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* ''Anime/CuteyHoney'' created the template for anime fanservice, for the Warrior MagicalGirl achetype and possibly featured the first ActionGirl main character. If you don't remember it from the early 70s, you'll think it's just another typical high-schooler gone superhero story.

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* ''Anime/CuteyHoney'' created the template for anime fanservice, for the Warrior MagicalGirl achetype and possibly featured the first ActionGirl main character. If you don't remember it from the early 70s, you'll think it's just another typical high-schooler gone superhero story.probably not find it too innovative.



* ''Franchise/DragonBall'' for that matter. It seems horribly cliché now (even more so than ''Fist Of The North Star'', if only because it was copied more, or at least more directly) but it was refreshing at the time. One of the big ones is the IdiotHero, which has been done to death in Shonen, but Goku was one of the first, though predated by the title character of ''Manga/{{Kinnikuman}}'' (and besides that Goku is more naive than stupid. That's TheThemeParkVersion for you - the real version will take forever to read.)
* ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' also seems horribly cliché, but keep in mind it more or less helped create many of the shonen tropes that exist today. Along with ''Manga/DragonBall'', many people cite it as a GatewaySeries or an inspiration for other Shonen creations.
* Creator/HayaoMiyazaki. Many of his movies have been copied so extensively by both anime and manga that people complain about them being "cliché". No, [[Anime/CastleInTheSky Laputa]] isn't just "another ancient civilization on a floating island", it is THE ancient civilization on a floating island. Ironically enough, even though it was this movie that really started Japan's fascination of highly advanced, extinct ancient civilizations, both the name and the concept of the floating island of Laputa comes from ''Literature/GulliversTravels'', [[OlderThanTheyThink written more than two centuries earlier]].

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* ''Franchise/DragonBall'' for that matter. It seems horribly cliché now (even more so than ''Fist Of The North Star'', if only because it was copied more, or at least more directly) but it was refreshing original at the time. One of the big ones is the IdiotHero, which has been done to death in Shonen, but Goku was one of the first, though predated by the title character of ''Manga/{{Kinnikuman}}'' (and besides that Goku is more naive than stupid. That's TheThemeParkVersion for you - the real version will take forever to read.)
* ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' also seems horribly cliché, but keep in mind it more or less helped create many of the shonen tropes that exist today. Along with ''Manga/DragonBall'', many people cite it as a GatewaySeries or an inspiration for other Shonen creations.
* Creator/HayaoMiyazaki. Many of his movies have been copied so extensively by both anime and manga that people complain about them being "cliché".might not realize just how original they once were. No, [[Anime/CastleInTheSky Laputa]] isn't just "another ancient civilization on a floating island", it is THE ancient civilization on a floating island. Ironically enough, even though it was this movie that really started Japan's fascination of highly advanced, extinct ancient civilizations, both the name and the concept of the floating island of Laputa comes from ''Literature/GulliversTravels'', [[OlderThanTheyThink written more than two centuries earlier]].



** Another {{magical girl}} series to suffer from this and which predates ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' is ''Anime/MajokkoMegChan'', from 1974. It introduced many now-common elements to the genre and was groundbreaking as far as the genre was concerned. Nowadays, since the tropes it introduced have been done repeatedly since, it might nt seem so special.

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** Another {{magical girl}} series to suffer from this and which predates ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' is ''Anime/MajokkoMegChan'', from 1974. It introduced many now-common elements to the genre and was groundbreaking as far as the genre was concerned. Nowadays, since the tropes it introduced have been done repeatedly since, it might nt not seem so special.too innovative.
6th Jun '16 4:59:32 AM WhatArtThee
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* ''Anime/CuteyHoney'' will make you cringe, until you realize it created the template for anime fanservice, for the Warrior MagicalGirl achetype and possibly featured the first ActionGirl main character. If you don't remember it from the early 70s, you'll think it's just another typical high-schooler gone superhero story.
* ''Manga/DokiDokiSchoolHours'' got hit by this hard. The manga is one of the early examples of the "WackyHomeroom"-format, up to and including a childish teacher, and likely formed the inspiration for other works like ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'' and ''Manga/LuckyStar''. Alas, the anime got released ''after'' those other series, which made a lot of viewers cringe at the "tired and old" jokes.

