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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Symbiote Peter gives him one.
-->'''Harry:''' You gonna kill me like you killed my father?\\
'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from me. He loved me.\\
'''Peter:''' [[LittleNo No]]. [[BrutalHonesty He despised you]]. [[DisappointedInYou You were an embarrassment for him.]] Look at that [[LoserSonOfLoserDad little Goblin junior.]] Gonna cry?
29. Characters/BronyDAndDOtherCharacters
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: How much of the town view him.
30. SonOfAWhore
If the Son of a Whore is lucky, their mother was a HookerWithAHeartOfGold. In less fortunate cases she may have been a PredatoryProstitute. The trope is adjacent but distinct from the SingleMomStripper, a mother who became a sex worker to feed her child, but only after giving birth to them, and who usually knows the child's father well. The Son of a Whore may be a HeroicBastard, a BastardBastard, or anywhere in between; at the very least, he'll have DisappearedDad or LoserSonOfLoserDad issues to work through.
31. Characters/BackToTheFutureMcFlyFamily
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: In the first film, Strickland sneers that Marty comes from a long line of SLACKERS. (Which is unfair, as he's clearly more outgoing than George ever was in the original timeline.)
32. VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: [[spoiler:Satoshi and Satoko, because their parents supported the dam project]]
33. LoserProtagonist
* Has gotten divorced in a setting where there's a great stigma against divorce. In some settings, this may also extend to [[LoserSonOfLoserDad children of divorce]].
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Symbiote Peter gives him one.
-->'''Harry:''' You gonna kill me like you killed my father?\\
'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from me. He loved me.\\
'''Peter:''' [[LittleNo No]]. [[BrutalHonesty He despised you]]. [[DisappointedInYou You were an embarrassment for him.]] Look at that [[LoserSonOfLoserDad little Goblin junior.]] Gonna cry?
29. Characters/BronyDAndDOtherCharacters
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: How much of the town view him.
30. SonOfAWhore
If the Son of a Whore is lucky, their mother was a HookerWithAHeartOfGold. In less fortunate cases she may have been a PredatoryProstitute. The trope is adjacent but distinct from the SingleMomStripper, a mother who became a sex worker to feed her child, but only after giving birth to them, and who usually knows the child's father well. The Son of a Whore may be a HeroicBastard, a BastardBastard, or anywhere in between; at the very least, he'll have DisappearedDad or LoserSonOfLoserDad issues to work through.
31. Characters/BackToTheFutureMcFlyFamily
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: In the first film, Strickland sneers that Marty comes from a long line of SLACKERS. (Which is unfair, as he's clearly more outgoing than George ever was in the original timeline.)
32. VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: [[spoiler:Satoshi and Satoko, because their parents supported the dam project]]
33. LoserProtagonist
* Has gotten divorced in a setting where there's a great stigma against divorce. In some settings, this may also extend to [[LoserSonOfLoserDad children of divorce]].
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Symbiote Peter gives him one.
-->'''Harry:''' You gonna kill me like you killed my father?\\
'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from me. He loved me.\\
'''Peter:''' [[LittleNo No]]. [[BrutalHonesty He despised you]]. [[DisappointedInYou You were an embarrassment for him.]] Look at that [[LoserSonOfLoserDad little Goblin junior.]] Gonna cry?
29. Characters/BronyDAndDOtherCharacters
* LoserSonOfLoserDad:
30. SonOfAWhore
If the Son
31. Characters/BackToTheFutureMcFlyFamily
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: In the first film, Strickland sneers that Marty comes from a long line of SLACKERS. (Which is unfair, as he's clearly more outgoing than George ever was in the original timeline.)
32. VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: [[spoiler:Satoshi and Satoko, because their parents supported the dam project]]
33. LoserProtagonist
* Has gotten divorced in a
16. Characters/SpiderManTrilogyMainCharacters
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Symbiote Peter gives him one.
-->'''Harry:''' You gonna kill me like you killed my father?\\
'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from me. He loved me.\\
'''Peter:''' [[LittleNo No]]. [[BrutalHonesty He despised you]]. [[DisappointedInYou You were an embarrassment for him.]] Look at that [[LoserSonOfLoserDad little Goblin junior.]] Gonna cry?
17. Funny/SaintsRowTheThird
* The closing ceremony for Genkibowl VII, where the Boss is giving their speech clad in the Sad Panda suit from Sad Panda Skyblazing and their voice digitally scrambled:
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
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* Is the LoserSonOfLoserDad, or [[SinsOfOurFathers the descendant of a person who did something bad]].
6. Characters/StrangerThingsMainCast
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Steve calls him this almost verbatim before their fight in Season 1.
* Is the LoserSonOfLoserDad, or [[SinsOfOurFathers the descendant of a person who did something bad]].
6. Characters/StrangerThingsMainCast
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Steve calls him this almost verbatim before their fight in Season 1.
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5. LoserProtagonist
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Series/Lupin2021
* LoserSonOfLoserDad:Steve calls Raoul becomes incensed when Hubert tells him this almost verbatim before their fight in Season 1.that Assane is a loser son, while Babakar was his loser dad.
* Is the LoserSonOfLoserDad, or [[SinsOfOurFathers the descendant of a person who did something bad]].
6. Characters/StrangerThingsMainCast
* LoserSonOfLoserDad:
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: How much of the town view him.
30. SonOfAWhore
If the Son of a Whore is lucky, their mother was a HookerWithAHeartOfGold. In less fortunate cases she may have been a PredatoryProstitute. The trope is adjacent but distinct from the SingleMomStripper, a mother who became a sex worker to feed her child, but only after giving birth to them, and who usually knows the child's father well. The Son of a Whore may be a HeroicBastard, a BastardBastard, or anywhere in between; at the very least, he'll have DisappearedDad or LoserSonOfLoserDad issues to work through.
31. Characters/BackToTheFutureMcFlyFamily
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: In the first film, Strickland sneers that Marty comes from a long line of SLACKERS. (Which is unfair, as he's clearly more outgoing than George ever was in the original timeline.)
32. VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: [[spoiler:Satoshi and Satoko, because their parents supported the dam project]]
33. LoserProtagonist
* Has gotten divorced in a setting where there's a great stigma against divorce. In some settings, this may also extend to [[LoserSonOfLoserDad children of divorce]].
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1. WMG/ArthurianLegend
John the Revelator was totally Merlin the Wizard.
* How does this gel with Merlin being Satan's son?
