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23rd Jul '16 8:29:40 AM Tropetastic1995
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** During the first part of the XY series, Ash's main rival was Tierno, a DanceBattler whose "rhytmic battle style" Ash tried (and failed) to replicate. Tierno is noticeably an AscendedExtra, as he is probably the least notable rival in the XY games. During the second half of the series,however, Ash meets a young trainer named Sawyer, who actually looks up to Ash and makes it his goal to surpass him, a nice [[InvertedTrope inversion]] of how Ash's rivalries regularly play out. Ash also develops a competitive rivalry with Alain, [[HeroOfAnotherStory the protagonist of a side-story of the anime]], who is interested in battling Ash and his Greninja's unique SuperMode. Alain, who is normally TheStoic, [[WorthyOpponent enjoyed battling Ash so much]] that he bothered to collect the 8 Gym Badges to participate in the Kalos League ''just'' so he can fight Ash. Ash, in turn, considers Alain the absolute bar to pass.
10th Jun '16 4:38:56 PM DoctorTItanX
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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': Ichigo's had several over the years, but his most notable rival is arguably Grimmjow (who serves as his EvilCounterpart), whose hatred of him borders on obsession. What started as an attempt to outdo Ulquiorra eventually lead to arguably the most intense grudge between two people in the entire series. The animosity between Grimmjow and Ichigo finally reached a boiling point in the Hueco Mundo arc, where the two finally had an uninterrupted fight in which Ichigo won. [[spoiler:He returns during The Thousand Year Blood War arc to aid the heroes in their attempt to defeat the BigBad, if only to guarantee a rematch with Ichigo.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': Ichigo's had several over the years, but his most notable rival is arguably Grimmjow (who serves as his EvilCounterpart), whose hatred of him borders on obsession. What started as an attempt to outdo Ulquiorra eventually lead to arguably the most intense grudge between two people in the entire series. The animosity between Grimmjow and Ichigo finally reached a boiling point in the Hueco Mundo arc, where the two finally had an uninterrupted fight in which Ichigo won. [[spoiler:He returns during The Thousand Year Blood War arc to aid the heroes Ichigo and the others in their attempt to defeat the BigBad, [[BigBad ultimate enemy]] [[TheEmperor Yhwach]], if only to guarantee a rematch with Ichigo.]]
1st Jun '16 9:34:07 AM Willbyr
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** A hilarious case where creator Creator/EiichiroOda sees the ''Anime/PrettyCure'' series as a rival due to his young children liking it more than One Piece. He vowed to take it down.

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** A hilarious case where creator Creator/EiichiroOda sees the ''Anime/PrettyCure'' ''Franchise/PrettyCure'' series as a rival due to his young children liking it more than One Piece. He vowed to take it down.



-->'''Red''': Someone once told me that you have to know your limits! ''*recalls his exhausted Pokemon*''
-->'''Green''': Heh. And someone once told me that there is no victory in defeating a weakened opponent. Choose your next Pokemon, Red!
%%* ''Anime//PrettyCure'' has a number of these.

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-->'''Red''': Someone once told me that you have to know your limits! ''*recalls his exhausted Pokemon*''
-->'''Green''':
Pokemon*''\\
'''Green''':
Heh. And someone once told me that there is no victory in defeating a weakened opponent. Choose your next Pokemon, Red!
%%* ''Anime//PrettyCure'' has a number of these.
Red!



* ''[[Anime/{{Scryed}} s-CRY-ed]]'' is largely built around the rivalry between [[RedOniBlueOni brash, free-spirited Kazuma and stoic, duty-obsessed Ryuhou]]. In other series it's usually ThePowerOfLove that can never be extinguished and can overcome any obstacle; in ''s-CRY-ed'' it's Power of Hot-Blooded Macho Rivalry instead. It's a notable example for just how much effort is put into developing their rivalry: at first it's simply because Kazyma and Ryuhou piss each other off, but gradually, even as their viewpoints and personalities change and develop their rivalry simply intensifies over time rather then ever really reconciling, and the series ends on their climactic final battle. Amusingly, in one episode a character with the ability to [[RealityWarper write a script that everyone must then follow as long as they're in it]] attempts to have the two reconcile in a friendly sparring match, his story ending in them becoming friends after working through their rivalry. It completely backfires, as Kazuma hates Ryuhou ''so'' much that just "fighting until they turn into friends" ISN'T enough for him, and it breaks the script and reality re-asserts itself.