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* ''Anime/CuteyHoney'' will make you cringe, until you realize it created the template for anime fanservice, for the Warrior MagicalGirl achetype and possibly featured the first ActionGirl main character. If you don't remember it from the early 70s, you'll think it's just another typical high-schooler gone superhero story.
* ''Manga/DokiDokiSchoolHours'' got hit by this hard. The manga is one of the early examples of the "WackyHomeroom"-format, up to and including a childish teacher, and likely formed the inspiration for other works like ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'' and ''Manga/LuckyStar''. Alas, the anime got released ''after'' those other series, which made a lot of viewers cringe at the "tired and old" jokes.However, today, it might not seem so.



* ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' seems like horribly cliché shonen, but keep in mind it more or less helped create many of the shonen tropes that exist today. Along with ''Manga/DragonBall'', many people cite it as a GatewaySeries or an inspiration for other Shonen creations.
* ''Anime/GhostInTheShell''. The English dub of the original most likely comes off as {{Narm}}y to most modern-day viewers, but in the 90s it was considered a major step forward for anime dubbing, featuring a reasonably faithful translation of the source material, correct pronunciations of Japanese names, and semi-believable voice acting. Incidentally this also true for the original German dub of the movie, so much in fact it later got a new dub along with ''SAC'', taking the German cast for ''Series/StargateSG1'' under contract.
** Since the standards for anime dub voice acting have improved so much in recent years, many dubs that were considered huge steps forward in quality for their time have become increasingly unpopular among modern viewers. Examples include ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. An even better example would be the ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' franchise. Back in the day (around 1994, to be exact), the use of union actors combined with clever dub scripts was considered a groundbreaking development in the world of anime dubbing. While many people still look back fondly on the dub even now, more level-headed viewers without a NostalgiaFilter will notice the dubs' miscast actors and actresses, awkward delivery and overall poor acting quality in comparisons to modern dubs for anime like ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''.

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* ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' seems like also seems horribly cliché shonen, cliché, but keep in mind it more or less helped create many of the shonen tropes that exist today. Along with ''Manga/DragonBall'', many people cite it as a GatewaySeries or an inspiration for other Shonen creations. \n* ''Anime/GhostInTheShell''. The English dub of the original most likely comes off as {{Narm}}y to most modern-day viewers, but in the 90s it was considered a major step forward for anime dubbing, featuring a reasonably faithful translation of the source material, correct pronunciations of Japanese names, and semi-believable voice acting. Incidentally this also true for the original German dub of the movie, so much in fact it later got a new dub along with ''SAC'', taking the German cast for ''Series/StargateSG1'' under contract.\n** Since the standards for anime dub voice acting have improved so much in recent years, many dubs that were considered huge steps forward in quality for their time have become increasingly unpopular among modern viewers. Examples include ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. An even better example would be the ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' franchise. Back in the day (around 1994, to be exact), the use of union actors combined with clever dub scripts was considered a groundbreaking development in the world of anime dubbing. While many people still look back fondly on the dub even now, more level-headed viewers without a NostalgiaFilter will notice the dubs' miscast actors and actresses, awkward delivery and overall poor acting quality in comparisons to modern dubs for anime like ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''.



** ''Anime/SailorMoon'' itself gets this as well, as it created a sub-genre, and in many countries also contributed to make Anime popular in the first place. When compared [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica to]] [[Manga/TokyoMewMew some]] [[Franchise/MaiHiME more]] [[Anime/PrettyCure modern]] [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha shows]], it can look overly cheesy, {{Filler}}-ridden, and low-budget.
** Another {{magical girl}} series to suffer from this and which predates ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' is ''Anime/MajokkoMegChan'', from 1974. It introduced many now-common elements to the genre and was groundbreaking as far as the genre was concerned. Nowadays, since the tropes it introduced have been done repeatedly since, it isn't highly regarded.

