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** [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Brisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion.]]]]]]



* [[spoiler: The death of Nicodemus]] as well as Justin and Mr. Ages's reactions to it.
** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but his sorrow makes sense when you realize that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.

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** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but his sorrow makes sense when you realize that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] Nicodemus escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.
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--> '''Teresa:''' Mother. ''Mother!''
--> '''Cynthia:''' What's all that black stuff?
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'''Cynthia:''' What's all that black stuff?
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** Nicodemus explains to her why Jonathan couldn't tell her about NIMH: the experiments performed on him, Mr. Ages, Nicodemus, and the other rats slowed the aging process. You can see Mrs. Brisby wondering how Jonathan would have felt watching her grow old while he remained young. There's also the fact that her children would outlive her since they would have inherited their father's abnormal traits.


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* Nicodemus explains to Mrs. Brisby why Jonathan couldn't tell her about NIMH: the experiments performed on him, Mr. Ages, Nicodemus, and the other rats slowed their aging process. You can see Mrs. Brisby wondering how Jonathan was feeling watching her grow old while he remained young. There's also the fact that her children would outlive her since they would have inherited their father's abnormal traits.
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** Nicodemus explains to her why Jonathan couldn't tell her about NIMH: the experiments performed on him, Mr. Ages and the rats slowed the aging process. You can see Mrs. Brisby wondering how Jonathan would have felt watching her and their children grow old while he remained young.

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** Nicodemus explains to her why Jonathan couldn't tell her about NIMH: the experiments performed on him, Mr. Ages Ages, Nicodemus, and the other rats slowed the aging process. You can see Mrs. Brisby wondering how Jonathan would have felt watching her and their children grow old while he remained young. There's also the fact that her children would outlive her since they would have inherited their father's abnormal traits.
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** Nicodemus explains to her why Jonathan couldn't tell her about NIMH: the experiments performed on him, Mr. Ages and the rats slowed the aging process. You can see Mrs. Brisby wondering how Jonathan would have felt watching her and their children grow old while he remained young.
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* Poor, poor Sullivan. True he was in league with Jenner, but the entire time the poor guy just can't bring himself to go through with the murder of their leader, and is essentially forced to work against his own just to appease the power-hungry Jenner.....[[MeaninglessVillainVictory who's victory will mean nothing]] [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom as NIMH knows where they are hiding and plan to have them destroyed by morning]]. Sullivan eventually comes to the aid of Justin over him in the final battle, and [[HeroicSacrifice quickly loses his life for it]]. Even after he lands the killing blow on Jenner with his final breath, we don't see anybody coming to mourn him onscreen.
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** Hell, pretty much any time she's forced to remember her late husband or invoke his name for help there's a little catch in her voice. The wound is still very fresh.

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** Hell, pretty much any time she's forced to remember her late husband or invoke his name for help there's a little catch in her voice. The wound is still very fresh. Her reaching out to the image of him in the image Nicodemus shows her is absolutely ''heartbreaking.''
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** It's also a nasty bit of FridgeHorror when you realize Mrs. Brisby hadn't known until then just how her husband died. It's likely he just never came home one night and she was forced to assume the worst. If she had never visited the rats, it's likely she never would have gotten closure for what happened to Johnathan.

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** It's also a nasty bit of FridgeHorror when you realize Mrs. Brisby hadn't known until then just how her husband died. It's likely he just never came home one night and she was forced to assume the worst. If she had never visited the rats, it's likely she never would have gotten closure for what happened to Johnathan.Jonathan.



** Now imagine her entire time in the farmhouse, during her own attempt to drug Dragon. How many times must she have thought to herself, "This is how Johnathan died."
* Nicodemus's opening monologue as he laments Johnathan's death and wonders what will happen to his wife now:

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** Now imagine her entire time in the farmhouse, during her own attempt to drug Dragon. How many times must she have thought to herself, "This is how Johnathan Jonathan died."
* Nicodemus's opening monologue as he laments Johnathan's Jonathan's death and wonders what will happen to his wife now:
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** Now imagine her entire time in the farmhouse, during her own attempt to drug Dragon. How many times must she have thought to herself, "This is how Johnathan died."
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* While it quickly stops thanks to Jeremy, Mrs. Brisby breaks down in tears near the beginning of the movie because she thinks she lost Timmy's medicine to help him with his pneumonia. When you look at it in her view, ''she just lost the only chance she had of her younger son surviving his illness''.
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*** If you pay attention to Teresa [[FreezeFrameBonus just as Cyntha finishes asking if Timmy will die]], she looks like she's trying to not start crying at the idea of her little brother dying.

