the biggest InternetBacklash against LEGO so far.
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** The two most common gripes: The G2's (a set created in the late 90's into early 00's) were too petite and skinny, in a day and age when Bratz were gaining popularity against Barbie. This complaint is sometimes levied against the G4's (''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Friendship is Magic]]'') toys as well. Apparently, women are concerned that their girls are developing an unrealistic body image for horses. The other gripe centers around the 'collect them all' mentality of the G1's and G3's, in which each season saw a release of four to six (or more) brand new ponies with different appearances and poses. Original fans have collections that easily number into the hundreds, with each toy having a unique name and appearance. With the G4's, once you've collected the "Mane Six" (assuming you are looking for toys with hair that can be combed and styled), you're pretty much finished.
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** The two most common gripes: The G2's (a set created in the late 90's into early 00's) were are sometimes accused of being too petite and skinny, in a day and age when Bratz were gaining popularity against Barbie. This skinny - this complaint was particularly common during their heyday, and is sometimes levied against the G4's G4 (''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Friendship is Magic]]'') toys as well. Apparently, women are concerned that their girls are developing an unrealistic body image for horses. horses.
** Theother gripe centers around the first three generations had a bit of a 'collect them all' mentality of the G1's and G3's, mentality, in which each season saw a release of four to six (or more) brand new ponies with different appearances and poses. Original fans have collections that easily number into the hundreds, with each toy having a unique name and appearance. With the G4's, G4 toys, once you've collected the "Mane Six" (assuming you are looking for toys with hair that can be combed and styled), main characters from the TV show, you're pretty much finished.finished - other ponies are few and far between, and some of them, such as Holly Dash, were oddly hard to find even at their time of release, which annoys fans who want more variety.
** Fans have also complained that they toys have gotten smaller over time, became so stylized that [[InformedSpecies they barely resemble ponies]], and have declined in quality (with the hair in particular becoming harder to tame).
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** Fans have also complained that they toys have gotten smaller over time, became so stylized that [[InformedSpecies they barely resemble ponies]], and have declined in quality (with the hair in particular becoming harder to tame).
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* Happened in the ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' fandom every time the characters received a redesign. Notable offenders are the Toa Inika and the Toa Nuva's "Mistika" forms. Perhaps the biggest "unacceptable" change of the franchise was when the tribal island setting of the '01-'03 lines got replaced with a futuristic mega-city, and the storyline drifted away from epic fantasy into light-science fiction territory. Unlike most other examples, almost all of these shifts were in fact planned ahead in the official UniverseBible, and hints were dropped all the way through -- however the FirstInstallmentWins, and any "change" is by default regarded as evil by casual fans who haven't been actively following the toys' and story's advancements. Some extremists even complained about changes that Franchise/{{LEGO}} had no control over, such as all the characters that had to be renamed due to legal reasons.
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* Franchise/{{LEGO}} keeps having this, also because it's a LongRunner that has been catering to several generations of fans meanwhile.
** Slopes. They came with the new brick design with tubes for more friction in 1958, but the early adopters agreed that slopes were completely unnecessary because LEGO had worked perfectly well without slopes before that, even if someone wanted to build something like a house roof. Having actual slopes would kill imagination and creativity.
** Wheels. No, really. LEGO introduced its first wheels in 1961, and there were people who were opposed to them for the same reason as in the case of slopes: It had worked perfectly until then with play-pretending and blue bricks (black was introduced the following year). Eventually, people came to terms with slopes and wheels and even accepted the introduction of rails in 1965.
** The introduction of themes ([[Toys/LegoCity Legoland]], Toys/LegoSpace, Toys/LegoCastle) in TheSeventies. Until then, LEGO buyers were used to getting more or less big containers full of various LEGO parts that could be used to build just about ''everything''. [[{{Hypocrisy}} Never mind that rather specialized building kits had been around for longer than the simple brick boxes.]]
** Even the Toys/LegoMinifigures in their final form with movable limbs and printed-on faces had their share of backlash because LEGO customers regarded them as LEGO becoming more (too much) like Toys/{{Playmobil}}.
** New colors weren't always universally welcomed. LEGO had started with only blue, yellow, red and white. The introduction of black in the late 60s and the introduction of grey bricks (there had been grey plates already) around 1980 were criticized for making LEGO less bright and colorful. Upon the limited introduction of the first green bricks in TheNineties, LEGO was accused of going against their principles--they had refused to produce green bricks for decades to keep kids from building tanks. And, of course, every color that came afterwards was deemed totally unnecessary because "that could have been done with the six colors available for bricks in TheEighties just as well".