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** ''Anime/SailorMoon'' itself gets this as well, as it created a sub-genre, and in many countries also contributed to make Anime popular in the first place. When compared [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica to]] [[Manga/TokyoMewMew some]] [[Franchise/MaiHiME more]] [[Anime/PrettyCure modern]] [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha shows]], it can look overly cheesy, {{Filler}}-ridden, and low-budget.\n
** Another {{magical girl}} series to suffer from this and which predates ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' is ''Anime/MajokkoMegChan'', from 1974. It introduced many now-common elements to the genre and was groundbreaking as far as the genre was concerned. Nowadays, since the tropes it introduced have been done repeatedly since, it isn't highly regarded. might nt seem so special.



* ''Anime/MazingerZ'', the TropeCodifier for SuperRobot shows, never got that much love outside of Japan, due to the fact that it was usually picked up sometime ''after'' successive shows, such as ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'' and even ''[[Anime/UFORoboGrendizer Grendizer]]'' got popular, leading to ''Mazinger'' often being called a ripoff of its own derivatives.
** Similarly, while ''Mazinger Z'' and ''Manga/GetterRobo'' were hugely influential and are often seen as the grandfathers of the SuperRobot genre, the shows themselves often get criticized by modern fans for being really repetitive and boring by modern standards. The treatment of women, while par for the course in the 70's, also comes under fire from many modern anime fans.
* Likewise, ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'', the TropeMaker for RealRobot shows, never quite caught on in the States, airing after the explosively popular ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing''. Even many fans of Universal Century timeline, the continuity of ''Mobile Suit Gundam'', prefer the sequel series ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' or the more modern OVA series.



** Partially due to the above reasons, the third film in the ''Rebuild'' saga was rewritten from the grounds up to outdo the original series in the ShootTheShaggyDog department. The end result wasn't as well received as the previous two. New viewers were dismayed by the blatancy and shoehorning of drama, while the hardcore fanbase had an outcry over the misaimed shock value. Like the sequels to ''Film/TheMatrix'', 3.33 played up the aspects that were supposed to surprise and shock the viewer as if they were just as groundbreaking as when the original was released in 1995. However, due to various anime series that responded to everything that the original ''Evangelion'' stated, or refuted the original show's cynicism, the third film didn't have the expected emotional impact, and when analyzed, turned out not to actually be all that thoughtful due to the rushed plot and so many TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt situations the viewers won't be surprised by anymore.



** ''Haruhi Suzumiya'' itself has fallen into this pattern in recent years; with its plot and jokes being [[FollowTheLeader copied by many other series to cash in]], the WolverinePublicity of the character, and the decline in popularity following [[SeasonalRot the Endless 8]]. Other MundaneFantastic SliceOfLife anime series, such as ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh''; have remained well-regarded in the time since their original airing.

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** ''Haruhi Suzumiya'' itself has fallen into this pattern in recent years; with has had its plot and jokes being [[FollowTheLeader copied by many other series to cash in]], the WolverinePublicity of the character, and the decline in popularity following [[SeasonalRot the Endless 8]]. Other MundaneFantastic SliceOfLife anime series, such as ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh''; have remained well-regarded in the time since their original airing.in]].



* ''Anime/ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman'' is the TropeCodifier for nearly all giant robot AND FiveManBand tropes. It started the entire Sentai genre. Today, it's just seen as another combinable mecha show.

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* ''Anime/ScienceNinjaTeamGatchaman'' is the TropeCodifier for nearly all giant robot AND FiveManBand tropes. It started the entire Sentai genre. Today, it's just seen as another combinable mecha show.hard to understand how unique it was at the time.



