History TheScrappy / AnimeAndManga

23rd Apr '17 4:29:40 AM Loekman3
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': While initially an EnsembleDarkhorse due to perceived as being the GoodCounterpart of Frieza which fans have always wanted, after the revelation that [[spoiler:Frost is EvilAllAlong]], many fans now hate him due to being nothing more than a cheap rip-off of Frieza and apparently Frieza's race is AlwaysChaoticEvil even in the MirrorUniverse (Compare this to the Universe 6 Saiyan Cabba who is shown to be a humble and heroic Saiyan, in contrast to the prideful and arrogant Universe 7 counterpart). Many fans see this revelation as a TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter (Although, to be fair, this is exclusive to the anime, as he is not a fraud in the manga).
23rd Apr '17 2:23:01 AM Dghcrh
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** Demegawa. Fans considered him to be a {{Jerkass}} {{Expy}} of [[SpiderMan J. Jonah Jameson]] who's merely concerned with increasing his own profits. [[spoiler:''He even caused one of Light's plans to fail because of his MoneyFetish!'']]. [[spoiler:Good thing Mikami kills him]].
17th Apr '17 12:45:29 PM BatmanKalEl
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* ''Manga/ElfenLied'': [[KidsAreCruel The bullies]] at Kaede's orphanage are probably the most hated children in anime--of particular note is an infamous scene where they force Kaede to watch while they beat a puppy she was caring for to death--especially the little girl who is widely believed by half of the fanbase to have been a ManipulativeBitch and shows up at the last second. (Said little girl is however ''occasionally'' subjected to AlternateCharacterInterpretation -- we only have [[UnreliableNarrator Lucy's biased account]] for her actually acting out of malice.) As a side note, many fans were unhappy that the bullies' deaths were quick, wanting their deaths to be slow and painful.
** Yuka, due to the fact that she is in love with her cousin and physically beats him up for no reason. Plus the fact that she goes into {{Wangst}} over things which are [[AngstDissonance comparatively minor]], in contrast to almost everyone else on the show - even when you have positive traits, being selfish in contrast to the other members of the cast is ''not'' the way to go with a character... Though odds are that her more unreasonable haters can probably find ''some'' way [[InsaneTrollLogic to blame her]] for Lucy's MoralEventHorizon crossing (which ''wasn't her fault at all'').

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* ''Manga/ElfenLied'': [[KidsAreCruel The bullies]] at Kaede's orphanage are probably the most hated children in anime--of particular note is an infamous scene where they force Kaede to watch while they beat a puppy she was caring for to death--especially the little girl who is widely believed by half of the fanbase to have been a ManipulativeBitch and shows up at the last second. (Said little girl is however ''occasionally'' subjected to AlternateCharacterInterpretation -- we only have [[UnreliableNarrator Lucy's biased account]] for her actually acting out of malice.) As a side note, many fans were unhappy that the bullies' deaths were quick, wanting their deaths to be slow and painful.
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Yuka, due to the fact that she is in love with her cousin and physically beats him up for no reason. Plus the fact that she goes into {{Wangst}} over things which are [[AngstDissonance comparatively minor]], in contrast to almost everyone else on the show - even when you have positive traits, being selfish in contrast to the other members of the cast is ''not'' the way to go with a character... Though odds are that her more unreasonable haters can probably find ''some'' way [[InsaneTrollLogic to blame her]] for Lucy's MoralEventHorizon crossing (which ''wasn't her fault at all'').
17th Apr '17 5:27:32 AM RebelFalcon
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* Tianzi of the Chinese Federation because of her complaining.
%%* Gino Weinberg. Gino's entire character is essentially "Hit on Girls and act buddy-buddy with Suzaku", and he doesn't do much else than that the entire series, all 20 or so times he shows up and wastes precious time just being there. Worse, any attempts on the show's part to further define him begin and end with him [[ShelteredAristocrat failing to understand the desires and struggles of everyone else]], from Kallen's Japanese pride to his effective complicitness with Britannian policy (he doesn't see anything wrong with a purge during the second SAZ, for instance). The other Knights of the Round, (barring Anya & Luciano) may be considered examples of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter given their potential as a QuirkyMinibossSquad of EliteMooks and what little characterisation some of them got. You'd expect them to become compelling players. Alas, the series may as well have not had most of them at all for the little good they did (especially the two, Monica and Dorothea, who were reduced to MauveShirt status). This may be a partial result of the ExecutiveMeddling which afflicted Season 2, but it doesn't change what we got on-screen.
16th Apr '17 1:14:27 PM mouschilight
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** [[RebelliousPrincess Relena]], who is often seen as a TooDumbToLive StalkerWithACrush [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses Pink Menace]] regardless of her significant CharacterDevelopment and BadassPacifist moments--and this is before you get into the [[YaoiFangirl Yaoi Fangirls]] screaming "DieForOurShip!" in some cases, quite literally. The hatred was strongest when the show was still young in the [[AmericansHateTingle American fandom]], but over time [[RescuedFromTheScrapHeap many fans have come back and stated that they actually like her character]]. In Japan, Relena often appears in ''Gundam Ace'''s "Top 30 Females" list, and, as of 2010, is the only female ''Gundam Wing'' character to appear on said list. One poll even ranked her as the #1 most admired female ''Gundam'' character among female fans, who praised her for her inner strength and dedication.