** The increasing number of rather specialized parts in TheEighties. This was around the first time that (former) LEGO users had kids themselves for whom they got LEGO sets, just to discover how much LEGO had changed since their own childhood and was still changing rapidly. In particular, the introduction of five-high castle walls in Toys/LegoCastle and pre-shaped sailship hull parts for the new Toys/LegoPirates line felt to many like a shift towards Toys/{{Playmobil}}--again.
** This was also the main criticism for Toys/{{Fabuland}}: It came with too many large, "pre-made" parts like doors in frames, and an automobile could be pieced together from about half a dozen specialized parts, not to mention that the figures couldn't be modified unlike the regular Toys/LegoMinifigures. It was still LEGO, but felt like dumbed down to DUPLO levels.
** [[Toys/LegoTrains The 9V railroad from 1993]] that replaced the CultClassic "grey era" 12V system. Sure, the rails looked neater without the extra power rails in the middle, as did the wheels with their pseudo-bearings on the outside. But gone were spoked wheels and coupling rods that had made halfway believable steamers possible. Gone were remote-controlled switches. Gone were remote-controlled signals that could even cut the electricity in the rails, therefore one could no longer have more than one locomotive on the rails at the same time. Gone was the compatibility with model railroad mini banana plugs and the possibility to make your own cables. And gone were light bricks that could also be mounted ''under'' things and any easy form of interior lighting with them (building illumination had become next to impossible anyway since wiring up the town on your layout with the rather short standard 9V cables would have been way too tedious and expensive).
** Increasingly toyish trains that looked rather like futuristic monorails with not even the most remote resemblance to real trains. LEGO reacted upon the fan criticism for once--and gave their fans the "[[CoolTrain Super Chief]]", one of the first official LEGO sets that weren't intended for kids.
** The "[[FanNickname Bley]]" scandal. When [[PeripheryDemographic AFOLs]] ordered additional grey parts from LEGO in 2004 because they ran out of them while building e.g. spaceship models, they discovered that LEGO had completely discontinued the old grey and replaced it with a new, more bluish tone without any announcement. New grey parts weren't compatible with older ones anymore, so if these fans wanted to continue working on their models, they would have had to replace all grey parts with bley ones--and pretty much buy their entire stock of grey parts once more in bley. This caused the biggest InternetBacklash against LEGO so far.
** The Toys/LegoTrains situation worsened even more in 2006 when the 9V railroad was replaced with the even more toyish, battery-powered RC trains. They got so much of a backlash that LEGO repeated the "Super Chief" stunt in 2008 with the "[[CoolTrain Emerald Night]]", the first LEGO train based on Power Functions, the first LEGO steamer with an actually cylindrical boiler, and the first time LEGO officially made a Pacific locomotive (the instructions in the 7777 idea book don't count), and one year later, they changed their regular train line entirely from RC to Power Functions. This also allowed for a much better version of the "[[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts Express]]" than the 9V version.
** Happened in the ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' fandom every time the characters received a redesign. Notable offenders are the Toa Inika and the Toa Nuva's "Mistika" forms. Perhaps the biggest "unacceptable" change of the franchise was when the tribal island setting of the '01-'03 lines got replaced with a futuristic mega-city, and the storyline drifted away from epic fantasy into light-science fiction territory. Unlike most other examples, almost all of these shifts were in fact planned ahead in the official UniverseBible, and hints were dropped all the way through -- however the FirstInstallmentWins, and any "change" is by default regarded as evil by casual fans who haven't been actively following the toys' and story's advancements. Some extremists even complained about changes that Franchise/{{LEGO}} had no control over, such as all the characters that had to be renamed due to legal reasons.
** Slopes. They came with the new brick design with tubes for more friction in 1958, but the early adopters agreed that slopes were completely unnecessary because LEGO had worked perfectly well without slopes before that, even if someone wanted to build something like a house roof. Having actual slopes would kill imagination and creativity.
** Wheels. No, really. LEGO introduced its first wheels in 1961, and there were people who were opposed to them for the same reason as in the case of slopes: It had worked perfectly until then with play-pretending and blue bricks (black was introduced the following year). Eventually, people came to terms with slopes and wheels and even accepted the introduction of rails in 1965.