* The {{Tsundere}} archetype as a whole is slowly starting to go down this path. There are several reasons for this. The {{Tsundere}} archetype was originally created to make certain female characters different from the usual submissive styled Japanese female characters in not just anime, but traditional Japanese stories as well. Originally, the character itself was just someone that had a harsh outer personality with a soft happy center, but was usually never outwardly violent. However, by the Early 2000's the aforementioned Manga/LoveHina took this concept to the point where people associate with them calling someone they were secretly in love with names, becoming increasingly jealous at any other female contact, and paired with an IdiotHero who would never notice her feelings, making her even more aggressive. This in turn, caused many, many authors to copy this formula in both Harem and other series that had some form of romance, and run it into the ground. Nowadays, this style of female {{Tsundere}} is seen as not just tired and unoriginal (If not written well) but also heaped with loads of UnfortunateImplications in their [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale treatment of male characters]].

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* The {{Tsundere}} archetype as a whole is slowly starting to go down this path. There are several reasons for this. The {{Tsundere}} archetype was originally created to make certain female characters different from the usual submissive styled Japanese female characters in not just anime, but traditional Japanese stories as well. Originally, the character itself was just someone that had a harsh outer personality with a soft happy center, but was usually never outwardly violent. However, by the Early 2000's the aforementioned Manga/LoveHina took this concept to the point where people associate with them calling someone they were secretly in love with names, becoming increasingly jealous at any other female contact, and paired with an IdiotHero who would never notice her feelings, making her even more aggressive. This in turn, caused many, many authors to copy this formula in both Harem and other series that had some form of romance, and run it into the ground. Nowadays, this style of female {{Tsundere}} is seen as not just tired and unoriginal (If not written well) but also heaped with loads of UnfortunateImplications in their [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale treatment of male characters]].unoriginal.
8th May '16 2:47:18 PM AsamisaKY
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** ''Anime/SailorMoon'' itself gets this as well, as it created a sub-genre, and in many countries also contributed to make Anime popular in the first place. When compared to [[Manga/TokyoMewMew some]] [[Franchise/MaiHiME more]] [[Anime/PrettyCure modern]] [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha shows]], it can look overly cheesy, {{Filler}}-ridden, and low-budget.

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** ''Anime/SailorMoon'' itself gets this as well, as it created a sub-genre, and in many countries also contributed to make Anime popular in the first place. When compared to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica to]] [[Manga/TokyoMewMew some]] [[Franchise/MaiHiME more]] [[Anime/PrettyCure modern]] [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha shows]], it can look overly cheesy, {{Filler}}-ridden, and low-budget.
7th Mar '16 11:34:01 AM GrammarNavi
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* ''Anime/MazingerZ'', the TropeCodifier for SuperRobot shows, never got that much love outside of Japan, due to the fact that it was usually picked up sometime ''after'' successive shows, such as ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'' and even ''Anime/{{Grendizer}}'' got popular, leading to ''Mazinger'' often being called a ripoff of its own derivatives.

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* ''Anime/MazingerZ'', the TropeCodifier for SuperRobot shows, never got that much love outside of Japan, due to the fact that it was usually picked up sometime ''after'' successive shows, such as ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'' and even ''Anime/{{Grendizer}}'' ''[[Anime/UFORoboGrendizer Grendizer]]'' got popular, leading to ''Mazinger'' often being called a ripoff of its own derivatives.
4th Feb '16 9:26:24 PM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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* ''Anime/GhostInTheShell''. The English dub of the original most likely comes off as {{Narm}}y to most modern-day viewers, but in the 90s it was considered a major step forward for anime dubbing, featuring a reasonably faithful translation of the source material, correct pronunciations of Japanese names, and semi-believable voice acting. Incidentially this also true for the original German dub of the movie, so much in fact it later got a new dub along with ''SAC'', taking the German cast for ''Series/StargateSG1'' under contract.

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* ''Anime/GhostInTheShell''. The English dub of the original most likely comes off as {{Narm}}y to most modern-day viewers, but in the 90s it was considered a major step forward for anime dubbing, featuring a reasonably faithful translation of the source material, correct pronunciations of Japanese names, and semi-believable voice acting. Incidentially Incidentally this also true for the original German dub of the movie, so much in fact it later got a new dub along with ''SAC'', taking the German cast for ''Series/StargateSG1'' under contract.