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*** ** If you pay attention to Teresa [[FreezeFrameBonus just as Cyntha finishes asking if Timmy will die]], she looks like she's trying to not start crying at the idea of her little brother dying.
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*** If you pay attention to Teresa [[FreezeFrameBonus just as Cyntha finishes asking if Timmy will die]], she looks like she's trying to not start crying at the idea of her little brother dying.
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* Martin's [[spoiler: torture and MindRape while at NIMH]] in the second film, crosses over into NightmareFuel.

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* The part when Mrs. Brisby finds out what happened to her husband always made me very sad, as a kid. As well as [[NightmareFuel disturbed me]].
** It's that little hitch in her voice as she's reading from Nicodemus's journal that gets the tears flowing:

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husband. It's that little hitch in her voice as she's reading from Nicodemus's journal that gets the tears flowing:
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*** This is actually explicitly stated in the original novel.
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* Martin's [[spoiler: torture and MindRape while at NIMH]] in the second film, crosses over into NightmareFuel.

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* Martin's [[spoiler: torture and MindRape while at NIMH]] in the second film, crosses over into NightmareFuel.NightmareFuel.
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** Hell, pretty much any time she's forced to remember her late husband or invoke his name for help there's a little catch in her voice. The wound is still very fresh.

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** The harshest part of this scene is the fact that NeverSayDie is ''strongly'' averted by children of all things. The children crowd around Timothy's bed, clearly worried, and ask their mother if he's going to die.

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** The harshest part of this scene is the fact that NeverSayDie is ''strongly'' averted by children of all things.children. The children crowd around Timothy's bed, clearly worried, and ask their mother if he's going to die.



** This troper was scarred for life when (for some reason she can't remember) she couldn't continue watching the rest. At the part after their home was completely submerged in the mud. She bawled the entire time after this for a good hour, having never seen the closure that Mrs. Brisby's children turn out okay.
** To this troper it is actually no wonder, as this scene is exceptionally well handled, at least in terms of Mrs. Brisby' reaction. She has a ''very'' unforgivingly disturbed (and disturbing) wide-eyed expression, summarizing the horror and shock of a widow seeing her house with all her children and her best friend sink while the rescuers are just standing next to it, unable to do anything against it. Plus, they forcefully drag her away from said sinking house ''while she watches'', being all hysterical and quite possibly near breakdown. It is only moments later that there is ''any'' indication that this predicament would be resolved.

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** This troper was scarred for life when (for some reason she can't remember) she couldn't continue watching the rest. At the The part after their the home was completely submerged in the mud. She bawled the entire time after this for a good hour, having never seen the closure that Mrs. Brisby's children turn out okay.
** To this troper it is actually no wonder, as this scene
mud is exceptionally well handled, at least in terms of Mrs. Brisby' reaction. She has a ''very'' unforgivingly disturbed (and disturbing) wide-eyed expression, summarizing the horror and shock of a widow seeing her house with all her children and her best friend sink while the rescuers are just standing next to it, unable to do anything against it. Plus, they forcefully drag her away from said sinking house ''while she watches'', being all hysterical and quite possibly near breakdown. It is only moments later that there is ''any'' indication that this predicament would be resolved.
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* You have to feel sorry for Jeremy near the end, after going through all sorts of hell to impress Mrs Brisby, he finally comes back enthusiastically with string in tow to lift her house out of the mud, only to realize he's missed the whole ordeal. Dejected he fails to see any other point for the string anymore ("What's a guy like me gonna do with a love nest anyway?") and slowly walks away slumped over. However, just then [[ThrowTheDogABone a klutzy female crow crashes into him...]]

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* You have to feel sorry for Jeremy near the end, after going through all sorts of hell to impress Mrs Brisby, he finally comes back enthusiastically with string in tow to lift her house out of the mud, only to realize he's missed the whole ordeal. Dejected he fails to see any other point for the string anymore ("What's a guy like me gonna do with a love nest anyway?") and slowly walks away slumped over. However, just then [[ThrowTheDogABone a klutzy female crow crashes into him...]]]]
* Martin's [[spoiler: torture and MindRape while at NIMH]] in the second film, crosses over into NightmareFuel.
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** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but his sorrow makes sense when you realize that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.

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** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but his sorrow makes sense when you realize that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.friends.
* You have to feel sorry for Jeremy near the end, after going through all sorts of hell to impress Mrs Brisby, he finally comes back enthusiastically with string in tow to lift her house out of the mud, only to realize he's missed the whole ordeal. Dejected he fails to see any other point for the string anymore ("What's a guy like me gonna do with a love nest anyway?") and slowly walks away slumped over. However, just then [[ThrowTheDogABone a klutzy female crow crashes into him...]]
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** [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Brisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion. ]]

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** [[spoiler: [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Brisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion. ]]exhaustion.]]]]
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** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but his sorrow makes sense when you remember that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.

