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--> [[spoiler: '''Vegeta''':]] [[spoiler: I couldn't keep my promise. I'm a damn fool. I'm sorry... Bulma... Cabba...]]

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--> [[spoiler: '''Vegeta''':]] [[spoiler: I [[spoiler:I couldn't keep my promise. I'm a damn fool. I'm sorry... Bulma... Cabba...]]]]
* At the end of episode 130, [[spoiler:Goku being taken down by the toll mastered Ultra Instinct took on his body. Even Jiren expresses shock and sadness at their battle ending like that]].
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**** [[spoiler:Slightly subverted in that in episode 130, it is revealed that 17 actually survived. [[GambitRoulette It was still a gamble though]].]]
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** [[spoiler: The final moments of the alternate Chichi and Goten was a horrific sight of someone using Goku's body to murder him in cold blood. When Chichi tries to get her son away from Zamasu, we get an obscured scene of Chichi and Goten screaming as Zamsu murders them as well.]]

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** [[spoiler: The final moments of the alternate Chichi and Goten was a were the horrific sight of someone using Goku's body to murder him in cold blood. When Chichi tries to get her son away from Zamasu, we get an obscured scene of Chichi and Goten screaming as Zamsu Zamasu murders them as well.]]
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* Confirmed in Episode 61. [[spoiler: When Black and Zamasu cornered Goku, Black taunts him that after switching bodies, he immediately went to kill Goku in his original body then went to kill ''Chi-Chi and Goten''. Goku was so pissed from the fact that Zamasu had stolen his body and killed them with said body he briefly went berserk, but that wasn't enough to avenge them. It's sadder when we remember the last time he went this berserk, it really didn't do anything]].

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* Confirmed in Episode 61. [[spoiler: When Black and Zamasu cornered Goku, Black taunts him with the fact that after switching bodies, he immediately went to kill Goku in his original body then went to kill ''Chi-Chi and Goten''. Goku was so pissed from the fact that Zamasu had stolen his body and killed them with said body he briefly went berserk, but that wasn't enough to avenge them. It's sadder when we remember the last time he went this berserk, it really didn't do anything]].
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* The announcement of ''Dragon Ball Super'' going on an indefinite hiatus and possibly concluding was given with only eight episodes remaining before its finale. For longtime fans of the series, or newcomers who were just getting into the franchise, it was a sudden and saddening hit to hear the series would be leaving so soon. While apparently it may yet return or there will be something beyond ''Super'', it was still a blow, especially so close on the heels of Tsuru's passing, Ayres' struggles and anxiety about the health of the rest of the cast.

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* The announcement of ''Dragon Ball Super'' going on an indefinite hiatus and possibly concluding was given with only eight episodes remaining before its finale. For longtime fans of the series, or newcomers who were just getting into the franchise, it was a sudden and saddening hit to hear the series would be leaving so soon. While apparently it may yet return or there will be something beyond ''Super'', it was still a blow, especially so close on the heels of Tsuru's passing, Ayres' struggles and anxiety about the health of the rest of the cast. Turned to joy when it was revealed that Super is coming back after all, and only on a hiatus for the movie and the manga to catch up.
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** Before Goku meets with Fortuneteller Baba [[spoiler: to call forth the spirit of Frieza]], he's seen standing on the platform outside her house, and is then seen going through a sparing motion with seemingly no one. However, sharp eyed fans recognized that this is not random acrobatics. He's reenacting, exact motion by motion, the fight between him and the spirit of Grandpa Gohan when he was the Masked Fighter of Baba, in the same arena they fought in. All the way from the original [[Manga/DragonBall Dragon Ball]]. He's not just practicing. ''He's reliving one of the last times he saw his Grandpa Gohan.'' Even after all these years, he still thinks of him.
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*** Some have interpreted it as a bizarre but still sad moment of BreakingTheFourthWall: [[spoiler:Beerus may be addressing the narrator, asking him to break the silence, because Beerus doesn't know what to say now. In fact, the narrator start talking soon after.]]
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* Episode 128 also has a big one: [[spoiler: Vegeta's final stand against Jiren. He's hopelessly outclassed, has no chance of winning, and yet he goes to fight Jiren anyway. Naturally, it doesn't work, and Vegeta ends up eliminated for his troubles. It even has Vegeta going through memories with Bulma and Cabba as he desperately tries to keep fighting Jiren. His last thoughts as he's taken out of the ring describe it best, and he even tears up himself as it's going.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Vegeta''':]] [[spoiler: I couldn't keep my promise. I'm a damn fool. I'm sorry... Bulma... Cabba... Kakarot... I leave the rest to you.]]