** The introduction of themes ([[Toys/LegoCity Legoland]], Toys/LegoSpace, Toys/LegoCastle) in TheSeventies. Until then, LEGO buyers were used to getting more or less big containers full of various LEGO parts that could be used to build just about ''everything''. [[{{Hypocrisy}} Never mind that rather specialized building kits had been around for longer than the simple brick boxes.]]
** Even the Toys/LegoMinifigures in their final form with movable limbs and printed-on faces had their share of backlash because LEGO customers regarded them as LEGO becoming more (too much) like Toys/{{Playmobil}}.
** New colors weren't always universally welcomed. LEGO had started with only blue, yellow, red and white. The introduction of black in the late 60s and the introduction of grey bricks (there had been grey plates already) around 1980 were criticized for making LEGO less bright and colorful. Upon the limited introduction of the first green bricks in TheNineties, LEGO was accused of going against their principles--they had refused to produce green bricks for decades to keep kids from building tanks. And, of course, every color that came afterwards was deemed totally unnecessary because "that could have been done with the six colors available for bricks in TheEighties just as well".
** The increasing number of rather specialized parts in TheEighties. This was around the first time that (former) LEGO users had kids themselves for whom they got LEGO sets, just to discover how much LEGO had changed since their own childhood and was still changing rapidly. In particular, the introduction of five-high castle walls in Toys/LegoCastle and pre-shaped sailship hull parts for the new Toys/LegoPirates line felt to many like a shift towards Toys/{{Playmobil}}--again.
** This was also the main criticism for Toys/{{Fabuland}}: It came with too many large, "pre-made" parts like doors in frames, and an automobile could be pieced together from about half a dozen specialized parts, not to mention that the figures couldn't be modified unlike the regular Toys/LegoMinifigures. It was still LEGO, but felt like dumbed down to DUPLO levels.
** [[Toys/LegoTrains The 9V railroad from 1993]] that replaced the CultClassic "grey era" 12V system. Sure, the rails looked neater without the extra power rails in the middle, as did the wheels with their pseudo-bearings on the outside. But gone were spoked wheels and coupling rods that had made halfway believable steamers possible. Gone were remote-controlled switches. Gone were remote-controlled signals that could even cut the electricity in the rails, therefore one could no longer have more than one locomotive on the rails at the same time. Gone was the compatibility with model railroad mini banana plugs and the possibility to make your own cables. And gone were light bricks that could also be mounted ''under'' things and any easy form of interior lighting with them (building illumination had become next to impossible anyway since wiring up the town on your layout with the rather short standard 9V cables would have been way too tedious and expensive).
** Increasingly toyish trains that looked rather like futuristic monorails with not even the most remote resemblance to real trains. LEGO reacted upon the fan criticism for once--and gave their fans the "[[CoolTrain Super Chief]]", one of the first official LEGO sets that weren't intended for kids.
** The "[[FanNickname Bley]]" scandal. When [[PeripheryDemographic AFOLs]] ordered additional grey parts from LEGO in 2004 because they ran out of them while building e.g. spaceship models, they discovered that LEGO had completely discontinued the old grey and replaced it with a new, more bluish tone without any announcement. New grey parts weren't compatible with older ones anymore, so if these fans wanted to continue working on their models, they would have had to replace all grey parts with bley ones--and pretty much buy their entire stock of grey parts once more in bley. This caused the biggest InternetBacklash against LEGO so far.
** The Toys/LegoTrains situation worsened even more in 2006 when the 9V railroad was replaced with the even more toyish, battery-powered RC trains. They got so much of a backlash that LEGO repeated the "Super Chief" stunt in 2008 with the "[[CoolTrain Emerald Night]]", the first LEGO train based on Power Functions, the first LEGO steamer with an actually cylindrical boiler, and the first time LEGO officially made a Pacific locomotive (the instructions in the 7777 idea book don't count), and one year later, they changed their regular train line entirely from RC to Power Functions. This also allowed for a much better version of the "[[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts Express]]" than the 9V version.
