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4th Nov '16 3:08:50 AM doorhandle
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* As mentioned almost the point of parody, HumansAreTheRealMonsters is a very common theme in these works. Ultimately, they should still have some darkness about them,[[GreyAndGreyMorality as should all species,]] but how about having them somewhere north of the lowest moral denominator? Alternately, go ahead and try to anwser the question of ''why'' humans are such bastards, as opposed to just stating it as such.

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* As mentioned almost the point of parody, HumansAreTheRealMonsters is a very common theme in these works. Ultimately, they should still have some darkness about them,[[GreyAndGreyMorality as should all species,]] but how about having them somewhere north of the lowest moral denominator? Alternately, go ahead and try to anwser the question of ''why'' humans are such bastards, as opposed to just stating it as such.
such. Perhaps they were DriventoVillainy by desperation, or [[HumansAreCthulhu perhaps there's just something off about them compared to the other races.]]
4th Nov '16 3:05:39 AM doorhandle
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*And of course, monsters. [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Well, the ones that aren't humans]] [[RunningGag at least]]. Needn't be the focus of a series, as GameOfThrones has proven, but still worth considering. Are they, well, [[AlwaysChaoticEvil monsters]], or [[GreyAndGreyMorality do they have a sense of morals]], or at least "morals?" Are they natural beings or are they [[AnthropomorphicPersonification a reflection of the darkness of]] [[EvilCounterpart human nature so prevalent in the setting?]] [[NecessaryEvil Perhaps they have a vital, if horrific,]] role to play in the very workings of the universe of the setting. And be sure to milk the FaceMonsterTurn and [[TragicMonsters any]] [[MercyKill related]] [[WhatHappenedToMommy tropes]] for all their worth. Regardless, monsters should generally be as twisted, gnarled, horrendous creatures that would fit equally well in a horror film as here. That being said, they can still have an air of dignity, noblity even sorrow about them: a design process used to great effect throughout the DarkSouls series.




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* As mentioned almost the point of parody, HumansAreTheRealMonsters is a very common theme in these works. Ultimately, they should still have some darkness about them,[[GreyAndGreyMorality as should all species,]] but how about having them somewhere north of the lowest moral denominator? Alternately, go ahead and try to anwser the question of ''why'' humans are such bastards, as opposed to just stating it as such.




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**It's Also notable for being one with a pretty good sense of humor...Pitch black humor, of course.
29th Aug '16 9:21:43 PM Dragon573
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. That's probably the most important thing to watch out for in Dark Fantasy. No matter how good you are at making the audience depressed, make sure that they still care about your character. That is, don't invoke dark elements pointlessly, and don't make the characters the reader is supposed to root for, too unlikable (and, presumably, [[DracoInLeatherPants vice versa]]). You don't need to give {{Hope Spot}}s to keep the audience to the end -- sometime they're aware from start that your character won't make it, yet they will continue the story since they want to know how it will end. Angst is to be expected, but try not to put it on [[DeusAngstMachina too]] [[{{Wangst}} thick]].

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. That's probably the most important thing to watch out for in Dark Fantasy. No matter how good you are at making the audience depressed, make sure that they still care about your character. That is, don't invoke dark elements pointlessly, and don't make the characters the reader is supposed to root for, for too unlikable (and, presumably, [[DracoInLeatherPants vice versa]]). You don't need to give {{Hope Spot}}s to keep the audience to the end -- sometime they're aware from start that your character won't make it, yet they will continue the story since they want to know how it will end. Angst is to be expected, but try not to put it on [[DeusAngstMachina too]] [[{{Wangst}} thick]].
31st Dec '15 5:58:50 PM dvorak
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy Roleplay'' certainly deserves a mention, especially in the older editions, before heroics started to leak in from the battlegame.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy Roleplay'' certainly deserves a mention, especially in the older editions, before heroics started to leak in from the battlegame.battlegame.