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* Episode 128 also has a big one: [[spoiler: Vegeta's final stand against Jiren. He's hopelessly outclassed, out of energy (He used it all on the Final Explosion against Toppo two episodes earlier), has no chance of winning, and yet he goes to fight Jiren anyway. Naturally, it doesn't work, and Vegeta ends up eliminated for his troubles. It even has Vegeta going through memories with Bulma and Cabba as he desperately tries to keep fighting Jiren. His last thoughts as he's taken out of the ring describe it best, and he even tears up himself as it's going.this happens.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Vegeta''':]] [[spoiler: I couldn't keep my promise. I'm a damn fool. I'm sorry... Bulma... Cabba... Kakarot... I leave the rest to you.]]
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-->: [[spoiler: '''Vegeta''':]] [[spoiler: I couldn't keep my promise. I'm a damn fool. I'm sorry... Bulma... Cabba... Kakarot... I leave the rest to you.]]

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-->: --> [[spoiler: '''Vegeta''':]] [[spoiler: I couldn't keep my promise. I'm a damn fool. I'm sorry... Bulma... Cabba... Kakarot... I leave the rest to you.]]
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*Episode 128 also has a big one: [[spoiler: Vegeta's final stand against Jiren. He's hopelessly outclassed, has no chance of winning, and yet he goes to fight Jiren anyway. Naturally, it doesn't work, and Vegeta ends up eliminated for his troubles. It even has Vegeta going through memories with Bulma and Cabba as he desperately tries to keep fighting Jiren. His last thoughts as he's taken out of the ring describe it best, and he even tears up himself as it's going.]]
-->: [[spoiler: '''Vegeta''':]] [[spoiler: I couldn't keep my promise. I'm a damn fool. I'm sorry... Bulma... Cabba... Kakarot... I leave the rest to you.]]
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* Gohan and Piccolo clearly are uncomfortable fighting the two Namekians; Piccolo having just reconciled with his own species while Gohan had the most experience interacting with them. Picocolo is very visibly shaken up during the entire event, to the point of uncharacteristically freezing up during the match, while Gohan, although more composed, is clearly just barely holding himself together and trying to distancing himself from the fact that they're basically fighting people they would have considered friends in another life (or just in different circumstances).
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*** It also puts Jiren's reaction to Toppo's elimination under a new light: casting everything aside in order to get stronger is what Jiren did, so his words toward Toppo most likely show that, despite everything, he despises what he has become.
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* Piccolo fighting Pirina and Saonel. [[spoiler: He was already somewhat uneasy knowing that he has to fight his own kin, and be indirectly responsible for their erasure, but when he hears that the U6 Namek went so far as to fuse dozens, if not hundreds, of Nameks into Saonel and Pirina just to stand a chance in the tournament, he's very noticably shaken since he can no longer deny the fact that he's going to doom his own kin. The grim face of Kami and Nail showing up as he's unconscious says it all; all three of them despise the situation they're put in, but have to do so to save their own people and friends, even if it means dooming their alternate-universe kin.]]

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* Piccolo fighting Pirina and Saonel. [[spoiler: He was already somewhat uneasy knowing that he has to fight his own kin, people, and be indirectly responsible for their erasure, but when he hears that the U6 Namek went so far as to fuse dozens, if not hundreds, of Nameks into Saonel and Pirina just to stand a chance in the tournament, he's very noticably shaken since he can no longer deny the fact that he's going to doom his own kin.kind. The grim face of Kami and Nail showing up as he's unconscious says it all; all three of them despise the situation they're put in, but have to do so to save their own people and friends, even if it means dooming their alternate-universe kin.]]
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*** [[spoiler:18's response is downplayed but she's very evidently trying not to cry, as this is the second time she's had to watch her brother die.]]

