History Theatre / MissSaigon

16th Dec '16 4:36:55 PM Evighet
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** In fact he seems to honestly wish for Kim to shoot him once she takes out the gun. As if he cannot stand to live with the pain of knowing she still loves Chris and has borne his son, the shame Tam would bring to their union and/or the knowledge that she will hate him forever if he kills Tam (nor the dishonor and shame of ''failing'' to kill the boy). He begs her to shoot him, presses the gun to his own temple and when he goes after Tam it almost seems like he's intentionally provoking her into shooting.
9th Dec '16 3:58:46 AM Evighet
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** Arguably Kim as well, who doesn't try and fight Ellen for Chris' love. Granted [[spoiler:her main priority became ensuring Tam's future, but still.]]
27th Oct '16 9:47:27 AM annieholmes
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** Helps that his name (like much of Vietnamese names, and indeed every Vietnamese name in this show) is unisex.
8th Oct '16 8:33:56 AM StarSword
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* AbandonedWarChild: Kim and Chris fall in love when Chris is a Marine stationed in Saigon during the Vietnam War. Chris intends to take Kim back home with him, but is forced to leave her behind when the US forces are evacuated, leaving Kim to raise her son as a single mother.
24th Sep '16 12:43:57 PM DrOO7
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Along with ''Madame Butterfly'', the producers were inspired by a picture of a Vietnamese woman taking her daughter to the airport to put her on a plane bound for the US, where she would meet her father, an American GI she had never met before--and would never see her mother again.
23rd Sep '16 5:39:32 PM DrOO7
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* UnbalancedByRivalsKid: Ellen regarding Tam.

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* UnbalancedByRivalsKid: Ellen and Thuy, separately, regarding Tam.
22nd Sep '16 6:37:18 PM DrOO7
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* AlasPoorVillain: In the revival, the actor playing Thuy manages to infuse him with enough humanity that one can think this--he seems to genuinely love Kim and be heartbroken when she rebuffs him, and his attempt to kill Tam appears to be out of obligation rather than genuine hatred. He wasn't born a monster, he was made into one.



* AntiVillain: The Engineer. Sure, the antagonist role is filled more by Thuy, but he dies during the first act. Nonetheless, the Engineer is a scoundrel, but you can't help but like him. He's clearly an entrepreneur -- someone who would be a ''lot'' more comfortable in America than Vietnam. Furthermore, it appears that he's just as desperate to escape the poverty and violence of Vietnam as the girls he pimps out--it's implied that he's had a hard life due to his biracial heritage. His methods may be greedy and self-serving, but given his motives, it's hard to hate him completely. And he even manages to have a few PetTheDog moments--in some versions of the ending, he's holding Tam [[spoiler: as the fatal gunshot rings out and instantly dives to protect him, then just as quickly shields him from seeing his mother's body]]

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* AntiVillain: The Engineer. Sure, the antagonist role is filled more by Thuy, but he dies during the first act. Nonetheless, the Engineer is a scoundrel, but you can't help but like him. He's clearly an entrepreneur -- someone who would be a ''lot'' more comfortable in America than Vietnam. Furthermore, it appears that he's just as desperate to escape the poverty and violence of Vietnam as the girls he pimps out--it's implied that he's had a hard life due to his biracial heritage. His methods may be greedy and self-serving, but given his motives, it's hard to hate him completely. And he even manages to have a few PetTheDog moments--in some versions of the ending, he's holding Tam [[spoiler: as the fatal gunshot rings out and instantly dives to protect him, then just as quickly shields him from seeing his mother's body]]


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* DarkerAndEdgier: The revival, to an ''already'' gritty show. The language and behavior of everybody, particularly during the bar scene, is far coarser and harsher than in the original show.


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* WouldHitAGirl: The Engineer, John, and several of the other [=GIs=] all slap several of the girls during the bar scene. Later, Thuy allows his soldiers to beat Kim.
7th Jul '16 10:46:49 PM Pamina
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** Thuy also. His counterpart in the original disowns Butterfly and condemns her for her actions, but he disappears after the first act. Thuy resurfaces and ''tries to kill'' Tam.

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** Thuy also. His counterpart He has [[CompositeCharacter two counterparts]] in the original original: Butterfly's uncle who disowns Butterfly her and condemns her for her actions, but he disappears after the first act. act, and her wealthy suitor Yamadori, who calmly goes away after she rejects his marriage proposal. Thuy resurfaces and ''tries to kill'' Tam.Tam!
8th May '16 4:25:10 PM DrOO7
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* MistakenForServant: Ellen assumes Kim is the maid when she shows up at the hotel room.


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* UnbalancedByRivalsKid: Ellen regarding Tam.
29th Apr '16 9:04:08 PM DrOO7
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* SexForSolace: [[spoiler: Chris grabs his wife Ellen and kisses her passionately, having just awakened from a nightmare about his lost love Kim. It's not hard to imagine that he's trying to invoke this trope.]]
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