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** [[RebelliousPrincess Relena]], who is often seen as a TooDumbToLive StalkerWithACrush [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses Pink Menace]] regardless of her significant CharacterDevelopment and BadassPacifist moments--and this is before you get into the [[YaoiFangirl Yaoi Fangirls]] screaming "DieForOurShip!" in some cases, quite literally. The hatred was strongest when the show was still young in the [[AmericansHateTingle American fandom]], but over time [[RescuedFromTheScrapHeap [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap many fans have come back and stated that they actually like her character]]. In Japan, Relena often appears in ''Gundam Ace'''s "Top 30 Females" list, and, as of 2010, is the only female ''Gundam Wing'' character to appear on said list. One poll even ranked her as the #1 most admired female ''Gundam'' character among female fans, who praised her for her inner strength and dedication.
16th Apr '17 1:13:45 PM mouschilight
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** [[RebelliousPrincess Relena]], who is often seen as a TooDumbToLive StalkerWithACrush [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses Pink Menace]] regardless of her significant CharacterDevelopment and BadassPacifist moments--and this is before you get into the [[YaoiFangirl Yaoi Fangirls]] screaming "DieForOurShip!" in some cases, quite literally. The hatred was strongest when the show was still young in the [[AmericansHateTingle American fandom]], but over time many fans have come back and stated that they actually like her character. In Japan, Relena often appears in ''Gundam Ace'''s "Top 30 Females" list, and, as of 2010, is the only female ''Gundam Wing'' character to appear on said list. One poll even ranked her as the #1 most admired female ''Gundam'' character among female fans, who praised her for her inner strength and dedication.

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** [[RebelliousPrincess Relena]], who is often seen as a TooDumbToLive StalkerWithACrush [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses Pink Menace]] regardless of her significant CharacterDevelopment and BadassPacifist moments--and this is before you get into the [[YaoiFangirl Yaoi Fangirls]] screaming "DieForOurShip!" in some cases, quite literally. The hatred was strongest when the show was still young in the [[AmericansHateTingle American fandom]], but over time [[RescuedFromTheScrapHeap many fans have come back and stated that they actually like her character.character]]. In Japan, Relena often appears in ''Gundam Ace'''s "Top 30 Females" list, and, as of 2010, is the only female ''Gundam Wing'' character to appear on said list. One poll even ranked her as the #1 most admired female ''Gundam'' character among female fans, who praised her for her inner strength and dedication.
8th Apr '17 8:27:45 AM rafi
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** Some parts of the fandom just can't stand Shun. Let's see, he's consideried the weakest of the team (let's ignore the whole "new body of Hades" thing), most of his attacks are defensive, and he ''always'' needs his big brother Ikki to save him. And while his little moment with Hyouga in the House of Libra created a legion of [[YaoiFangirl YaoiFangirls]], it definitely didn't sit well with the straight male demographic. It's worth noting that, nevertheless, he's [[AmericansHateTingle pretty popular in Japan]].