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*** [[spoiler:18's response is downplayed but she's shaking and very evidently trying not to cry, as cry. It's worse when you remember this is the second time she's had to watch her brother die.die and couldn't do anything to stop it.]]

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*** What makes it sadder is how Jiren responded to it, by becoming obsessed with power under the belief that it will bring him peace. He tries to deny it, but his anger at Belmod’s re-telling of his past and 17’s prodding makes it clear he can’t move on past his family and friends’ deaths and the desertion of his fellow former peers. Instead he uses that goal of strength and mindset of might makes right to cover up a wound that clearly never healed.

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*** Worse, there are presumably no [[MakeAWish Dragon]] [[DeathIsCheap Balls]] in Universe 11. Therefore, the deaths are permanent...unless Jiren gets the Super Dragon Balls. Making his reason to get them all the more tear-jerking.
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What makes it sadder is how Jiren responded to it, by becoming obsessed with power under the belief that it will bring him peace. He tries to deny it, but his anger at Belmod’s re-telling of his past and 17’s prodding makes it clear he can’t move on past his family and friends’ deaths and the desertion of his fellow former peers. Instead he uses that goal of strength and mindset of might makes right to cover up a wound that clearly never healed.
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*** [[spoiler:18's response is downplayed but she's very evidently trying not to cry, as this is the second time she's had to watch her brother die.]]
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** [[spoiler: Android #17's HeroicSacrifice. Jiren's ready to finish off Goku and Vegeta when 17 jumps in with a series of barriers. As they start failing, he envelopes the Saiyans in barriers and defiantly takes the blast. There is seemingly nothing left of 17 as Goku and Vegeta vow to avenge the fallen Android.]]

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** [[spoiler: Android #17's HeroicSacrifice. Jiren's ready to finish off Goku and Vegeta when 17 jumps in with a series of barriers. As they start failing, he envelopes envelops the Saiyans in barriers and defiantly takes the blast.blast, blowing himself up in order to negate it. There is seemingly nothing left of 17 as Goku and Vegeta vow to avenge the fallen Android.]]
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** [[spoiler: Android #17's HeroicSacrifice. Jiren's ready to finish off Goku and Vegeta when 17 jumps in with a series of barriers. As they start failing, he envelopes the Saiyans in barriers and defiantly takes the blast. There is seemingly nothing left of 17 as Goku and Vegeta vow to avenge the fallen Android. If there was any sign that ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' was no longer canon, then the fact that this happened is proof unless he comes back.]]

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** [[spoiler: Android #17's HeroicSacrifice. Jiren's ready to finish off Goku and Vegeta when 17 jumps in with a series of barriers. As they start failing, he envelopes the Saiyans in barriers and defiantly takes the blast. There is seemingly nothing left of 17 as Goku and Vegeta vow to avenge the fallen Android. If there was any sign that ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' was no longer canon, then the fact that this happened is proof unless he comes back.]]
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*** What makes it sadder is how Jiren responded to it, by becoming obsessed with power under the belief that it will bring him peace. He tries to deny it, but his anger at Belmod’s re-telling of his past and 17’s prodding makes it clear he can’t move on past his family and friends’ deaths and the desertion of his fellow former peers. Instead he uses that goal of strength and mindset of might makes right to cover up a wound that clearly never healed.
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* Episode 127 gives us dual Tear Jerkers:
** The first is Jiren's origin, in which he was the SoleSurvivor of his village, who was wiped out by a mysterious evil. He was taken in by a warrior and made his teacher and the two and his students hunted down the evil and all but Jiren were killed leaving Jiren the SoleSurvivor ''again''. This lead to his transformation into the mortal stronger than a God of Destruction.
** [[spoiler: Android #17's HeroicSacrifice. Jiren's ready to finish off Goku and Vegeta when 17 jumps in with a series of barriers. As they start failing, he envelopes the Saiyans in barriers and defiantly takes the blast. There is seemingly nothing left of 17 as Goku and Vegeta vow to avenge the fallen Android. If there was any sign that ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' was no longer canon, then the fact that this happened is proof unless he comes back.]]
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** FridgeBrillaince kicks in when you remember Vegeta is talking from ''experience'', as he did the same thing in the Majin Buu saga. That's why he told Toppo he doesn't cast anyone aside ''anymore''.