* There's a good explanation for Merlin the Druid being the advisor of Arthur the Christian King: the incomplete Romanization of Britain. In the Lloegyr historical region (whose name resembles that of Logres, Arthur's proper kingdom from which he ruled the whole Britain), Britons had abandoned their old customs and adopted the Roman ones, while outside it the Britons kept their old customs, probably including the religion. After the Roman retreat, an High King coming from the Celtic Britons would find difficult at best to be obeyed by the Romanized Britons, and at the same time there was little way for someone of Roman culture to make himself obeyed by the Celtic Britons... Unless the Romanized ruler has a well-respected Celtic advisor, like Merlin. And in fact, the only kings of sub-Roman Britain with a decent measure of success were Uther Pendragon (Roman son of a Roman ''emperor'') and his son Arthur, who had Merlin as advisor. The kings before Uther had: abandoned Britain to fight a war (Constantine II, Roman emperor as Constantine III); been manipulated by their advisers before being poisoned (Constans, eldest son of Constantine II and aspiring Roman emperor); been deposed by their own son (Vortigern, who was deposed by his son Vortimer after a last fuck-up with the revolt of the Saxon mercenaries); been poisoned by their own family (Vortimer, killed by his Saxon stepmother on Vortigern's behalf); been burned alive in their fortress (Vortigern again, courtesy of Constans little brothers Aurelianus Ambrosius and Uther); been poisoned by political opponents (Aurelianus Ambrosius, assassinated by loyalists of Vortigern's other sons while Uther defeated said sons and collected Merlin as advisor). And after Merlin disappeared, we had: Arthur killed in battle by his own son, who rebelled as soon as he looked the other way to go at war in Gaul (either against Lancelot or the Eastern Roman Empire demanding tribute); Constantine III, of both Celtic and Romanized descent, ruled decently for a while, but either abdicated and became a monk or received divine punishment after killing Mordred's sons in two churches; Aurelius Conanus (Roman) was a murderer, usurper and adulter, and got killed for it; Vortiporius was a LoserSonOfLoserDad who committed unspecified depravities and corrupted his own daughter, and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership only managed to stay king because he had kicked the Saxons out of the island]]; the depraved king Malgo, who failed to make his son King of the Britons; and Keredic, who was such an unmitigated disaster that the Britons (that by this time appears to have culturally unified) allies themselves with the returning Anglo-Saxons and the ''Vandals'' (called from Spain) to get rid of him.
2.Characters/FutureDiaryDiaryHolders
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Only Kurou is far more pathetic and cowardly than Yuki will ever be because while Yuki is a wimp, he's willing to do anything for Yuno and his family, while his own father abandons him to die with Yuno in a building that's breaking down and kills his wife just to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.
3. Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS03E14HeartOfStone
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Nog is scared that he'll become this trope, knowing that Rom's life hasn't turned out so great.
4. Recap/BirdsOfAFeatherS5E13TheBeautifulGame
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Darryl tells Tracey he always pushed himself so he wouldn't turn out like his dad, Les.
5-6. Characters/AstroCityHeroes
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Brian wants to be a superhero to avoid this trope.
* [[LoserSonOfLoserDad Loser Daughter of Loser Dad]]: She has no intention of turning out this way.
7. Characters/ImTheEvilLordOfAnIntergalacticEmpire
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Cliff like his father, is known to be a selfish, incompetent and MoneyDumb wastrel who ran the family territory into the ground.
8. MyGreatestSecondChance
* One episode of ''Series/{{Motive}}'' {{Deconstruction}}s this: An [[AbusiveParents abusive mother]] learns that her [[LoserSonOfLoserDad son]]'s girlfriend is pregnant, and latches onto the notion that her grandchild could be this for her. However, the girlfriend refuses, calling out her selfishness: rather than treating her son right, she'd rather start over with a new kid. This leads to [[spoiler:the mother becoming the VictimOfTheWeek, murdered by the girlfriend in order to protect her child's adoptive family]].
9. Characters/TheSimpsonsHomerSimpson
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: As Bart points out, Homer is on both ends of this {{trope}}, being the son of the loser Abe, and having a loser son in Bart.
10. Funny/SaintsRowTheThird
* The closing ceremony for Genkibowl VII, where the Boss is giving their speech clad in the Sad Panda suit from Sad Panda Skyblazing and their voice digitally scrambled:
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
11. Quotes/TookALevelInJerkass
->''Patty and Selma hate Homer, and who could blame them? (Would you want your baby sister married to him?) But they’ve always been fond, even proud, of Lisa. Here they’re basically saying to Marge: you married a fat loser [[LoserSonOfLoserDad and so will your precious daughter,]] ha ha. They want Lisa to marry someone like Homer just to teach Marge a lesson or something, and it’s utterly contrary to everything we know about them.''
-->-- '''''Dead Homer Society''''' [[https://web.archive.org/web/20210118204056/http://deadhomersociety.com/tag/luca/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', "Luca$"
12. Characters/OrangeIsTheNewBlackMainCharacters
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Gender-flipped with her and Aleida. Aleida neglected Daya and her siblings growing up. And Daya aspired to become something better than her poverty-stricken life and drug-selling mother. Only to end up in prison herself for the exact same crimes.
13. ICouldaBeenAContender
* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
14. Characters/TheGoodPlaceNeighborhood
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: As it turns out, Jason's father is a dim-witted criminal, and in a more horrifying twist, ''Jason'' is the more intelligent of the two.
15. Characters/FamilyGuyTheGriffinFamily
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Chris is the geeky, unpopular son of his alcoholic, also-obese-and-slow-witted father Peter.
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1. WMG/ArthurianLegend
John the Revelator was totally Merlin the Wizard.
* How does this gel with Merlin being Satan's son?
* There's a good explanation for Merlin the Druid being the advisor of Arthur the Christian King: the incomplete Romanization of Britain. In the Lloegyr historical region (whose name resembles that of Logres, Arthur's proper kingdom from which he ruled the whole Britain), Britons had abandoned their old customs and adopted the Roman ones, while outside it the Britons kept their old customs, probably including the religion. After the Roman retreat, an High King coming from the Celtic Britons would find difficult at best to be obeyed by the Romanized Britons, and at the same time there was little way for someone of Roman culture to make himself obeyed by the Celtic Britons... Unless the Romanized ruler has a well-respected Celtic advisor, like Merlin. And in fact, the only kings of sub-Roman Britain with a decent measure of success were Uther Pendragon (Roman son of a Roman ''emperor'') and his son Arthur, who had Merlin as advisor. The kings before Uther had: abandoned Britain to fight a war (Constantine II, Roman emperor as Constantine III); been manipulated by their advisers before being poisoned (Constans, eldest son of Constantine II and aspiring Roman emperor); been deposed by their own son (Vortigern, who was deposed by his son Vortimer after a last fuck-up with the revolt of the Saxon mercenaries); been poisoned by their own family (Vortimer, killed by his Saxon stepmother on Vortigern's behalf); been burned alive in their fortress (Vortigern again, courtesy of Constans little brothers Aurelianus Ambrosius and Uther); been poisoned by political opponents (Aurelianus Ambrosius, assassinated by loyalists of Vortigern's other sons while Uther defeated said sons and collected Merlin as advisor). And after Merlin disappeared, we had: Arthur killed in battle by his own son, who rebelled as soon as he looked the other way to go at war in Gaul (either against Lancelot or the Eastern Roman Empire demanding tribute); Constantine III, of both Celtic and Romanized descent, ruled decently for a while, but either abdicated and became a monk or received divine punishment after killing Mordred's sons in two churches; Aurelius Conanus (Roman) was a murderer, usurper and adulter, and got killed for it; Vortiporius was a LoserSonOfLoserDad who committed unspecified depravities and corrupted his own daughter, and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership only managed to stay king because he had kicked the Saxons out of the island]]; the depraved king Malgo, who failed to make his son King of the Britons; and Keredic, who was such an unmitigated disaster that the Britons (that by this time appears to have culturally unified) allies themselves with the returning Anglo-Saxons and the ''Vandals'' (called from Spain) to get rid of him.