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** Some parts of Saori is reviled by "fandom feminists" who hate how she prefers to act as TheStrategist, use her HealingHands and become a BarrierMaiden, rather than being an ActionGirl like the fandom just can't stand Shun. Let's see, he's consideried female Saints. This apparently makes her [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass "an useless Load and Distressed Damsel without any value for the weakest of show"]]... never mind that [[Myth/ClassicalMythology the team (let's ignore *real* Goddess Athena]] (Goddess of '''Strategy and Defensive Warfare''') acted like that in Greek mythology, [[MentorArchetype guiding the whole "new body of Hades" thing), most of his attacks are defensive, heroes]] and he [[TheStrategist planning their strategies]] rather than fighting unless it was really needed, and that Saori herself ''always'' needs his big brother Ikki was the one to save him. And while his little moment deliver the FinishingMove on the BigBad, ''after'' going through lots of crap to help the guys as much as she can.
** We also have, among the Golden Saints, Cancer Deathmask for being an outright bastard, and Pisces Aphrodite being bashed for being a ruthless GorgeousGeorge who [[SuckMyRose fights
with Hyouga poisoned roses]] and not with hand-to-hand techniques. The Hades Saga even seem to confirm both as Scrappies. Both Aphrodite and Deathmask go down like chumps early in the House Hades chapter, and get re-re-re-killed by one of Libra created the Judges upon arriving in the underworld with a legion of [[YaoiFangirl YaoiFangirls]], it definitely didn't sit well single attack. Sure, they [[spoiler: had also gone good along with the straight male demographic. It's worth noting that, nevertheless, he's [[AmericansHateTingle pretty popular in Japan]].other resurrected saints and were trying to get close to Hades to kill him, but both were disposed of as quickly as most second string Spectres.]]
8th Apr '17 7:06:13 AM RebelFalcon
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* Gino Weinberg. Gino's entire character is essentially "Hit on Girls and act buddy-buddy with Suzaku", and he doesn't do much else than that the entire series, all 20 or so times he shows up and wastes precious time just being there. Worse, any attempts on the show's part to further define him begin and end with him [[ShelteredAristocrat failing to understand the desires and struggles of everyone else]], from Kallen's Japanese pride to his effective complicitness with Britannian policy (he doesn't see anything wrong with a purge during the second SAZ, for instance). The other Knights of the Round, (barring Anya & Luciano) may be considered examples of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter given their potential as a QuirkyMinibossSquad of EliteMooks and what little characterisation some of them got. You'd expect them to become compelling players. Alas, the series may as well have not had most of them at all for the little good they did (especially the two, Monica and Dorothea, who were reduced to MauveShirt status). This may be a partial result of the ExecutiveMeddling which afflicted Season 2, but it doesn't change what we got on-screen.

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* %%* Gino Weinberg. Gino's entire character is essentially "Hit on Girls and act buddy-buddy with Suzaku", and he doesn't do much else than that the entire series, all 20 or so times he shows up and wastes precious time just being there. Worse, any attempts on the show's part to further define him begin and end with him [[ShelteredAristocrat failing to understand the desires and struggles of everyone else]], from Kallen's Japanese pride to his effective complicitness with Britannian policy (he doesn't see anything wrong with a purge during the second SAZ, for instance). The other Knights of the Round, (barring Anya & Luciano) may be considered examples of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter given their potential as a QuirkyMinibossSquad of EliteMooks and what little characterisation some of them got. You'd expect them to become compelling players. Alas, the series may as well have not had most of them at all for the little good they did (especially the two, Monica and Dorothea, who were reduced to MauveShirt status). This may be a partial result of the ExecutiveMeddling which afflicted Season 2, but it doesn't change what we got on-screen.
31st Mar '17 1:17:41 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Wang Liu Mei for being too secretive, a SmugSnake in training, and her plan to "destroy the world she hates, through change" without ever saying ''why'' she hates the way it is now so vehemently. Her mistreatment of her [[UndyingLoyalty insanely loyal]] brother and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered attitude]] cements it.
31st Mar '17 1:10:03 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron-Blooded Orphans]]''
** Iok Kujan made his debut in the show's second season and quickly rose the ranks to become one of the most hated ''Gundam'' characters -- and rarely for this franchise, he's hated by both Japanese and Western fans. A member of Gjallarhorn's Seven Stars, fans started disliking him quickly because he's little more than an UpperClassTwit with [[HonorBeforeReason insanely outmoded ideas of honor]], very little intelligence and extremely poor impulse control. Things got worse as the story progressed, firstly with him [[spoiler:re-activating a Mobile Armor from the Calamity War (despite [=MacGillis=] warning him off), which causes it to go on a killing spree; after his men sacrifice themselves to save him, he attacks it anyway, which leads to the destruction of a farming village]]. Then Episodes 39 and 40 '''really''' cemented the hatred: [[spoiler:he frames the Turbines for possession of banned weapons, attacks them '''with''' those very weapons, blatantly ignores signals for ceasefire or surrender (and orders his men to do the same), has his men attack and destroy unarmed shuttles, and ultimately causes the deaths of fan-favorites Naze Turbine and Amida Arca.]] To put it simply, Japanese fans started a Twitter hashtag dedicated to discussing the ways they want to see Iok die, most of which are slow, painful, and humiliating.
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