History SoYouWantTo / WriteACrossover

30th Apr '16 6:37:14 AM twilicorn
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* ''[[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} beating Lobo); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] (Franchise/{{Superman}} vs [[ComicBook//IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (Franchise/SpiderMan vs ... the clone ComicBook/{{Superboy}}?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that Franchise/WonderWoman could lift the hammer of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against ComicBook/{{Storm}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).

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* ''[[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} beating Lobo); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] (Franchise/{{Superman}} vs [[ComicBook//IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (Franchise/SpiderMan vs ... the clone ComicBook/{{Superboy}}?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that Franchise/WonderWoman could lift the hammer of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against ComicBook/{{Storm}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).Insane).
* ''WesternAnimation/CartoonAllStarsToTheRescue''. Despite its promise, it was quite {{anvilicious}} and somewhat hypocritical - the special warned against using drugs, though it seems to have been made ''on'' drugs.
17th Jan '16 10:53:04 AM nombretomado
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* The [[PoliceProcedural police procedurals]] ''HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'' and ''LawAndOrder'' crossed over so frequently that after Homocide ended, Det. JustForFun/JohnMunch actually became a character on ''[[LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit Law & Order:SVU]].''

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* The [[PoliceProcedural police procedurals]] ''HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'' ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'' and ''LawAndOrder'' ''Series/LawAndOrder'' crossed over so frequently that after Homocide ended, Det. JustForFun/JohnMunch actually became a character on ''[[LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit ''[[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit Law & Order:SVU]].Order: SVU]].''
31st Dec '15 1:05:15 AM Anddrix
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* ''[[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} beating ComicBook/{{Lobo}}); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] (Franchise/{{Superman}} vs [[ComicBook//IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (Franchise/SpiderMan vs ... the clone ComicBook/{{Superboy}}?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that Franchise/WonderWoman could lift the hammer of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against ComicBook/{{Storm}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).

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* ''[[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} beating ComicBook/{{Lobo}}); Lobo); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] (Franchise/{{Superman}} vs [[ComicBook//IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (Franchise/SpiderMan vs ... the clone ComicBook/{{Superboy}}?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that Franchise/WonderWoman could lift the hammer of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against ComicBook/{{Storm}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).
14th Jun '15 4:16:39 PM nombretomado
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* ''[[{{JLA-Avengers}} JLA/Avengers]]'' gets right everything that ''Marvel vs DC'' (see below) gets wrong. Both franchises are respected right down to established differences in each universe's physics and geography being acknowledged. The difference in power levels between the universes is incoporated into the story instead of being handwaved aside. The story even dares to admit that certain characters would easily defeat others while allowing some of them to be smart enough to ''not'' fight for no reason.

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* ''[[{{JLA-Avengers}} JLA/Avengers]]'' ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' gets right everything that ''Marvel vs DC'' (see below) gets wrong. Both franchises are respected right down to established differences in each universe's physics and geography being acknowledged. The difference in power levels between the universes is incoporated into the story instead of being handwaved aside. The story even dares to admit that certain characters would easily defeat others while allowing some of them to be smart enough to ''not'' fight for no reason.
15th May '15 7:29:29 AM erforce
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* ''TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'', both in comic and {{film}} format, is a rare example of an officially published MassiveMultiplayerCrossover (it helps that most of the central characters are from works that are at least OlderThanRadio, if not older, and thus exist in the [[PublicDomainCharacter public domain]]; works which aren't tend to be alluded to in dialogue), wherein practically every detail is taken from another work in an attempt to put together a cohesive fictional universe for all (or at least as close to all as possible) of human storytelling. The comic is by Creator/AlanMoore and Kevin O'Neal and is well worth a look.
* ''KingdomHearts'' took two works that sounded as if they definitely ''should not'' be crossed with each other (Eastern animation meets Western animation?! ItWillNeverCatchOn!) and managed to make the final result ''great''.

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* ''TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'', ''Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'', both in comic and {{film}} format, is a rare example of an officially published MassiveMultiplayerCrossover (it helps that most of the central characters are from works that are at least OlderThanRadio, if not older, and thus exist in the [[PublicDomainCharacter public domain]]; works which aren't tend to be alluded to in dialogue), wherein practically every detail is taken from another work in an attempt to put together a cohesive fictional universe for all (or at least as close to all as possible) of human storytelling. The comic is by Creator/AlanMoore and Kevin O'Neal and is well worth a look.
* ''KingdomHearts'' ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' took two works that sounded as if they definitely ''should not'' be crossed with each other (Eastern animation meets Western animation?! ItWillNeverCatchOn!) and managed to make the final result ''great''.



* Whilst ''TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' in comic form is widely agreed to belong in the 'Greats' category, most would put the movie based on same squarely in the 'Epic Fails' column. Not only does it water down and dilute the original, it's also in many ways quite a poorly-told story.

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* Whilst ''TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' ''Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' in comic form is widely agreed to belong in the 'Greats' category, most would put the movie based on same squarely in the 'Epic Fails' column. Not only does it water down and dilute the original, it's also in many ways quite a poorly-told story.
23rd Mar '15 3:41:01 PM nombretomado
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* CelebrityParadox - of a sort; a lot of crossovers hinge on the fact that several characters (who are, of course, portrayed by the same performer) look rather alike, which enables them to find links between them; for example, both [[Series/{{Castle}} Richard Castle]] and [[{{Firefly}} Malcolm Reynolds]] are played by the same actor (NathanFillion) and, as the former lives in an earlier time period to another, it's easy to suggest some kind of distant familial relationship or ancestry exists between the two that could be used to fuel the story (for example, Reynolds going back in time and encountering his ancestor).