* The Tsundere archetype as a whole is slowly starting to go down this path. There are several reasons for this. The Tsundere archetype was originally created to make certain female characters different from the usual submissive styled Japanese female characters in not just anime, but traditional Japanese stories as well. Originally, the character itself was just someone that had a harsh outer personality with a soft happy center, but was usually never outwardly violent. However, by the Early 2000's the aforementioned Love Hina took this concept to the point where people asscioate with them calling someone they were secretly in love with names, becoming increasingly jealous at any other female contact, and paired with an IdiotHero who would never notice her feelings, making her even more aggressive. This in turn, caused many, many authors to copy this formula in both Harem and other series that had some form of romance, and run it into the ground. Nowadays, this style of female Tsundere is seen as not just tired and unoriginal (If not written well) but also heaped with loads of UnfortunateImplications in their [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale treatment of male characters]].

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* The Tsundere {{Tsundere}} archetype as a whole is slowly starting to go down this path. There are several reasons for this. The Tsundere {{Tsundere}} archetype was originally created to make certain female characters different from the usual submissive styled Japanese female characters in not just anime, but traditional Japanese stories as well. Originally, the character itself was just someone that had a harsh outer personality with a soft happy center, but was usually never outwardly violent. However, by the Early 2000's the aforementioned Love Hina Manga/LoveHina took this concept to the point where people asscioate associate with them calling someone they were secretly in love with names, becoming increasingly jealous at any other female contact, and paired with an IdiotHero who would never notice her feelings, making her even more aggressive. This in turn, caused many, many authors to copy this formula in both Harem and other series that had some form of romance, and run it into the ground. Nowadays, this style of female Tsundere {{Tsundere}} is seen as not just tired and unoriginal (If not written well) but also heaped with loads of UnfortunateImplications in their [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale treatment of male characters]].
29th Dec '15 6:57:02 AM zerohelix
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** ''Manga/AstroBoy'' is THE Anime and Manga. It was the first truly popular piece in not only Japan, but also in the States, where it was one of the first Anime we had ever received. It's hard to articulate how much Astro Boy means to the medium; it's on par with ''Mickey Mouse'' in how important of an animated work it is.
** To the modern-day reader, ''The Mysterious Underground Men'' is just another relatively obscure Osamu Tezuka manga from his early days. No masterpiece, but still a fun book to spend half an hour or so reading. But to the people that read it when it first came out in 1948, it was shocking to see a manga with some genuinely tragic moments. Not only was Tezuka bringing tragedy to manga, he was doing it by using plots where [[AnyoneCanDie main characters died]] in a medium where this was unheard of until now.



* ''Manga/AstroBoy'' is THE Anime and Manga. It was the first truly popular piece in not only Japan, but also in the States, where it was one of the first Animes we had ever received. It's hard to articulate how much Astro Boy means to the medium; it's on par with MICKEY in how important of an animated work it is.



* To the modern-day reader, ''The Mysterious Underground Men'' is just another relatively obscure Osamu Tezuka manga from his early days. No masterpiece, but still a fun book to spend half an hour or so reading. But to the people that read it when it first came out in 1948, it was shocking to see a manga with some genuinely tragic moments. Not only was Tezuka bringing tragedy to manga, he was doing it by using plots where [[AnyoneCanDie main characters died]] in a medium where this was unheard of until now.
22nd Dec '15 8:02:01 PM Kid
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* The Tsundere archetype as a whole is slowly starting to go down this path. There are several reasons for this. The Tsundere archetype was originally created to make certain female charcters be different from the usual submissive styled Japanese female characters in not just anime, but traditional Japanese stories as well. Originally, the character itself was just someone that had a harsh outer personality with a soft happy center, but was usually never outwardly violent. However, by the Early 2000's the aforementioned above Love Hina took this concept to the point where people asscioate with them calling someone they were secretly in love with names, becoming increasingly jealous at any other female contact, and paired with an IdiotHero who would never notice her feelings, making her even more aggressive. This in turn, caused many, many authors to copy this formula in both Harem and other series that had some form of romance, and run it into the ground. Nowadays, this style of female Tsundere is seen as not just tired and unoriginal (If not written well) but also heaped with loads of UnfortunateImplications in their [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale treatment on male characters]].