** Happened in the ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' fandom every time the characters received a redesign. Notable offenders are the Toa Inika and the Toa Nuva's "Mistika" forms. Perhaps the biggest "unacceptable" change of the franchise was when the tribal island setting of the '01-'03 lines got replaced with a futuristic mega-city, and the storyline drifted away from epic fantasy into light-science fiction territory. Unlike most other examples, almost all of these shifts were in fact planned ahead in the official UniverseBible, and hints were dropped all the way through -- however the FirstInstallmentWins, and any "change" is by default regarded as evil by casual fans who haven't been actively following the toys' and story's advancements. Some extremists even complained about changes that Franchise/{{LEGO}} had no control over, such as all the characters that had to be renamed due to legal reasons.
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** Although the drastic toy design overhaul of ''Toys/HeroFactory'' was very welcomed, the ''BIONICLE'' reboot using the same construction style (which LEGO claims is here to stay) was met with a more mixed reaction. The aforementioned [=BZPower=] and other fansites were, however, this time more accepting of it.
* Surprisingly heavy fan-backlash happened when, concurrently with the '04 story shift, LEGO introduced the infamous "blay" color, gray colored pieces with a somewhat bluish tint, just about entirely replacing the earlier normal dark-gray color.
* Surprisingly heavy fan-backlash happened when, concurrently with the '04 story shift, LEGO introduced the infamous "blay" color, gray colored pieces with a somewhat bluish tint, just about entirely replacing the earlier normal dark-gray color.
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** The two most common gripes: The G2's (a set created in the late 90's into early 00's) were too petite and skinny, in a day and age when Bratz were gaining popularity against Barbie. This complaint is sometimes levied against the G4's (Friendship is Magic) toys as well. Apparently, women are concerned that their girls are developing an unrealistic body image for horses. The other gripe centers around the 'collect them all' mentality of the G1's and G3's, in which each season saw a release of four to six (or more) brand new ponies with different appearances and poses. Original fans have collections that easily number into the hundreds, with each toy having a unique name and appearance. With the G4's, once you've collected the "Mane Six" (assuming you are looking for toys with hair that can be combed and styled), you're pretty much finished.
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** The two most common gripes: The G2's (a set created in the late 90's into early 00's) were too petite and skinny, in a day and age when Bratz were gaining popularity against Barbie. This complaint is sometimes levied against the G4's (Friendship (''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Friendship is Magic) Magic]]'') toys as well. Apparently, women are concerned that their girls are developing an unrealistic body image for horses. The other gripe centers around the 'collect them all' mentality of the G1's and G3's, in which each season saw a release of four to six (or more) brand new ponies with different appearances and poses. Original fans have collections that easily number into the hundreds, with each toy having a unique name and appearance. With the G4's, once you've collected the "Mane Six" (assuming you are looking for toys with hair that can be combed and styled), you're pretty much finished.
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* Many toys were that were handmade or [[WeWillUseManualLaborInTheFuture assembled with manual labor]]. Management may change to automation, cut corners, change suppliers or subcontractors. Cue the fan reaction.
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* Many toys were that were handmade or [[WeWillUseManualLaborInTheFuture assembled with manual labor]]. Management may change to automation, cut corners, change suppliers or subcontractors. Cue the fan reaction.
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* Quite a few people don't like how Polly Pockets don't exactly live up to their name anymore.
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* Beyblades, specifically the Engine Gear system. But not looking into its parts separately.
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* Beyblades, TabletopGame/{{Beyblade}}s, specifically the Engine Gear system. But not looking into its parts separately.
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* {{Franchise/Transformers}} is no stranger to this trope:
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* When Mr. Potato Head went from being metallic pieces you pierced into actual potatoes to an all-plastic head. Sure, it was safer (and didn't waste food), but purists argued that you couldn't use things other than potatoes, and the places you could stick the pieces into were pre-determined, thus stunting a child's creativity.
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* When Mr. Potato Head Toys/MrPotatoHead went from being metallic pieces you pierced into actual potatoes to an all-plastic head. Sure, it was safer (and didn't waste food), but purists argued that you couldn't use things other than potatoes, and the places you could stick the pieces into were pre-determined, thus stunting a child's creativity.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'', which each received a single figure. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'', which each received a single figure. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''.''Film/XMenTheLastStand'', Creator/SamRaimi's ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' being the subject of its own wave, and Target stores getting an exclusive ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'' figure. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** The decrease in the size of the Build-A-Figures is another frequent criticism. [=ToyBiz=] instituted the Build-A-Figure concept with the idea that fans would be willing to buy an entire wave of toys so they could complete a larger figure that would normally be too expensive to release on its own. These included massive characters like the Sentinel and [[Comicbook/AntMan Giant-Man]]. Under Hasbro, the size of the Build-A-Figures gradually began to decrease, hitting a breaking point in 2013 when minuscule characters like [[Comicbook/AlphaFlight Puck]], [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Racoon]] and Hit-Monkey were featured. While Hasbro has since returned to doing larger Build-A-Figures (like the Hulkbuster from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and Giant-Man from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''), they'll still occasionally release one that is essentially the same size as one of their single releases, like Mantis from the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' wave and Okoye from the ''Film/BlackPanther'' wave.