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* CelebrityParadox - of a sort; a lot of crossovers hinge on the fact that several characters (who are, of course, portrayed by the same performer) look rather alike, which enables them to find links between them; for example, both [[Series/{{Castle}} Richard Castle]] and [[{{Firefly}} [[{{Series/Firefly}} Malcolm Reynolds]] are played by the same actor (NathanFillion) and, as the former lives in an earlier time period to another, it's easy to suggest some kind of distant familial relationship or ancestry exists between the two that could be used to fuel the story (for example, Reynolds going back in time and encountering his ancestor).
27th Feb '15 9:18:02 AM Kuruni
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* ''[[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to SelfDemonstrating/{{Wolverine}} beating SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}}); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] (Franchise/{{Superman}} vs [[SelfDemonstrating/IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (Franchise/SpiderMan vs ... the clone ComicBook/{{Superboy}}?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that Franchise/WonderWoman could lift the hammer of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against ComicBook/{{Storm}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).

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* ''[[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to SelfDemonstrating/{{Wolverine}} ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} beating SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}}); ComicBook/{{Lobo}}); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] (Franchise/{{Superman}} vs [[SelfDemonstrating/IncredibleHulk [[ComicBook//IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (Franchise/SpiderMan vs ... the clone ComicBook/{{Superboy}}?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that Franchise/WonderWoman could lift the hammer of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against ComicBook/{{Storm}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).
27th Feb '15 8:14:15 AM Anicomicgeek
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* ''[[MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[DCUniverse DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to {{Wolverine}} beating {{Lobo}}); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] ({{Superman}} vs [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (SpiderMan vs ... the clone Superboy?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that WonderWoman could lift the hammer of {{Thor}}? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against Storm of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).

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* ''[[MarvelUniverse ''[[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] vs [[DCUniverse [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]]'' has its moments, but is, in many ways, a textbook example of how ''not'' to do a crossover. Missteps included letting fan vote (i.e., popularity) determine who won several of the fights (infamously leading to {{Wolverine}} SelfDemonstrating/{{Wolverine}} beating {{Lobo}}); SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}}); seriously misjudging characters' respective [[PowerCreepPowerSeep power levels]] ({{Superman}} (Franchise/{{Superman}} vs [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk [[SelfDemonstrating/IncredibleHulk The Hulk]]) and/or popularity (SpiderMan (Franchise/SpiderMan vs ... the clone Superboy?); ComicBook/{{Superboy}}?); having any fight they couldn't figure out how to write happen offscreen (Wolverine/Lobo), end inconclusively (Darkseid/Thanos), or be decided by outside factors (Franchise/{{Batman}}/CaptainAmerica, (Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, ends due to a random sewer tidal wave); and downright bizarre disrespect of the characters (suggesting that WonderWoman Franchise/WonderWoman could lift the hammer of {{Thor}}? [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]? Cool. Suggesting that she'd ''need'' it to put up a good fight against Storm of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}}...ComicBook/{{Storm}}... and would lose anyway? Insane).
5th Jan '15 11:20:21 AM nombretomado
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* The novel ''Planet X'' is an officially published (though almost certainty out of [[{{Canon}} continuity]]) crossover between the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} and ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''. (And, yes, it mentions [[PatrickStewart the uncanny resemblance between Xavier and Picard]]... despite being published ''before'' the movie was cast!).

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* The novel ''Planet X'' is an officially published (though almost certainty out of [[{{Canon}} continuity]]) crossover between the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} and ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''. (And, yes, it mentions [[PatrickStewart [[Creator/PatrickStewart the uncanny resemblance between Xavier and Picard]]... despite being published ''before'' the movie was cast!).
8th May '14 1:11:21 PM XFllo
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* '''Overlapping Adventures''': A smaller scale version of the Ultimate Showdown where the characters from one franchise happen to be working on the same (or a similar) problem to the characters from another franchise, only for the two to eventually collide; for example, Detectives Briscoe and Logan from ''LawAndOrder'' might be investigating a murder only for Agents Mulder and Scully from ''TheXFiles'' to be investigating the same crime, or the crew of the [[Franchise/StarTrek USS Enterprise]] might be investigating a suspicious phenomenon on a distant planet while at the same time [[Series/DoctorWho the TARDIS]] has arrived there. Official crossovers on a smaller scale to the Ultimate Showdown might use this.

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* '''Overlapping Adventures''': A smaller scale version of the Ultimate Showdown where the characters from one franchise happen to be working on the same (or a similar) problem to the characters from another franchise, only for the two to eventually collide; for example, Detectives Briscoe and Logan from ''LawAndOrder'' ''Series/LawAndOrder'' might be investigating a murder only for Agents Mulder and Scully from ''TheXFiles'' ''Series/TheXFiles'' to be investigating the same crime, or the crew of the [[Franchise/StarTrek USS Enterprise]] might be investigating a suspicious phenomenon on a distant planet while at the same time [[Series/DoctorWho the TARDIS]] has arrived there. Official crossovers on a smaller scale to the Ultimate Showdown might use this.
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