2.Characters/FutureDiaryDiaryHolders
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Only Kurou is far more pathetic and cowardly than Yuki will ever be because while Yuki is a wimp, he's willing to do anything for Yuno and his family, while his own father abandons him to die with Yuno in a building that's breaking down and kills his wife just to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.
3. Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS03E14HeartOfStone
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Nog is scared that he'll become this trope, knowing that Rom's life hasn't turned out so great.
4. Recap/BirdsOfAFeatherS5E13TheBeautifulGame
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Darryl tells Tracey he always pushed himself so he wouldn't turn out like his dad, Les.
5-6. Characters/AstroCityHeroes
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Brian wants to be a superhero to avoid this trope.
* [[LoserSonOfLoserDad Loser Daughter of Loser Dad]]: She has no intention of turning out this way.
7. Characters/ImTheEvilLordOfAnIntergalacticEmpire
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Cliff like his father, is known to be a selfish, incompetent and MoneyDumb wastrel who ran the family territory into the ground.
8. MyGreatestSecondChance
* One episode of ''Series/{{Motive}}'' {{Deconstruction}}s this: An [[AbusiveParents abusive mother]] learns that her [[LoserSonOfLoserDad son]]'s girlfriend is pregnant, and latches onto the notion that her grandchild could be this for her. However, the girlfriend refuses, calling out her selfishness: rather than treating her son right, she'd rather start over with a new kid. This leads to [[spoiler:the mother becoming the VictimOfTheWeek, murdered by the girlfriend in order to protect her child's adoptive family]].
9. Characters/TheSimpsonsHomerSimpson
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: As Bart points out, Homer is on both ends of this {{trope}}, being the son of the loser Abe, and having a loser son in Bart.
10. Funny/SaintsRowTheThird
* The closing ceremony for Genkibowl VII, where the Boss is giving their speech clad in the Sad Panda suit from Sad Panda Skyblazing and their voice digitally scrambled:
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
11. Quotes/TookALevelInJerkass
->''Patty and Selma hate Homer, and who could blame them? (Would you want your baby sister married to him?) But they’ve always been fond, even proud, of Lisa. Here they’re basically saying to Marge: you married a fat loser [[LoserSonOfLoserDad and so will your precious daughter,]] ha ha. They want Lisa to marry someone like Homer just to teach Marge a lesson or something, and it’s utterly contrary to everything we know about them.''
-->-- '''''Dead Homer Society''''' [[https://web.archive.org/web/20210118204056/http://deadhomersociety.com/tag/luca/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', "Luca$"
12. Characters/OrangeIsTheNewBlackMainCharacters
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Gender-flipped with her and Aleida. Aleida neglected Daya and her siblings growing up. And Daya aspired to become something better than her poverty-stricken life and drug-selling mother. Only to end up in prison herself for the exact same crimes.
13. ICouldaBeenAContender
* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
14. Characters/TheGoodPlaceNeighborhood
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: As it turns out, Jason's father is a dim-witted criminal, and in a more horrifying twist, ''Jason'' is the more intelligent of the two.
15. Characters/FamilyGuyTheGriffinFamily
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Chris is the geeky, unpopular son of his alcoholic, also-obese-and-slow-witted father Peter.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: She’s treated this way by many people in the cave, along with the rest of her siblings. They're dismissed as a lost cause and looked upon disdain for being constantly dirty and begging for food, and their lazy, freeloading parents are some of the lowest-ranking and least-popular members of the Ninth Cave. However, Ayla points out that it's hardly their fault that they have such awful parents and that Lanoga is doing her best to look after her younger brothers and sisters. Ayla is able to shame some of the neighbours into helping Lanoga care for her family by informing them that in the Clan no child would be allowed to starve, essentially implying they're worse than the "flatheads" they dismiss as mere animals.[[/folder]]
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad[[note]]Gossip trope.[[/note]]
3. Characters/{{Graduados}}
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Runs away from [=ThunderClan=] precisely because of this reason.
1. Sandbox/NRLEPMoralityWithExplanations
* LoserSonOfLoserDad
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad[[note]]Gossip trope.[[/note]]
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Runs away
-->'''Harry:''' You gonna kill me like you killed my father?\\
'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from
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John the Revelator was totally Merlin the Wizard.
* How does this gel with Merlin being Satan's son?
* There's a good explanation for Merlin the Druid being the advisor of Arthur the Christian King: the incomplete Romanization of Britain. In the Lloegyr historical region (whose name resembles that of Logres, Arthur's proper kingdom from which he ruled the whole Britain), Britons had abandoned their old customs and adopted the Roman ones, while outside it the Britons kept their old customs, probably including the religion. After the Roman retreat, an High King coming from the Celtic Britons would find difficult at best to be obeyed by the Romanized Britons, and at the same time there was little way for someone of Roman culture to make himself obeyed by the Celtic Britons... Unless the Romanized ruler has a well-respected Celtic advisor, like Merlin. And in fact, the only kings of sub-Roman Britain with a decent measure of success were Uther Pendragon (Roman son of a Roman ''emperor'') and his son Arthur, who had Merlin as advisor. The kings before Uther had: abandoned Britain to fight a war (Constantine II, Roman emperor as Constantine III); been manipulated by their advisers before being poisoned (Constans, eldest son of Constantine II and aspiring Roman emperor); been deposed by their own son (Vortigern, who was deposed by his son Vortimer after a last fuck-up with the revolt of the Saxon mercenaries); been poisoned by their own family (Vortimer, killed by his Saxon stepmother on Vortigern's behalf); been burned alive in their fortress (Vortigern again, courtesy of Constans little brothers Aurelianus Ambrosius and Uther); been poisoned by political opponents (Aurelianus Ambrosius, assassinated by loyalists of Vortigern's other sons while Uther defeated said sons and collected Merlin as advisor). And after Merlin disappeared, we had: Arthur killed in battle by his own son, who rebelled as soon as he looked the other way to go at war in Gaul (either against Lancelot or the Eastern Roman Empire demanding tribute); Constantine III, of both Celtic and Romanized descent, ruled decently for a while, but either abdicated and became a monk or received divine punishment after killing Mordred's sons in two churches; Aurelius Conanus (Roman) was a murderer, usurper and adulter, and got killed for it; Vortiporius was a LoserSonOfLoserDad who committed unspecified depravities and corrupted his own daughter, and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership only managed to stay king because he had kicked the Saxons out of the island]]; the depraved king Malgo, who failed to make his son King of the Britons; and Keredic, who was such an unmitigated disaster that the Britons (that by this time appears to have culturally unified) allies themselves with the returning Anglo-Saxons and the ''Vandals'' (called from Spain) to get rid of him.