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** The decrease in the size of the Build-A-Figures is another frequent criticism. [=ToyBiz=] instituted the Build-A-Figure concept with the idea that fans would be willing to buy an entire wave of toys so they could complete a larger figure that would normally be too expensive to release on its own. These included massive characters like the Sentinel and [[Comicbook/AntMan Giant-Man]]. Under Hasbro, the size of the Build-A-Figures gradually began to decrease, hitting a breaking point in 2013 when minuscule characters like [[Comicbook/AlphaFlight Puck]], [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Racoon]] and Hit-Monkey were featured. While Hasbro has since returned to doing larger Build-A-Figures (like the Hulkbuster from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and Giant-Man from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''), they'll still occasionally release one that is essentially the same size as one of their single releases, like Mantis from the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' wave and Okoye from the ''Film/BlackPanther'' wave.''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}'' wave.
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** The decrease in the size of the Build-A-Figures is another frequent criticism. [=ToyBiz=] instituted the Build-A-Figure concept with the idea that fans would be willing to buy an entire wave of figures so they could complete a larger figure that would normally be too expensive to release on its own. These included massive characters like the Sentinel and [[Comicbook/AntMan Giant-Man]]. Under Hasbro, the size of the Build-A-Figures gradually began to decrease, hitting a breaking point in 2013 when minuscule characters like [[Comicbook/AlphaFlight Puck]], [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Racoon]] and Hit-Monkey were featured. While Hasbro has since returned to doing larger Build-A-Figures (like the Hulkbuster from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and Giant-Man from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''), they'll still occasionally release one that is essentially the same size as one of their single releases, like Mantis from the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' wave and Okoye from the ''Film/BlackPanther'' wave.
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** The decrease in the size of the Build-A-Figures is another frequent criticism. [=ToyBiz=] instituted the Build-A-Figure concept with the idea that fans would be willing to buy an entire wave of figures toys so they could complete a larger figure that would normally be too expensive to release on its own. These included massive characters like the Sentinel and [[Comicbook/AntMan Giant-Man]]. Under Hasbro, the size of the Build-A-Figures gradually began to decrease, hitting a breaking point in 2013 when minuscule characters like [[Comicbook/AlphaFlight Puck]], [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Racoon]] and Hit-Monkey were featured. While Hasbro has since returned to doing larger Build-A-Figures (like the Hulkbuster from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and Giant-Man from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''), they'll still occasionally release one that is essentially the same size as one of their single releases, like Mantis from the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' wave and Okoye from the ''Film/BlackPanther'' wave.
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** The decrease in the size of the Build-A-Figures is another frequent criticism. [=ToyBiz=] instituted the Build-A-Figure concept with the idea that fans would be willing to buy an entire wave of figures so they could complete a larger character who would normally be too expensive to release on its own. These included massive characters like the Sentinel and [[Comicbook/AntMan Giant-Man]]. Under Hasbro, the size of the Build-A-Figures gradually began to decrease, hitting a breaking point in 2013 when minuscule characters like [[Comicbook/AlphaFlight Puck]], [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Racoon]] and Hit-Monkey were featured. While Hasbro has since returned to doing larger Build-A-Figures (like the Hulkbuster from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and Giant-Man from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''), they'll still occasionally release one that is essentially the same size as one of their single releases, like Mantis from the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' wave and Okoye from the ''Film/BlackPanther'' wave.
