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* SmallStartBigFinish: "You'll Never Walk Alone". Nettie is comforting Julie at the beginning so naturally sings softly, but she hits bigger and longer notes as the song progresses.
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* TheSoprano: Julie Jordan and Carrie Pipperidge.
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* JerkassFacade: Billy Bigelow.
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A remake of the movie has been planned, with Creator/HughJackman as the lead role of Billy.

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* AdaptationalAlternateEnding: ''Liliom'' originally ended on a downer with [[spoiler:Liliom failing to help his daughter and going to hell once he strikes her]]. This was revised in ''Carousel'' so that Billy [[spoiler:sticks around afterwards and succeeds in his mission]]. Molnar actually liked the newer ending.



* RevisedEnding: ''Liliom'' originally ended on a downer with [[spoiler:Liliom failing to help his daughter and going to hell once he strikes her]]. This was revised in ''Carousel'' so that Billy [[spoiler:sticks around afterwards and succeeds in his mission]]. Molnar actually liked the newer ending.
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->''"Walk on through the wind, walk on through the rain,''
->''Though your dreams be tossed and blown.''
->''Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,''
->''And you'll never walk alone!"''

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''Though
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''And
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* YouAreNotAlone: [[TearJerker "You'll Never Walk Alone."]]

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* YouAreNotAlone: [[TearJerker "You'll Never Walk Alone."]]"
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A 1945 musical adaptation of Hungarian playwright Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was Creator/RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''Theatre/{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).

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A 1945 musical adaptation of Hungarian playwright Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Film/{{Liliom}}'', ''Carousel'' was Creator/RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''Theatre/{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).
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* RaceLift: In the 2017 Broadway revival, Billy is played by black actor Joshua Henry.
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->''Walk on through the wind, walk on through the rain,''

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->''And you'll never walk alone!''

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->''And you'll never walk alone!''
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* TheSoprano: Julie Jordan

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* TheSoprano: Julie JordanJordan and Carrie Pipperidge.
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A 1945 musical adaptation of Hungarian playwright Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''Theatre/{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).

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A 1945 musical adaptation of Hungarian playwright Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's Creator/RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''Theatre/{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).
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* FourthDateMarriage: Billy and Julie meet in May and are already married in June.
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* PosthumousNarration: Billy tells the story of his life with Julie while in heaven.

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* PosthumousNarration: In the film, Billy tells the story of his life with Julie while in heaven.
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A 1945 musical adaptation of Hungarian playwright Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).

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A 1945 musical adaptation of Hungarian playwright Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''{{Oklahoma}}''.''Theatre/{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).
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* AlliterativeName: Billy Biggelow and Julie Jordan.

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* AlliterativeName: Billy Biggelow Bigelow and Julie Jordan.



* DarkReprise: "If I loved you." First sung by the leads as they ponder a life together; Billy sings it as a ghost as he [[GriefSong mourns his wasting his opportunity to spit out his feelings for Julie.]]

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* DarkReprise: "If I loved you.Loved You." First sung by the leads as they ponder a life together; Billy sings it as a ghost as he [[GriefSong mourns his wasting his opportunity to spit out his feelings for Julie.]]



* DoesNotLikeShoes: Louise, Billy Bigelow's daughter

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* DoesNotLikeShoes: Louise, Billy Bigelow's daughterLouise.



* IrrelevantActOpener: "A real nice clambake."
* JerkassFacade: Billy Bigelow

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* IrrelevantActOpener: "A real nice clambake.Real Nice Clambake."
* JerkassFacade: Billy BigelowBigelow.



* MoodWhiplash: The bench scene is a beautiful love song where the couple falls for each other. In the next scene, they're already having some serious marital problems.
* MusicalisInterruptus: Julie tries singing "You'll never walk alone," but breaks down crying after a few bars. Nettie and the other townfolks take over.

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* MoodWhiplash: The bench scene is a beautiful love song where the couple falls for each other. In the next scene, a month later, they're already having some serious marital problems.
* MusicalisInterruptus: Julie tries singing "You'll never walk alone," Never Walk Alone," but breaks down crying after a few bars. Nettie and the other townfolks take over.



* OpeningBallet: The Carousel Waltz.