2.Characters/FutureDiaryDiaryHolders
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Only Kurou is far more pathetic and cowardly than Yuki will ever be because while Yuki is a wimp, he's willing to do anything for Yuno and his family, while his own father abandons him to die with Yuno in a building that's breaking down and kills his wife just to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.
3. Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS03E14HeartOfStone
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Nog is scared that he'll become this trope, knowing that Rom's life hasn't turned out so great.
4. Recap/BirdsOfAFeatherS5E13TheBeautifulGame
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Darryl tells Tracey he always pushed himself so he wouldn't turn out like his dad, Les.
5-6. Characters/AstroCityHeroes
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Brian wants to be a superhero to avoid this trope.
* [[LoserSonOfLoserDad Loser Daughter of Loser Dad]]: She has no intention of turning out this way.
7. Characters/ImTheEvilLordOfAnIntergalacticEmpire
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Cliff like his father, is known to be a selfish, incompetent and MoneyDumb wastrel who ran the family territory into the ground.
8. MyGreatestSecondChance
* One episode of ''Series/{{Motive}}'' {{Deconstruction}}s this: An [[AbusiveParents abusive mother]] learns that her [[LoserSonOfLoserDad son]]'s girlfriend is pregnant, and latches onto the notion that her grandchild could be this for her. However, the girlfriend refuses, calling out her selfishness: rather than treating her son right, she'd rather start over with a new kid. This leads to [[spoiler:the mother becoming the VictimOfTheWeek, murdered by the girlfriend in order to protect her child's adoptive family]].
9. Characters/TheSimpsonsHomerSimpson
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: As Bart points out, Homer is on both ends of this {{trope}}, being the son of the loser Abe, and having a loser son in Bart.
10. Funny/SaintsRowTheThird
* The closing ceremony for Genkibowl VII, where the Boss is giving their speech clad in the Sad Panda suit from Sad Panda Skyblazing and their voice digitally scrambled:
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
11. Quotes/TookALevelInJerkass
->''Patty and Selma hate Homer, and who could blame them? (Would you want your baby sister married to him?) But they’ve always been fond, even proud, of Lisa. Here they’re basically saying to Marge: you married a fat loser [[LoserSonOfLoserDad and so will your precious daughter,]] ha ha. They want Lisa to marry someone like Homer just to teach Marge a lesson or something, and it’s utterly contrary to everything we know about them.''
-->-- '''''Dead Homer Society''''' [[https://web.archive.org/web/20210118204056/http://deadhomersociety.com/tag/luca/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', "Luca$"
12. Characters/OrangeIsTheNewBlackMainCharacters
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Gender-flipped with her and Aleida. Aleida neglected Daya and her siblings growing up. And Daya aspired to become something better than her poverty-stricken life and drug-selling mother. Only to end up in prison herself for the exact same crimes.
13. ICouldaBeenAContender
* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
14. Characters/TheGoodPlaceNeighborhood
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: As it turns out, Jason's father is a dim-witted criminal, and in a more horrifying twist, ''Jason'' is the more intelligent of the two.
15. Characters/FamilyGuyTheGriffinFamily
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Chris is the geeky, unpopular son of his alcoholic, also-obese-and-slow-witted father Peter.
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Symbiote Peter gives him one.
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'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from me. He loved me.\\
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad[[note]]Gossip trope.[[/note]]
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Runs away from
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* EvilParentsWantGoodKids:
** [[spoiler:Fujiko]] is another object of this. [[spoiler:In a flashback, her [[AlmostDeadGuy dying mother]], also implied to have been a murderer, has just enough strength to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture reassure Fujiko]] that--despite Hatsuyo Kosaka's [[LoserSonOfLoserDad insistence otherwise]]--Fujiko can turn out [[SuperiorSuccessor better than her]].]]
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* LoserProtagonist: A movie franchise detailing an unpopular dude [[AtrociousAlias nicknamed Loser]].
** LoserBuysLunch: Loser is too incompetent to pay for his bill at a restaurant and gets hired to WorkOffTheDebt.
** LoserLeavesTown: In the sequel movie, Loser has become so infamous for his bad service that he's run out of town. But what kind of place would want him as a resident?
** LoserGetsTheGirl: In his new hometown, Loser meets a girl who's perfect for him... except she doesn't like him back. Has a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.
** LoserSonOfLoserDad: They get married and have kids. However, Loser's son is ridiculed for his similarity to his dad, who has to shape up to save his son's reputation.
* EvilParentsWantGoodKids:
** [[spoiler:Fujiko]] is another object of this. [[spoiler:In a flashback, her [[AlmostDeadGuy dying mother]], also implied to have been a murderer, has just enough strength to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture reassure Fujiko]] that--despite Hatsuyo Kosaka's [[LoserSonOfLoserDad insistence otherwise]]--Fujiko can turn out [[SuperiorSuccessor better than her]].]]
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* LoserProtagonist: A movie franchise detailing an unpopular dude [[AtrociousAlias nicknamed Loser]].
** LoserBuysLunch: Loser is too incompetent to pay for his bill at a restaurant and gets hired to WorkOffTheDebt.
** LoserLeavesTown: In the sequel movie, Loser has become so infamous for his bad service that he's run out of town. But what kind of place would want him as a resident?
** LoserGetsTheGirl: In his new hometown, Loser meets a girl who's perfect for him... except she doesn't like him back. Has a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.
** LoserSonOfLoserDad: They get married and have kids. However, Loser's son is ridiculed for his similarity to his dad, who has to shape up to save his son's reputation.
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* LoserProtagonist: A movie franchise detailing an unpopular dude [[AtrociousAlias nicknamed Loser]].
** LoserBuysLunch: Loser is too incompetent to pay for his bill at a restaurant and gets hired to WorkOffTheDebt.
** LoserLeavesTown: In the sequel movie, Loser has become so infamous for his bad service that he's run out of town. But what kind of place would want him as a resident?
** LoserGetsTheGirl: In his new hometown, Loser meets a girl who's perfect for him... except she doesn't like him back. Has a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.
** LoserSonOfLoserDad: They get married and have kids. However, Loser's son is ridiculed for his similarity to his dad, who has to shape up to save his son's reputation.
* LoserProtagonist: A movie franchise detailing an unpopular dude [[AtrociousAlias nicknamed Loser]].
** LoserBuysLunch: Loser is too incompetent to pay for his bill at a restaurant and gets hired to WorkOffTheDebt.
** LoserLeavesTown: In the sequel movie, Loser has become so infamous for his bad service that he's run out of town. But what kind of place would want him as a resident?
** LoserGetsTheGirl: In his new hometown, Loser meets a girl who's perfect for him... except she doesn't like him back. Has a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.