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** The decrease in the size of the Build-A-Figures is another frequent criticism. [=ToyBiz=] instituted the Build-A-Figure concept with the idea that fans would be willing to buy an entire wave of figures so they could complete a larger character who figure that would normally be too expensive to release on its own. These included massive characters like the Sentinel and [[Comicbook/AntMan Giant-Man]]. Under Hasbro, the size of the Build-A-Figures gradually began to decrease, hitting a breaking point in 2013 when minuscule characters like [[Comicbook/AlphaFlight Puck]], [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Racoon]] and Hit-Monkey were featured. While Hasbro has since returned to doing larger Build-A-Figures (like the Hulkbuster from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and Giant-Man from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''), they'll still occasionally release one that is essentially the same size as one of their single releases, like Mantis from the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' wave and Okoye from the ''Film/BlackPanther'' wave.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'', who each received a single figure. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'', who which each received a single figure. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'', who each received a single figure. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'', who each received a single figure. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'' each getting a single figure each. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'' ''Film/ThePunisher2004'', who each getting received a single figure each.figure. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
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** Another major complaint was the perceived downturn in quality once the line transferred to Hasbro, with most of the early Hasbro figures having less articulation and paint application than their [=ToyBiz=] predecessors. While Hasbro thankfully increased the articulation and quality when the line returned from hiatus in 2012, there are still many fans who feel thingers were better under [=ToyBiz=]. This is exasperated by Hasbro's habit of reusing parts ([[PaletteSwap and in some cases, entire bodies]]), which some critics have compared to kitbashing.
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** Another major complaint was the perceived downturn in quality once the line transferred to Hasbro, with most of the early Hasbro figures having less articulation and paint application than their [=ToyBiz=] predecessors. While Hasbro thankfully increased the articulation and quality when the line returned from hiatus in 2012, there are still many fans who feel thingers things were better under [=ToyBiz=]. This is exasperated by Hasbro's habit of reusing parts ([[PaletteSwap and in some cases, entire bodies]]), which some critics have compared to kitbashing.
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** Another major complaint was the perceived downturn in quality once the line transferred to Hasbro, with most of the early Hasbro figures having less articulation and paint application than their [=ToyBiz=] predecessors. While Hasbro thankfully increased the articulation when the line returned from hiatus in 2012, there are still many fans who feel the level of quality still isn't the same as it was under [=ToyBiz=]. This is exasperated by Hasbro's habit of reusing parts ([[PaletteSwap and in some cases, entire bodies]]), which some critics have compared to kitbashing.
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** Another major complaint was the perceived downturn in quality once the line transferred to Hasbro, with most of the early Hasbro figures having less articulation and paint application than their [=ToyBiz=] predecessors. While Hasbro thankfully increased the articulation and quality when the line returned from hiatus in 2012, there are still many fans who feel the level of quality still isn't the same as it was thingers were better under [=ToyBiz=]. This is exasperated by Hasbro's habit of reusing parts ([[PaletteSwap and in some cases, entire bodies]]), which some critics have compared to kitbashing.
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** Under [=ToyBiz=], the Marvel Legends line generally eschewed movie figures, with the sole exceptions being ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', ''Film/{{Blade II}}'' and ''Film/ThePunisher2004'' each getting a single figure each. This immediately changed when Creator/{{Hasbro}} took over the line, with their first three waves including figures from ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Following the line's return from hiatus, Hasbro began doing movie-themed Marvel Legends waves, beginning with ''Film/IronMan3'' in 2013 and continuing to this very day. While this move proved to be a highly successful one (since the popularity of the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] helped renew interest in the line), a number of longtime collectors disliked it, as they preferred [=ToyBiz=]'s strategy of keeping the comic and movie figures separate.
** Another major complaint was the perceived downturn in quality once the line transferred to Hasbro, with most of the early Hasbro figures having less articulation and paint application than their [=ToyBiz=] predecessors. While Hasbro thankfully increased the articulation when the line returned from hiatus in 2012, there are still many fans who feel the level of quality still isn't the same as it was under [=ToyBiz=]. This is exasperated by Hasbro's habit of reusing parts ([[PaletteSwap and in some cases, entire bodies]]), which some critics have compared to kitbashing.
** The decrease in the size of the Build-A-Figures is another frequent criticism. [=ToyBiz=] instituted the Build-A-Figure concept with the idea that fans would be willing to buy an entire wave of figures so they could complete a larger character who would normally be too expensive to release on its own. These included massive characters like the Sentinel and [[Comicbook/AntMan Giant-Man]]. Under Hasbro, the size of the Build-A-Figures gradually began to decrease, hitting a breaking point in 2013 when minuscule characters like [[Comicbook/AlphaFlight Puck]], [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Racoon]] and Hit-Monkey were featured. While Hasbro has since returned to doing larger Build-A-Figures (like the Hulkbuster from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and Giant-Man from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''), they'll still occasionally release one that is essentially the same size as one of their single releases, like Mantis from the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' wave and Okoye from the ''Film/BlackPanther'' wave.