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** FridgeBrillaince FridgeBrilliance kicks in when you remember Vegeta is talking from ''experience'', as he did the same thing in the Majin Buu saga. That's why he told Toppo he doesn't cast anyone aside ''anymore''.

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** Before that, Frieza going all-out to KickTheDog by taunting, mocking and torturing Toppo before going for the finishing blow. It's possible that the threath of elimination would have pushed him to do the same anyway, but Frieza's behavior at very least helped it.

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** Before that, Frieza going all-out to KickTheDog by taunting, mocking and torturing Toppo before going for the finishing blow. It's possible that the threath threat of elimination would have pushed him to do the same anyway, but Frieza's behavior at very least helped it.it.
* Episode 126 turns Toppo into a JerkassWoobie. He decided to finally leave aside his ideals of justice for the sake of survival, even turning in a God of Destruction. The result? ''[[WhatTheHellhero Vegeta calls him out for this]]''. Toppo, who has been shown from the beginning of the arc to be stressed and nervous about the Tournament, even losing most of his comrades because of bad leadership, decides to go loose... and still loses. The twist? ''Jiren'' calls him pathetic too for leaving said ideals for the sake of power.
** FridgeBrillaince kicks in when you remember Vegeta is talking from ''experience'', as he did the same thing in the Majin Buu saga. That's why he told Toppo he doesn't cast anyone aside ''anymore''.
** The moment Vegeta decides to sacrifice himself in order to take Toppo out. [[spoiler: He does it, and manages to survive.]]

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* Episode 65. It's a subtle thing, but the episode reveals that [[spoiler: Kame House survives in the future, and its sole remaining inhabitant is ''Turtle'']]. While this may seem like a heartwaming fact, you now realize that of the original cast of Manga/DragonBall, [[spoiler: Turtle, Yajirobe, and Android 8 are the ''only survivors'' in this timeline.]] On top of that, Turtle [[spoiler: had to live alone without the presence of Master Roshi, his best friend.]]

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* Episode 65. It's a subtle thing, but the episode reveals that [[spoiler: Kame House survives in the future, and its sole remaining inhabitant is ''Turtle'']]. While this may seem like a heartwaming fact, you now realize that of the original cast of Manga/DragonBall, ''Manga/DragonBall'', [[spoiler: Turtle, Yajirobe, and Android 8 are the ''only survivors'' in this timeline.]] On top of that, Turtle [[spoiler: had to live alone without the presence of Master Roshi, his best friend.]]



* Trunks talking to Vegeta about Future Bulma and how much she wanted to go to the past to meet him is pretty heartbreaking, even if Vegeta was an all out bastard at the time Trunks was born. This act is so touching, it motivates Vegeta set aside his pride [[spoiler: and fuse with Goku to deal with Merged Zamasu]].
-->'''Trunks''': I can't afford to lose my father and the rest you here. It's for my mother's sake as well.\\
'''Vegeta''': ...! For Bulma you mean?\\
'''Trunks''': Yes... Losing you early in this world, mother seemed lonely and missed you very much while she had to raise me on her own. Ever since I met you in the past she never stopped asking me about how you were. To tell you the truth, she was going to travel with me to the past if she wasn't killed by Goku Black. Mother was more eager to see you back in time rather than to escape Goku Black, I think.\\

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* From Chapter 23, Trunks talking to Vegeta about Future Bulma and how much she wanted to go to the past to meet him is pretty heartbreaking, even if Vegeta was an all out all-out bastard at the time Trunks was born. This act is so touching, it motivates Vegeta set aside his pride [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and fuse with Goku to deal with Merged Zamasu]].
-->'''Trunks''': I can't afford to lose my father and the rest of you here. It's for my mother's sake as well.well...\\
'''Vegeta''': ...! '''Vegeta''': For Bulma Bulma, you mean?\\
'''Trunks''': Yes... Losing you early in this world, mother Mother seemed lonely and missed you very much while she had to raise me on her own. Ever since I met you in the past past, she never stopped asking me about how you were. To tell you the truth, she was going to travel with me to the past if she wasn't killed by Goku Black. Mother Mother... was more eager to see you back in time rather than to escape from Goku Black, I think.\\



'''Trunks''': I don't want her to be sad anymore. Never again! For my mother in the past, who is waiting for you to come home--I can't let you die here!