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* EvilParentsWantGoodKids:
** [[spoiler:Fujiko]] is another object of this. [[spoiler:In a flashback, her [[AlmostDeadGuy dying mother]], also implied to have been a murderer, has just enough strength to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture reassure Fujiko]] that--despite Hatsuyo Kosaka's [[LoserSonOfLoserDad insistence otherwise]]--Fujiko can turn out [[SuperiorSuccessor better than her]].]]
* EvilParentsWantGoodKids:
** [[spoiler:Fujiko]] is another object of this. [[spoiler:In a flashback, her [[AlmostDeadGuy dying mother]], also implied to have been a murderer, has just enough strength to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture reassure Fujiko]] that--despite Hatsuyo Kosaka's [[LoserSonOfLoserDad insistence otherwise]]--Fujiko can turn out [[SuperiorSuccessor better than her]].]]
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** [[spoiler:Fujiko]] is another object of this. [[spoiler:In a flashback, her [[AlmostDeadGuy dying mother]], also implied to have been a murderer, has just enough strength to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture reassure Fujiko]] that--despite Hatsuyo Kosaka's [[LoserSonOfLoserDad insistence otherwise]]--Fujiko can turn out [[SuperiorSuccessor better than her]].]]
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Symbiote Peter gives him one.
-->'''Harry:''' You gonna kill me like you killed my father?\\
'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from me. He loved me.\\
'''Peter:''' [[LittleNo No]]. [[BrutalHonesty He despised you]]. [[DisappointedInYou You were an embarrassment for him.]] Look at that [[LoserSonOfLoserDad little Goblin junior.]] Gonna cry?
** [[spoiler:Fujiko]] is another object of this. [[spoiler:In a flashback, her [[AlmostDeadGuy dying mother]], also implied to have been a murderer, has just enough strength to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture reassure Fujiko]] that--despite Hatsuyo Kosaka's [[LoserSonOfLoserDad insistence otherwise]]--Fujiko can turn out [[SuperiorSuccessor better than her]].]]
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Symbiote Peter gives him one.
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'''Peter:''' I'm done trying to convince you.\\
'''Harry:''' You took him from me. He loved me.\\
'''Peter:''' [[LittleNo No]]. [[BrutalHonesty He despised you]]. [[DisappointedInYou You were an embarrassment for him.]] Look at that [[LoserSonOfLoserDad little Goblin junior.]] Gonna cry?
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: He’s generally treated this way by most of the cave.
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: She’s treated this way by many people in the cave, along with the rest of her siblings. They're dismissed as a lost cause and looked upon disdain for being constantly dirty and begging for food, and their lazy, freeloading parents are some of the lowest-ranking and least-popular members of the Ninth Cave. However, Ayla points out that it's hardly their fault that they have such awful parents and that Lanoga is doing her best to look after her younger brothers and sisters. Ayla is able to shame some of the neighbours into helping Lanoga care for her family by informing them that in the Clan no child would be allowed to starve, essentially implying they're worse than the "flatheads" they dismiss as mere animals.[[/folder]]
4. Characters/WarriorCatsShadowClanLeadersAndDeputies
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Runs away from [=ThunderClan=] precisely because of this reason.
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Runs away from [=ThunderClan=] precisely because of this reason.
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* LoserProtagonist: A movie franchise detailing an unpopular dude [[AtrociousAlias nicknamed Loser]].
** LoserBuysLunch: Loser is too incompetent to pay for his bill at a restaurant and gets hired to WorkOffTheDebt.
** LoserLeavesTown: In the sequel movie, Loser has become so infamous for his bad service that he's run out of town. But what kind of place would want him as a resident?
** LoserGetsTheGirl: In his new hometown, Loser meets a girl who's perfect for him... except she doesn't like him back. Has a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.
** LoserSonOfLoserDad: They get married and have kids. However, Loser's son is ridiculed for his similarity to his dad, who has to shape up to save his son's reputation.
** LoserBuysLunch: Loser is too incompetent to pay for his bill at a restaurant and gets hired to WorkOffTheDebt.
** LoserLeavesTown: In the sequel movie, Loser has become so infamous for his bad service that he's run out of town. But what kind of place would want him as a resident?
** LoserGetsTheGirl: In his new hometown, Loser meets a girl who's perfect for him... except she doesn't like him back. Has a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.
** LoserSonOfLoserDad: They get married and have kids. However, Loser's son is ridiculed for his similarity to his dad, who has to shape up to save his son's reputation.
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* ''Literature/NoGameNoLife'':
** At the end of the Great War, Tet, the newly ascended God of Play, gives one to the Exceeds who warred against each other and left their world in ruins in a war that no one won.
--->'''Tet''': You creatures who have fought with violence, blood and death, who built a tower of corpses that rises to the sky, and who still call yourselves wise, tell me this- [[ArmorPiercingQuestion what makes you different from wild animals]]?
** Sora gives one to Steph when she gets angry with him over noticing that her opponent was cheating but not calling the opponent out on it, resulting in Steph losing all her possessions. The last remark hits hard considering that Steph is the granddaughter of the previous king, who has a reputation for being a fool.
--->'''Sora''': {{Let me get this straight}} you got totally hustled, lost all your worldly possessions, [[NeverMyFault and somehow that's supposed to be our fault]]? Hah! Whatever, toots.\\
'''Steph''': WHAT WAS THAT?!\\
'''Sora''': Not only that, when you get called on it, you completely flip out and start yapping like a little dog. Pull it together! You're an emotional time bomb; too unstable to think logically and too scared to take any risks. Let me ask you- does crazy run in your family, or are you just a natural loser?\\
'''Steph''': You take that back... right... now. Say what you want about me, but [[BerserkButton I will not tolerate]] such insults against ''my grandfather!'' You take that back right this instant!\\
'''Sora''': Well, I'm right about that explosive temper; [[LoserSonOfLoserDad a foolish king and a foolish granddaughter.]]\\
'''Steph''': I SAID THAT'S ENOUGH! ''(slaps Sora, who's protected by the Ten Covenants' prohibition against violence)''
** At the end of the Great War, Tet, the newly ascended God of Play, gives one to the Exceeds who warred against each other and left their world in ruins in a war that no one won.
--->'''Tet''': You creatures who have fought with violence, blood and death, who built a tower of corpses that rises to the sky, and who still call yourselves wise, tell me this- [[ArmorPiercingQuestion what makes you different from wild animals]]?
** Sora gives one to Steph when she gets angry with him over noticing that her opponent was cheating but not calling the opponent out on it, resulting in Steph losing all her possessions. The last remark hits hard considering that Steph is the granddaughter of the previous king, who has a reputation for being a fool.