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* Adult [[WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine Thomas]] Wooden Railway fans and collectors have not taken kindly to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LC6CGH2DQ the "Thomas Wood" range]] that will be replacing the former range in 2018, namely the compacted models of bigger engines, how certain parts of engines will remain unpainted, and a new track system that will be incompaitable with track from Thomas Wooden Railway and other third-party brands (though adapters will be included for a short time).
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* Adult [[WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine Thomas]] Wooden Railway fans and collectors have not taken kindly to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LC6CGH2DQ the "Thomas Wood" range]] range that will be replacing replaced the former range in 2018, late 2017, namely the compacted models of bigger engines, how certain parts of engines will remain remained unpainted, and a new track system that will be incompaitable is incompatible with track from Thomas Wooden Railway and other third-party brands (though adapters will be were included for a short time).time). If the reviews on the Toys R Us website are anything to go by, parents who purchased them for their children have not taken kindly to them, either.
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--> '''Greg Farshtey''': This is BZPower, and all new sets are greeted with a barrage of criticism. It's tradition.
** Although the drastic toy design overhaul of ''Toys/HeroFactory'' was very welcomed, the ''BIONICLE'' reboot using the same construction style (which LEGO claims is here to stay) was met with a more mixed reaction. The aforementioned BZPower and other fansites were, however, this time more accepting of it.
** Although the drastic toy design overhaul of ''Toys/HeroFactory'' was very welcomed, the ''BIONICLE'' reboot using the same construction style (which LEGO claims is here to stay) was met with a more mixed reaction. The aforementioned BZPower and other fansites were, however, this time more accepting of it.
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--> '''Greg Farshtey''': This is BZPower, Website/BZPower, and all new sets are greeted with a barrage of criticism. It's tradition.
** Although the drastic toy design overhaul of ''Toys/HeroFactory'' was very welcomed, the ''BIONICLE'' reboot using the same construction style (which LEGO claims is here to stay) was met with a more mixed reaction. The aforementionedBZPower [=BZPower=] and other fansites were, however, this time more accepting of it.
** Although the drastic toy design overhaul of ''Toys/HeroFactory'' was very welcomed, the ''BIONICLE'' reboot using the same construction style (which LEGO claims is here to stay) was met with a more mixed reaction. The aforementioned
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* The 2002 revival of ''Franchise/GIJoe'' action figures got considerable backlash for removing the "O-ring"[[note]]A black rubber-band ring that connects the upper body of a G.I. Joe figure to the lower waist area.[[/note]] and replacing it with a "T-bar", limiting the figures' familiar articulation.
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* The 2002 revival of ''Franchise/GIJoe'' action figures got considerable backlash for removing the "O-ring"[[note]]A black rubber-band ring that connects the upper body of a G.I. Joe figure to the lower waist area.[[/note]] and replacing it with a "T-bar", limiting the figures' familiar articulation. The figures from 2007 onward feature new engineering that still replaces the O-ring but retains the articulation of the original line, though there are still complaints with this line[[note]]The 2007-onward figures aren't ''fully'' compatible with the classic line, as the figures are slightly taller; the change in torso articulation moved the backpack post hole (what used to be the screw hole) up, making vintage backpacks unusable without extensive modification; the post holes in the feet are smaller, making them incompatible with vintage vehicles and playsets that utilize the older, wider posts; and, of course, there's Hasbro's decision to limit certain characters to very expensive collector's club or convention exclusives[[/note]].
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* Adult [[WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine Thomas]] Wooden Railway fans and collectors have not taken kindly to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LC6CGH2DQ the "Thomas Wood" range]] that will be replacing the former range in 2018, namely the compacted models of bigger engines, how certain parts of engines will remain unpainted, and a new track system that will be incompaitable with track from Thomas Wooden Railway and other third-party brands (though adapters will be included for a short time).