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'''Trunks''': I don't want her to be sad anymore. Never again! For my mother in the past, who is waiting for you to come home--I can't cannot let you die here!



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Let's just get it out of the way up front: the Future Trunks/Goku Black arc of ''Super'' might well be the hardest-hitting story arc, in emotional terms, in the entire history of the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise.

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Let's just get it out of the way up front: the Future Trunks/Goku Black arc of ''Super'' might well be the hardest-hitting story arc, in emotional terms, in the entire history of the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise.
franchise. Trunks is the page image for a reason, the poor guy.
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Let's just get it out of the way up front: the Future Trunks/Goku Black arc of ''Super'' might well be the hardest-hitting story arc, in emotional terms, in the entire history of the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise.
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** Before that, Frieza going all-out to KickTheDog by taunting, mocking and torturing Toppo before going for the finishing blow. It's possible that the threath of elimination would have pushed him to do the same anyway, but Frieza's behavior at very least helped it.

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* At the end of Episode 120, [[spoiler: Paparoni, facing the threat of being eliminated and [[CessationOfExistence him and Universe 3 being erased]] begins to use some sort of DangerousForbiddenTechnique and swears to defeat Universe 7 even if it costs him his life. Considering that the rules explicitly prevent any opponents from being killed by one another but nothing about a fighter dying because of their own actions (as we nearly saw earlier with Roshi), it can only mean that whatever he's about to do might actually end up risking his life. The man is so determined to win and save his Universe that he is willing to personally sacrifice himself just so that everyone else from his Universe can live.]]
** [[spoiler:Sadly, even that amounts to nothing; Android 17 manages to destroy Anilaza's power source and ring out the powerful fusion, thus resulting in Universe 3's erasure.]]

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* At the end of Episode 120, [[spoiler: Paparoni, facing the threat of being eliminated and [[CessationOfExistence him and Universe 3 being erased]] begins to use some sort of DangerousForbiddenTechnique and swears to defeat Universe 7 even if it costs him his life. Considering that the rules explicitly prevent any opponents from being killed by one another but nothing about a fighter dying because of their own actions (as we nearly saw earlier with Roshi), it can only mean that whatever he's about to do might actually end up risking his life. The man is so determined to win and save his Universe that he is willing to personally sacrifice himself just so that everyone else from his Universe can live.]]
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Sadly, even that amounts to nothing; nothing: Android 17 manages to destroy Anilaza's power source and ring out the powerful fusion, thus resulting in Universe 3's erasure.]]
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* Episode 125: Toppo (and Jiren) refer to his decision to [[spoiler: finally become a God of Destruction]] as him "making up [his] mind". The implication is that it's a step that he's been resistant to in the past, possibly because of the duties that it would entail. It's rather sad to see how the tournament has pushed him to finally abandon those principles and reservations for the sake of survival (not helped by how, just prior to doing it, he declares that justice is now worthless).
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** It's arguably even worse in the English dub; Bulma actively ''screams in desperation'' at Trunks to flee [[spoiler:Black]] before [[spoiler:she gets killed]].
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* The announcement of ''Dragon Ball Super'' concluding was given with only eight episodes remaining before its finale. For longtime fans of the series, or newcomers who were just getting into the franchise, it was a sudden and saddening hit to hear the series would be leaving so soon. While apparently there will be something beyond ''Super'', it was still a blow, especially so close on the heels of Tsuru's passing, Ayres' struggles and anxiety about the health of the rest of the cast.

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* The announcement of ''Dragon Ball Super'' going on an indefinite hiatus and possibly concluding was given with only eight episodes remaining before its finale. For longtime fans of the series, or newcomers who were just getting into the franchise, it was a sudden and saddening hit to hear the series would be leaving so soon. While apparently it may yet return or there will be something beyond ''Super'', it was still a blow, especially so close on the heels of Tsuru's passing, Ayres' struggles and anxiety about the health of the rest of the cast.

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