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* OpeningBallet: The "The Carousel Waltz."



* RevisedEnding: ''Liliom'' originally ended on a downer with [[spoiler:Liliom failing to help his daughter and going to hell once he strikes her.]] This was revised in Carousel so that Billy [[spoiler:sticks around afterwards and succeeds in his mission.]] Molnar actually liked the newer ending.

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* RevisedEnding: ''Liliom'' originally ended on a downer with [[spoiler:Liliom failing to help his daughter and going to hell once he strikes her.]] her]]. This was revised in Carousel ''Carousel'' so that Billy [[spoiler:sticks around afterwards and succeeds in his mission.]] mission]]. Molnar actually liked the newer ending.



* YouAreNotAlone: [[TearJerker You'll never walk alone.]]

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* YouAreNotAlone: [[TearJerker You'll never walk alone.]]"You'll Never Walk Alone."]]

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* TheOtherMarty: FrankSinatra was cast as Billy Bigelow in the film version, but left production a few weeks in rather than shoot each scene twice (once on 35mm, another on 55mm). A few weeks after Gordon Macrae came on board, [[ShaggyDogStory they discovered a conversion process between the formats.]]
* PlayingGertrude: Shirley Jones, age 22, was only eight years older than her onscreen daughter.

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* TheOtherMarty: FrankSinatra was cast as Billy Bigelow in the film version, but left production a few weeks in rather than shoot each scene twice (once on 35mm, another on 55mm). A few weeks after Gordon Macrae came on board, [[ShaggyDogStory they discovered a conversion process between the formats.]]
* PlayingGertrude: Shirley Jones, age 22, was only eight four years older than her onscreen daughter.
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* PlayingGertrude: Shirley Jones, age 22, was only eight years older than her onscreen daughter Bambi Linn (who played the dream version of the former a year earlier in Oklahoma).

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* PlayingGertrude: Shirley Jones, age 22, was only eight years older than her onscreen daughter Bambi Linn (who played the dream version of the former a year earlier in Oklahoma).daughter.
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A remake of the movie has been planned, with HughJackman as the lead role of Billy.

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* SettingUpdate: Subverted. ''Lilom'' was set in Budapest around the time it was written (1909). ''Carousel'' brings it closer to the writers in place (Maine), but further away in time (1873, then 1888).
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A 1945 musical adaptation of Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).

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A 1945 musical adaptation of Hungarian playwright Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).
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* HollywoodOld: Julie and, to a lesser extent, Carrie [[who are supposedly 15 years older]] in the final act of the movie.

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* HollywoodOld: Julie and, to a lesser extent, Carrie [[who are supposedly 15 years older]] Carrie, in the final act of the movie.film version.
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* HollywoodOld: Julie and, to a lesser extent, Carrie [[who are supposedly 15 years older]] in the final act of the movie.


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* PlayingGertrude: Shirley Jones, age 22, was only eight years older than her onscreen daughter Bambi Linn (who played the dream version of the former a year earlier in Oklahoma).
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* RomanticizedAbuse: It's clear that Billy loves Julie. It's also clear that he's abusive, though perhaps less so than in the play it's based on.

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Billy\'s not at the pearly gates, i.e. the entrance to heaven, either literally or figuratively. He\'s IN heaven. And discussing the plot of Liliom, except specifically how it was adapted to the plot of Carousel, belongs on a page for that work; here it\'s just trivia.


* HowWeGotHere: The film version opens with Billy at the pearly gates; the stage version starts chronologically.

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* HowWeGotHere: The film version opens with Billy at the pearly gates; in heaven; the stage version starts chronologically.



** The 1934 film version of ''Liliom'' also ended with [[spoiler:a happy ending, with Liliom ending up in heaven, because of Julie's love and faithfulness for him. Basically a version of the infamous quote, "It's possible for someone to hit you, and not hurt at all," got Liliom into heaven! That, and Julie keeping the star.]]

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A 1945 musical adaptation of Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''{{Oklahoma}}!''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).

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A 1945 musical adaptation of Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''{{Oklahoma}}!''.''{{Oklahoma}}''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).