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* ''[[Anime/{{Scryed}} s-CRY-ed]]'' ''Anime/{{Scryed}}'' is largely built around the rivalry between [[RedOniBlueOni brash, free-spirited Kazuma and stoic, duty-obsessed Ryuhou]]. In other series it's usually ThePowerOfLove that can never be extinguished and can overcome any obstacle; in ''s-CRY-ed'' it's Power of Hot-Blooded Macho Rivalry instead. It's a notable example for just how much effort is put into developing their rivalry: at first it's simply because Kazyma and Ryuhou piss each other off, but gradually, even as their viewpoints and personalities change and develop their rivalry simply intensifies over time rather then ever really reconciling, and the series ends on their climactic final battle. Amusingly, in one episode a character with the ability to [[RealityWarper write a script that everyone must then follow as long as they're in it]] attempts to have the two reconcile in a friendly sparring match, his story ending in them becoming friends after working through their rivalry. It completely backfires, as Kazuma hates Ryuhou ''so'' much that just "fighting until they turn into friends" ISN'T enough for him, and it breaks the script and reality re-asserts itself.
11th Apr '16 10:46:31 PM Pichu-kun
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* Suzaku Kururugi in ''Anime/CodeGeass''.
** But definitely ''not'' Rivalz.
** A little more complicated than that. Suzaku plays [[FriendlyEnemy friendly enemies]] with Lelouch, due to their friendship but drastically opposed viewpoints. [[spoiler: Though Lelouch is initially not aware, and feels quite betrayed when he finds out, he sort of understands Suzaku's views and situation, going so far as to save him twice, despite it. Up until the second season, where things get... generally more violent, and their respective actions, much less forgivable.]]

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* * ''Anime/CodeGeass'':
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Suzaku Kururugi in ''Anime/CodeGeass''.
** But definitely ''not'' Rivalz.
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Kururugi. It's little more complicated than that.the norm though. Suzaku plays [[FriendlyEnemy friendly enemies]] with Lelouch, due to their friendship but drastically opposed viewpoints. [[spoiler: Though Lelouch is initially not aware, and feels quite betrayed when he finds out, he sort of understands Suzaku's views and situation, going so far as to save him twice, despite it. Up until the second season, where things get... generally more violent, and their respective actions, much less forgivable.]]



* Sasuke of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' floats in and out of this role. [[WordOfGod Kishimoto]] actually stated he read up on the archetype in various manga when making him.
** Sasuke's entire creation was based on the fact that Kishimoto's editor said that Naruto needed a rival. Guess the fangirls should be grateful for this trope.
** Then there's Sakura and Ino, though their rivalry has toned down a lot in Shippuden.

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'':
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Sasuke of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' floats in and out of this role. [[WordOfGod Kishimoto]] actually stated he read up on the archetype in various manga when making him.
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him. Sasuke's entire creation was based on the fact that Kishimoto's editor said that Naruto needed a rival. Guess the fangirls should be grateful for this trope.
** Then there's Sakura and Ino, though their rivalry has toned down a lot in Shippuden.''Shippuden''.



** In the Diamond and Pearl series, he has Paul, who happens to be at least a half-dozen shades darker than Gary ever was, to worry about, and the new guy is not only efficient in subduing Ash, but also darwinistically cruel; any Pokemon he deems weak is dropped or handed off without a second thought.
*** Incidentally, Paul's actions are frequently compared to the modus operandi for [[StopHavingFunGuys most people playing the game]].
*** [[spoiler:As of the end of the Sinnoh Arc, Paul [[DefeatMeansFriendship seems to have gotten better]]. At the very least, his defeat at the hands of [[HoistByHisOwnPetard ex-party member Infernape]] has forced him to acknowledge Ash's skill.]]