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** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but his sorrow makes sense when you remember realize that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.
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** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but remember that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.

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** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but his sorrow makes sense when you remember that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.

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** The harshest part of this scene is the fact that NeverSayDie is ''strongly'' averted by children of all things. The children crowd around Timothy's bed, clearly worried, and ask their mother if he's going to die.
-->'''Cynthia''': Is Timmy gonna die?
-->'''Mrs. Brisby''': No, sweetheart. He's just very sick.
-->'''Theresa''': What's the matter with him, Mother?
-->'''Mrs. Brisby''': Mr. Ages called it...pneumonia.
-->'''Theresa''': Pneumonia?
-->'''Cynthia''': When will he get better?
-->'''Mrs. Brisby''': Soon...I hope.



*** [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Brisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion. ]]

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*** ** [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Brisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion. ]]



-->'''Nicodemus''': Jonathan was a dear friend. I am lost, knowing how to help his widow. She knows nothing of us, or the Plan. Perhaps best that I do nothing at present. I shall miss him. Jonathan, wherever you are, your thoughts must comfort her tonight. [[TearJerker She'll be waiting, and you will not return.]] Farewell...my friend.

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-->'''Nicodemus''': Jonathan was a dear friend. I am lost, knowing how to help his widow. She knows nothing of us, or the Plan. Perhaps best that I do nothing at present. I shall miss him. Jonathan, wherever you are, your thoughts must comfort her tonight. [[TearJerker She'll be waiting, and you will not return.]] Farewell...my friend.friend.
* [[spoiler: The death of Nicodemus]] as well as Justin and Mr. Ages's reactions to it.
** Justin has a momentary HeroicBSOD, while Mr. Ages breaks down and seems to start crying as he tells Mrs. Brisby what happened. Ages has been rather crotchety in all his previous scenes, but remember that he and [[spoiler: Nicodemus]] escaped NIMH together and must have been very old friends.
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** It's also a nasty bit of FridgeHorror when you realize Mrs. Brisby hadn't known until then just how her husband died. It's likely he just never came home one night and she was forced to assume the worst. If she had never visited the rats, it's likely she never would have gotten closure for what happened to Johnathan.

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** It's also a nasty bit of FridgeHorror when you realize Mrs. Brisby hadn't known until then just how her husband died. It's likely he just never came home one night and she was forced to assume the worst. If she had never visited the rats, it's likely she never would have gotten closure for what happened to Johnathan.Johnathan.
* Nicodemus's opening monologue as he laments Johnathan's death and wonders what will happen to his wife now:
-->'''Nicodemus''': Jonathan was a dear friend. I am lost, knowing how to help his widow. She knows nothing of us, or the Plan. Perhaps best that I do nothing at present. I shall miss him. Jonathan, wherever you are, your thoughts must comfort her tonight. [[TearJerker She'll be waiting, and you will not return.]] Farewell...my friend.

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*** Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Brisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion.

* The part when Mrs. Brisby finds out what happened to her husband always made me very sad, as a kid. As well as [[NightmareFuel disturbed me]].

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*** [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Brisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion.

exhaustion. ]]

* The part when Mrs. Brisby finds out what happened to her husband always made me very sad, as a kid. As well as [[NightmareFuel disturbed me]].me]].
** It's that little hitch in her voice as she's reading from Nicodemus's journal that gets the tears flowing:
-->'''Mrs. Brisby''':[reading] "He was ki.." [her voice breaks] "...killed today....while drugging the farmer's cat, Dragon." Oh, I....I never knew...just what happened.
** It's also a nasty bit of FridgeHorror when you realize Mrs. Brisby hadn't known until then just how her husband died. It's likely he just never came home one night and she was forced to assume the worst. If she had never visited the rats, it's likely she never would have gotten closure for what happened to Johnathan.

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*** Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Frisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion.


* The part when Mrs. Brisby finds out what happened to her husband always made me very sad, as
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exhaustion.

* The part when Mrs. Brisby finds out what happened to her husband always made me very sad, as
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* The part when Mrs. Brisby finds out what happened to her husband always made me very sad, as a kid. As well as [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel disturbed me]].

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*** If that wasn't bad enough, they show the children terrified, scrambling for survival.
--> '''Teresa:''' Mother. ''Mother!''
--> '''Cynthia:''' What's all that black stuff?
*** Then, when the block ''does'' rise after being saved the amulet saves it, it shoots out and the instrumental version of ''Flying Dreams'' starts to play, and Mrs Frisby collapses out of sheer exhaustion.

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* The part when Mrs. Brisby finds out what happened to her husband always made me very sad, as as
a kid. As well as [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel disturbed me]].

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