History Theatre / MissSaigon

4th Apr '17 9:58:16 AM LessTalkMoreWatch
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** Jon Jon Briones, who played The Engineer in the West End Revival and plays him in the 2017 Broadway Revival, was initially a chorus member in the original West End and Broadway productions.
1st Apr '17 8:21:59 PM DrOO7
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* HoYay: During the "What A Waste" scene, one of the scantily-clad, gyrating prostitutes is a ''man''. Additionally, the Mormon missionary who spends the entire song acting disgusted at the Engineer's attempt to procure him a girl finally gives in when the Engineer offers ''himself'' up.



** Towards the end of the show's Broadway run, the role of Ellen, typically played by a white actress (specifically, a blonde or redhead) was cast with Margaret Ann Gates, who is Asian, resulting in a likely example of the ReplacementGoldfish trope--it now seemed as though Chris married Ellen only because she reminded him of Kim, rather than to move on with his life.

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** Towards the end of the show's first Broadway run, the role of Ellen, typically played by a white actress (specifically, a blonde or redhead) was cast with Margaret Ann Gates, who is Asian, resulting in a likely example of the ReplacementGoldfish trope--it now seemed as though Chris married Ellen only because she reminded him of Kim, rather than to move on with his life.


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** At the end of the "American Dream" number, the Engineer begs the dancers to come back, saying, "We can make it great again!"


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* TakeThat: At the end of the "American Dream" number, the Engineer begs the dancers to come back, saying, [[UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump "We can make it great again!"]]
18th Feb '17 12:26:48 PM masterofthehouse
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* ShoutOut: In the revival, one of the tourists that the Engineer greets during "What a Waste" is a [[Theatre/TheBookOfMormon gay Mormon missionary]].
16th Dec '16 4:36:55 PM Evighet
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** In fact he seems to honestly wish for Kim to shoot him once she takes out the gun. As if he cannot stand to live with the pain of knowing she still loves Chris and has borne his son, the shame Tam would bring to their union and/or the knowledge that she will hate him forever if he kills Tam (nor the dishonor and shame of ''failing'' to kill the boy). He begs her to shoot him, presses the gun to his own temple and when he goes after Tam it almost seems like he's intentionally provoking her into shooting.
9th Dec '16 3:58:46 AM Evighet
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** Arguably Kim as well, who doesn't try and fight Ellen for Chris' love. Granted [[spoiler:her main priority became ensuring Tam's future, but still.]]
27th Oct '16 9:47:27 AM annieholmes
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** Helps that his name (like much of Vietnamese names, and indeed every Vietnamese name in this show) is unisex.
8th Oct '16 8:33:56 AM StarSword
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* AbandonedWarChild: Kim and Chris fall in love when Chris is a Marine stationed in Saigon during the Vietnam War. Chris intends to take Kim back home with him, but is forced to leave her behind when the US forces are evacuated, leaving Kim to raise her son as a single mother.
24th Sep '16 12:43:57 PM DrOO7
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Along with ''Madame Butterfly'', the producers were inspired by a picture of a Vietnamese woman taking her daughter to the airport to put her on a plane bound for the US, where she would meet her father, an American GI she had never met before--and would never see her mother again.
23rd Sep '16 5:39:32 PM DrOO7
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* UnbalancedByRivalsKid: Ellen regarding Tam.

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* UnbalancedByRivalsKid: Ellen and Thuy, separately, regarding Tam.
22nd Sep '16 6:37:18 PM DrOO7
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* AlasPoorVillain: In the revival, the actor playing Thuy manages to infuse him with enough humanity that one can think this--he seems to genuinely love Kim and be heartbroken when she rebuffs him, and his attempt to kill Tam appears to be out of obligation rather than genuine hatred. He wasn't born a monster, he was made into one.



* AntiVillain: The Engineer. Sure, the antagonist role is filled more by Thuy, but he dies during the first act. Nonetheless, the Engineer is a scoundrel, but you can't help but like him. He's clearly an entrepreneur -- someone who would be a ''lot'' more comfortable in America than Vietnam. Furthermore, it appears that he's just as desperate to escape the poverty and violence of Vietnam as the girls he pimps out--it's implied that he's had a hard life due to his biracial heritage. His methods may be greedy and self-serving, but given his motives, it's hard to hate him completely. And he even manages to have a few PetTheDog moments--in some versions of the ending, he's holding Tam [[spoiler: as the fatal gunshot rings out and instantly dives to protect him, then just as quickly shields him from seeing his mother's body]]

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* AntiVillain: The Engineer. Sure, the antagonist role is filled more by Thuy, but he dies during the first act. Nonetheless, the Engineer is a scoundrel, but you can't help but like him. He's clearly an entrepreneur -- someone who would be a ''lot'' more comfortable in America than Vietnam. Furthermore, it appears that he's just as desperate to escape the poverty and violence of Vietnam as the girls he pimps out--it's implied that he's had a hard life due to his biracial heritage. His methods may be greedy and self-serving, but given his motives, it's hard to hate him completely. And he even manages to have a few PetTheDog moments--in some versions of the ending, he's holding Tam [[spoiler: as the fatal gunshot rings out and instantly dives to protect him, then just as quickly shields him from seeing his mother's body]]


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* DarkerAndEdgier: The revival, to an ''already'' gritty show. The language and behavior of everybody, particularly during the bar scene, is far coarser and harsher than in the original show.


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* WouldHitAGirl: The Engineer, John, and several of the other [=GIs=] all slap several of the girls during the bar scene. Later, Thuy allows his soldiers to beat Kim.
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