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** In the Diamond and Pearl series, he has Paul, Paul (who is an {{expy}} of the rival Silver from ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver''), who happens to be at least a half-dozen shades darker than Gary ever was, to worry about, and the new guy is not only efficient in subduing Ash, but also darwinistically cruel; any Pokemon he deems weak is dropped or handed off without a second thought.
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thought. Incidentally, Paul's actions are frequently compared to the modus operandi for [[StopHavingFunGuys most people playing the game]].
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game]]. [[spoiler:As of the end of the Sinnoh Arc, Paul [[DefeatMeansFriendship seems to have gotten better]]. At the very least, his defeat at the hands of [[HoistByHisOwnPetard ex-party member Infernape]] has forced him to acknowledge Ash's skill.]]



** Bianca, [[AscendedExtra Stephan]], Cameron and Virgil are also introduced in this saga as rivals for Ash, the former two gaining more story and focus as rivals as it becomes clearer that the rivalry between Ash and Trip just wasn't working. Stephan and his Sawk even get their own rivals during the Clubsplosion arc.
** ''Manga/PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure'' has Jun, a counterpart to [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Barry]].
** ''Manga/PokemonSpecial'' has Red and Green/[[DubNameChange Blue]], mirroring the video games as well as Ash and Gary. They aren't ever explicitly hostile to one another, but are disdainful of their respective training techniques: Green thinks Red is airheaded and impulsive, relying on luck to win, while Red thinks Green is overly harsh and uncaring towards Pokemon, seeing them as simple tools. In the end, they wind up learning from each other (Red becomes calmer and more strategic, Green becomes more openly friendly with his Pokemon), and the two are FireForgedFriends as of the Pokemon League battles.

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** Bianca, [[AscendedExtra Stephan]], Cameron Cameron, and Virgil are also introduced in this saga as rivals for Ash, the former two gaining more story and focus as rivals as it becomes clearer that the rivalry between Ash and Trip just wasn't working. Stephan and his Sawk even get their own rivals during the Clubsplosion arc.
** * ''Manga/PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure'' has Jun, a counterpart to the rival of [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Barry]].
** ''Manga/PokemonSpecial''
the source games]] Barry, as Hareta's rival.
* ''Manga/PokemonAdventures''
has Red and Green/[[DubNameChange Blue]], mirroring the video games as well as Ash and Gary. They aren't ever explicitly hostile to one another, but are disdainful of their respective training techniques: Green thinks Red is airheaded and impulsive, relying on luck to win, while Red thinks Green is overly harsh and uncaring towards Pokemon, seeing them as simple tools. In the end, they wind up learning from each other (Red becomes calmer and more strategic, Green becomes more openly friendly with his Pokemon), and the two are FireForgedFriends as of the Pokemon League battles.



* ''[[Manga/GashBell Konjiki no Gash Bell!!]]'' has two of these.

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* ''[[Manga/GashBell Konjiki no Gash Bell!!]]'' ''Manga/ZatchBell'' has two of these.
11th Apr '16 6:54:25 AM Tron80
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* ''Anime/PanzerWorldGalient'': After their first battle, [[TheDragon Hy Shaltat]] gets obsessed with defeating [[TheHero Jordy]] and destroying [[HumongousMecha Galient]]. He even ignores orders several times in order to have a rematch with Jordy.
8th Mar '16 5:04:29 PM lemonlime
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* Rikiishi Toru in ''Manga/AshitaNoJoe'' acts as a PrivilegedRival to the poor, downtrodden protagonist, Yabuki Joe.
24th Jan '16 2:05:47 PM Gamermaster
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* ''Anime/ImmortalGrandPrix'': When Takeshi Jin was hired by Team Satomi, incumbent pilot Riven felt put out by the decision, and the two were bitterly at odds until Riven finally decided to quit and join rival Team Sledgemama. As it turned out, Takeshi connected with Riven ''much'' better as a rival, and they've since become much friendlier.