--->'''Sora''': {{Let me get this straight}} you got totally hustled, lost all your worldly possessions, [[NeverMyFault and somehow that's supposed to be our fault]]? Hah! Whatever, toots.\\
'''Steph''': WHAT WAS THAT?!\\
'''Sora''': Not only that, when you get called on it, you completely flip out and start yapping like a little dog. Pull it together! You're an emotional time bomb; too unstable to think logically and too scared to take any risks. Let me ask you- does crazy run in your family, or are you just a natural loser?\\
'''Steph''': You take that back... right... now. Say what you want about me, but [[BerserkButton I will not tolerate]] such insults against ''my grandfather!'' You take that back right this instant!\\
'''Sora''': Well, I'm right about that explosive temper; [[LoserSonOfLoserDad a foolish king and a foolish granddaughter.]]\\
'''Steph''': I SAID THAT'S ENOUGH! ''(slaps Sora, who's protected by the Ten Covenants' prohibition against violence)''
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Chris is the geeky, unpopular son of his alcoholic, also-obese-and-slow-witted father Peter.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Gender-flipped with her and Aleida. Aleida neglected Daya and her siblings growing up. And Daya aspired to become something better than her poverty-stricken life and drug-selling mother. Only to end up in prison herself for the exact same crimes.
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* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad[[note]]Gossip trope.[[/note]]
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* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
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* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: You deserve to be hated because of what your parents have done.
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* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
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* The closing ceremony for Genkibowl VII, where the Boss is giving their speech clad in the Sad Panda suit from Sad Panda Skyblazing and their voice digitally scrambled:
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
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->''Patty and Selma hate Homer, and who could blame them? (Would you want your baby sister married to him?) But they’ve always been fond, even proud, of Lisa. Here they’re basically saying to Marge: you married a fat loser [[LoserSonOfLoserDad and so will your precious daughter,]] ha ha. They want Lisa to marry someone like Homer just to teach Marge a lesson or something, and it’s utterly contrary to everything we know about them.''
-->-- '''''Dead Homer Society''''' [[https://web.archive.org/web/20210118204056/http://deadhomersociety.com/tag/luca/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', "Luca$"
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-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
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->''Patty and Selma hate Homer, and who could blame them? (Would you want your baby sister married to him?) But they’ve always been fond, even proud, of Lisa. Here they’re basically saying to Marge: you married a fat loser [[LoserSonOfLoserDad and so will your precious daughter,]] ha ha. They want Lisa to marry someone like Homer just to teach Marge a lesson or something, and it’s utterly contrary to everything we know about them.''
-->-- '''''Dead Homer Society''''' [[http://deadhomersociety.com/tag/luca/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', "Luca$"
* The closing ceremony for Genkibowl VII, where the Boss is giving their speech clad in the Sad Panda suit from Sad Panda Skyblazing and their voice digitally scrambled:
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
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->''Patty and Selma hate Homer, and who could blame them? (Would you want your baby sister married to him?) But they’ve always been fond, even proud, of Lisa. Here they’re basically saying to Marge: you married a fat loser [[LoserSonOfLoserDad and so will your precious daughter,]] ha ha. They want Lisa to marry someone like Homer just to teach Marge a lesson or something, and it’s utterly contrary to everything we know about them.''
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* The closing ceremony for Genkibowl VII, where the Boss is giving their speech clad in the Sad Panda suit from Sad Panda Skyblazing and their voice digitally scrambled:
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
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->''Patty and Selma hate Homer, and who could blame them? (Would you want your baby sister married to him?) But they’ve always been fond, even proud, of Lisa. Here they’re basically saying to Marge: you married a fat loser [[LoserSonOfLoserDad and so will your precious daughter,]] ha ha. They want Lisa to marry someone like Homer just to teach Marge a lesson or something, and it’s utterly contrary to everything we know about them.''
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-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
'''Boss''': You gotta follow your dreams, kids. Because if you don't, you know what happens? [[LoserSonOfLoserDad You're gonna become your parents]]. How fucking depressing would that be? Think about it.
-->'''Tammy''': You know - over the years, you've had your doubters. Some have said you were just riding on the coattails of more accomplished people. Is this vindication for you?\\
'''Boss''': Absolutely. Not just for me but for all the kids out there watching at home thinking that they'll never make something of themselves. Yeah, I just wanna tell those kids - no matter what, work hard and anything is possible.\\
'''Tammy''': What a great message to end on! Well Zach, I --\\
'''Boss''': Because I spent years honing my craft. Murdering, robbing, assaulting, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment more murdering]], light treason, [[RuleOfThree murdering again]] - all so that when I got my shot - I would be ready.\\
'''Tammy''': That's, uh, enlightening, but --\\
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-->-- '''''Dead Homer Society''''' [[http://deadhomersociety.com/tag/luca/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', "Luca$"
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* Rom from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' is an absolute genius when it comes to engineering and could have very easily thrived had he pursued a career in that field, but instead chose to follow [[ProudMerchantRace Ferengi]] cultural expectations and become a businessman (for which he has zero talent). This is what motivates his son Nog to join Starfleet, because he knows that he isn't cut out to be a businessman either and [[LoserSonOfLoserDad doesn't want to make the same mistake]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted for Rom as well, as Nog's example makes him realize he can strive for better too and he steps away from business to start a career in engineering. Just before the [[GrandFinale series finale]] he's appointed to be the new Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance, so that he can oversee the transition of Ferengi society into a democracy.]]
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Zigzagged; many people automatically distrust him for being DIO's son, and even the [[BigGood Speedwagon Foundation]] is wary of him, which he completely understands. However, Kakyoin assures that he is a completely different person from DIO despite having inherited some of his father's traits, and while the Speedwagon Foundation may distrust him as a group, there are some individuals like Kakyoin himself who don't. Jotaro Kujo also shared the same fears about him, but according to Polnareff, he apparently changed his mind later on at some point.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Brian wants to be a superhero to avoid this trope.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Cliff like his father, is known to be a selfish, incompetent and MoneyDumb wastrel who ran the family territory into the ground.
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* One episode of ''Series/{{Motive}}'' {{Deconstruction}}s this: An [[AbusiveParents abusive mother]] learns that her [[LoserSonOfLoserDad son]]'s girlfriend is pregnant, and latches onto the notion that her grandchild could be this for her. However, the girlfriend refuses, calling out her selfishness: rather than treating her son right, she'd rather start over with a new kid. This leads to [[spoiler:the mother becoming the VictimOfTheWeek, murdered by the girlfriend in order to protect her child's adoptive family]].
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Previously, Fuma lives under the notoriety of his father's failed legacy to climb to the top of O-50's mountain peak. By the time he becomes an Ultraman, he resort to embrace the title of "Champion of the Wind".
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: The average Gha'alian seems to not think much better of him then they do his father.
* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Fights to escape being ostracized as a result of [[LoserSonOfLoserDad his]] [[NonHumanHumanoidHybrid heritage]].
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Brian wants to be a superhero to avoid this trope.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Cliff like his father, is known to be a selfish, incompetent and MoneyDumb wastrel who ran the family territory into the ground.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Previously, Fuma lives under the notoriety of his father's failed legacy to climb to the top of O-50's mountain peak. By the time he becomes an Ultraman, he resort to embrace the title of "Champion of the Wind".