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** The two most common gripes: The G2's (a set created in the late 90's into early 00's) were too petite and skinny, in a day and age when Bratz were gaining popularity against Barbie. This complaint is sometimes levied against the G4's (Friendship is Magic) toys as well. Apparently, women are concerned that their girls are developing an unrealistic body image for horses. The other gripe centers around the 'collect them all' mentality of the G1's and G3's, in which each season saw a release of four to six (or more) brand new ponies with different appearances and poses. Original fans have collections that easily number into the hundreds, with each toy having a unique name and appearance. With the G4's, once you've collected the "Mane Six" (assuming you are looking for toys with hair that can be combed and styled), you're pretty much finished.
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** Although the drastic toy design overhaul of ''Franchise/HeroFactory'' was very welcomed, the ''BIONICLE'' reboot using the same construction style (which LEGO claims is here to stay) was met with a more mixed reaction. The aforementioned BZPower and other fansites were, however, this time more accepting of it.
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** Although the drastic toy design overhaul of ''Franchise/HeroFactory'' ''Toys/HeroFactory'' was very welcomed, the ''BIONICLE'' reboot using the same construction style (which LEGO claims is here to stay) was met with a more mixed reaction. The aforementioned BZPower and other fansites were, however, this time more accepting of it.
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* Many toys were that were handmade or [[WeWillUseManualLaborInTheFuture assembled with manual labor]]. Management may change to automation, [[TheyJustDidntCare cut corners]], change suppliers or subcontractors. Cue the fan reaction.
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* Many toys were that were handmade or [[WeWillUseManualLaborInTheFuture assembled with manual labor]]. Management may change to automation, [[TheyJustDidntCare cut corners]], corners, change suppliers or subcontractors. Cue the fan reaction.
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* Happened in the ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' fandom every time the characters received a redesign. Notable offenders are the Toa Inika and the Toa Nuva's "Mistika" forms. Perhaps the biggest "unacceptable" change of the franchise was when the tribal island setting of the '01-'03 lines got replaced with a futuristic mega-city, and the storyline drifted away from epic fantasy into light-science fiction territory. Unlike most other examples, almost all of these shifts were in fact planned ahead in the official UniverseBible, and hints were dropped all the way through -- however the FirstInstallmentWins, and any "change" is by default regarded as evil by casual fans who haven't been actively following the toys' and story's advancements. Some extremists even complained about changes that Franchise/{{LEGO}} had no control over, such as all the characters that had to be renamed due to legal reasons.
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* Happened in the ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' fandom every time the characters received a redesign. Notable offenders are the Toa Inika and the Toa Nuva's "Mistika" forms. Perhaps the biggest "unacceptable" change of the franchise was when the tribal island setting of the '01-'03 lines got replaced with a futuristic mega-city, and the storyline drifted away from epic fantasy into light-science fiction territory. Unlike most other examples, almost all of these shifts were in fact planned ahead in the official UniverseBible, and hints were dropped all the way through -- however the FirstInstallmentWins, and any "change" is by default regarded as evil by casual fans who haven't been actively following the toys' and story's advancements. Some extremists even complained about changes that Franchise/{{LEGO}} had no control over, such as all the characters that had to be renamed due to legal reasons.
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** This sort of thing is so commonplace that the Transformers wiki has a page titled [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER "Ruined FOREVER"] which catalogues all of the changes to the franchise which were met by overblown outrage. There's one from pretty much every major toyline, going all the way back to the original "Generation 1" era toys.
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** This sort of thing is so commonplace that the Transformers wiki has a page titled [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER "Ruined FOREVER"] FOREVER"]] which catalogues all of the changes to the franchise which were met by overblown outrage. There's one from pretty much every major toyline, going all the way back to the original "Generation 1" era toys.
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** This sort of thing is so commonplace that the Transformers wiki has a page titled [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER "Ruined FOREVER"] which catalogues all of the changes to the franchise which were met by overblown outrage. There's one from pretty much every major toyline, going all the way back to the original "Generation 1" era toys.
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** Due to the loss of Trademark, certain names had to be changed: Bombshell became Hardshell, Octane became Tankor, Shrapnel became Sharpshot/Skrapnel, etc. At best the fans just accept it as something that cannot be avoided, but few people actually like the new names.
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** Due to the loss of Trademark, certain names had to be changed: Bombshell became Hardshell, Octane became Tankor, Shrapnel became Sharpshot/Skrapnel, etc. At best the fans just accept it as something that cannot be avoided, but few people actually like the new names. It's telling that even most fiction tends to stick with the original names.