* FairForItsDay: The topic of domestic abuse was not handled very well in this play, but the fact that it even admitted this happened was a small breakthrough.
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->''Walk on through the wind, walk on through the rain,''
->''Though your dreams be tossed and blown.''
->''Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,''
->''And you'll never walk alone!''

A 1945 musical adaptation of Ferenc Molnar's play ''Liliom'', ''Carousel'' was RodgersAndHammerstein's follow-up to their first smash, ''{{Oklahoma}}!''. A film version was released in 1956, a year after the film version of ''Oklahoma!'' (and reuniting the latter's two leads).

Billy Bigelow is a carousel barker at a New England village, while Julie Jordan is a mill worker from the same town. They meet, [[SlapSlapKiss kind of fall in love]] and get married. The two lose their jobs, which frustrates Billy to the point that he lets loose his violent tendencies on Julie. Despite this, she's still willing to love the guy; when she gets pregnant, Billy decides to participate with a chum named Jigger in robbing Julie's former boss. The plan goes awry, and a disgraced Billy takes his own life. Fifteen years later, Billy is given a chance by "The Highest Judge of All" to redeem himself by helping his family out.

A remake of the movie has been planned, with HughJackman as the lead role of Billy.
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!!This story features examples of:

* AlliterativeName: Billy Biggelow and Julie Jordan.
* AllMusicalsAreAdaptations
* BetaCouple: Carrie Pipperidge and Enoch Snow
* BreakTheCutie: Well, the Fates attempted to break Julie, anyway. Find the love of your life, marry him, get caught in an abusive relationship, and then he dies, leaving you to raise your unborn child alone. Lesser characters would've definitely cracked under that strain.
* DarkReprise: "If I loved you." First sung by the leads as they ponder a life together; Billy sings it as a ghost as he [[GriefSong mourns his wasting his opportunity to spit out his feelings for Julie.]]
* DisappearedDad: Billy for Louise, though there is an explanation for this, and [[PosthumousNarration the audience gets to know what happened from Billy's point of view.]]
* DomesticAbuser
* DoesNotLikeShoes: Louise, Billy Bigelow's daughter
* DrivenToSuicide: Billy. The film version amends this to Billy accidentally falling on his own knife.
* FairForItsDay: The topic of domestic abuse was not handled very well in this play, but the fact that it even admitted this happened was a small breakthrough.
* GhostSong: Anything Billy sings after his death, especially his reprise of "If I Loved You."
* HowWeGotHere: The film version opens with Billy at the pearly gates; the stage version starts chronologically.
* IrrelevantActOpener: "A real nice clambake."
* JerkassFacade: Billy Bigelow
* KarmaHoudini: Jigger. [[spoiler:Though the film version suggests he eventually went to hell.]]
* MoodWhiplash: The bench scene is a beautiful love song where the couple falls for each other. In the next scene, they're already having some serious marital problems.
* MusicalisInterruptus: Julie tries singing "You'll never walk alone," but breaks down crying after a few bars. Nettie and the other townfolks take over.
* NeverGotToSayGoodbye
* OpeningBallet: The Carousel Waltz.
* TheOtherMarty: FrankSinatra was cast as Billy Bigelow in the film version, but left production a few weeks in rather than shoot each scene twice (once on 35mm, another on 55mm). A few weeks after Gordon Macrae came on board, [[ShaggyDogStory they discovered a conversion process between the formats.]]
* PosthumousNarration: Billy tells the story of his life with Julie while in heaven.
* RevisedEnding: ''Liliom'' originally ended on a downer with [[spoiler:Liliom failing to help his daughter and going to hell once he strikes her.]] This was revised in Carousel so that Billy [[spoiler:sticks around afterwards and succeeds in his mission.]] Molnar actually liked the newer ending.
** The 1934 film version of ''Liliom'' also ended with [[spoiler:a happy ending, with Liliom ending up in heaven, because of Julie's love and faithfulness for him. Basically a version of the infamous quote, "It's possible for someone to hit you, and not hurt at all," got Liliom into heaven! That, and Julie keeping the star.]]
* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: Julie and Billy's daughter, Louise, is born after his death.
* TheSoprano: Julie Jordan
* TalkAboutTheWeather
* YouAreNotAlone: [[TearJerker You'll never walk alone.]]
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