!!'''The Epic Fails'''
* ''TabletopGame/{{FATAL}}'' relies too much on shock value, and just ends up as disgusting rather than dark.
18th Sep '15 9:56:45 AM babyhenchy1
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and the HBO series ''Series/GameOfThrones'' with AnyoneCanDie in full swing. The list of dead characters is longer than the list of surviving characters.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and the HBO series ''Series/GameOfThrones'' with AnyoneCanDie in full swing. The list of dead characters is longer than the list of surviving characters. It also acts a massive {{Deconstruction}}, picking apart just about every trope and character archetype found in more standard fantasy works to the bone.
8th Jul '14 3:16:35 PM Vazira
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* ''[[Franchise/CthulhuMythos The Cthulhu Mythos]]'' is a great of this genre with [[EvilGod evil gods]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s galore. Whilst magic isn't present, it doesn't mean that the wrong word won't attract unwanted attention. As it is set in our world, it is however lacking in general nastiness.

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* ''[[Franchise/CthulhuMythos The Cthulhu Mythos]]'' ''Franchise/CthulhuMythos'' is a great of this genre with [[EvilGod evil gods]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s galore. Whilst magic isn't present, it doesn't mean that the wrong word won't attract unwanted attention. As it is set in our world, it is however lacking in general nastiness.
8th Jul '14 11:27:08 AM Vazira
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* ''Franchise/TheCthulhuMythos'' is a great of this genre with [[EvilGod evil gods]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s galore. Whilst magic isn't present, it doesn't mean that the wrong word won't attract unwanted attention. As it is set in our world, it is however lacking in general nastiness.

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* ''Franchise/TheCthulhuMythos'' ''[[Franchise/CthulhuMythos The Cthulhu Mythos]]'' is a great of this genre with [[EvilGod evil gods]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s galore. Whilst magic isn't present, it doesn't mean that the wrong word won't attract unwanted attention. As it is set in our world, it is however lacking in general nastiness.
8th Jul '14 11:26:22 AM Vazira
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* ''TheCthulhuMythos'' is a great of this genre with [[EvilGod evil gods]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s galore. Whilst magic isn't present, it doesn't mean that the wrong word won't attract unwanted attention. As it is set in our world, it is however lacking in general nastiness.

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* ''TheCthulhuMythos'' ''Franchise/TheCthulhuMythos'' is a great of this genre with [[EvilGod evil gods]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s galore. Whilst magic isn't present, it doesn't mean that the wrong word won't attract unwanted attention. As it is set in our world, it is however lacking in general nastiness.



* ''{{Warhammer}} Fantasy Roleplay'' certainly deserves a mention, especially in the older editions, before heroics started to leak in from the battlegame.

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* ''{{Warhammer}} ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy Roleplay'' certainly deserves a mention, especially in the older editions, before heroics started to leak in from the battlegame.
3rd Apr '14 8:47:06 AM babyhenchy1
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It's quite easy to look at the Tropes in {{Fantasy}} and twist them to suit the darker tone. Maybe a retelling of a classic fairy tale like Literature/{{Snow White|and the seven dwarfs}} or Literature/SleepingBeauty but adding a darker flavour to the tale? Some AlternateCharacterInterpretation can play into this, a previously good character could quite easily be twisted into a {{Chessmaster}} villain who is simply putting on a [[BitchInSheepsClothing cute and innocent act]] to [[BatmanGambit achieve their own ends]].

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It's quite easy to look at the Tropes in {{Fantasy}} and twist them to suit the darker tone. Maybe a retelling of a classic fairy tale like Literature/{{Snow White|and the seven dwarfs}} or Literature/SleepingBeauty but adding a darker flavour to the tale? Some AlternateCharacterInterpretation can play into this, a previously good character could quite easily be twisted into a {{Chessmaster}} villain who is simply putting on a [[BitchInSheepsClothing cute and innocent act]] to [[BatmanGambit achieve their own ends]].
ends]]. Putting focus on political elements within the fantasy world can also greatly fuel the GreyAndGrayMorality.
3rd Apr '14 8:41:09 AM babyhenchy1
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* ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' and the HBO series GameOfThrones with AnyoneCanDie in full swing. The list of dead characters is longer than the list of surviving characters.

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* ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and the HBO series GameOfThrones ''Series/GameOfThrones'' with AnyoneCanDie in full swing. The list of dead characters is longer than the list of surviving characters.
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