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* ''Anime/ImmortalGrandPrix'': ''Anime/IGPXImmortalGrandPrix'': When Takeshi Jin was hired by Team Satomi, incumbent pilot Riven felt put out by the decision, and the two were bitterly at odds until Riven finally decided to quit and join rival Team Sledgemama. As it turned out, Takeshi connected with Riven ''much'' better as a rival, and they've since become much friendlier.
24th Jan '16 2:04:41 PM Gamermaster
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** ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'' has Agito vs. Reinforce Zwei until the former is adopted by the Yagami family and they have developed a friendly SiblingRivalry. Also downplayed with the unspoken rivalry between Nanoha and Teana--despite them starting off teacher and student, respectively, they quietly compete over who is the best sharpshooter of their generation (Nanoha is only three years older), if the mock battles in ''[=ViVid=]'' are any indication. Also, over being the [[TriangRelations bigger influence on Subaru]].
** ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' had Einhart to Vivio, and she was the UnknownRival to Ixpellia in the beginning of the season, but Einhart has become a FriendlyEnemy and the best friend of Vivio and she has given up on Ixpellia, who lies in a coma anyway. Many of the Inter-Middle Championship participants have a strong rivalry to each other. Harry vs. Victoria, Els vs. Harry, and many participants are rivaling Sieglinde, especially Micaiah has the strongest resolve to defeat her. Vivio gained another rival of the FriendlyEnemy type, Miura Rinaldi, who has a similar role as Vita and Signum to Nanoha and Fate, respectively.

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** ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' has Agito vs. Reinforce Zwei until the former is adopted by the Yagami family and they have developed a friendly SiblingRivalry. Also downplayed with the unspoken rivalry between Nanoha and Teana--despite them starting off teacher and student, respectively, they quietly compete over who is the best sharpshooter of their generation (Nanoha is only three years older), if the mock battles in ''[=ViVid=]'' are any indication. Also, over being the [[TriangRelations bigger influence on Subaru]].
** ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaVivid'' had Einhart to Vivio, and she was the UnknownRival to Ixpellia in the beginning of the season, but Einhart has become a FriendlyEnemy and the best friend of Vivio and she has given up on Ixpellia, who lies in a coma anyway. Many of the Inter-Middle Championship participants have a strong rivalry to each other. Harry vs. Victoria, Els vs. Harry, and many participants are rivaling Sieglinde, especially Micaiah has the strongest resolve to defeat her. Vivio gained another rival of the FriendlyEnemy type, Miura Rinaldi, who has a similar role as Vita and Signum to Nanoha and Fate, respectively.
21st Dec '15 9:18:13 AM GottaHaveFaith
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** A better example would be the Eleven Supernovas (a group of eleven rookie pirates, including Luffy and Zoro, with bounties of over 100 million who reached the end of the first half of the Grand Line) to each other; Eustass Kid and Trafalgar Law in particular are introduced as rivals to Luffy (although, in light of Law's alliance with Luffy, the two of them seem to have a relatively FriendlyRivalry at this point).

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** A better example would be the Eleven Supernovas (a group of eleven rookie pirates, including Luffy and Zoro, with bounties of over 100 million who reached the end of the first half of the Grand Line) Line at the same time) to each other; Eustass Kid and Trafalgar Law in particular are introduced as rivals to Luffy (although, in light of Law's alliance with Luffy, the two of them seem to have a relatively FriendlyRivalry at this point).
21st Dec '15 9:17:35 AM GottaHaveFaith
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** One could argue this for Luffy and Smoker, though it isn't so much as competing over anything as it is Luffy trying not to get caught by Smoker and get thrown into Impel Down. There's also Zoro and Mihawk, to the point that Mihawk [[spoiler:''trained'' him specifically for the job]].

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** One could argue this for Luffy and Smoker, though it isn't so much as competing over anything as it is Luffy trying not to get caught by Smoker and get thrown into Impel Down. Down.
** A better example would be the Eleven Supernovas (a group of eleven rookie pirates, including Luffy and Zoro, with bounties of over 100 million who reached the end of the first half of the Grand Line) to each other; Eustass Kid and Trafalgar Law in particular are introduced as rivals to Luffy (although, in light of Law's alliance with Luffy, the two of them seem to have a relatively FriendlyRivalry at this point).
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There's also Zoro and Mihawk, to the point that Mihawk [[spoiler:''trained'' him specifically for the job]].
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