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: The average Gha'alian seems to not think much better of him then they do his father.
* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Fights to escape being ostracized as a result of [[LoserSonOfLoserDad his]] [[NonHumanHumanoidHybrid heritage]].
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Is treated like this, which he greatly resents as someone who [[AntagonisticOffspring hates his father]] even more than the general populace does.
16. MyGreatestSecondChance
* One episode of ''Series/{{Motive}}'' {{Deconstruction}}s this: An [[AbusiveParents abusive mother]] learns that her [[LoserSonOfLoserDad son]]'s girlfriend is pregnant, and latches onto the notion that her grandchild could be this for her. However, the girlfriend refuses, calling out her selfishness: rather than treating her son right, she'd rather start over with a new kid. This leads to [[spoiler:the mother becoming the VictimOfTheWeek, murdered by the girlfriend in order to protect her child's adoptive family]].
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Nog is scared that he'll become this trope, knowing that Rom's life hasn't turned out so great.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Darryl tells Tracey he always pushed himself so he wouldn't turn out like his dad, Les.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Only Kurou is far more pathetic and cowardly than Yuki will ever be because while Yuki is a wimp, he's willing to do anything for Yuno and his family, while his own father abandons him to die with Yuno in a building that's breaking down and kills his wife just to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.
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* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Nog is scared that he'll become this trope, knowing that Rom's life hasn't turned out so great.
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** [[OmnicidalManiac King Xestobium]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Princess Apterus]], and [[MadScientist Dr. Toxikon]] would go on a rampage against the Dragons and Changelings... and were born entirely as a result of the eons-old grudge between the two species, with neither side wanting to let it go despite the pointless harm and destruction being done to themselves as a result of their grudge. This would prompt Thorax and Ember's choice to forgive the divine leaders of Changelingkind and Dragonkind, as they rightly believed doing anything else would only perpetuate the cycle of racism, violence, and death, and understandably were both sick of it.
** Queen Eclaira wouldn't have become the goddess she is today if her foalhood kingdom actually looked past her mediocre looks and loved her for who she is. Instead, they scorned and abused her for being 'ugly' by their standards, turning her into an utterly miserable foal who eventually gained the desire to become the FairestOfThemAll. And for their mistreatment of Eclaira, [[LaserGuidedKarma they would become the first among the many a vengeful Eclaira would devour to sate her own ravenous hunger and vanity]]. It's revealed Prince Dissonant Tune had a role in Eclaira's rise - he happened upon Eclaira's kingdom as it was sinking into corruption and, disgusted, proceeded to tempt them to see if even a single person would rise above their growing vanity. Dissonant's efforts failed, and the kingdom was later devoured by a vengeful Eclaira armed with dark sorceries taught by Overlord Vondor.
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* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Fights to escape being ostracized as a result of [[LoserSonOfLoserDad his]] [[NonHumanHumanoidHybrid heritage]].
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Is treated like this, which he greatly resents as someone who [[AntagonisticOffspring hates his father]] even more than the general populace does.
* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Fights to escape being ostracized as a result of [[LoserSonOfLoserDad his]] [[NonHumanHumanoidHybrid heritage]].
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John the Revelator was totally Merlin the Wizard.
* How does this gel with Merlin being Satan's son?
* There's a good explanation for Merlin the Druid being the advisor of Arthur the Christian King: the incomplete Romanization of Britain. In the Lloegyr historical region (whose name resembles that of Logres, Arthur's proper kingdom from which he ruled the whole Britain), Britons had abandoned their old customs and adopted the Roman ones, while outside it the Britons kept their old customs, probably including the religion. After the Roman retreat, an High King coming from the Celtic Britons would find difficult at best to be obeyed by the Romanized Britons, and at the same time there was little way for someone of Roman culture to make himself obeyed by the Celtic Britons... Unless the Romanized ruler has a well-respected Celtic advisor, like Merlin. And in fact, the only kings of sub-Roman Britain with a decent measure of success were Uther Pendragon (Roman son of a Roman ''emperor'') and his son Arthur, who had Merlin as advisor. The kings before Uther had: abandoned Britain to fight a war (Constantine II, Roman emperor as Constantine III); been manipulated by their advisers before being poisoned (Constans, eldest son of Constantine II and aspiring Roman emperor); been deposed by their own son (Vortigern, who was deposed by his son Vortimer after a last fuck-up with the revolt of the Saxon mercenaries); been poisoned by their own family (Vortimer, killed by his Saxon stepmother on Vortigern's behalf); been burned alive in their fortress (Vortigern again, courtesy of Constans little brothers Aurelianus Ambrosius and Uther); been poisoned by political opponents (Aurelianus Ambrosius, assassinated by loyalists of Vortigern's other sons while Uther defeated said sons and collected Merlin as advisor). And after Merlin disappeared, we had: Arthur killed in battle by his own son, who rebelled as soon as he looked the other way to go at war in Gaul (either against Lancelot or the Eastern Roman Empire demanding tribute); Constantine III, of both Celtic and Romanized descent, ruled decently for a while, but either abdicated and became a monk or received divine punishment after killing Mordred's sons in two churches; Aurelius Conanus (Roman) was a murderer, usurper and adulter, and got killed for it; Vortiporius was a LoserSonOfLoserDad who committed unspecified depravities and corrupted his own daughter, and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership only managed to stay king because he had kicked the Saxons out of the island]]; the depraved king Malgo, who failed to make his son King of the Britons; and Keredic, who was such an unmitigated disaster that the Britons (that by this time appears to have culturally unified) allies themselves with the returning Anglo-Saxons and the ''Vandals'' (called from Spain) to get rid of him.
* How does this gel with Merlin being Satan's son?
* There's a good explanation for Merlin the Druid being the advisor of Arthur the Christian King: the incomplete Romanization of Britain. In the Lloegyr historical region (whose name resembles that of Logres, Arthur's proper kingdom from which he ruled the whole Britain), Britons had abandoned their old customs and adopted the Roman ones, while outside it the Britons kept their old customs, probably including the religion. After the Roman retreat, an High King coming from the Celtic Britons would find difficult at best to be obeyed by the Romanized Britons, and at the same time there was little way for someone of Roman culture to make himself obeyed by the Celtic Britons... Unless the Romanized ruler has a well-respected Celtic advisor, like Merlin. And in fact, the only kings of sub-Roman Britain with a decent measure of success were Uther Pendragon (Roman son of a Roman ''emperor'') and his son Arthur, who had Merlin as advisor. The kings before Uther had: abandoned Britain to fight a war (Constantine II, Roman emperor as Constantine III); been manipulated by their advisers before being poisoned (Constans, eldest son of Constantine II and aspiring Roman emperor); been deposed by their own son (Vortigern, who was deposed by his son Vortimer after a last fuck-up with the revolt of the Saxon mercenaries); been poisoned by their own family (Vortimer, killed by his Saxon stepmother on Vortigern's behalf); been burned alive in their fortress (Vortigern again, courtesy of Constans little brothers Aurelianus Ambrosius and Uther); been poisoned by political opponents (Aurelianus Ambrosius, assassinated by loyalists of Vortigern's other sons while Uther defeated said sons and collected Merlin as advisor). And after Merlin disappeared, we had: Arthur killed in battle by his own son, who rebelled as soon as he looked the other way to go at war in Gaul (either against Lancelot or the Eastern Roman Empire demanding tribute); Constantine III, of both Celtic and Romanized descent, ruled decently for a while, but either abdicated and became a monk or received divine punishment after killing Mordred's sons in two churches; Aurelius Conanus (Roman) was a murderer, usurper and adulter, and got killed for it; Vortiporius was a LoserSonOfLoserDad who committed unspecified depravities and corrupted his own daughter, and [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership only managed to stay king because he had kicked the Saxons out of the island]]; the depraved king Malgo, who failed to make his son King of the Britons; and Keredic, who was such an unmitigated disaster that the Britons (that by this time appears to have culturally unified) allies themselves with the returning Anglo-Saxons and the ''Vandals'' (called from Spain) to get rid of him.