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* The Tsundere archetype as a whole is slowly starting to go down this path. There are several reasons for this. The Tsundere archetype was originally created to make certain female charcters be characters different from the usual submissive styled Japanese female characters in not just anime, but traditional Japanese stories as well. Originally, the character itself was just someone that had a harsh outer personality with a soft happy center, but was usually never outwardly violent. However, by the Early 2000's the aforementioned above Love Hina took this concept to the point where people asscioate with them calling someone they were secretly in love with names, becoming increasingly jealous at any other female contact, and paired with an IdiotHero who would never notice her feelings, making her even more aggressive. This in turn, caused many, many authors to copy this formula in both Harem and other series that had some form of romance, and run it into the ground. Nowadays, this style of female Tsundere is seen as not just tired and unoriginal (If not written well) but also heaped with loads of UnfortunateImplications in their [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale treatment on of male characters]].
22nd Dec '15 7:55:21 PM Kid
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** And content-wise, they were the first ones to publish high school romance shoujo manga. Pretty much all of what little shoujo had been published in the USA up until that point had featured some element of adventure or fantasy that the publishers hoped would appeal to male readers, but Tokyopop published high-school romances like ''Manga/KareKano'' and ''Manga/MarmaladeBoy'', that had no supernatural or adventure elements and were clearly intended for girls (but good enough to be read by anyone regardless of gender). In short, Tokyopop was the first American manga publisher to fully accept that manga didn't have to pretend to be American comic books. Nowadays every publisher does this, so Tokyopop's editions come off as cheap-looking compared to, say Viz's and Kodansha's manga. Especially the early Tokyopop releases. The translations of Sailor Moon and Magic Knight Rayearth were absolutely painful with spelling and character name inconsistencies galore. And the fact that it's unflipped is just AsbestosFreeCereal now that it goes without saying that you don't flip your manga.

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** And content-wise, they were the first ones to publish high school romance shoujo manga. Pretty much all of what little shoujo had been published in the USA up until that point had featured some element of adventure or fantasy that the publishers hoped would appeal to male readers, but Tokyopop published high-school romances like ''Manga/KareKano'' and ''Manga/MarmaladeBoy'', that had no supernatural or adventure elements and were clearly intended for girls (but good enough to be read by anyone regardless of gender). In short, Tokyopop was the first American manga publisher to fully accept that manga didn't have to pretend to be American comic books. Nowadays every publisher does this, so Tokyopop's editions come off as cheap-looking compared to, say say, Viz's and Kodansha's manga. Especially the early Tokyopop releases. The translations of Sailor Moon and Magic Knight Rayearth were absolutely painful with spelling and character name inconsistencies galore. And the fact that it's unflipped is just AsbestosFreeCereal now that it goes without saying that you don't flip your manga.
16th Dec '15 10:40:12 AM GovernorExplosion
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventures'' has been homaged, parodied, referenced, and exposed to so much MemeticMutation from various other anime and video games that it can sometimes come off as a bit predictable, and some of the most infamous moments have become less shocking (especially when you WatchItForTheMeme). It's important to remember the manga started in ''1986'', and a lot of the {{Manga/Shonen Jump}} series that share elements with it, such as ''{{Manga/YuGiOh}}'' and ''{{Manga/Yu Yu Hakusho}}'' were inspired by it, not the other way around.

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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventures'' ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' has been homaged, parodied, referenced, and exposed to so much MemeticMutation from various other anime and video games that it can sometimes come off as a bit predictable, and some of the most infamous moments have become less shocking (especially when you WatchItForTheMeme). It's important to remember the manga started in ''1986'', and a lot of the {{Manga/Shonen Jump}} series that share elements with it, such as ''{{Manga/YuGiOh}}'' and ''{{Manga/Yu Yu Hakusho}}'' were inspired by it, not the other way around.
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