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: ''The Secret History of Twin Peaks'' states that the town of Twin Peaks had viewed the Jenningses as losers and troublemakers for a long time, and that Hank was faced with plenty of mistrust already in his youth due to this. Notably, Hank's grandfather, Einer, was "amongst the leading candidates for town drunk" and his father, Emil, had already in his youth complied quite a rap sheet of various petty crimes and would eventually end up dying from passing out drunk in his bathtub and drowning.
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Mary Jane gets a fair amount of flack from Ben Reilly's family for being the daughter of Phillip Watson. The Reillys themselves, including Ben's cousin Kitty, get this when [[spoiler:Jack O'Lantern is exposed as Steven Mark Levins]] and the ''Daily Globe'' exposes the connection, exposing Kitty as a mutant to the public at large.
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* ''Fanfic/CodexEquus'': There are countless examples in the Codexverse who later become villains, whether through their own choices, the actions of those around them, or other external circumstances beyond their control.
** [[OmnicidalManiac King Xestobium]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Princess Apterus]], and [[MadScientist Dr. Toxikon]] would go on a rampage against the Dragons and Changelings... and were born entirely as a result of the eons-old grudge between the two species, with neither side wanting to let it go despite the pointless harm and destruction being done to themselves as a result of their grudge. This would prompt Thorax and Ember's choice to forgive the divine leaders of Changelingkind and Dragonkind, as they rightly believed doing anything else would only perpetuate the cycle of racism, violence, and death, and understandably were both sick of it.
** Queen Eclaira wouldn't have become the goddess she is today if her foalhood kingdom actually looked past her mediocre looks and loved her for who she is. Instead, they scorned and abused her for being 'ugly' by their standards, turning her into an utterly miserable foal who eventually gained the desire to become the FairestOfThemAll. And for their mistreatment of Eclaira, [[LaserGuidedKarma they would become the first among the many a vengeful Eclaira would devour to sate her own ravenous hunger and vanity]]. It's revealed Prince Dissonant Tune had a role in Eclaira's rise - he happened upon Eclaira's kingdom as it was sinking into corruption and, disgusted, proceeded to tempt them to see if even a single person would rise above their growing vanity. Dissonant's efforts failed, and the kingdom was later devoured by a vengeful Eclaira armed with dark sorceries taught by Overlord Vondor.
** Prince Dissonant Tune himself is another example that ultimately became a positive one. As a result of being constantly judged and mistreated by Ponyland at large for [[LoserSonOfLoserDad being one of War Rock's children]], he became a self-destructive villain with an ItsAllAboutMe mindset similar to his father's... [[BeingEvilSucks and was utterly miserable for it]]. But after surviving a drug overdose and meeting Luminiferous, Dissonant would end up learning about the story of [[Music/StevieRayVaughan Moon Ray Vaughof]], inspiring him to become a divine punisher of the wicked. It leads to him Ascending to godhood as the Alicorn god of Music, Vice, Corruption, and Revelry.
* ''Fanfic/CodexEquus'': There are countless examples in the Codexverse who later become villains, whether through their own choices, the actions of those around them, or other external circumstances beyond their control.
** [[OmnicidalManiac King Xestobium]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Princess Apterus]], and [[MadScientist Dr. Toxikon]] would go on a rampage against the Dragons and Changelings... and were born entirely as a result of the eons-old grudge between the two species, with neither side wanting to let it go despite the pointless harm and destruction being done to themselves as a result of their grudge. This would prompt Thorax and Ember's choice to forgive the divine leaders of Changelingkind and Dragonkind, as they rightly believed doing anything else would only perpetuate the cycle of racism, violence, and death, and understandably were both sick of it.
** Queen Eclaira wouldn't have become the goddess she is today if her foalhood kingdom actually looked past her mediocre looks and loved her for who she is. Instead, they scorned and abused her for being 'ugly' by their standards, turning her into an utterly miserable foal who eventually gained the desire to become the FairestOfThemAll. And for their mistreatment of Eclaira, [[LaserGuidedKarma they would become the first among the many a vengeful Eclaira would devour to sate her own ravenous hunger and vanity]]. It's revealed Prince Dissonant Tune had a role in Eclaira's rise - he happened upon Eclaira's kingdom as it was sinking into corruption and, disgusted, proceeded to tempt them to see if even a single person would rise above their growing vanity. Dissonant's efforts failed, and the kingdom was later devoured by a vengeful Eclaira armed with dark sorceries taught by Overlord Vondor.
** Prince Dissonant Tune himself is another example that ultimately became a positive one. As a result of being constantly judged and mistreated by Ponyland at large for [[LoserSonOfLoserDad being one of War Rock's children]], he became a self-destructive villain with an ItsAllAboutMe mindset similar to his father's... [[BeingEvilSucks and was utterly miserable for it]]. But after surviving a drug overdose and meeting Luminiferous, Dissonant would end up learning about the story of [[Music/StevieRayVaughan Moon Ray Vaughof]], inspiring him to become a divine punisher of the wicked. It leads to him Ascending to godhood as the Alicorn god of Music, Vice, Corruption, and Revelry.
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Only Kurou is far more pathetic and cowardly than Yuki will ever be because while Yuki is a wimp, he's willing to do anything for Yuno and his family, while his own father abandons him to die with Yuno in a building that's breaking down and kills his wife just to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Nog is scared that he'll become this trope, knowing that Rom's life hasn't turned out so great.
* [[LoserSonOfLoserDad Loser Son of Loser Mom]]: Growing up, Haejoon was ostracized and bullied for being the son of a woman who was believed to be crazy due to her extreme superstitiousness. Eunyung later [[BerserkButton hits him where it hurts]] when he implies that Haejoon must be just as crazy as his mother was.
* LoserSonOfLoserDad: Darryl tells Tracey he always pushed himself so he wouldn't turn out like his dad, Les.
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